Dorkgate

This tumblr compiles a series of private messages between me, Hittosama, and Dorkinhighheels / Clownyprincess / PrincessBee / Elise Archer after I dared send her a review on one of her TMNT fanfic. While she played the victim in public, I lost friends, was shortly harassed by "anonymous" and have been called names for expressing, in private, my thoughts on her work. I decided to show the whole story, because some people are only nice when it serves them. Read it from the beginning

[thisisnotsincerity]

And another victim gets added to the list.

The person she’s fighting this time, though!  Asexual queer woman with childhood PTSD, a history of abuse, chronic bone illnesses.  That’s the person she’s calling a whorephobic misogynist abuser.  Like… seriously??

How many people does Elise get to hurt?

But somehow SHE’S always the “victim”.

You’re not allowed to disagree with her royal Quincess.  You must then be lied about, deliberately misrepresented, and labeled a stalking, misogynist, whorephobe.  It’s never her.  The 35 year-old woman constantly fighting with people much younger than her.  The woman who has told teenagers that they made her physically ill because they disagreed with her.  Teenagers whom she told to “die in a fire”.  But that only counts as a legitimate death threat when it’s directed at her.  It never matters if the person she’s fighting with has their own mental illness, history of rape,molestation, and/or abuse.  Those are only acceptable factors of her own response and actions.  Never yours.

How dare you.

How many people who now dislike, if not outright hate her, were once friends and followers who finally realized she’s full of shit?

[dorkgate]

[suffragettekitty-deactivated201]

dorkgate:

And now, the links.

http://iamheretospillthattea.tumblr.com/ has several tags dedicated to Dorkinhighheels/Princess Clowny/Elise Archer. She has known the Dork since a very long time and has witnessed several case of stalking/abuse phases. The more interesting tag is Elise Archer and it will…

Want my whole series of manipulative abuser texts from her? I got emails, online slander, stats showing cyber stalking by her & court documents to boot. get in touch & my dropbox is yr dropbox bb.

Here are our texts: 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/36zte1ww4ki6pkz/AADkUhT8CazzuUpzGMzcUHEAa?dl=0

Re: the IQ thing. I’m autistic & have a savant profile. I self-test all over the map depending on how much the test in question caters to my talents (I’m highly hyperlexic, severely dyscalculic & have major spatial problems).

At the time of my conversation with Elise, I was self-testing.at 143 (which is genius), probably on tests that were more word-logic oriented, which I am in the top 2% of my state with regard to (or was when I took the LSAT many years ago).

However, my other abilities are at early primary school child level, tops. The last internet IQ test I self-administered contained mostly numerical & spatial, in which I am deeply learning disabled, & my score was accordingly 67 or so.

[thisisnotsincerity]

Yes, yes, well done. Pats on backs, and creepy grinning for victory. Good show.

Nope. Lies. This was what turned an awkward aquaintance ugly.

Showing delusion by diagnosing Elise as a narcissistic sociopath? Well, let’s go see what a narcissistic…

[suffragettekitty-deactivated201]

Back to her Saynotostalkers Gofundme

Actually the correct term is psychopath. I got it wrong originally & I didn't realise Elise was that til she told me indirectly that she was. Psychopaths like to drop little hints of what they are, see. Another one I was involved with told me that, & I read literature confirming this thereafter.

I would like also to add that the facts of this are complicated but that Elise & the red-headed woman in the photograph, who bears a sisterly or other close relative type resemblance to Elise, deliberately gaslit me into a state of mortal terror & did so in such a way that my legal efforts to stop it were doomed to fail. 

Due to their physical resemblance & similar writing styles & smear campaign tactics, I had thought that the red-headed woman, "MM" , was Elise using an alt account to try & disguise her identity & that she was using old photos of herself & her mother. In fact "MM' was a separate person. The violent threats "MM" made against me (which I have screencapped &.dropboxed here: 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/znfwxq9a79p461h/AABUhZ65aRfWKPihmCCdd5Rka?dl=0 

)....entitled me to an intervention order against her. Thinking "MM" was Elise & having Elise's details by dint of the latter's placement of her acting resume online publicly (I found it by googling Elise's email address), I subpoenaed Elise seeking one.

However, Elise never gets her hands dirty. The only violent threats she made to me were by implication which could fairly be interpreted in innocuous ways as well, though after all of Elise's abuse of me, I did not interpret them thusly, as she well knew I would not. Only "MM", being unbeknownst to me at the time, not Elise, but rather a different person bearing a strong familial resemblance to her, made direct violent threats, as well as expressing a desire to murder me, as shown in the caps. These things entitled me to legal relief.

However, Elise & "MM" showed up to court together & I did not have "MM"'s details by which to seek a restraining order on her, so could not proceed that day. Besides, just seeing them triggered me more than i've ever been triggered in my life, I think. I was a sobbing mess of utter panic & could not have proceeded or given oral evidence in that state in any event.

Additionally, Elise brought a cross-order against me that was perjured. I produced abundant evidence of the perjury & warned Elise's lawyer that i would seek to have the matter referred for prosecution if Elise persisted with her perjured application, which.in the end she did not.

Thankyou, thisisnotsincerity. This is an excellent post.

[dorkgate]

(Post from LJ)

And now, the links. http://iamheretospillthattea.tumblr.com/ has several tags dedicated to Dorkinhighheels/Princess Clowny/Elise Archer. She has known the Dork since a very long time and has witnessed several case of stalking/abuse phases. The more interesting tag is Elise Archer and it will take you a lot of time to go through it. If you have only one post to read, it's this one: "Like the baboon in the Lion King said...". Another interesting post to read: "Ok, it's done", which narrates how manipulative the Dork can be. This whole tumblr, thisisnotsincerity, is dedicated to the Dork's scams. Worth the time. Of course I could link all the posts who referred one way or another to our little argument but those tend to dispear, strangely. Again, I'm not doing this out of jealousy or revenge or whatever. I didn't intend to post all of that publically until yesterday, when her bullshit and lies just got under my skin one last time. I'll get in trouble for that. The whole TMNT fandom might shit on me for the next year or more, I don't care. People should know how manipulative and immature Dorkinhighheels is. She wants attention. Look at all her posts "i'm writing this but I know nobody will never read it hi hi" with all the following "omg of course i'll read!!!" comments. She's all love and friendly in the front but you have now proof in this correspondance we had that she's not like that. If you disagree with her, she'll attack you, she'll come again and again, she'll dig up whatever she can on you, she'll accuse you of being misogynist (that's her favorite apparently). Honestly, what "saved" me was that I can read clearly into her manipulative game. That, plus she has nothing to dig up on me, mostly because of the language barriere, and I keep my private life private. Like I said, I'll get a shitton of problems for that and I don't care. 

[dorkgate]

Hitto - February 3rd (private)

Yeah yeah yeah, until next time princess.

[dorkgate]

Dork - February 2nd (private)

Good luck with everything, hitto. I hope you achieve all that you desire and that you are happy.

[dorkgate]

Hitto - February 2nd, 2015 (private)

TL;DR Look, I don't care about your explanations, I wouldn't even believe them if I read them. I don't care about your life, about your activities, about anything related to you, even from a distance. I know you have a desperate need for attention and I will show you no more of that because it's getting ridiculous. Seriously, that wall of text? Even if I hadn't dug up stuff on you, it would have screamed "I'm trying to manipulate you so hard". Too bad, I'm bullshit proof by now. Keep dreaming, Elise, keep living in your perfect fantasy world where you're all mighty and powerful. If you're happy like that, mazel tov!

[dorkgate]

Dork - February 2nd, 2015 (private)

Hi Hitto, I don't blame you for being suspicious, I guess, though I have a very different perspective of what went down between us. In all honesty, as time has passed I have seen how we are quite alike in a lot of ways so I understand why that might be. What I want from you right now? Is to be okay. To not feel like shit, to not be hurting, to not feel unwelcome and unsafe. If that's best achieved for you by me leaving you alone then of course I will. I only answer this now because you asked me an outright question. But I tell you honestly, hitto: my motivation in writing to you was because I truly felt bad to see what you were going through. As for what you think you found via search, well: God a short while ago that would've probably triggered me or sent me into tailspins of anxiety. But the truth is, I never made my identity a secret so I knew it was a possibility. (okay not quite true... I am feeling very anxious about this but not the way I would've been a while ago) I can't make you believe me. And tbh... after the way that has completely manipulated my life for almost two years... I don't have the energy to. If you want to believe it all, you can. You've found a cluster of 4 women, none of whom have ever met me in person, who all live in another country, who are angry at me for rejecting them in various ways (friendship, romance), who draw ridiculous conclusions and extrapolate from what very small amount of information I post about myself online to claim I am lying about anything and everything even though there is absolutely no way any of them can know anything about my personal circumstances. I used to lie about my age hitto - but so what? It was in a silly, self-deprecating way and I've stopped over the last year. I would talk about how I was "21" and then mention remembering watching She Ra when it first aired - it was always obvious I was making a performance of it, of being vain and superficial. Because, as I'm sure you know - that's what I do. I am, as you have noticed, violently insecure and I compensate by putting on a facade of glamour and confidence. I don't like to reveal all the shit I deal with and frequently make a brave face on things. I think you can probably understand that. I am aware of the scope of things they claim I lie about and I''ll point out to you simply: they do not know me in person, they are not witness to my offline life and everything they deduce they do so only from what information I put online. Hardly a complete picture. They do this because it validates their anger at me - and they have been obsessed with me since 2010. And if you actually really look at their stuff, you'll discover a lot of abuse of me for my weight, my looks, my mental illness, my experiences of assault... a whole lot of very ugly stuff. They even posted revenge porn of me once, though quickly removed the evidence when there was a huge outcry (lucky there are screencaps). But, as I said... I can't make you believe me and I'm not inclined to try. I will say they are the main reason I messaged you today: because I wanted to let go of the anger I hold against you, because the anger they hold against me has poisoned them so much and I felt terrified of becoming like that. But anyway. I see now reading back over your message that you're in contact with them so I doubt anything I say will change your mind. Just please don't let them poison you. None of this is worth it. And as for deb... god... I am not the only person she has targeted in the way she has. I can, if you like, point you to multiple incidents of her harassment and stalking of others and all of it in the exact same way she did to me whilst claiming she was the real victim. These other four women have pounced on her story and used it for their own benefit because they feel she makes their petty grudge look more justified. The others are mean losers but deb is evil. Utter evil. And the only reason I don't go more into that right now is because the energy she has sucked out of me the last almost two years is enough. I don't want to give her anymore. I think if you WERE in direct contact with her you would see pretty quickly the way things are, because everyone else has. She is nothing more than a tool to these others. There has been a huge amount of discussion of the lack of ethics these others have shown in exploiting an obviously very unhinged person in their petty grudge. But by herself she has done her best to ruin several people's lives and for no good reason other than romantic rejection. Look further. You'll see the pattern pretty quick. I will point out to you that I've never hidden my name, my blogs, or anything that would've made it impossible for people to find this stuff or impossible for them to find me. And that's because I felt that anyone really looking at the situation would see it quickly for what it is. I was talking to a friend today when I was contemplating messaging you and I mentioned the possibility of this happening and my friend said no... anyone who looks at that situation will see quickly what is really going on so I can only assume you barely scraped the surface in your searchings, or your anger at me is too intense. To be constantly falsely accused of these things, followed about obsessively every space I go into online, have my private life speculated about endlessly by these creeps has been exhausting and demoralising but honestly... much like yourself I am the kind of person who speaks her mind and that pisses people off. And on the internet there are always plenty of losers ready to make a grudge their life's purpose. But I'm sincere. I know I can't convince you of that and since I truly understand what it is like to be very angry and very defensive and very distrusting, I can't blame you for that. I honestly wish I hadn't been so fucked up during the times we first messaged and I could've handled things differently. I'm sorry for that, hitto. It's so tempting to get angry at these other bitches, for fucking me up to begin with and for taking advantage of you now while you are hurting, but I'm just not going to give them that energy anymore. Please stay in the fandom. Your art is honestly amazing. Of course I will leave you alone - I HAD been leaving you alone. Whether you believe me or not... when I see someone going through this... my own experiences make me want bad to reach out. I guess I shouldn't have. I did think about you after a panic attack. You know, I had a feeling you would think that was bullshit... oh well. I knew in writing to you there was 90% chance you would reply as you have but honestly... doing the right thing meant more to me. Yeah, I'm sure you're eyerolling. That's okay. I don't need you to believe me or accept it. I didn't do it for those reasons. And I'm sorry that it clearly upset you more. That 10% chance of smoothing things out... was enough. For me, I want to learn from my mistakes and the mistakes of others. And I meant what I said: you don't deserve to be harassed out of the fandom and it is wrong that was happening. You say you just want me to back off so I don't know... do you think I've been one of the trolls? All I can say is I haven't and I have been 'backed off' all this time since our last correspondence (and before it) and I don't know how to convince you of that any further. And I will continue. I agree the fandom is big enough for both of us. I hope this is enough for you? I reiterate: best of luck to you in everything.

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Hitto - February 2nd, 2015 (private)

Yeah, right, like I’m going to buy that, Elise.I know you’ll find a way or another to turn that message to your advantage, because you’re really good at that, so I’ll be pretty straight forward: I will never believe anything coming from you because you’re a manipulative narcissist in desperate need for attention. I know the kind, my father was like that, and I swear your tantrums and his are the exact sames when you don’t get what you want. You accused me of the most ridiculous things, tried to get under my skin and now you’re all nice and resentful. I have to say I’m a bit disappointed that you think I’m that stupid. Well, if it works on your fans, good for you, but I’m not going to sit there and let you feed me with your bullshit (seriously, you thought about me after a panic attack? Come on, I thought you were better than that with your lies).

Actually I think you need something from me as you keep coming again and again to me, via friends who “pointed you” blog entries or else. Please tell me what it is once and for all, like that we both will be out of each other’s life for good. Be honest, Elise, what do you really want from me? Because I kept my part of the deal so far, you know? Be assured I don’t want anything from you but to back off. The fandom is big enough for us to ignore peacefully each other, don’t you think?

Yes, well, about the whole “I’ve been the target of hate campaigns, stalking and bullying”, I’ll just say that I know how to use a search engine and I’ve found people having the same straight story about you, while your version keep changing. I know about Debb. I’m not in contact with her directly but with some others who confirmed your “techniques” when you encounter someone who doesn’t bow at your feet. I also know you regularly lie on your age and on several other topics of your life, which can only confirm my doubts about your honesty and sincerity in general.

I did not try to publicly humiliate you, Elise, you’re reversing our roles in this story. Again. You brought it up on the public side and I felt the need to defend my opinion (we talked about this several times). If I were to humiliate you publicly, I’d post all I learned about you those past few weeks. I doubt a lot of people would believe me, they’d think it’s just revenge or pure jealousy because of course you’re so above it all, compassionate and nice and whatever, but it would be seen by a lot of people nonetheless, some who will search by themselves and connect the dots.

I didn’t do it so far because I don’t give a shit about your life, Elise, and that’s the sad truth you can’t accept. True, I dug up some stuff about your past activities on the Internet. I had my doubts about your behavior, which reminded me of my father’s so much I had to search, and I found answers. You can fool people and be happy with your crowd of admirers, I don’t care, I won’t even say a word about it, but just leave me the fuck out of it. I don’t wish you anything, you’re good enough to find a way to have everything you want, right?

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Dork - February 2nd, 2015 (private)

Hi Hitto, I was pointed to your blog entries of the last few weeks by someone who thought I would enjoy seeing you feel like shit. But honestly I just felt really bad to see it. I wasn’t going to say anything but I recently woke up and had a panic attack and during it I thought of you and truly just felt so fucking sad for what you were going through. I almost messaged you then but wasn’t really in a right state of mind. Whatever my opinion of your behaviour and attitudes towards other fans, I don’t believe anyone deserves to be harassed and as I’ve been the target of hate campaigns, stalking and bullying I know how utterly dreadful it feels and I can’t stand to see anyone else go through it. It’s awful, I know and I truly feel for you. It’s not right for people to be driven out of fandom or for it feel so awful and unsafe to be in. I hope you understand I felt this way when you went to such effort to publicly humiliate me and this was the source of my immense anger at you. But I am not happy to see you feel the same way. Having been through it - and in a way that goes far beyond what went down between us - I would never wish it on anyone. So I hope that the people who give you a hard time will get a fucking life and leave you alone and I hope that you can regain some joy in fandom and feel confident to post and interact again. I know from cold experience people who do this shit are only compensating for their own miserable, pathetic lives and I guarantee you that’s what’s happening here.

Best of luck with your writing, your art and whatever else.

[dorkgate]

Hitto - November 26 (private)

Well, being an asshole is subjective. My posts were not aimed at you. I do not lurk your blogs. I did not come to you to bother you repetitively and I only answered one question about you, another about turtle D (which is basically a headcanon) on my blog, I did not shove it to your face or whatever. If my stuff appears on your dashboard, I have no control over it, and I will not stop drawing or writing about a subject just because it makes some people uncomfortable (and so far you're the only one who did complain to me). So we're good. Bye.

[dorkgate]

Dork - November 26 (private)

Honestly, all I want is for you to stop being an asshole. To not make any more public speculation about me. To stop looking at my blogs. To just leave me and the subject of me alone. That is truly all. If you can do that, we're golden.

[dorkgate]

Hitto - November 25 (private)

I have no idea how to address you anymore. I will keep repeating myself over and over again on the same theme, "I don't care about your magic sex and I never, ever, said people had to write realistic sex in fanfiction". I do have a twisted sense of humor, as does a part of the fandom, and we make jokes between us. It is not aimed at you, the Raphril shippers or anybody else we don't like. I told you I'm the "do what you want" kind of person. I don't give a shit about you or your work. But, when a question is addressed to me, I answer. If in the future somebody asks me about realistic sex in the TMNT universe, I'll give them my point of view, headcanons or metas. If it can inspire someone or satisfy one's curiosity, that's fine. All my posts are not, I repeat, ARE NOT MADE WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF HURTING YOU. I didn't think about you in weeks. If you can't hear that, it's fine, but we have nothing more to say. One thing though, about my "resent of success other fans get for writing those genres". Once again, you talk without knowledge. I've been into fanfics for more than 15 years but I only started to write in English recently because it's not my native language and it's frankly hard for me. I've written over 60 fanfics in the Neon Genesis Evangelion fandom, Rurouni Kenshin, Angel Sanctuary, Harry Potter, Gundam Wing, Pokémon, Mushishi, Naruto, District 9 and TMNT fandoms (and I'm not talking about all the prompts and drabbles, because I wrote on more than 40 fandoms for that), plus no less than 5 novels on my own universes, from realistic politics to fantasy. Most of it is lost or unpublished because it's old or it's still work in progress, and I know it may be surprising to you but most of my work contains romance. Heck, most of my Naruto one shots are love stories! And I use romance as a way to complicate the plot in longer stories. Do you really think that my primary goal as a writer is just to be acclaimed? Aren't you talking about yourself when you speak about success? I don't seek success, therefore I cannot be jealous of some fanfic author. I write mostly for myself, that's why I take my time and I don't care much about publishing. I would add that fanfic is not a competition, not to me. Okay, fine, I'm obsessed and angry and resentful and jealous, all you want darling. But what about you? What do you really want from me, exactly? Excuses? If it's that simple: I'm sorry I hurt you with my words, it wasn't my intention. But really, I'm curious. You obviously had something on your chest when you came to me yesterday so go on, spit it out once and for all. What do you want from me?

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Dork - November 25 (private)

SIGH. Yes, you ARE a hypocrite and you are demonstrating it right here. It was YOU who razed me to the ground for unrealistic sex as your INTRODUCTION to me. My insistence that I can write anything I like was in no way saying your opinion was invalid... it was me asserting that mine IS. I cannot believe you would interpret me defending my choice to write fanfic a certain way in response to your ATTACK (yes, that's what it was) as a claim your choices are wrong. You wanna write hyper realistic sex, have at it! I don't give a fuck. I DO give a fuck that you gotta try and make the fandom unpleasant for everyone else who doesn't agree with you. You were SO DAMN INSISTENT that sex must be written the "realistic" way you specified that I did get defensive but I never anywhere even hinted you couldn't write it the way you wanted... just that you should back the fuck off those of us who didn't care to do it that way. We're still arguing because you're the one who set out to "prove" your opinion is the only right one with your petty art and constant posts about the technicalities of sex. No. You can't let it go. I'm responding to your inability to let it go. You get how that works? I was happy blocking you and ignoring you. I never mentioned it again. You were the one who had to constantly make it a theme on your blog. And when you pontificated about something you didn't have actual experience of and I did as a pointed underhand attack... that's when this "dialogue" started. I say again: if the review had been actual concrit relevant to what I was writing, then I would've accepted it. I don't care that you don't like my characterisation or think I'm repetitious. I can hear that and take it on, accept it or stand firm by my convictions if I believe in them. But your ridiculous and YES OBVIOUSLY ANGRY AND RESENTFUL fixation on the way I write sex was what upset me because it was so utterly pointless to the kind of stories I write - something you even acknowledged yourself. I have made that clear to you many times over. It's in the interest of your vendetta to pretend I just can't hack the crit and to disregard the factors I specify to you so you can convince yourself this is about something bigger, but it's not. I think the way you carry on with your hatred for magic sex and the romance genre is ridiculous and tbh I think you do it because those genres have large readerships and your work doesn't and you resent the success other fans get for writing those genres. And I'm not going to rise to the bait you continue to throw at me. I already said I had a look at your blog last night so yes, I read the anon reviews and no, I did not write them though if it makes you happy to think that I did... then go right ahead, tbqh. I've never claimed not to be insecure. Quite the opposite. The difference is I don't have to be mean to others in order to manage it. You like to be nasty and then excuse yourself by crapping on about how you just "speak your mind" and are "honest" but the truth is... you're just mean.

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Hitto - November 25 (private)

So, to you, giving you my opinion on your fanfic was aggressive? You think I did it purposely to make you feel bad or to hurt you? You don't get it, really. I wrote my honest opinion but there wasn't mean intention behind it. It's a review, a comment, and nowhere it is said that reviews have to be all love. You asked for your readers' opinion, I delivered. You should have asked for "good and positive reviews only" back then, to make it clear you can't stand opinions different than yours. And now I'm hypocrite, fantastic. I'm as tired of this shit as you, I think. And I now know for sure you're hermetic to sarcasm. Yes, you argued I wasn't entitled to my own headcanons! Every single time you talked about realistic sex VS romantic sex, you did! It was all very judgmental because "fanfic is magic". I took it as "and your point of view is not valid" with your insistence, whereas I'm totally fine with people writing magic sex even if it's not my preference and I say so. You have a problem with realistic sex, fine, okay, I don't like magic sex, very well, we both said that it was two different worlds and they could cohabit so why on Earth are we still arguing? For fuck sake's, I'm the one who can't let it go? Yeah, right. Oh you're so above everyone else! You won't criticize Tcest because it might hurt someone? That's so kind of yours, really! I'll recommend your for the Peace Nobel Prize, that's for sure! And I'll be sacred Evil Overlord, huh? Because I like to destroy everybody's hope, obviously. What's wrong with expression my opinion? I never say "hey I've got the Truth, those who don't think like me are idiots". I say what I have to say and if someone has a counterargument, well we can discuss it. That's how things work, how ideas change! My own insecurities, yeah, right. Look yourself in a mirror, would you? Don't look at the surface but search deeper, it might help. You're insecure about your fanwork, that's fine, we all have doubt, me more than you I'll bet (because, heck, you think it's easy for me to write in English?), but that doesn't mean you have to bark at every person who gives you an honest opinion that isn't like yours. Oh so you did read (or write, hmm?) those anon reviews! Well no, I did agree on some points of the critics but since they were just for the sake of throwing shit after our argument, I didn't pay a lot of attention to it. They were written under anger influence and someone angry doesn't have all its head in the game.

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Dork - November 25 (private)

Also, SERIOUSLY, you think your opinion is the only valid one. You can dole out any shit you like and it's objectively right but people give you their thoughts on your work and it's just weak justification ad nauseum for why they're totally wrong in every! single! way! Insert cliche about getting out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat, etc.

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Dork - November 25 (private)

Eyeroll. Okay, girl. You're sure got some nerve throwing accusations of aggressive around, let's just say that. But hypocrisy is pretty much your standard mode of operation. Even now you're throwing out so much ad hominen hoping to bait me. Whatevs. I have never argued you're not entitled to your own headcanons. You're the one who makes trouble for others objecting to what they do and acting superior about it. That's my whole point. Everyone else let's live, but you gotta make it a thing. I wouldn't make nasty about tcest though you see - making the vulnerable young people who populate fandom feel bad about themselves is your game, not mine. Again, my point... You gotta play mean. Other people make the choice not to, regardless of what they think. Again, I say, there are ways to speak your mind without shitting all over others, but I guess you need to do that to compensate for your own insecurity. You're done. Whoopy-do for you. Let's hope you mean it this time.