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What is the key to enjoying life? (x)
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I swear Gaiman is a genius
Don’t get me wrong. I am suffering like the rest of us. But I think what happened now was very consistent to the characters of Aziraphale and Crowley. I don’t think they would be able to be together yet in the way we want to see them, because
Aziraphale really, really needs to realize and overcome Heaven’s abuse. he needs to understand heaven is irredeemable. He needs to actively CHOOSE Crowley as he is. Which brings me to point two, namely
Aziraphale doesn’t yet accept Crowley as he is. When Crowley said no to becoming an angel, he was shocked.
Crowley, honey, you need to tell him what heaven did to you. Maybe in season 3 he’ll finally listen?
Communication. They both suck at it. Justs look at the last scene of ep 6. At no point do they ask what the other really wants. They’re just trying to convince each other to do what they want. And that is not a healthy foundation for a relationship.
in conclusion. I am in ruins. I screamed at the tv. I ache for my abused bois. But damn, Gaiman knows his material and gave us exactly what these characters would do right now. I gotta appreciate this for the magnificent piece of tv it is.
This is why you pay your writers.
okay, but if Aziraphale tries to set up a suggestion box in heaven, I'm going to go insane
Crowley, patron saint of fucking heartbreak
no, I don't think Aziraphale was under any influence from the coffee or something when he made that choice in the last scene
given what we know about Aziraphale, his difficulty in grasping his own morality and his strong belief that people (and even heaven) can change it makes perfect sense that he would take the chance to finally make a difference
but the thing is, he really thought he would be able to do it with Crowley by his side, he wasn't expecting him to deny the offer because he still thinks heaven is inherently good and therefore it would be an obvious choice
but it isn't, not for Crowley who was kicked out of heaven for asking questions, who's seen heaven's heartless attempt to kill the most important "person" in his life, who's seen what heaven is capable of doing for what they believe to be right, not good, just right (for them)
they could've still be them but Aziraphale had to make a decision for what he thought was right and that meant loosing the chance of being with someone he loves
it wasn't out of character and I really do believe that the internal struggles faced by the angel will play a big part in the third season as he discovers more about himself, heaven, hell, good, bad, humanity and love
(Jim voice) Matchfly. Long for boxfly, short for ineffable bureaucracy
Rewatching Season 1
And hoo-boy, episode 3 is giving me some Emotions.
- Crowley being concerned about the kids dying in the flood → Aziraphale knowing he’s not gonna kill Job’s kids
- In 563, Aziraphale is staunchly against the Arrangement, as it would be lying to Heaven. Baby boy, you’ve already lied to Heaven (and you did it wonderfully)
- The Bastille. “Rescuing me makes him so happy.” Also the look on Aziraphale’s face when Crowley starts to talk. 10/10. I don’t have anything specific to connect that to, I just adore the face he makes.
- Oh boy, the big guns. 1863. Holy water. The last time we saw them interact, Crowley got dragged back to Hell and now he wants insurance. But what really got me is Crowley saying “I don’t need you” after saying he has lots of other people to fraternize with. I had to pause and write this because I started to tear up thinking about Aziraphale begging “I need you!” before the kiss.
- 1941. The church, the zombies, the magic show, the wine afterward. We basically just got an extension of this scene and I love it. We’re also back to rescuing as a love language.
- Don’t talk to me about going too fast. Just, just please don’t.
I just cant help but imagine how much disdain crowley has for that song gabriel and beezlebub bonded over, the envy he must feel in his heart must be ineffable. his effort to be with aziraphale just to be spat in the face by their love.
"everyday, it's a gettin' closer" except for aziraphales love, that is! that's quite far away now :-).
bless his heart. he needs someone but he doesn't have anyone.
I hate to say this, but the coffee theory is inherently bad and completely undermines the entire season of progression we’ve been seeing with Aziraphale.
The coffee theory completely robs his decision of agency and accountability - it gives him an easy out and thus gives the next season an easy conclusion. And I’m sorry, but Neil just Would Not write that.
He wouldn’t make it so simple and easy and, I know this sounds harsh, POORLY WRITTEN.
Aziraphale has spent thousands of years desperately clinging to the idea that Heaven is inherently good, that serving Heaven as an Angel is inherently good. He’s spent thousands of years being gaslit and undermined and tricking himself into honestly believing that Heaven isn’t broken, it can still be fixed, the system still works if HE just helped it.
That’s all Metatron did. He dug those seeds back up. He put it back in Aziraphale’s head that it’s not Heaven who’s bad, it’s not the system that’s broken, it just needs someone better at the helm! Someone like Aziraphale!
The coffee didn’t brainwash him. The coffee was just a simple act of manipulation from someone who’s been doing the same thing for thousands of years.
‘I know you. I understand you. I’m proud of you. I want you to be the leader of Heaven. Here’s a coffee.’
And Aziraphale went with it. Because it’s all he’s ever known.
If the coffee theory is true, then all of this characterization is GONE. All of the tension and pain in his decision is GONE. Any hope of Aziraphale having a satisfying character arc in season three is GONE. Because if the coffee theory is true, then Aziraphale is Stuck. His character is trapped in a place with no room to grow, to learn, to change.
If the coffee theory is true, then Aziraphale won’t even be able to apologize to Crowley for making the wrong choice.
And that, as a potential culmination of their relationship, is SO fucking sad.
Aziraphale deserves better. Because he’s a complicated, flawed, and deeply traumatized person. And now he needs to make the wrong choice. He needs to make that wrong choice, and hurt the person he loves most, because that is the ONLY way he can grow. It is the ONLY way he can break free of the bonds that Heaven’s broken system have put on him. Like Gabriel did.
Aziraphale needs to have wanted that coffee.
Because without that, then no lessons are learned. No resolution is earned.
And Aziraphale AND Crowley deserve so much better than that.
knowing what we know now… they were so wrong for this holy shit…
YOU DONT UNDERSTAND!!! CROWLEY ALWAYS SHOWED UP FOR AZIRAPHALE FOR ALL HIS WEIRD LITTLE SCHEMES AND SITUATIONS BUT WHEN CROWLEY WANTED AZI TO TRUST HIM ABOUT HEAVEN HE LEFT CROWLEY ALL ALONE
It's gonna be okay in the end
Put them in a room with a couple of bottles of wine and see what they talk about
The thing with Aziraphale is that he uses 'you' and 'we' when it's most convenient for him. He's using it in very manipulative way. Crowley, on the other hand, always says 'we'.
A few examples:
When he doesn't want to feel guilty:
Angels don't do bad things, they don't make mistakes.
When he chooses Heaven over Crowley:
Again, it has a lot of commons with guilt. It's kinda defense mechanism.
When he wants to drive a Bentley:
He knows he's charming, and Crowley will say 'yes' at the end. Because Crowley always says 'yes' to him.
And bonus Crowley:
Aziraphale going up to heaven for a long time means Crowley will no longer be able to feel his presense on Earth. Crowley was already traumatised by this:
This is going to break his soul, if Aziraphale didn’t do that already.
It may have destroyed me but I’m actually so happy that Crowley confessed because the moment Aziraphale cut him I was like nonono shut up he will never say it now. But then he did. He was so desperate that even after everything that Aziraphale said he went you know what? I’ll still say it because I think you have to hear it. So proud of him
Crowley, watching Muriel doing something stupid: Oh my god, look at this idiot. Where are their parents?
Crowley: Oh shit. Angel, we're the parents.
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