[smallcreaturething]

Do not use my posts to be transmisogynistic. Trans women are my sisters and we as trans men need to be in community with them. Transmisogyny and transandrophobia both exist and we do not need to tear each other down in the name of either

[largemandrill]

You like one post about how trans women shouldn’t be put in the meat grinder and suddenly tumblr is convinced you hate trans men. This website is setting up the division just as much as trfs are.

[cadaverer]

transmisogyny isn't 'girl transphobia' but also transmascs can't use that term ever. transfems are hypervisible but also transmascs are the 'default' trans. transmascs are lazy whining children but they're also running every lgbtq+ society on earth. society is systematically transphobic but also sees trans men as men and gives them male privilege. people afab can fall back on their agab for privilege but people amab never can.

[tallymrz375]

Frankly I think denying the existence of transandrophobia (and specifically also dismissing all transandrophobia as blanket “transphobia”) is very terf shit to do. Disgusting and backwards implications about the nature of masculinity and femininity

[grow-your-antlers]

"tmras" ... well yes, trans men need rights

[jimbles-archive]

[beastoftharizdun]

As someone who has watched many trans Native brothers disappear from the community without even a word or report, I genuinely despise the white trans women who want to say that they're somehow oppressed by Native trans men and trans men of color. At least your death will be passed around in the wider community and you'll have people defending you. Meanwhile I'll never see the greatest people in my life again because the government will never acknowledge the disappearances of Indigenous folk. Because unless their fellow Native trans siblings and family say something, none of you give a shit. There is no privilege in being treated like you never existed to begin with.

[violent-autoandrophilia]

I don't get the whole thing about trans men not experiencing misogyny. We are not cis men. We are still oppressed under the patriarchy for being viewed (whether it be physically, socially, or legally) as female. Did I miss a memo or what happened I thought it was common sense that anyone viewed as female was oppressed under the patriarchy.

[wicked-weaver]

Posts that go hard as fuck if you've never once payed attention to how those viewed as confused little girls are treated

[smallcreaturething]

Sorry I forgot being raped and forced through pregnancy and eventually dead to either suicide or murder was actually Not That Bad. Sorry!!! Sorry my bad!!!!

[han-the-human]

"Well you have the privilege of being able to go back in the closet and pretend to be a cis woman. Trans women don't have that privilege"

I don't think going back into the closet is a privilege for any trans person and you as a trans person should know that.

Also if detransitioning and pretending to be cis is a privilege than wouldn't trans women actually be privileged over trans men in that regard? You know, since if a trans woman detransitions then she will gain the conditional male privilege of being perceived as a cis man?

But oh no, detransitioning is only a privilege for trans men because they aren't real trannies like trans women

Trans men's feelings of dysphoria are just them being silly little girls birthday boys and also saying that trans men should just detransition so you'll treat them as human is totally not a transphobic opinion to have

[lookmomnouterus]

The biggest thing that stands out here to me is acknowledging that a person assigned female/living in a body assigned female experiences transmisogyny.

I thought they were ALWAYS tme

[oceanamethyst]

yes. transmascs face their own brand of transphobia unique to being transmasc that IS rooted in misogyny despite their true identity, that perisex transfemmes do not face, but you guys can't comprehend that because you haven't actually unpacked oppositional sexism

[han-the-human]

Y'all noticed the phenomenon where people will talk about bigots who attacked both trans men and trans women and refer to them as "transmisogynists" instead of just "transphobes"?

Seemingly as a means of erasing the harm that was done to trans men and nonbinary people?

I feel like I'm going fucking crazy.

[ftmiku]

i'm aware that a lot of marginalized cis men are oppressed in a way that denies their manhood, and i do think that's important, but something that never seems to get brought up here is that trans men have their manhood denied in a specific way that does not happen nearly as much to cis men marginalized in other ways, namely that we are forcibly gendered specifically as women. and it kind of irritates me when people are like "well, disabled men have male privilege over disabled women, so it's the same for trans men" because trans men do not actually have that- when a transphobe looks at a trans man, he is not identified as "a horrible tranny who also happens to be a man," he's, in general, identified as "a horrible tranny of the Delusional Woman variety, who needs to learn her place, which is being a woman." which doesn't happen to most cis men! idk if this is coherent at all just something i wanted to say

[bro-ur-literally-chips]

Attempting to put into words why being told to shut up and sit down hurts more than it should as a transmasc:

For those of us raised as girls, we were told to sit down, shut up, and look pretty. Even if someone wasn’t specifically told that, it was obvious that it was being pushed by the people, media, and social norms around us.

So when we as transmascs and trans men are told /that exact same thing/, to sit down and shut up because someone “more important” is talking, it reminds us of how we were treated when we were little girls or when we were seen as little girls.

And the “look pretty” part doesn’t get left out either. The ratio I’ve seen of “shut up and sit down” in the same sentence as something referring to our genitals (or the genitals they expect us to have) is nearly 1:1.

We have to walk on eggshells constantly. We are either seen as confused and stupid little girls or scary and privileged cis men. I’ve seen countless posts saying something along the lines of “take away the trans part from trans men and it all makes sense” which is ridiculous, obviously. We are trans.

When we step outside that perfect model of either the stereotypical 14 year old with fluffy hair and a high pitched voice or the stereotypical cis man with all the power in the world, we are critiqued at best and abused at worst. When we fit into those stereotypes, we are critiqued at best and abused at worst.

We are treated like dress up dolls that are just a bit broken. We can’t be good enough for everyone, let alone anyone. People put their own perceptions of us above our experiences and then stick their fingers in their ears when we try to tell them that maybe we’re worth listening to.

We are already told subconsciously to sit down, shut up, and look pretty by society and your typical transphobes. Being told this by your own community feels like a knife in the back.

[gaydiation-poisoning]

I'm gonna be so real some of y'all think you can't be trans if you were born with a vagina

[fagaholichog]

If you hate Trans men because they're men it does not matter if you "hate all men". If you wouldn't hate us if we didn't transition you're a transphobe. If you hate us because of how we're transitioning you're a transphobe. You're just a transphobe. You're a transphobe. What you're doing is transphobia.

If you insult Trans men with misogynistic language you're a transphobe and misogynist. You would call a cis men a whiny cunt would you? Or a birthday boy? You're not actually "treating us as men" , you don't see us as men. You're just a misogynistic transphobe. You need to eat shit and die. It's pathetic and even more so when it comes from other trans people. How brainrotted can you be??