[discourse-dragon]

"dragon why are all your posts about trans women you look like a transmisogynist" well that's simple this is a sideblog that I don't put any fuckin effort into and only reblog shit that pisses me off. And transfem tumblr has been showing its whole entire ass and pulling the panties to the side in regards to blatant racism, harassment, refusing to talk about the incest/rape/underage fetishes behind closed doors or in designated spaces, falling into cringe ass 2010s "kill all men" shit but desperately trying to convince everyone it's woke this time, refusing to unpack or address the massive 4/chan misogyny culture, martyring open pedophiles, pedophile defenders, racists, abusers, grifters in the name of "if she's being accused of something it's likely a psyop", the list is literally endless

And it's not even really about the individuals, it's about the mindset they peddle to their followers, which reblog it and put it on the dashes of more well adjusted people. It's about refusing so deeply to meet people halfway they insist the only people who could ever be safe are people who think exactly like them.

And while transmascs and nb and intersex ppl also obviously have bad actors, always have and always will, when they get knocked from their internet microcelebrity peg, they don't tend to form a meat shield of defenders who lash out and call you a pedojacketing bigot. Just saying.

Important note! OP is an intersex transfem so if you disagree with me you're a turbo bigot

[trans-masked]

I can't figure our how to screenshot on my laptop but I just read a comment on the puppy girl article where someone said "you just think the role you played should be occupied by an AFAB person instead" and Tara Knight said "true" Jesus FUCKING christ

[trans-masked]

[noblackwomannocry]

as part of the transfem voices project, mousidy felt the need to highlight the voice of a woman who, as a 12 year old boy addicted to loli pornography, molested an 8 year old girl and spent years in the juvenile detention system as a result. this woman is now a 30 year old self-admitted pedophile, enabled by parents (whose support she credits with keeping her alive) who have seemingly coddled her every step of the way, including somehow allowing their child the means to easily access pornography after molesting another child, who now self-flagellates on tumblr about how much she wants to die because people would want her dead just knowing that she is a pedophile. not even based on the fact that she was a 12 year old boy that molested an 8 year old girl.

she loosely connects her story to transmisogyny at the end by going "well idk if I faced transmisogyny before I came out but I did after I'm so scared because transmisogynists would call me a pedophile and they would be right everyone wants me dead I can't be pedojacketed because I have the jacket on :("

great #OwnVoices job, team. knocked it out of the park. hit the showers.

if you are able, consider donating to a group like Survivors of Incest Anonymous, which helps provide a safe space for victims of CSA, including victims of COCSA, to talk about and heal from their experiences.

[discourse-dragon]

That mouse bitch is still yapping about her own incorrect interpretation of gendered socialization oh my god girl we get it you're white ex christian and really want to be a victim about it. Go join the rest of the republicans 😭

[getinthebox]

>most of the New Annoying Kink Discourse centering around trans women who are very obviously through text patterns and topics either derivative or directly from the /lgbt/ board >at least slightly likely that pre-transition some women held beliefs of white supremacy/general /pol/ nonsense >realize they're trans women, get a taste of systematic and personal oppression for the first time >think they're the most oppressed person in the room and have no idea what intersectionality could even entail because clearly they have it the worst

tldr; the white trans girl stereotype has a point to existing i fear

[getinthebox]

and when this ever gets pointed out by anyone even as a joke they start fucking BAWLING because oh how dare you remember she's white first. You're literally hurting her feelings, and that's murder.

[discourse-dragon]

If I got nothing else going for me at least I'm a transfem who loves and takes pride in being a full grown adult 😊 I love watching movies and reading books for grownups 😊 and not making youtube cartoons or ikea shark or awawa into my entire personality 😊

[discourse-dragon]

This is what liking one single decent transfeminism post will put on your fyp. Which could mean nothing

[trans-masked]

I think the terms “rapejacketing” and “pedojacketing” were invented because “false allegations” sounded too obviously incel-y

[discourse-dragon]

[moveslikekeithrichards]

i feel like some of us on here are treating "sometimes disorders can cause harmful behaviors" and "you are responsible for your actions" as mutually exclusive concepts

like, many disorders & disabilities notably affect behavior, communication, and relationships, as does stress, discomfort, and hardship in general, and we should give people a little grace when theyre going through a tough time. but also, if you repeatedly hurt the people who care about you and make no effort to apologize, or improve, or make up for it, or even just own up to it, those people are under no obligation to endure being treated badly

[tlirsgender]

Teenagers are like that because every problem feels the same amount of Catastrophic. There's no sense of scale going on there cause they lack frame of reference. This isn't the fault of The Teenager but it does explain the Discourse Circles I was in when I was younger. Like it operates in both "blowing shit that doesn't matter WAY out of proportion" and "not taking Real Problems seriously enough". This is why dni banners are like that

[tlirsgender]

I fear the only cure for this is to simply stop being a teenager. If you're an adult and still like this I hope you stop being a teenager soon

[just-your-neighborhood-anarchist]

​To everyone who has a paraphilia, I want you to know that you aren't evil. Humans cannot control their attractions or intrusive thoughts. The true indicators of our morality and character are how we conduct ourselves in the world and how we treat other people, animals, and all living beings.

​Being a paraphile does not mean you are doomed to offend. It does not mean you are an uncontrollable monster.

​Having these feelings does not mean you support or agree with those who have caused harm/consumed unethical material. Your life is not over, and your future is not set in stone.

​My only hope is that you find people who love you for the person you choose to be, regardless of the thoughts and attractions you have. You are in control of yourself and your future, nobody else.

[cyberpunkpavlichenko]

What has happened to transfemme culture that every other one of you talks like a 2010s “ahktually, the age of consent is 14 in that state” libertarian

[noblackwomannocry]

the worst part about that Buyer's Market (the "album" that consists of police interviews with CSA victims and their parents used by a pedophile without their consent so he could set background music and put it together as his work) post is the complete lack of reflection within the whole thing that isn't centred around taxxon as a person and how she thinks She's grown. the justification for being into it then was being such a sad lonely autistic teen boy that she couldn't help but opt for the obscure shock factor of a pedophile's shlock. her more "nuanced" opinion on it now stems from her now not being a sad lonely autistic teen but a grown autistic woman with friends.

even when talking about it being funny is "haha isn't this darkly satirical. it's like a PSA!" in not a single post related to this does she express any thoughts on the fact that a pedophile convicted for his ownership of CSEM took police interviews with CSA victims and their parents and made it into an album other than to go "wow what an interesting piece of art." because she, nor any of the people like her who are constantly going on about the Societal Pedophile Boogeyman in response to any criticism of their child sex fetish posting, actually give a fuck about victims of CSA, they can be brushed aside for the sake of Whoa Cool Art, Convicted Child Sex Abuse Material Owner!

it's how you can tell she grew up on 4chan, prime real estate of teen boys with no sense of empathy or appropriate behaviour for two decades plus, where the shock of anything existing just makes it high quality entertainment. less than ten years after she was actively posting on the music board the only personality growth she has shown is her transition and an openness to talk about her child sex fetish and autopedophilia. if you know what 4chan posters are like taxxon is the type you can glance at and know without a second thought used to post with a tripcode lmao

[noblackwomannocry]

this post sums up why they feel so bad about male socialisation being pointed out. it's like when you tell white people they benefit from and perpetuate racism and they can't handle it normally, they can't think "hm maybe this should inform how I see the world and treat others", they curl up into a ball and start talking about how it's not their fault they couldn't escape their meemaw's gollywog collection and their dad calling their friend a nigger that one time and how everyone thinks they'll be racist forever and how they should just apologise for being racist forever, because that's what we want. what they are uncomfortable with is the idea of even temporarily having been treated in a manner that made them more privileged at the time.

[frustrated-accomplice]

Calling it male socialization is the issue here, especially in response to trans women saying its hurtful and why shes hurt by it. It is explicitly pointing to them and reminding them that they were born a boy and can never change that. To the point that it almost sounds like saying that you can tell they were born a boy. Thats cruel to do to a trans person. Even if its "unintentional".

Its also assuming how they were raised and weather or not their parents could tell they were queer or trans at a young age. Something you cant tell unless they admit to it, and usually people only talk about it if their parents were mean and awful about their transness.

I think its important for the conversation abt gender expectations to be upheld, but specifically pointing to a random trans woman on the site upset that shes being called male socialized, and using that as justification to be mad at "them" (assuming you are talking about every trans woman on the site, and not this specific user) is unhelpful. The language is incredibly flawed for the point youre trying to make. Of course a trans woman is going to be uncomfortable being called "male", even if theres another word attached to it- especially if it doesnt denote transition.

Imo I dont think i ever met any trans women that perpetuated anything expected of young boys, at least in friend groups im in, nor do i ever see it online. I dont feel like theres much of a reason to point to a minority to say "Some of these are people perpetuated the patriarchy by being born boys" is especially reductive when the previous argument on tumblr gender arguments was weather or not trans men perpetuate the patriarchy by having "male privilege".

[noblackwomannocry]

if I called it any other name that didn't personally hurt the feelings of someone who thinks that being reminded that they transitioned from something is so unbearably hurtful that nobody can use terminology that references it, would the idea of "you had privileges by virtue of not being from an oppressed group that half the population of Earth belongs to at that point in time" still be an easy pill to swallow?

I do not care if it is hurtful to hear. it is not my problem that someone hasn't come to terms with their past. I don't care if it's hurtful for white people to hear that they benefited from and likely perpetuated racism growing up even if they aren't racist now and I don't care if it's hurtful to hear that those raised as boys benefited from and likely perpetuated misogyny even if they aren't misogynists now. if you aren't that thing now there is no reason this should be anything but something to go "point taken" to when we are talking about something as globally societally pervasive as misogyny. if you hear about this and feel like it's an original sin that you will never get over instead of something that you just need to consciously acknowledge as having happened there is no difference between you and white people that curl up into a ball and cry if you even insinuate that they might still have racist beliefs that one has from being raised white.

like everyone else you keep talking about how it'd be so different if their parents could tell they were queer or trans like people still don't treat trans and gnc and queer children differently based on their gender. people literally treat their months old babies differently based on their gender. people being mean to you about early signs of your queerness, gender nonconformity and transness are reactions that they have based on your gender and conforming to norms about your gender. people don't know or care about what you might be ten years down the line, they know you're a gangly dirty little girl refusing to wear a bra and dresses or a little boy with a caesar cut watching too much Sailor Moon and those around you whether at home or outside of it will try to make you conform based on your gender.

a little girl is going to be subject to misogyny that a little boy is not based on her gender and will continue to be affected by that upbringing because of how she was treated based on her gender. can we agree on that? is that basic enough? does it feel less biting if phrased that way?

Imo I dont think i ever met any trans women that perpetuated anything expected of young boys

I can't continue addressing anything you've said in this post because your anecdote is as useless as mine and I already addressed most of this here but since we're doing anecdotes. one of the trans women who I know hates being reminded of her own misogyny (because she is a misogynist to this day lol) is from my own region and, as a teenager, told me, a child in primary school in my primary school uniform who looked like a child in primary school, that I wouldn't have adult men harassing me on the street if I wasn't walking Like A Slut. another just straight up called me a nigger bitch that she would rape over TeamSpeak because I won a Sniper duel.

seriously if I go "girls are oppressed under the patriarchy by being born girls" we can all clap, but when we address that girls' and women's peers at all ages also perpetuate the oppression regardless of their identity, suddenly every little boy was the sweetest darling gentle fly that never hurt a little girl in his life or intersex or had mean parents or actually was the one truly hurt BY misogyny and misogyny to women and girls just took place around him while he sighed and yearned for something different. like are we for real.

[noblackwomannocry]

this post sums up why they feel so bad about male socialisation being pointed out. it's like when you tell white people they benefit from and perpetuate racism and they can't handle it normally, they can't think "hm maybe this should inform how I see the world and treat others", they curl up into a ball and start talking about how it's not their fault they couldn't escape their meemaw's gollywog collection and their dad calling their friend a nigger that one time and how everyone thinks they'll be racist forever and how they should just apologise for being racist forever, because that's what we want. what they are uncomfortable with is the idea of even temporarily having been treated in a manner that made them more privileged at the time.

[frustrated-accomplice]

Calling it male socialization is the issue here, especially in response to trans women saying its hurtful and why shes hurt by it. It is explicitly pointing to them and reminding them that they were born a boy and can never change that. To the point that it almost sounds like saying that you can tell they were born a boy. Thats cruel to do to a trans person. Even if its "unintentional".

Its also assuming how they were raised and weather or not their parents could tell they were queer or trans at a young age. Something you cant tell unless they admit to it, and usually people only talk about it if their parents were mean and awful about their transness.

I think its important for the conversation abt gender expectations to be upheld, but specifically pointing to a random trans woman on the site upset that shes being called male socialized, and using that as justification to be mad at "them" (assuming you are talking about every trans woman on the site, and not this specific user) is unhelpful. The language is incredibly flawed for the point youre trying to make. Of course a trans woman is going to be uncomfortable being called "male", even if theres another word attached to it- especially if it doesnt denote transition.

Imo I dont think i ever met any trans women that perpetuated anything expected of young boys, at least in friend groups im in, nor do i ever see it online. I dont feel like theres much of a reason to point to a minority to say "Some of these are people perpetuated the patriarchy by being born boys" is especially reductive when the previous argument on tumblr gender arguments was weather or not trans men perpetuate the patriarchy by having "male privilege".

[noblackwomannocry]

if I called it any other name that didn't personally hurt the feelings of someone who thinks that being reminded that they transitioned from something is so unbearably hurtful that nobody can use terminology that references it, would the idea of "you had privileges by virtue of not being from an oppressed group that half the population of Earth belongs to at that point in time" still be an easy pill to swallow?

I do not care if it is hurtful to hear. it is not my problem that someone hasn't come to terms with their past. I don't care if it's hurtful for white people to hear that they benefited from and likely perpetuated racism growing up even if they aren't racist now and I don't care if it's hurtful to hear that those raised as boys benefited from and likely perpetuated misogyny even if they aren't misogynists now. if you aren't that thing now there is no reason this should be anything but something to go "point taken" to when we are talking about something as globally societally pervasive as misogyny. if you hear about this and feel like it's an original sin that you will never get over instead of something that you just need to consciously acknowledge as having happened there is no difference between you and white people that curl up into a ball and cry if you even insinuate that they might still have racist beliefs that one has from being raised white.

like everyone else you keep talking about how it'd be so different if their parents could tell they were queer or trans like people still don't treat trans and gnc and queer children differently based on their gender. people literally treat their months old babies differently based on their gender. people being mean to you about early signs of your queerness, gender nonconformity and transness are reactions that they have based on your gender and conforming to norms about your gender. people don't know or care about what you might be ten years down the line, they know you're a gangly dirty little girl refusing to wear a bra and dresses or a little boy with a caesar cut watching too much Sailor Moon and those around you whether at home or outside of it will try to make you conform based on your gender.

a little girl is going to be subject to misogyny that a little boy is not based on her gender and will continue to be affected by that upbringing because of how she was treated based on her gender. can we agree on that? is that basic enough? does it feel less biting if phrased that way?

Imo I dont think i ever met any trans women that perpetuated anything expected of young boys

I can't continue addressing anything you've said in this post because your anecdote is as useless as mine and I already addressed most of this here but since we're doing anecdotes. one of the trans women who I know hates being reminded of her own misogyny (because she is a misogynist to this day lol) is from my own region and, as a teenager, told me, a child in primary school in my primary school uniform who looked like a child in primary school, that I wouldn't have adult men harassing me on the street if I wasn't walking Like A Slut. another just straight up called me a nigger bitch that she would rape over TeamSpeak because I won a Sniper duel.

seriously if I go "girls are oppressed under the patriarchy by being born girls" we can all clap, but when we address that girls' and women's peers at all ages also perpetuate the oppression regardless of their identity, suddenly every little boy was the sweetest darling gentle fly that never hurt a little girl in his life or intersex or had mean parents or actually was the one truly hurt BY misogyny and misogyny to women and girls just took place around him while he sighed and yearned for something different. like are we for real.

[noblackwomannocry]

this post sums up why they feel so bad about male socialisation being pointed out. it's like when you tell white people they benefit from and perpetuate racism and they can't handle it normally, they can't think "hm maybe this should inform how I see the world and treat others", they curl up into a ball and start talking about how it's not their fault they couldn't escape their meemaw's gollywog collection and their dad calling their friend a nigger that one time and how everyone thinks they'll be racist forever and how they should just apologise for being racist forever, because that's what we want. what they are uncomfortable with is the idea of even temporarily having been treated in a manner that made them more privileged at the time.

[frustrated-accomplice]

Calling it male socialization is the issue here, especially in response to trans women saying its hurtful and why shes hurt by it. It is explicitly pointing to them and reminding them that they were born a boy and can never change that. To the point that it almost sounds like saying that you can tell they were born a boy. Thats cruel to do to a trans person. Even if its "unintentional".

Its also assuming how they were raised and weather or not their parents could tell they were queer or trans at a young age. Something you cant tell unless they admit to it, and usually people only talk about it if their parents were mean and awful about their transness.

I think its important for the conversation abt gender expectations to be upheld, but specifically pointing to a random trans woman on the site upset that shes being called male socialized, and using that as justification to be mad at "them" (assuming you are talking about every trans woman on the site, and not this specific user) is unhelpful. The language is incredibly flawed for the point youre trying to make. Of course a trans woman is going to be uncomfortable being called "male", even if theres another word attached to it- especially if it doesnt denote transition.

Imo I dont think i ever met any trans women that perpetuated anything expected of young boys, at least in friend groups im in, nor do i ever see it online. I dont feel like theres much of a reason to point to a minority to say "Some of these are people perpetuated the patriarchy by being born boys" is especially reductive when the previous argument on tumblr gender arguments was weather or not trans men perpetuate the patriarchy by having "male privilege".

[noblackwomannocry]

if I called it any other name that didn't personally hurt the feelings of someone who thinks that being reminded that they transitioned from something is so unbearably hurtful that nobody can use terminology that references it, would the idea of "you had privileges by virtue of not being from an oppressed group that half the population of Earth belongs to at that point in time" still be an easy pill to swallow?

I do not care if it is hurtful to hear. it is not my problem that someone hasn't come to terms with their past. I don't care if it's hurtful for white people to hear that they benefited from and likely perpetuated racism growing up even if they aren't racist now and I don't care if it's hurtful to hear that those raised as boys benefited from and likely perpetuated misogyny even if they aren't misogynists now. if you aren't that thing now there is no reason this should be anything but something to go "point taken" to when we are talking about something as globally societally pervasive as misogyny. if you hear about this and feel like it's an original sin that you will never get over instead of something that you just need to consciously acknowledge as having happened there is no difference between you and white people that curl up into a ball and cry if you even insinuate that they might still have racist beliefs that one has from being raised white.

like everyone else you keep talking about how it'd be so different if their parents could tell they were queer or trans like people still don't treat trans and gnc and queer children differently based on their gender. people literally treat their months old babies differently based on their gender. people being mean to you about early signs of your queerness, gender nonconformity and transness are reactions that they have based on your gender and conforming to norms about your gender. people don't know or care about what you might be ten years down the line, they know you're a gangly dirty little girl refusing to wear a bra and dresses or a little boy with a caesar cut watching too much Sailor Moon and those around you whether at home or outside of it will try to make you conform based on your gender.

a little girl is going to be subject to misogyny that a little boy is not based on her gender and will continue to be affected by that upbringing because of how she was treated based on her gender. can we agree on that? is that basic enough? does it feel less biting if phrased that way?

Imo I dont think i ever met any trans women that perpetuated anything expected of young boys

I can't continue addressing anything you've said in this post because your anecdote is as useless as mine and I already addressed most of this here but since we're doing anecdotes. one of the trans women who I know hates being reminded of her own misogyny (because she is a misogynist to this day lol) is from my own region and, as a teenager, told me, a child in primary school in my primary school uniform who looked like a child in primary school, that I wouldn't have adult men harassing me on the street if I wasn't walking Like A Slut. another just straight up called me a nigger bitch that she would rape over TeamSpeak because I won a Sniper duel.

seriously if I go "girls are oppressed under the patriarchy by being born girls" we can all clap, but when we address that girls' and women's peers at all ages also perpetuate the oppression regardless of their identity, suddenly every little boy was the sweetest darling gentle fly that never hurt a little girl in his life or intersex or had mean parents or actually was the one truly hurt BY misogyny and misogyny to women and girls just took place around him while he sighed and yearned for something different. like are we for real.

[redhairandpronouns]

just go find a drug dealer bro. just go take some unregulated street drugs. its just a felony no big deal why are you being such a pussy about it. it's not like testosterone has any medical effects on your body that might interact with other medical conditions or medications or anything that might need to be monitered. you're just making up problems at this point