the way he immediately got in her face to praise her, then holds her in excitement later in the scene...no wonder poor Jenny thought they were together.
one of the things I like about the Big Finish audios is how it blatantly disregards the "no nonsense" thing. like, what do you mean River immediately clocked that Ten missed Donna and her being gone is what made him so reckless? no man good enough for my Donna? the only happy ending for Donna is if it's with the Doctor? Ten/Donna fake marriage? the unnecessary smooches? Donna calling him the love of her life then realizing in real time that he actually is?
If I can just be really mean about r0se, tenr0se, and tent00r0se for a minute
Do NOT click through if you don't wanna see that, kay?
And I'm a DoctorDonna shipper, so if that bothers you, also don't click through.
Even RTD, the ultimate R0se glazer who completely ruined her character by his complete inability to hold her accountable for anything or let her change and grow, said that his ending with giving her a photocopied ten was forced (and utterly stupid. my words.)
And after he made up that stupid forced scenario to try and make his otp canon (or something. Because honestly the fact that it was treated as interchangeable that R0se would go with a clone who is catered to her whims is what truly and completely made the ship unsalvageable to me) RTD literally came back all these years later and made the actual, real Doctor, who is not convolutedly made human, come home to Donna and heal and deal with his trauma.
And this is not saying RTD is word of god, quite the opposite that man is horrible, but EVEN he knows his original ending was absolute buns tenr0se copium.
Like, RTD is the ultimate vapid tenr0se shipper and even he pretty much redid his stupid tent00r0se ending except its Donna and the real actual Doctor. So. R0se didn't love him for who he actually is, and the idea of a version of the tennant doctor healing with her is stupid because they're a horrible match. And she's actually awful to and for him, Because she's awful to everyone and never once has her come to Jesus moment because RTD is incapable of treating her like any other character.
I'm saying all this because I just saw somebody say "tent00 is the best tennant doctor, that's why he got R0se!1! ☺️"
...Like two posts away from talking about how fourteen came home to Donna to heal???????? And that was the true ending where he could heal, UNLIKE what originally happened????????????
And idc that it was talking about actual ten and not tent00, because there's just no way that tent00 could actually heal with Rose.
This is why it's so unbelievably stupid to me when people talk about the doctor and donna being platonic soulmates (soulmates!!!) but "STRICTLY PLATONIC AND IF YOU THINK ANYTHING ELSE YOURE STUPID AND EVIL AND HATE PLATONIC RELATIONSHIPS #MYPLATONIC #YOUHATEPLATONICLOVEIFYOUSHIPTHEMLOL" because 9/10 times they're actually tenr0se shippers who would take the doctor away from Donna FOREVER without a second thought to how they are meant to be together forever (in whatever sense) so that they can SHIP HIM ROMANTICALLY WITH SOMEONE ELSE.
DO NOT come to me and talk about "platonic soulmates why do you ship those two why can't you appreciate their m/f friendship 😞" when in two seconds you can turn around and break them apart because you want to ship him romantically with someone else. When you JUST SAID that the doctor and donna are soulmates. platonic soulmates. but you think it's better for him to have a romantic relationship with someone else than to stay with his platonic soulmate. okay.
Like sorry, but they ARE soulmates. We JUST agreed on that. Romantic or platonic or BOTH (what I think). The doctor and donna are SOULMATES. And you're coming after me for wanting them to be together forever as whatever kind of soulmates when you would call them platonic soulmates but then break them apart without a second thought to ship him with someone else romantically?
And yes, I know that this is a scenario I've invented in my head and there's not some huge conspiracy to break up my otp. And probably no one actually thinks like this, nuance. I highly doubt this is what the person who I am frustrated with meant to convey. I'm JUST FRUSTRATED. IT'S FRUSTRATING.
Like in the same breath saying that what he needed to heal was to come home to his Donna and then saying R0SE is the best possible outcome for him because Romance. And people don't get upset over that but people squick themselves into oblivion about me liking doctordonna as romantic partners as well as soulmates. Argh.
Like... just don't.
The tent00 ending is SO STUPID that even RTD redid an actual happy ending for his favorite Doctor (which is a whole other thing) because the only happy ending for him is with Donna. And let's all be completely real here, there's no place for R0se T. in that happy ending because she is far too jealous to EVER be okay with what the Doctor and Donna have, and all she has ever wanted out of the Tennant Doctor is romance. It is so antithetical to the idea of platonic love being as valuable as romantic love to think that the weak sauce forced tent00r0se ending is in any way equivalent to the fourteendonna ending, and Rose as a character is prettymuch antithetical to that too since ever since he regenerated into ten the only thing she cared about was getting his romantic love. no regard for all of the love that happens outside of a romantic relationship, no love shown by valuing and respecting his feelings, she only cares about him giving her romance, otherwise he's worthless to her.
the less someone knows about doctor who, the funnier they are to watch it with.
my older brother saw donna appear in the tardis and asked if "that was how he got them" as in, if that was the companion distrubution system dropping a companion off for the doctor. A+ no notes on that observation
really truly fucked up that for the entire time donna travels with him ten is waiting for her to leave. certain that she'll give it up one of these days, settle down and never run with him again. and it's not until they entwine minds, until she starts burning up, until she tells him brokenly i was going to stay with you forever. the doctordonna. it's not until he raises his hand to take it away from her that he believes it. i know.
Doctor Who season 4 is so delightful because you can tell that The Doctor, on occasion, straight up forgets that he's sad and burned because he's busy being in a sci-fi buddy comedy. And then something will remind him and he'll be like oh! I'm sad and burdened! And Donnas almost always there to be like 'hi sad and burdened. I'm Donna' and he has a completely proportional reaction like 'i would die a thousand deaths for you'.
Donna basically went overprotective after he confessed everything that happened and all the people he lost since she left :) just in case you wondered. Forced to nap, eat in pyjamas and drink hot cocoa with a soft blanket
yknow donna was introduced as a character who who thought the most romantic thing to ever happen to her was a guy bringing her a coffee at work and the doctor remembered her exact coffee order after billions of years. which could mean nothing.
60th specials where everything is the exact same but when fourteen is like “my brother in law” @ Shaun Donna busts out laughing and then is like “…you know we’re divorced right???” and the Doctor is just like
Extra special bonus points if Donna explains she always tells people they’re still together to discourage ppl making advances on her bc she realized when she was with Shaun she just had this feeling of something missing that made being with someone feel hollow
”what are we” when u tore soul in half so you could be with her and she divorced her husband when she couldn’t even remember you but she just knew something was missing and it turns out it was you
That’s such a good idea and you know Fourteen would be trying to stop himself from blurting out his feelings then and there. He’d be down on one knee proposing before Donna had finished explaining she and Shaun had decided they were better as coparents years ago.
I am extremely amused by the idea of the Doctor trying to gas himself up to deal with the fact that Donna has a husband and then getting lore-bombed with the fact that they're divorced AND it's because subconsciously Shaun couldn't replace HIM 😂
Yeah I think that Fourteen finding out Donna and Shaun are divorced when he says that Shaun’s like a brother in law would make a great fic.
I have a one shot I’m working on where she tells him after Wild Blue Yonder (but before they return to London and see Wilf) that she and Shaun are divorced and just didn’t want Sylvia to find out yet.
Donna even tells the Doctor one of the reasons she didn’t tell him was because she knew he’d have ended up blurting it out to Sylvia at the worst possible moment.
Every time I stumble upon this screencap, I think of all the utter CLOWNS who went like "Catherine Tate is a comedian, she can't do drama" when she was announced as the new companion, because look at the absolute despair, exhaustion and realisation that shit is fucked on her face contained in that SINGLE SCREENCAP???
GOD she's brilliant
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