Sheepdoge Sidebloge

This started as a ZDK12 theory sideblog, then went through a few passing phases as a (cringeworthy) reblog dump. Now, it's basically an Undertale theory and datamining sideblog. I'm more interested in speculation about Chara and their role in the game I am about Gaster stuff, so expect a lot of Big Time Fucko.

[misanthropicgardener]

Ha Ha Okay

[doge-w-a-bloge]

#i know absolutely nothing about live a live and i think this is my first time hearing about it#so this is from not knowing anything about that and only knowing deltarune#but this does inspire haha uh oh feelings

I've got some old posts about Oersted on hand from the pre-Deltarune days (talking about Chara), if you're interested.

This one from @claire-bird (the preview doesn't work well so I'm using an except to represent it):

the big twist of livealive is that, the shining knight oersted, through betrayal and manipulation from everyone he thought was a friend, gradually begins to despise humans. he, who once sang their virtues from the highest mountains, writes them all off as selfish trash. he thinks of them as lower than the demons they fought against, and through sheer force of his hate, throws away his own humanity. he becomes, in his own words, the king of demons, not even deserving of a human’s name. he renames himself odio, after the latin word for hatred.

And this one from @saveloadreset:

Megalovania and Chara/Odio

A Post About Undertale And Live A Live Parallels  I’ll begin by walking through some of the super basic, surface-level connections between t

[misanthropicgardener]

I don't see this talked about as much, but it is interesting that initially the save file is in kris' name. i also wonder what the meaning of lv in deltarune is since it increases per chapter so it seems different than undertale

[misanthropicgardener]

I love her so much

[misanthropicgardener]

i still think this for sure is implying something maybe

[misanthropicgardener]

Which could mean nothing

[misanthropicgardener]

Still so so obsessed with how this is phrased, something about the exclamation mark especially makes it feels so incredibly awful

[doge-w-a-bloge]

#i sincerely feel like the exclamation mark is carrying so much weight here#the phrase by itself is already very uncomfortable alongside the image but it really does add to it

[misanthropicgardener]

sprite of all time

[misanthropicgardener]

another contender for sprite of all time

[misanthropicgardener]

again

[misanthropicgardener]

ever-growing collection

[misanthropicgardener]

imagery and whatnot that is profoundly concerning to me as a dreemurr siblings scholar

[doge-w-a-bloge]

#undertale is a prototype for deltarune. technically. the soul fusion plot aspect is very significant in it#it's fine. and nothing goes wrong ever

[misanthropicgardener]

"good keep smiling" is still so crazy like what the hell lmao

[doge-w-a-bloge]

I'm in a weird position, as a non-SAM ace, where I simultaneously get annoyed when I see someone imply that there's no possible platonic explanation for susie and kris' bond. (i think even the implied kris jealousy has a platonic explanation. have you ever been an ace teen and realized that nobody will ever permantly love you as much as you love them because everyone you ever become BFFs with will fall in love and forget about you because friendship is "less than" romantic love.) and also annoyed when people act like krusie shipping is inherently misogynistic because it's not a lesbian relationship like suselle, or even just generally acting like it's too "het" (nonbinary as "man lite") and not really queer at all. or alternately saying that actually krusie is actually just as good as suselle because its basically lesbian yuri (nonbinary as "woman lite")

(i know that nonbinary people can identify their relationships as lesbian or gay or straight if they please. but i just get this weird feeling that people feel the need to rebinarize kris to prove that "this ship i dont like is icky het" or "this ship i do like is awesome lesbian" when like. any relationship with a nonbinary person is by baseline already queer, just like t4t is queer even if it's "straight" between a trans man and a trans woman.)

i feel like you see some form of this pattern with basically any fucking kris-containing ship and im not a shipper (again, deeply sexless and romanceless being) but it does. feel weird.

[mihych]

Interpretations

[transparent-undertale]

hair (and hat) styles

[deepfrieddeltarunememes]

Kris actually does have an interaction if you move the shears over them. with Susie or Ralsei you'll get one of these haircut sprites, but for Kris:

they'll just display their hurt animation, but they don't lose hp, so apparently they're just blocking the player from cutting their hair.

[hellochamsae]

checks out. after all, they have such an image to maintain with their hair that they hold down their bangs during their jump animations

[deepfrieddeltarunememes]

I guess they don't want to risk us cutting their bangs and everyone seeing their eyes...window to the soul and everything...

[frothfloaters]

❤️ battle box

alternate versions

[cornylove]

[doge-w-a-bloge]

am i a bad person for having enjoyed chapter 5

[blackhole-ntp]

Seen some people finish Deltarune Chapter 5 with the genuine opinion that they didn't like it because they found Flowery fake, showy and annoying. Which, yes, but also no, this is a total surface level misunderstanding of his character.

By the end of the chapter you're meant to understand that Flowery is fake and showy in the same way that a twelve year old's first sparkledog oc is cringe. Which is to say, not at all; Flowery is totally sincere about all of his bullshit which makes it wrap around into being genuinely cool as hell.

Nothing is stronger than a flower's dream!!! Etc

[nuclearbandage]