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another gem from pinterest that makes me physically unwell
Invincible Iron man #1
Tony Stark referring to his workshop as his âchurchâ is so infinitely important to me.Â
That scene in iron man where Obadiah stane is buttoning up Tonyâs shirt (after he shows him the arc reactor) gives me the creep
Thereâs a lot about obadiah and Tony that are fucking classic tells of a toxic relationship women so often find themselves in. Itâs creepy because its real. Same with the scene of obadiah taking the reactor out of a helpless, paralyzed Tonys chest. Itâs rape without the sex. Itâs the nightmare so many of us have lived or live in fear of. Iâm honestly so glad they made Tony to be the âdamsel in distressâ if only for the fact so many more people can now realize these things.
âItâs rape without the sexâ That scene always gave me the absolute creeps and this post really finally helped me put my finger on why that was. Especially as he had essentially been roofied.
Yeeeeeup. everything about it has always made me see direct parallels to sexual assault. i hate it and it makes me sick to my stomach but itâs such an important and masterfully done piece of cinema.
 tony has been incapacitated. his consent cannot be given and yet he is aware of whats happening. obadiah is gloating over him - and it doesnât help matters that heâs almost straddling tony, only furthering his power play. and not only is he gloating, but heâs blaming tony for this. itâs tonyâs fault heâs in this situation. furthermore, obadiah was someone he trusted like family, and about the last person he would expect this from. and for the cherry on top, the camera is off center and tilted, almost putting us in tonyâs perspective, making everything feel just so many kinds of uncomfortable as heâs being assaulted.
Thank you.
THANK YOU.
Iâm honestly glad I was not the only one skeeved out by this because honestly - Iâve been wanting to say it for years, but I was always terrified that someone would say I was just reading into it too much.
I meanâŠletâs be frank (especially if we are talking about parallels to rape/sexual assault):
Tony was a playboy - he was not shy about his drinking, sexual history, or lifestyle. He had garnered a reputation for it. While fun loving and a good time kind of guy, he makes sure that consent is present during any liaison.
Hereâs Obediah - this huge wall of a guy, acting like a friend and mentor. It gives him an in to be close, touchy-feely under the guise of a friend. Tony trusts him, hence why the closeness doesnât bother him. Thatâs just how Obie is! Right? RightâŠ.
Tony has a traumatic encounter that changes his entire lifeâŠ.and no one takes him seriously. Pepper, Rhodey, Obediah - they are all guilty of trying to tell him that he just needs to sit back and get over it/get his mind straight/threaten to walk out on him because they think heâs crazy.
HuhâŠ.what does that sound like? Sounds like dismissal - a regrettably loathsome reaction many have towards victims of trauma and while not malicious (except for established douchebag Obediah), it can make bad situations worse and gives Obediah the perfect in for Tonyâs downfall (the injunction, claiming itâs for his own good, all that jazzâŠexerting a shit ton of power over Tony and simultaneously trying to strip Tony of what power he has left)
To make matters worse - the scene itself where Obediah assaults Tony: Tony is alone. He is vulnerable. Obediah overpowered him, incapacitated him, but left him fully aware of what was going on. He penetrated him without consent (the mechanism literally punched in and pulled his âheartâ out), gas lit him to hell and back by using not only his own past but his fatherâs past to justify his treatment bring âdeservedââŠ..and then leaving him broken and for dead.
The reason a lot of people didnât view it that way: we donât normally see a man - especially an outgoing superhero type - being stripped of his agency in a brutally visceral manner. Its s shocking scene to begin withâŠ.but it gradually gets worse when you put it through the lens of a rape victim.
If that isnât a giant parallel for sexual assault, I donât know what is.
Oh and the fact obadiah has basically been grooming tony since he was a teen, robbing him of bodily autonomy, pressuring him and forcing him into situations he doesnât particularly want to be in, and always asserting his dominance with grabbing/holding/touching, or in some cases like OP pointed out, even dressing him. Obie is a predator in every sense of the word, and way too similar to how a rapist behaves for it to be a coincidence.
I hate, hate, hate this scene. It makes me so uncomfortable that I can barely watch it. IM1 has some of the most vicious, brutal scenes in the MCU and glosses over much less than the following ones.
Itâs a brilliant movie but a painful one as soon as you look beyond the shiny armor.
okay i dont normally reblog stuff like this, but iâve mentioned in tags tons of times that their entire dynamic creeped me out. Iâd never talked about it this in depth before but yeah, he definitely used touch as manipulation, and I believe he touched tony more than any other character this entire movieÂ
(yes i spent way too much time making that.)
When Tony gets back from Afghanistan, gets out of the car with the burgers, Obadiah has at least one of his hands on him the entire way into the building. As someone else mentions â he buttons up tonyâs shirt which - yeah tony has a busted arm, but he unbuttoned it relatively easily â so the creep factor still applies. and then youâve got the other examples too. Also the fact that theyâre business partners//mentor/mentee//father/son dynamic âŠ. and obadiah deadass calls tony shirtless. like i dont know much about grown men but im pretty sure thats not that common even among friends.Â
and anyway if we look at the other characters who touch tony in this movie, itâs rhodey and pepper and christine. Tony in this movie doesnât initiate touch nearly as much â he usually reacts to it (e.g. even though heâs the âplayboyâ christine is the one who takes the lead in sex. rhodey is the one who initiates almost all of their contact, etc). after this movie that changes. You can definitely see him start to initiate almost all touch, except with pepper and rhodey (e.g. him poking bruce, him slapping steves hand off him, but putting one on steve). this is definitely a way of asserting contol over a situation â idk if the writers did it purposefullyâŠprobably not, but it is interesting. one could argue, i suppose that afghanistan/torture is the cause, butâŠ.i think him being scarred by obadiah is more likely. Â
also, Obadiah used tonyâs name. A Lot. We donât really think about it bc with the Avengers itâs always last name, last name, last name. (the ones who call him tony are easy to notice â fury, pepper, rhodey, sometimes steve). But Obadiah uses Tonyâs name a lot more than seemingly necessary. And we all know calling people by their first names is a way of acknowledging them as a person, but also it also indicates familiarity/fondness aka a bond. Someone compiled a video of it.Â
Iâd also like to mention how Tony hardly ever touches people later on, even Peter when he obviously treats the kid like his own.
Staneâs influence effected him years later, possibly even to the point of being afraid of becoming like him. As a lot of abuse and assault victims do, sexual or otherwise.
This is also demonstrated in IM2 with his reaction to Justin Hammer. I mentioned in another post that when Tony is at the race in Monico. Justin Hammer gets into his personal space intimating a relationship that is not present.Â
Iâm actually quite upset with Pepper in this scene because Tony sees Justin approach and whispers to Pepper âDonât leave meâ and she still walks away.Â
At one point Justine is literally leaning on Tony and Tony mutters âgod thatâs awfulâ as he tries to pull away. Putting his sunglasses on so that no one can see his eyes.
It is only a few minutes later that we see Tony testing his blood for toxicity levels and decides to take over driving his own car in the race. This could just be seen as an attempt to just be reckless, but it is also a desperate need to assert control over something when he just escaped a moment where he was once again stripped of his choices and support by the people around him.Â
It might not seem that severe but for someone that has already dealt with trauma on the levels that Tony has, it could be triggering.
The scenes with him always make me so uncomfortable. Now I finally know why!
I am so glad Iâm not the only one that noticed all this. Tonyâs specific brand of female-coded trauma is a huge part of why I identify with him so strongly. And why Iâm so. FUCKING. Pissed. That MCU killed him instead of letting him recover and move on.
Heavy but incredibly important
Wait, we need to rewind. Back to Afghanistan.
Cause Iâm always shocked when Obadiah calls Tony in Afghanistan, and heâs
half naked
in bed
calling Tony mâboy!
Iâm always appalled. This always struck me as flat-out harassment, exactly the insidious kind you donât know how to report, cause men can be topless, right? and it was a business call? and nothing lewd was said, so I guess itâs not really harassment?
And Tony reacts exactly the way women do, which is playing it off like a joke even though you know it isnât. âWhy arenât you wearing those pajamas I got you, lol?â Itâs funny now, right? He knows Iâm uncomfortable and that I sort-of called him out for being shirtless on a business call? Thatâs surely enough, right?
Obadiah exists in that nefarious little sludge-hole of deniability of harassment, and thatâs what makes him such a disgustingâand incredibly significantâcharacter.
Dude bros, pay attention. Obiâs there as a mirror for you.
Iâve reblogged posts on this topic before, not sure if I have this one thoughâit includes some specific points I donât recall from the others, such as that last one about Stane in bed.
tony and bruce being absolute cuties in aou
robert downey jr and mark ruffalo in avengers: age of ultron (2015)
bonus:
"Dare I say I miss him? I do. I miss him. I still see him in my dreams. They are nightmares mostly, but nightmares tinged with love. Such is the strangeness of the human heart."
â Yann Martell, Life of Pi
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when the root of the tragedy was love.
not to be talking about avengers (2012) in the current year (2025) but tony stark walking into a room full of spies and government agents, planting a hacking device on one of their computers, starting up a little hacking program on a giant screen in full view of everyone present, and then exiting WITH NO ONE NOTICING simply because he is THAT good at misdirection and running his mouth. what the fuck. icon legend media trained at the Maria Stark Public Appearances Bootcamp at age 4 guy who crowd worked his way out of a senate hearing they do not make them like this anymore
Literally why I will always love him
tony stark + speechless suffering [requested by @knightinironarmor]
â Â iron man 2
She-hulk #1 (2004)
stephen strange: đÂ
 tony stark: đ
from iron man/captain america: casualties of war (2006). written by christos gage, penciled by jeremy haun, inked by mark morales, and colored by morry hollowell.
thinking about age of ultron party scene.... always thinking about age of ultron party scene...
AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON (2015) // AVENGERS: ENDGAME (2019)
it's so funny how the mcu has so closely replicated the comics fan experience of like, "don't worry about like the plots. the things happening are like 90% really stupid, you just have to accept that. the meat is in the character writing. which is unfortunately also bad."
how many times can the same thing break your heart?
as long as you love it.