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So like we have a few cool alternate costumes in the new Smash Bros for some characters but I would willingly trade Samusâs and Shulkâs âspecialâ alternates for an actual Daisy alternate for Peach and a Ms. Pacman alternate for Pacman.
NO Daisy fans don't want her to be an alternate model for Peach or have Peach's move-set. Don't.
The Ten Commandments of Daisy, Yo
1. Thou shalt know Daisy is ginger, that her hair is officially referred to as orange, and that to color your Daisy fan-art with brown hair is not cool, yo.
2. Thou shalt know Daisy's jewels are green. Viridian, jade, and emerald are also acceptable color-words. To color your Daisy fan-art with blue or cyan jewels is not cool, yo.
3. Thou shalt respect Daisy's current and longest lasting design of more than a decade, and not lament on her original appearances in a way that casts a negative view on Daisy now, yo.
4. Thou shalt know Sarasaland, Daisy's kingdom, comprises of four kingdoms: Birabuto, Â Muda, Easton, and Chai. To misrepresent Sarasaland as being primarily or merely a desert-kingdom is not cool, yo.
5. Thou shalt know the physical differences between Daisy and Peach, that Daisy has never been a Peach recolor, and that Daisy is as physically different from Peach as Rosalina's dress is from Peach's, and also that Rosalina is only as physically different from Peach as Daisy's dress is from Peach's; a.k.a vice-versa, yo.
6. Thou shalt have a vast knowledge of Daisy's unique special abilities, paying close attention to the flowers of power, as well as Daisy's unique playing styles, yo.
7. Thou shalt pray to the voice mother, Deanna Mustard, and thank Nintendo for not just cheaply using Peach's voice-actor for her, and respect the awesome slang Deanna uses to bring life to Daisy and recall the especially sweet performances she did in the Mario Strikers series. To use the "Hi, I'm Daisy!" meme is not cool, yo.
8. Thou shalt favor the color orange in respect to Daisy. To favor the color orange is cool, yo.
9. Daisy's jersey number is 9- Shout out, yo!
10. Thou shalt give demand that Daisy appear in more Mario games with lead, character-developing, playable roles, but respect all that the spin-offs have for Daisy, and to not shame or disrespect that Daisy gets to be playable so often in them, and to understand that most of the time being in a main Mario game just means you're an unplayable supporting character or doing the same thing as Mario anyway, yo.
Yeah, so do you remember back when Daisy was tanned? âcos nintendo obviously doesnât. you know, sheâs only the princesses of the DESERT LANDS. sheâs way too pasty nowadays. also the pink-gold crown is sick, away better than that standard regular-ass-gold crap
The palettes used during the N64 era were actually darker than the ones used before and after. Had they not been, this complaint literally would not exist. Donât believe me? Okay, look at Mario.
Thereâs also proof that Daisy always had a fairer skin tone than even Mario.
Mario Party 3 begs to differ.
Which is basically the one time they (seemingly) actively tried. (Thereâs a small chance this is an in-game processing error.) As the design contradicts Daisy both before and after the N64 era, I must honestly wonder. To reiterate: other than maybe this (and possibly the Melee trophy), the tan was due to tthe darker palettes used.
allow me to refute your argument further. by âpre-N64â Im asuming youâre referring to the only game she appeared in before the N64, super Mario land. witch, as you should recall, is in black and white, as as for after:
this is the color select menu from super smash brothers melee. the peach skin made to look like daisy has obviously darker skin. i donât think this is was a âprocessing errorâ or âdarker palletsâ
Your first argument doesnât hold for two reasons. The first is your poor assumption that Iâm talking in-game, even though this exists:
The other reason it doesnât hold is because this also exists:
The second picture is from NES/Famicom Open Tournament Golf. There was indeed artwork pre-N64. Though there are differences in the lighting, one thing holds: Daisy is not truly tan. If she was, there would be absolutely no chance of her being lighter than Mario. Hell, sheâs about as light as Peach.
Your second argument ignores one crucial aspect: when Melee was released, it was toward the end of the N64 era; in other words, the palettes were still darker than the ones before and after.
NOT SO FAST! your not getting away that easily. youâre forgetting that not all art-work is wright even, if itâs official.
Kirbyâs first game was also on the game boy, because the game is black and white the artist for the box art of the game didnât know what color kirby should be, so rather than a pink kirby (or Miyamoto's yellow kirby) we got this:
is it so hard to believe that the same thing could have happened twice? given that the only reference for Daisy they would have had looked likeâŠ
 IS THIS!?!
Once again, your argument is confounded by two things, the first being an assumption, which is even less correct than the first. The reason why Kirby is white in that image is simply because of confusion caused not simply by not knowing how he would look in color but because of a feud still in action at the time of North American launch (Miyamotoâs yellow or Sakuraiâs pink?).
The other thing that confounds your argument is this:
The original release date of Kirbyâs Dream Land is April 27, 1992 in Japan.
Care to continue, Wright?
I've already covered this, thoroughly HERE The tan was not a part of her established first two appearances, and the first time it was introduced she only had it in artwork, not in-game. And compared to most anyone who wasn't Peach, her skin wasn't notably tan. And good job to the first person using artwork of Daisy from Mario Party 5 from 2003, literally a freaking decade ago. And good job focusing on a design aspect of Daisy that barely existed for a year, for arguably three out of her almost fifty game appearances. If the only thing that you like about Daisy is that short-lasted appearance, you don't like Daisy and you can fuck off and move on.
Peach is confirmed to have a Black Dress palette swap and a Daisy palette swap that IS NOT a proper alt costume. Sorry Daisy fans, but sheâs not in this Smash either.
Sorry, not sorry! This is actually good news. For one thing, again, her being a "proper" alternate wouldn't please any real Daisy fans. For another, again, Mario's had his Wario costume even since Wario was made playable in the last game. This doesn't rule her out. (Though I have doubts based on Bowser Jr.'s inclusion lol)
I really like Daisy⊠but replaying Mario Kart recently made me wishâŠ. she didnât talk so much.
If you don't like how much she talks, you can walks! Bounce, yo!
From what resurfaced from leaks, itâs looking that weâre getting more costumes altering characters completely in SSB4. The Koopaling-alt thing is being supported quite by the fact that thereâs now Larry-trophy depicting in one (unusually for him) and even Bowser Jr not fighting by his own rather, but his Koopa Clown Car. This would support the idea of easily switching the âDriverâ to other Koopalings in a whim, as theyâd function same.
We also saw Metal Sonic in one leak video some days ago, showing him as another Alt Costume for Sonic, which now changes the character completely. Lastly, since the leak appears quite true, we could expect Alph to be one of Olimarâs alternate character look too akin to above characters and in fashion of Male Wii Fit Trainer, female Villagers and F!Robin.
Considering she was a basis for Peachâs yellow palette costume in last games. could this mean we might see Daisy as an ascended alt for Peach this time?
Metal Sonic-leak video here.
It was already confirmed that characters that are slightly different to one another would be made actually separate characters if theyâre in, so Daisy would be her own character, not a Peach alternate. The Koopalings are clearly interchangeable if theyâre just stuck in the Clown Car. Besides, Peach and Daisy really have more differences than Mario and Luigi do, anyway. And there are actually quite a few character inspired colors for characters who are already playable. Marioâs had his Wario pallet since the first Smash.
Tough luck then. Thereâs already Dr.Mario taking a separate clone spot according to the leak, which when combining rest of the Mario-newcomers, makes up for 7.
Daisyâs chances to show up is really dependent on being alt for Peach. Or she wonât be in the game at all.
I didn't actually see Dr. Mario as a separate character icon, so I think he might be an alternate costume. But weather he is or isn't, I counted Daisy out when I saw Bowser Jr, so. It would be tougher luck if she herself was an actual alternate model for Peach. That'd be stupid, and as I pointed out, it would also contradict what was stated.Â
People who want her to be an alternate model or think she should be are fucking dumb.Â
From what resurfaced from leaks, itâs looking that weâre getting more costumes altering characters completely in SSB4. The Koopaling-alt thing is being supported quite by the fact that thereâs now Larry-trophy depicting in one (unusually for him) and even Bowser Jr not fighting by his own rather, but his Koopa Clown Car. This would support the idea of easily switching the âDriverâ to other Koopalings in a whim, as theyâd function same.
We also saw Metal Sonic in one leak video some days ago, showing him as another Alt Costume for Sonic, which now changes the character completely. Lastly, since the leak appears quite true, we could expect Alph to be one of Olimarâs alternate character look too akin to above characters and in fashion of Male Wii Fit Trainer, female Villagers and F!Robin.
Considering she was a basis for Peachâs yellow palette costume in last games. could this mean we might see Daisy as an ascended alt for Peach this time?
Metal Sonic-leak video here.
It was already confirmed that characters that are slightly different to one another would be made actually separate characters if they're in, so Daisy would be her own character, not a Peach alternate. The Koopalings are clearly interchangeable if they're just stuck in the Clown Car. Besides, Peach and Daisy really have more differences than Mario and Luigi do, anyway. And there are actually quite a few character inspired colors for characters who are already playable. Mario's had his Wario pallet since the first Smash.
"Do you hear something?"
She hears the air of betrayal as she looks back at you to silently question why you're letting her be decimated.
Let's Talk Color: The lack of representation of people of color in the Mario series is still a lively topic. Being that I'm Daisy crazy, I happen to have experience comparing Daisy to all the other Mario characters in many ways. I wanna talk about this because when it comes to the development of Daisy's appearance, one thing people seem to pinpoint a lot is her skin-tone. I'm comparing Mario, Daisy, and Waluigi here. Why? Mario and Luigi almost always have the same skin-tone, and Waluigi usually takes his skin-tone from Wario. All details of the Mario characters are a little variable even now, mind you. To Begin With: Starting from before these characters were rendered in three-dimensions, let's look at their early representations in two-dimensions. Mario's skin-tone was very simmilar to how it appears today. Sometimes he was lighter, sometimes he was more medium. Daisy's was also as it is today; pretty light. In the art for Super Mario Land Daisy was noticeably lighter than Mario, but as of NES Open Tournament Golf it was more similar if not slightly lighter still. Waluigi's concept art surprisingly shows him with very uniquely pallor skin-tone.
Back in My Day: Moving to the Nintendo 64 era, Mario games made a change to 3D to keep-up with video-games of this time. In Mario Tennis, artwork depicts Daisy with a bit of a tan. She actually still has a very similar if not still lighter skin-tone to Mario, who as of Super Mari 64 sports this current tan skin-tone. What got people noticing Daisy's tan was how as of this time Peach had noticeably lighter skin than Mario and Luigi. So compared to Peach, which is all people were doing with Daisy, they noticed a tan. In the same art, Wario and Waluigi sport deeper skin-tones than Mario, Luigi, and Daisy, though. Wario usually had the same skin-tone as Mario prior to this, so this was a new distinction. Oddly enough, in-game Waluigi is one of the only characters with a unique skin-tone. Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, and even Wario all had the same lighter skin-tones they sported prior to 3D. As of Mario Party 3, things changed a bit. In the artwork, Daisy still had a similar but slightly lighter tan to Mario and Luigi, and Wario and Waluigi had their own skin-tones, and Peach was still lighter than the others. In-game, Daisy actually had the exact same skin-tone as Mario and Luigi, except for a noticeable variance in the color. Waluigi's skin-tone was also more in-line with his artwork. The End of an Era: A sort've in-between of the end of this era and the coming one, Super Smash Bros. Melee used the Mario series' designs of the Nintendo 64. Possibly because this was a very early game in the GameCube era, to the point the Mario series hadn't been shown with it's updated look yet. So it really solidified these looks, and also used them for the last time while they were at it. Mario and Daisy still sported their tan skin-tones, but this time Mario was noticeably darker than Daisy. And Waluigi is shown to have unquestionably dark skin. Before I go over everything all together, I've also provided a number of artworks of Mario, Daisy, and Waluigi throughout the start of the GameCube era in 2002 all the way until now in 2014. Mario is consistently of a light or medium skin-tone. Daisy is consistently of a unique light skin-tone. Waluigi is consistently of a medium or deep skin-tone. So What Does This Mean: So what does this mean? What can you take from all this? You can take that as far as the N64 era was concerned, Daisy wasn't by any means dark, she simply was no longer as light as Peach. Heck, even her ginger hair was notably darker during this time-period. She was still lighter or the same as most of the other characters. So even though she's not really tan now like she was during this time, that tan wasn't clearly there to represent a dark skin-tone or a person of color. As of her appearances after Melee, she was still given a unique skin-tone from Peach. Sometimes she's lighter than Peach, but she always sports a unique skin color from Peach. This means compared to the other characters, because you shouldn't only compare Daisy to Peach, Daisy is actually more unique now when it comes to her skin-tone than she ever was previously; if you disagree with this your Daisy-fu is weak and not up to my level, nerd. If anyone should be the answer to the representation of a person of color, it would be Waluigi. Maybe even more-so than Wario if you take some inconsistencies into mind. But also taking inconsistencies into mind, it is unlikely Waluigi or Wario are meant to be representative of anything for people of color, either, unfortunately. If they were, they would likely be more recognized for it. In Closing: So in closing, why do people so strongly focus on Daisy's tan, then. It lasted seemingly one full year from 2000 to 2001, occurs in only 3 of Daisy's almost 50 appearances, and was by FACT less significant than the tans most other Mario characters sported at the exact same time. Well I can only assume it's because due to graphical-limitations of the N64 games, and due to the Melee costume Peach had representing Daisy, most people were first introduced to Daisy in a way they perceived her as a literal color-swap of Peach; though she never has been. So if all you focused on is the color-differences, Daisy looked dark compared to Peach. She wasn't dark, but that was what people were left thinking. To me, it's all simply unfortunate. They did a lot to make Daisy more unique as of the GC era, so for people to not appreciate her for the character she has been for the majority of her appearances at this point, it just really disappoints me as a big fan of the character. Not just an aspect of the character, or a part of the character, or what I want the character to be, but who the character really is at this point, and what they've done with her to get her here.
And of course I understand wanting more for the character. I want a lot more for Daisy. But I'm very real about even just as far as her appearance is concerned. As I went over, Mario and Luigi have the same skin-tone. They also have the same hair color, same hairstyle, the same eye color, the same eye-shape, and especially the same outfit in different colors. Peach and Daisy have all that in the way of what is different, and whatever aspects of Peach and Daisy that are similar, are at least more different than most all other complementary characters in the Mario series. So to this day I don't get why she's still so misunderstood by so many. There you go.
Official art of Daisy from Mario Tennis 64
Fans of Daisy feel like the character Princess Daisy is being necgleted. Rosalinaâs been getting alotâŠ
sign the petition to add princess daisy to smash
You wont see any of the "popular" Daisy blogs doing anything to fuel the fire, but here's my boost.
/suddenly realizes that every human character in the Mario Bros. universe is white.
/also remembers Daisy was once olive-skinned before design change
OH look, another idiot thinking Daisy wasnât white because she suddenly had a tan for a year after already debuting with white skin. Also another person ignoring the deep skin-tones Wario and Waluigi and even Mario and Luigi sport half the time even now. Stop
daisyallday: Listen here, you fucking goat-clit munching pile of trash:
So I forgot that her character had appeared prior to Mario Tennis for the N64, big fucking whoop. So she was pasty as fuck in some concept art FOR TWO GAMES WHERE SHE WASNâT EVEN PLAYABLE PRIOR TO MARIO TENNIS.
BACK THE FUCK UP AND TAKE A MOTHERFUCKING SEAT.
Iâm the fucking idiot when youâre the one talking about Mario, Luigi, Wario, and Waluigiâs âdeep skin-tonesâ
OH MY FUCKING GOD GUYS LOOK AT THESE INCREDIBLY DARK SKIN TONES. I HAD NO IDEA WARIO AND WALUIGI WERE HISPANIC OR BLACK OMFG
Youâre disgusting, pretending like Nintendo includes PoC when they donât. Youâre probably white, too, and if youâre not, then that just makes you a fucking disgrace.
Wow, maybe if you post more gifs and spout more random insults, youâll look even more like youâre a 12 year old! "remembers Daisy was once olive-skinned before design change" You clearly implied you thought Daisy was ever not white because of her tan. The point is, when Daisy had âolive-skinâ as you put it, her tan was not even as significant as how often other characters sport similar and often deeper skin-tones.
And I donât know how Iâm âpretending like Nintendo includes PoC when they donât.â when that seemed to be what you were doing with Daisyâs tan. I literally only mentioned the other charactersâ deeper skin because compared to Daisyâs tan, again, it usually is. I donât think these characters are Hispanic, for one thing because that would connect them to a specific culture, or at all Black and did nothing to imply it. Clean yourself up, youâre a flaming mess. And âyou fucking goat-clit munching pile of trashâ? This just sounds all sorts of questionable. Who are you trying to offend with that? As Aisha Tyler said, âitâs impossible to argue with an idiot. Itâs like trying to talk a rock into having sex with you. Waste of time. Rocks ainât got no genitals.â
Wow, okay, so comparing concept art to rendered images of the character is the standard for determining skin color? Is that what I am supposed to gather from this?
But, before I get into this, thanks for neither confirming nor denying that you are indeed a pasty-ass bitch and therefore have no leg to stand on in the first place when talking about race or representation.
You failed to address anything I mentioned of relevance, at all. Nintendo has a white-washed cast. Daisy wasnât in that category before Mario Party 4 because the only two appearances she made that were of relevance had her appear as darker then the rest of the human characters. Could she have had a tan? Sure, thatâs a possibility, but why rule out that maybe she was a PoC? Why white-wash her after she had already been shown to be much darker than Peach? âBecause she debuted as whiteâ BIG FUCKING DEAL. Sheâs a fictional character. She wasnât established as anyone important until she stuck around for party games after the Gamecube was released. In fact, funny how this works, Daisyâs design wasnât tampered with until MP4 when she was made a part of the âstaple crewâ of playable characters in Mario spin-offs.
Oh, and quoting a black actress in an attempt to appear cultured or simply to save face is tasteless, tacky and deplorable.
(Did you notice the lack of .gifs? I thought maybe you could wrap your head around what Iâm saying without so many images distracting you since you clearly canât focus on more than one thing at a time <3)
No, like I mentioned Daisyâs tan was short-lasted and the tans these other characters sport happen half the time even now. Even the art you used of Wario has a similar if not still a deeper skin-tone to the art I used for Daisy. Plus, you have a clear misunderstanding of the difference of concept art and 2D character art. All the Mario art during Daisyâs first two appearances was 2D. It wasnât even until the N64 era they did 3D art. Art being 2D doesnât make it concept art, duh.
I like how you think whether or not Iâm white is winning your argument.
No, her skin wasnât darker than the others. If you look at the other character art for Mario Tennis or Mario Party 3, the other characters I mentioned are just as if not darker than her. Thatâs the problem with people like you, you focus on Daisyâs short-lasted tan when for other characters it has been more significant. That was the whole point of what I already said. "Daisyâs design wasnât tampered with until MP4 when she was made a part of the âstaple crewâ of playable characters in Mario spin-offs.â Yes it was, and youâre ignoring that. Her design was tampered with as of the instant they gave her a tan. Youâre going to try and call white-washing on a character who was white before she could have even been seen as anything other than white? And what are you doing? Youâre literally contradicting yourself now. Going from âYouâre disgusting, pretending like Nintendo includes PoC when they donât.â to âwhy rule out that maybe she was a PoC? Why white-wash her.â
I quoted Aisha Tyler because Aisha Tyler is a boss and youâre also proving that quote useful as arguing these points with you is useless because youâre delusional and on top of your ignorance youâre trying to attack me based on MY race, by trying to find it out to comment on it based on all this, even. Stay classy.
It isnât really an argument when one side (yours) enjoys the smell of their own shit (your responses) so much that their head is shoved literally up their own ass.
"People like me"? You mean people who enjoyed seeing a character who wasnât white for the briefest of moments? Oh, Iâm sorry that nobody acknowledges the fucking farmerâs tan that the the Mario and Wario Bros. get during sports season, silly me.
I questioned the possibility of her not being white. I didnât say Nintendo included a non-White character and suddenly changed her to white. There is no canon statement to imply that Daisy is anything but white. Daisy could have been a PoC but she wasnât. That is not contradictory to either of my statements because:
A) Nintendo doesnât have a single PoC in the Mario cast to-date.
B) Daisy could have been the exception to the rule, but isnât.
She started as pale, became tan when she was made playable or the first time, and again after that, and was then made white again, almost more so than Peach. Itâs still fucking white-washing. You cannot honestly sit here and argue that they did not take a character and lighten their skin tone when that is exactly what they did.
It happens with the other characters, too. Again, you're either ignoring it or passing it off as what pleases your opinion. Daisy had a tan for seemingly two out of her almost 40-50 appearances to-date, and you seem to have it in your head she was suddenly not-white, when what I've told you repeatedly is that the fact that this happens with other characters, not just more often but more significantly should mean more to you if this is your line of thinking. But instead you want to pass off the skin-tones of the other characters as farmer-tans, which would have to be accompanied by some tan-lines, which isn't the case, simply because you're stuck on a short-lasted design for Daisy that wasn't a part of her first two established appearances, anyway.
Daisy's white, she's not the answer to the need for representation of non-white people because of an insignificant tan.
You wanna talk about shit, refer to your initial reply and all the shit-spouting you did there, shit-face. Since you love gifs:
Daisy just wants to be in the Smash Bros. World.
Daisy's orangey hair would make her the best looking mermaid, obvi-
/suddenly realizes that every human character in the Mario Bros. universe is white.
/also remembers Daisy was once olive-skinned before design change
OH look, another idiot thinking Daisy wasnât white because she suddenly had a tan for a year after already debuting with white skin. Also another person ignoring the deep skin-tones Wario and Waluigi and even Mario and Luigi sport half the time even now. Stop
Calling them an idiot is too harsh. That being said Daisy DID start out white
Donât forget, white folks can get EXTREMELY tan with enough sun exposure. Therefore tan =/= different race. That being said, again, it would be nice to have more diversity in Mario human characters.
Exactly. I too desire more representation for people of color. But Daisy's limited tan is not the answer to that. And if you thought what I said was too harsh, check out their reply. lol