if you must refer to me, you may call me Crits. i am a antiproshipper and i am an adult. that is the only information you will get.
my aim is to spread awareness of proshippers in the tf2 fandom. more specifically. i want to bring awareness to the proshippers who have harassed others. i do this bc i want to keep the fandom safe for everyone. especially for the minors in our community.
i am against harassment. do not use my posts to harass anyone. block and report those i mention here. do not sink to their level by sending threats or anything of that kind. if i learn you have harassed any individual then you will be blocked.
with the nature of this blog, there will be mentions of disgusting things. please scroll with care. remember that you are allowed to step away if you are overwhelmed. the amount of care you possess does not lessen when you take care of yourself.
keep it civil. stay safe. and thank you for doing good, to those who have.
i am relieved that more people have become aware of pissratee / justthescout / leffee / jellee-sandwich and their actions. however. i must admit that it annoys me that it has taken this long for some users to finally cut ties.
for the record. i am not blaming any minors who were unfortunate enough to cross justthescouts path. given their harassment of minors i fully understand that attempting to cut ties might have been scary. i am sorry that you had to be afraid in what is meant to be a fun space. i hope that the rest of your time in the tf2 roleplay communify is safe. it is what every minor online deserves. safety.
as for the adults who remained by leffees side for this long?
you saw the harassment towards antiproshippers. you saw them defending AO3 and their decision to host rpf of real minors. you saw the harassment exit tumblr and enter another program. you saw their friendship with another user who had treated a minor inappropriately.
and you only cut ties now that justthescout sent a rp starter that suggests romantic interest to a minor?
the actions preceding this were not enough to cut ties? despite the fact that multiple minors were harassed and acted inappropriately towards even before this?
shame on you. and a larger shame for those who are still associating with justthescout even after the recent event. please do better in the future. i cannot change your stance on ship discourse and i will not try. but leffees treatment of minors over the past months is not discourse. it is an urgent matter.
do better for the children and teenagers in the tf2 fandom.
i have still not received an answer from that person. oh well 🤷♂️ it is only more proof that proshippers do not care about minors.
must i remind everyone again of what pissratee has done 😒 this screenshot was included in the original call out post. there is no excuse for anyone who claims that pissratee is right.
i have learned that i am on a blocklist 🙄 if bringing attention to proshippers who have harassed minors, defended smut of real children, acted inappropriately towards, and blamed minors for not wishing to be manipulated, is a bad thing, then lock me away and throw away the key 🤷♂️
why did justthescout, who is 24, send this ask to a minor?
all of these adults in the tf2 roleplay community. but they chose to send that to a teenager? at best, that is irresponsible, assuming justtthescout did not check for this minor's age.
Like straight up I don’t feel bad that a callout post exposing someone for being predatory or genuinely assaulting someone follows them around and never lets them forget about it and makes them scared that other people are going to get them. Damn, that’s crazy, how do you think the person you preyed on feels? I’m sure that event doesn’t follow them around or never lets them forget what happened or makes them scared that other people are going to hurt them in the same way!
“Oh so you think people who make callouts for petty drama-“ if someone writes a callout on you for a minor personal misunderstanding or like for being a bad friend the worst that happens is their other friends don’t like you and no one above the age of 17 takes it that seriously. Come on now
first three groups of screenshots were all found in the anti proship tags.
last one highlighted for emphasis. why do proshippers act like they are oppressed 😒 and the anti is right. you cant break your own boundaries especially after your boundaries were broken by someone else first. but i suppose if you are used to breaking boundaries without a care in the world then it all means nothing to you.
keeps equating being proship with being smarter 😒 you wish. i get the feeling that pissratee was mad bcuz this anti is older than her. proshippers usually hate when antis are older than them bc it proves it is not the "mature" side.
the anti here is a minor. why harass a kid, pissratee? as an adult you should have blocked them first. it is the responsible thing to do. i am an adult too and if a minor did not want me to interact for any reason i would block to respect their choice. having beef against a kid is weird.
also defended AO3 hosting rpf of real kids. i also added proof of AO3 allowing it bcuz i know some people won't believe me. pissratee's reblog is still there, see for yourself. makes the harassing kids thing seem more creepy. why defend smut involving real kids?
rpf smut is harassment regardless of what AO3 claims. just bc something is technically not illegal does not make it ok! defending written nsfw of real kids makes you look like a creep.
other accounts are
jellee-sandwich
leffee
justthescout
avoid engaging with this user
do not harass them or send threats or anything
block their accounts and move on
and pissratee i dont wish death or anything like that on you. if anyone sends threats i do not claim those people and they should be ashamed of themselves for doing that. i am serious.
i just want you to stop harassing people and to understand why what you are doing is harmful. and since you did not want to listen to any of us before, you left no choice but for me to say something.
even if tf2 is violent i do not want this fandom to be unsafe for kids and for victims of grooming. and you harassing people who may be survivors because they spoke up about the abuse proshippers perform and normalize? it shows a lot about you and none of it is positive.
i hope you get better but as it stands nobody has to be around you if they do not want to. it should be a wake up call that people would rather not talk to you face to face.
you ignored a valid response from someone out of spite. read the submission. they are right. you are just too stubborn to admit you might have been wrong. the anon practiced media literacy, i suggest you try the same.
i saw more. i will hide it under a cut this time because the original post is long enough already, and because this is even more disgusting.to give context, pissratee was interacting with a victim who was affected by fictional pedophilic material so badly that they experience unwanted arousal. this individual is in therapy for it and simply does not want what happened to them to occur to anyone else.
what angered me is this response:
"whether those pedophiles saw proship stuff or not they would still be pedophiles"
the op was DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY FICTIONAL MATERIAL. they likely would not suffer from pedophilic thoughts if not for it. AND PISSRATEE DISMISSED THEM.
i will include the rest of the conversation. notice how pissratee doesn't refute the accusation of being a pedophile. combined with defending AO3 hosting rpf of real children as seen in my original post, this is even more alarming.
as of last month. leffee. also known as pissratee, justthescout, and jellee-sandwich. is still breaking the dnis of antiproshippers. and harassing people. i have put a read more because it is long. but i urge all to read and share this. mainly if you are in the tf2 fandom. and the tf2 roleplay community.
first. a minor with proshippers in their dni made a post pertaining to their dni. despite being in the dni in two ways. one for being proship and the other related to the post. leffee interacted anyway 🙄 talking about your boundaries is not an invitation to be bothered.
while i could not get the comments to appear, i was able to figure out it was leffee. when i unblocked them for a brief moment, the comment chain disappeared. the minor had also seemingly blocked leffee given the disappearence of the chain. it thus was clear that it was leffee. i did not want to ask the minor to unblock leffee only to get a photo of their comments. i do not wish to overstep. confirming that the comments are from leffee by unblocking and seeing the chain disappear is enough for me.
leffee has also interacted with another minor. this minor also has proshippers in their dni. and again. leffee is proship. as seen by their bio on that page.
there is also the post i reblogged from another user. where leffee was revealed to attempt to harass this person on steam. and also shown to be a nuisance to others on steam. i checked and i saw that leffee went on another profile and bothered them. give it up, leffee 🙄 get a hobby that does not involve the annoyance or harassment of other people.
for anyone who was unaware until now. i will include other screenshots i have shared before. so you may understand who we are dealing with. and. under them. i will paste the links to the posts i made of them.
i am unsurprised by both displays. the harassment was expected. but while i did not expect the comments. i cannot say they shock me. it lines up with their other behavior.
please do not do this. i do not like pissratee and i am still angry about their actions. but it is horrible to tell someone to take their own life.
if this was pissratees own doing, that is also bad. but i cannot prove it is or is not, so i will not speculate. i only see that pissratee received such a message and i wanted to note it. it would disgust me regardless of who sent it.
please block pissratee and do not harass them any further.
i will not allow reblogs this time. this post only will serve as a warning and as a notice. pissratee is active on their other accounts so i am not worried about that regard.
fucknugg3t is friends with pissratee, who i spoke about in length here.
i was approached by an anonymous source who provided me with evidence that fucknugg3t had spoken to them inappropriately up until they blocked him for good. while this person, who is a minor, has since purged most of their interactions with fucknugg3t, an adult, they were able to find proof of their interactions and gave them to me.
first, i will copy down what the minor told me in direct messages.
I have a few mutuals to prove that I did make a post about him but the main concerns are
1. After becoming mutuals he would send me paragraphs upon paragraphs on certain posts where I'd 'do something wrong' trying to correct my behaviour - and usually it would relate to my anti shipping posts, 'you can't say things that people like weird or disturbing'
2. I felt really guilty and believed what he was saying talking to him so I had a lot of moments where I blocked and unblocked him saying sorry. He was under the impression that I 'used to be an antishipper'
He also a lot of times tried to say things like "its okay to explore dark themes in media' and things like 'its just kink and there are things like safe words but you don't need to worry about that because you're still young, just filter the tags'
3. He'd compare himself a lot to Sonic then he told me I reminded him of Amy Rose.
4. Despite knowing I was 'indulging myself' with my selfship with Scout he would continue to compare himself to Scout as a "long running joke'.
He got really really mad at me when he was going on about 'i can't think of anything unique l'm too much like Scout for my self insert so he's gonna have the same class!' he was really insistent that it wasn't a scout sona and when I told him it was, he got really really mad
here is the vent post written by the minor.
while i do believe that friends can and should correct each other when they say or do something wrong, fucknugg3t also tried to correct the minor when they pushed back about proshipping. fucknugg3t, as one could have guessed given their friendship with pissratee, is a proshipper.
"you run into people who can justify harassment" hmmmm. are you mad at your friend pissratee too? or is your anger only reserved towards antis? 🤔
to be clear, harassment is wrong no matter what your stance is. but calling someone out on their very recent wrongdoings, of which you have proof, with the intent of keeping others safe is not harassment. and again. please do not send threats to anyone involved. that is reprehensible. so are fucknugg3t's doings, which i will continue to share.
the minor had these emails from tumblr proving that fucknugg3t had interacted with them. the first one shown is this. the words highlighted in orange is fucknugg3t.
"every time i pull you aside to fill you in on something, this is what you need to imagine. i just scoop you up and take you away" scooping up a teenager and taking them away? to tell them to stop complaining about proshippers sexualizing pedophilia and such?
there was also this ask the teenager had sent to fucknugg3t. to which he wrote out a very long response. long responses were common from him, as noted by the minor. normally i would say it is nice for someone to be so enthusiastic but given fucknugg3t's other behavior, it comes off as creepy.
the way he makes it clear he relates to scout so much, knowing the minor selfships with scout...i hope i do not need to explain why that is a red flag. relating to characters is a fine thing, but it is creepy to insist you are just like the character your minor friend is actively crushing on.
as also stated above, fucknugg3t compared himself to sonic the hedgehog and told them that they reminded him of amy rose. comparing a teenager to a character who has a crush on the character he, an adult, relates to? again. creepy.
i also have proof that fucknugg3t is friends with pissratee, plus another associate of theirs, as evident by this person's defense.
"the english tf2 fandom is very tender" well yes. i would sure hope we are sensitive to pedophilia.
"those people are convinced proshippers are pedophiles" well, at least some of them are, pissratee. you are friends with another proshipper who, as seen above, acted inappropriately towards a teenager. lets not forget you defended rpf based on real children. birds of a feather flock together.
this used to be in fucknugg3t's pinned post. expressing discomfort towards certain matters makes you a dick? i find it suspicious that he is against people speaking out about their discomfort. people should be able to speak about what makes them uncomfortable. this is not very anti-censorship logic.
after the minor voiced discomfort, fucknugg3t would send long messages attempting to convince the minor to change their view. i was provided a collection of direct quotes from fucknugg3t. i will bold for emphasis and respond to quotes as i have indicated by asterisks.
"the dark stuff you were talking about in the dni is what a lot of kink is about* its playing pretend about dark themes just like those ones these people can and do separate ficiton from realitiy** and they dont do these things in real life there is a big difference between a kinkster and a pedo*** this is imporrant to know in kink it is playing pretend theres opt in and opt out and safe words and all that everyone is an adult and theyre playing out scenes with each other so sometimes people do the same thing with characters and make art about these topics (they *should* be properly tagged if they are then block the tags if not block the person) i would recommend doing that anyway because youre a minor and kink is about sex but calling kink work weird or disturbing is an insult****"
it is true that it is best for minors to block tags and people who make them uncomfortable as well as keep away from kink discussions. however. there are still lapses in fucknugg3t's logic.
*why is it a problem if the minor had kink related things in their dni?
**again with proshippers claiming or implying antis can't tell fiction and reality apart.
***while it is true not all people who practice in kink are pedos, it is still strange to rant about kink to a minor who expressed being uncomfortable with proshipping.
****people expressing discomfort towards pedophilia and incest is not an insult, especially if this expression was made in private. nor is it anti kink, because kink requires consent and safety, and pedophilia and incest, and other dark topics such as rape, have neither.
during another conversation, the minor talked about removing a specific ship from their dni, saying they did not want to see disturbing or weird content. valid, in my view. however. fucknugg3t said this.
i think i owuldnt call it werid or disturning* like i get it might make you uncomfrotable because it has darker themes and it makes sense to say "hey i dont want this on my dash if youre into this like thats not my thing dont interact" but i guess thats what blocking tags os for but insulting it* isnt i mean man people dnt usually listen to dnis anyway** best thing to do is block tags you dont like
*i can confirm that the ship the minor was referring to often gets disturbing fanart and such created. also. privately expressing that it is weird and disturbing is not insulting it. insulting it would mean actively putting it down. acknowledging something as disturbing in private, under the assumption you are not trashing to a fan, is not insulting.
**you are friends with someone who constantly breaks dnis on purpose, so i cannot expect you to be sympathetic to those who have dnis. dnis are good to have. i avoid breaking them if possible. i block people whos dnis i appear in out of respect for them. it is not hard to respect people.
the minor made this post after a conversation. they were trying to compromise with fucknugg3t. which was met with dismissal.
the minor made it clear to me that they were afraid of upsetting fucknugg3t. their attempts to compromise with him out of fear was a fawn response. they had no intention of changing their stance on proshipping or any related matters.
fucknugg3t also reblogged these two posts after speaking to the minor about kink and dnis. note how neither one is tagged with anything to prevent minors from seeing it. how do you expect minors to block nsfw posts that you do not make the effort to tag?
i censored the usernames of both ops because they are not involved directly. i do not agree with what either one said. people can define their dnis however they wish. why make fun of boundaries? why call people the purity police for not wanting certain people or things around them?
dismissing peoples discomfort for certain things is groomer behavior.
avoid fucknugg3t
block him and pissratee, and pissratee's other accounts
do not harass either of them or any of their associates
fucknugg3t made a response. plus some clarification from the minor on one piece of evidence.
the minor never made any remarks against queerness. the problem is not and has never been the fact that fucknugg3t is a gay man. the problem is him attempting to tell a minor what they should not have in their dni. and making it about kink when the minor was simply uncomfortable with certain ships. voicing discomfort is not a bad thing. for someone who claims to be anti censorship, telling someone they should not voice discomfort is hypocritical.
this may come as a shock. but. i do believe that children and teenagers should know about consent. i do believe in sex education. giving people the language and information they need to make informed decisions is vital to keeping people safe. that includes minors. minors do need to be safe online and offline. they do need to learn boundaries. i do not disagree with that notion and i never have.
however. you made a minor feel doubt about their boundaries. you made a minor question themself for wanting to keep themself safe. for not wanting to be triggered by disturbing imagery. that is horrible. this minor had been blocking people they did not like. they had been blocking tags. in making a dni and including ships they did not like, they were only taking another measure to keep themself safe. and you made them feel terrible for it.
they were scared of you. they were afraid of you. an adult who was mad at them for only speaking up about their boundaries.
chasing people offline is a bad thing. i do not wish that on you. but if you are acting inappropriately to minors. and are interacting with minors while having a history of being nasty to them. and without tagging your nsfw posts so minors do not see them. then i believe that warrants a response. that response being someone pointing out your behavior so that others can be aware. especially minors.
i do hope that no one has sent you threats. i find that disgusting and if anyone has, i do not wish to associate with them.
again. the minor never said that you being aroallo was a problem. it is your aforementioned behavior that is problematic.
while it is true that some women have ruined the lives of men by calling them predators. for instance, white women claiming black men and men of color are dangerous. this is not the case here. you were being inappropriate to a minor. there is evidence of it. as seen above.
"accused of being proship" first. you posted this and tagged it as proship. if you truly do not identify as such i do apologize for the assumption. but surely you can see how i was led to believe that?
second. again. you claim being anti harassment is an inherent part of proshipping but you are friends with someone who has harassed multiple people.
you can be anti censorship and still think that romanticized incest, pedophilia and rape are gross and bad. sure. they can exist. it does not mean we can not say it's bad. freedom of expression goes both ways.
you claim proshippers are anti fascist but considering how fascists have banned books like Charlottes Web, and left ao3 and its rpf pedo stories alone, i doubt that. and another reminder that your friend also defended rpf pedo works on ao3.
purity culture is not believing that fetishized rape is gross. if anything. purity culture defends rape and blames victims for "enticing" their rapists. when no. they did not deserve it. they never have.
thought crimes do not exist. but. typing out pedophilic fantasies or drawing incest and then posting them are not thoughts. they are far from thoughts. actions have been taken. words were spoken. your hands created something. and you put it into the world for anyone to see.
it is not anti kink or homophobic to say you don't want to see such content.
i am done attempting to refute this post. i should note. you did not mention how you compared yourself to sonic the hedgehog and the minor reminding you of amy rose, knowing that amy rose is in love with sonic. or how you insisted you are just like scout, knowing the minor selfships with him.
there is no problem with relating to characters. but i hope you realize that those comparisons come off bad.
one more thing.
the minor wanted me to add. the context to this interaction from fucknugg3t was that he was giving them trouble about being anxious by seeing upsetting fictional works.
here is the minor's words. bolded words are for emphasis.
Honestly its even crazier hes complaining about my fear of seeing crap because hes seen the vent posts ive made about my paranoia and things ive found disturbing manifesting in my dreams
Like he knows that I need to go the extra mile for my comfort because my brain gets scared of the most irrational shit
He knows that ive blocked and unblocked him multiple times because I was afraid of him
The reason why I tend to be a bit sensitive about (character) is because the bad dream thing we both share and I hate seeing him abused because of that
He (fucknugg3t) even would be like "um that seems severe you should get that checked clinically"
He posted the "gently holding the rabbit" thing because he knew he was freaking me out with his shit
Like obviously if im constantly being sent paragraphs by an adult who I feel is mad at me im gonna freak out?? And he already knows at times im on the more anxious side
i thought to include more evidence that fucknugg3t was friendly to the minor.
the left screenshot included a piece of fanart from someone unrelated to this. it was redacted by me.
if it were not for what was shown previously, these interactions would have been nice. interactions like these are not inherently bad. i want to make that clear. before we are accused of claiming that lgbtqia adults cannot interact with minors. 😑 it is unhelpful that we were called homophobic for calling out the. at best. suspicious behavior from an adult to a teenager. of which we have proof. as shown above.
i wanted to share these bc it shows that there was a closeness once between them. it is not fair for fucknugg3t to deflect by claiming the minor is a homophobe. not to say that people who do not speak up are invalid. of course not. but as someone who preaches blocking and muting. i feel fucknugg3t could have blocked the minor if they were so homophobic. but he did not.
an aside. but fucknugg3t's friend pissratee is also guilty of interacting with people who do not wish to interact with them. all so they can try to prove a point. or convince others they are wrong for being antis. rather than block and move on. proving once more that proshippers do not follow what they preach 🙄
and. as the adult between them. if he knew the minor was scared of him. why not block her to give her ease? would that not have been the better route? the responsible route?
it appears disingenuous. to make a teenager question their own boundaries, claim it is anti kink and homophobic when the teenager explained those boundaries, and then claim the minor is homophobic for wanting his wrongdoings called out.
and i must ask again. why be upset about a minor not wanting to engage with things they do not want?
a responsible adult would have respected the minors boundaries. and would not have attempted to convince them that they were wrong for feeling disgusted by triggering fanart.
even if what i am about to share is from 2019. i still feel it is important to share. it is under the read more because it is a long screenshot.
the poster of this post is deactivated and the link shown at the bottom is broken. i was unfortunately not able to track down the post in the link elsewhere. a great shame. i value information such as this when i document the actions of proshippers. it is vital.
i will share the broken link anyway. in the hope that someone could find it.
avoid this individual and any associates. even if this occured in 2019. it is irresponsible to interact with minors via a nsfw account. illegal as well, if that is what it takes for proshippers and other predators to take it seriously 😐
that individual ships spy and scout, for anyone who wonders why she is a proshipper. she is also a gore artist but i do not wish to look more into that. she ships incest. and she and her friends were inappropriate to minors while they were adults. even if it was in 2019. that is enough to earn a mention here.
i will say. they are not entirely wrong that adults who claim to be safe for minors could be unsafe in reality. but. that does not make proshippers who draw incest and gore the safer option 😑 the proshipper community does not provide a safe environment for minors.
They are a pro-paraphile, necrophile, zoophile, pedophile, and into incest and rape, mocks rape and sexual assault and survivors of it, purposely violates dnis, and lies about their stances on things in order to ignore dnis, and started a harassment campaign against an artist because the artist didn't like someone shoving their incest/and pedophilia shit onto their p1dadau that was innocent. Also in a discord of theirs they make jokes about rape, sexualize child characters, and are friends with zoophiles and pedophiles
One mutual is @/gravegal who has said nasty shit in not13opossums discord server where they make jokes about and discuss wanting to violate kids and animals. [PROOF 1] [PROOF 2] [PROOF 3].
THEY HAVE ALSO ALLEGEDLY CAUSED HARM TO A MINOR VIA FACILITATING GROOMING AND ENCOURAGING SH ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS
ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE OF THEM BEING A NECRO/ZOO/PEDO/AND INTO RAPE + ALTS
@/hazy-halos. @/mr-aftons-rotting-pussy are also mutuals who had done similar things to them. Block them as well.
Proof in various sections under cut. Screenshots gathered by me and @nagginghusband
NECROPHILE/PRO-PARA/INCEST + SIDE BLOGS AND MUTUALS
Used to have the necro flag in their pfp and open in their pinned post and many other posts about being a necro and pro paraphile along with on their strawpage. Easy info to find
compares thinking people shouldn't be attracted to thins that can't consent is the same as conversion therapy.
Says Dude is "canon" pedo/zoo/necro, their source? No longer canon and disowned media made by a third party. Rws has stated against this idea that dudes a predator.
Heres also their sideblogs to block
MAKING LIGHT OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND RAPE.
Last post is really fucking revolting, "I'm gonna make it worse" you sound like a rapist when you say that you're gonna make someone's sexual trauma worse
LYING ABOUT BEING NOT PROSHIP AND VIOLATING DNIS
Compared to the other shit this isn't as serious but this is here to show a pattern of behavior of them lying and being incapable of even following the most simple of requests when it comes to epiples boundaries.
[EXTRA PROOF HERE DUE TO IMAGE LIMIT]
really? How strange
Whines when they get blocked by people for the things they post on their public account and are rightfully facing social consequences for and feel entilted to others people's blogs and spaces
HARASSMENT
[PROOF HERE AND HERE AS TUMBLR ONLY ALLOWS SO MANY IMAGES PER POST]
i have received notice from a colleague that fucknugg3t is blaming the minor he acted inappropriately towards. this colleague was following a confession blog and recognized the situation described in a number of submissions. this colleague messaged me with the evidence.
i will not post every piece bc it is a lot. and i have debunked fucknugg3t's claims and explained why his words are false in previous posts. i will only display two excerpts and go over them briefly.
it is disgustingly inappropriate to eyeroll at the idea of a minor claiming they were groomed. a reminder. grooming is not always done with the goal of exploitation. and it is also not always done with intention either. perhaps you did not intend to groom the minor but your actions still caused a teenager distress. and caused them to question their own boundaries. which is a horrible thing to do. and not wise if your goal really was safety for the minor.
the minor never bullied anybody over their kinks. or their sexuality. and they did not harass anybody over their erotica. or their gay ships. or their headcanons. now. this minor admited to me that they had made some mistakes about the canon of a specific character. but they have rectified it and have learned from it. it is not as you describe.
you dismissed a victim, fucknugg3t. stop framing this minor as the culprit.
you being a gay aroallo man has naught to do with any of it. again. while it is true that people within the lgbtqia community are often accused of grooming, there are cases where it does happen for real. dismissing this fact of reality means you are. unintentional or not. defending real predatory behavior by making claims that it is all homophobia at work.
i have one more screenshot from fucknugg3t to share, which i chose to not add in the post before this one because i believed it deserved its own post.
i hope this is the last time i have to speak on this. however. before i do. i would like to make something clear. this is long so it is going under a cut.
i make mentions of kink and other matters such as pedophilia, incest and rape. while i do not say anything explicit. i ask that you read with care.
i have said this in a previous post and i would like to elaborate. i do not believe that kink and people who practice it are inherently evil. or that they are all groomers or predators. i also do not believe that lgbtqia people are inherently evil. or all groomers and predators. of course not.
these communities are full of individuals. and it is only specific individuals who are predatory. and take advantage of others.
the same could be said for the proshipper community and even the antiproshipper community. there do exist antiproshippers who use their label to their advantage and prey on vulnerable people. minors included. and i do not support these antiproshippers because those ones are predators.
and i do not like predators. in fact. i hate them.
the difference between an proshipper who is a predator and an antiproshipper who is a predator is what their group stands for. generally speaking.
the definition of proshipping varies from person to person. but generally you will find most of them believe it is ok to ship anything and everything and no one is allowed to criticize it because it is all just fiction. while that sounds ok to most, what proshippers often leave out is that they tend to ship. or defend. minor x adult ships. incest ships. ships between a rapist and their victim.
in other words. allowing people to romanticize matters such as pedophilia, incest, and rape.
they will claim that it is not something they would want in real life. and i believe most of them are not lying when they say that. but a community that allows sexualized pedophilia, incest and rape cannot be surprised when people who are predatory join their community. or if someone within their community is groomed into believing those things are ok or nothing to complain about. because being surrounded by such things. even fictional. can desensitize a person and affect them in real life.
antiproshippers generally stand against what proshippers stand for. so standing against such things means it is more of a shock when a self proclaimed anti is a predator. those predators deserve the same condemnation as a proshipper who is predatory. no one is above the other.
from what i have seen. antiproshippers also tend to be more critical of the fiction they consume. because being critical means catching biases and pointing out when something is glorifying something it should not. or making jokes or remarks that are racist or sexist or lgbtqia-phobic.
it does not mean you cannot like any given media for having problematic qualities. but some media is worse than others in certain regards. and some fan made media is very bad in those regards.
critical thought should not be foregone when it comes to kink either. no one can or should try to stop what consenting adults do in private. but. considering that raceplay and other such things exist. we must learn to examine why one is attracted to such ideas. the same is true for getting off to pedophilia, incest, and rape. or things that fall under those categories. they are seen as bad for a reason. and you cannot get upset when someone. especially a survivor of such abuse. is mad at you for openly liking such things. especially if you leave these things unfiltered.
and defending kink uncritically and assuming every person who criticizes bad things is homophobic, means you may accidentally regurgitate the words of a well-known pedophile who ran a pro-contact pedophilia forum 😟
my point is. being uncritical of these matters. whether in kink settings or proship settings. is a great danger to people. you are more likely to associate or agree with someone like the user in the post, someone who has done real world harm, while in these spaces.
i do not know if fucknugg3t is aware of him or what he did. i am assuming he is not aware. if that is true then it would be in his best interest to delete the reblog and learn what that individual did. it should be taken as a lesson to be more critical and not assume that every person you agree with is good and every person against your stance is bad and out to get you.
if he is aware, then that makes his behavior even more dangerous. speaking to a minor about kink while being aware of what that person encouraged on his website? 😨
and one last thing. i had responded to fucknugg3t recently. and one point i forgot to make was this.
grooming someone is not always so you can get them to send you pictures of them. or to otherwise exploit them sexually.
it is also possible to groom others into being desensitized by certain alarming matters. such as pedophilia incest or rape. and making fun of someone. a minor, no less. for simply exercising boundaries and making them feel uncertain about their boundaries in wanting to avoid seeing distressing things?
that is also a form of grooming. maybe it is true you did not intend to exploit the minor, fucknugg3t. but it was still wrong of you to do. and i was not going to allow it to slide.
why was it ok for you to belittle a minor and their boundaries? and why is it bad for me to speak out in their defense?
you might not see this but if you do. i want you to think about that.
i want you to do much thinking. and come to terms with the fact that you did do something wrong.
