Sheepdoge Sidebloge

This started as a ZDK12 theory sideblog, then went through a few passing phases as a (cringeworthy) reblog dump. Now, it's basically an Undertale theory and datamining sideblog. I'm more interested in speculation about Chara and their role in the game I am about Gaster stuff, so expect a lot of Big Time Fucko.

[jaronofthebored]

entirely unfounded probably stupid thought I just had

you know how the CORE can be reshuffled? that seems bizarre. why and how would this geothermal energy center need to be unmappable. especially considering the ice conveyer seems to link all the way back to snowdin, wouldn't that pose a problem? It's like rather than machines moving the rooms, it moves the actual physical space... and what if Gaster... got stuck between rooms. Like the Mystery Man in Waterfall, like the Forgotten Man in Deltarune. Falling into the CORE as a machine would just burn him, but falling into its geometry might just shatter him.

It is 2am so don't take me to the letter here but like. food for thought

[doge-w-a-bloge]

I forget. Is that nice Em lady streamer going to see gerson tonight. I can't wait for her to see gerson

[deepfrieddeltarunememes]

god it's hard to tell because of the lighting here, but her expression when she thanks Kris for walking her home is so loving it hurts.

I don't want to hear a single thing about how she's replacing or abandoning Kris, you look at her face and tell me she has any intention of ever doing that.

[deepfrieddeltarunememes]

and if you look at the gif it's like she was about to shut the door but caught sight of Kris's facial expression and took an extra moment to make sure they knew how much she still cares about them...

[deepfrieddeltarunememes]

every day I have to scroll past theories saying Susie is abandoning reality or whatever when the chapter literally ends with her saying this

[deepfrieddeltarunememes]

Plus you have to consider why she's telling Kris that and I think it's because she knows Kris made the Dark Fountain

but instead of thinking about it as part of some greater plan, she probably thinks it was just to spend time with her and have an "adventure".

and it's in, like, the most gentle possible way. She doesn't even directly blame them for it even though it's their fault, just says "we" can't mess up. and reiterates how much she has enjoyed their adventures. and thanks them for walking her home.

but the whole conversation reads like she's trying to bring Kris back to the reality that people are in real danger now.

[deepfrieddeltarunememes]

plus Susie has also been in the position of making a dark fountain to spend time with someone, so it'd be pretty natural for her to assume Kris did it to spend more Kris-and-Susie time with her

I don't think Susie is in denial about Kris making those fountains, I think she's just trying to get them to stop without directly calling them out because she knows how bad it feels to "screw up" like that and when she did it, Kris never called her out, just fought by her side.

she probably just thinks they both "messed up" for the same reasons

[doge-w-a-bloge]

You know, it's kind of neat that Pink is going to be the first "recruitable" Shadow Crystal boss?

Jevil and Spamton are implied to be "alive" as gear (outside of Weird Route, at least), but their stories are kind of officially over - Spamton's made one completely optional appearance as a person with dialogue from Chapters 3-5. They're done. They're over.

The Knight, as the story's main antagonist RN, is obviously Fucking Not Recruitable.

Gerson, for specific lore reasons, cannot come to Castle Town, even though Susie would love to bring him there.

Meanwhile, Pink is the only major Chapter 5 character we can take to Castle Town; though it's for slightly different reasons, the Seven Flowers are in a similar boat to Gerson.

I wonder what it'll be like to talk to her once she moves in.

[ciderjacks]

Haha hey fun nod to true labs Toby! It doesn’t imply anything horrifying or insane right?

[mettaton]

so few people mention the qwop reference in chapter 2...

shes qwopping...

Kris Do You Remember How We Used To Run

[madrice]

Showing mom their favorite Warrior Cats MAP

[echoriptera]

The thing I love about blues design in deltarune is that they made a black-coded feminine man, which already doesn’t happen a lot, but also was completely unapologetic and unhesitant in giving him black and racialized and masculine features, and that it doesn’t take away from his femininity and beauty. he’s got a strong jaw, he’s got locs, he’s got broad shoulders, he’s got thick eyebrows, and he’s still drop dead gorgeous and is treated as such and is never made to seem otherwise

so often feminine men are solely depicted as white or white passing, and are stripped of their more masculine features in order to seem beautiful or feminine, or their masculinity are at odds with their femininity, which can perpetuate traditional gender roles, racism, and even transphobia and transmisogyny.

in reality femininity and masculinity aren’t competing opposites, but go hand and hand, and same is the case with blackness and beauty

blue isn’t beautiful in spite of his blackness or masculinity, but rather because of it, and I think that’s delightful

[tennas-t-v-time]

"mettatenna as a ship ignores tenna autonomy, if we ignore chapter 5! anyways. im going to ignore tennas autonomy by keeping him somewhere hes unhappy when hes repeatedly asking me to fulfill Susies promise of finding him a home. certainly he just doesnt know whats best for him!!!!!!!!!!"

[glowingsnows]

is it controversial to say that everything we learned about asgore in chapter 5 pretty much cements my belief that tenna isn't actually that much of an asgore parallel like many believed. i think the reveal that asgore is actually not at all interested in indulging in the fantasy world that was being catered to him and instead is only interested in whatever information that the flower king dark world could give him to further his investigations (compared to tenna, aka John Escapism aka mr. "do not look past that area in my game there's actually nothing there nope there's totally no leftovers from the original game there" aka the guy who traps the fun gang into playing his games to prevent them from moving forward when they found out what tenna had actually been up to behind the scenes) solidifies this for me personally

[glowingsnows]

i am shaking hands with everyone saying that he's actually a lot more like toriel. you all get it.

[tennas-t-v-time]

I think just like how it doesnt matter which deltarune character is your favorite susie is the best one, it doesnt matter which flower is your favorite because blue is the best one.

[tennas-t-v-time]

Hey is there a reason youre talking about a feminine black man like this despite him barely even having any negative traits and being on the protagonists side and being one of the most likable characters? Hey is there a reason you’re unnecessarily rude about a black man?

[tennas-t-v-time]

[ivipl1]

hear no evil \\ speak no evil \\ see no evil

[transgirlralsei]

#thinking...

[deepfrieddeltarunememes]

every day I have to scroll past theories saying Susie is abandoning reality or whatever when the chapter literally ends with her saying this

[deepfrieddeltarunememes]

Plus you have to consider why she's telling Kris that and I think it's because she knows Kris made the Dark Fountain

but instead of thinking about it as part of some greater plan, she probably thinks it was just to spend time with her and have an "adventure".

and it's in, like, the most gentle possible way. She doesn't even directly blame them for it even though it's their fault, just says "we" can't mess up. and reiterates how much she has enjoyed their adventures. and thanks them for walking her home.

but the whole conversation reads like she's trying to bring Kris back to the reality that people are in real danger now.

[doge-w-a-bloge]

#like on the one hand maybe it's kind of special that your best friend is willing to make a dangerous dark fountain #just to spend time with you#but holy shit they just got their own dad kidnapped #real people are in real danger and it can't just be their adventures anymore #and they gotta stop #and maybe the thinking is - they weren't expecting us to not be able to stop the knight #but holy shit they just got their dad kidnapped #and if she's been thinking about them making the chapter 5 dark fountain she probably figured out they made the chapter 3 dark fountain

[ballgame]

I don't think I've seen this shared here yet (newsletter excerpt for context ↓)

[zomb-beth]

Pre edited photos of my pink cosplay! First time actually making a cosplay from scratch so I'm kinda proud/nervous about it 😊