THIS BLOG IS DISCONTINUED

hey there, i haven't been posting for quite a while now so i think i should discontinue this blog already since i'm not really interested in homestuck anymore. i'll still keep this mostly for archival purpose. main: https://www.tumblr.com/hektornexus

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THIS BLOG HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED.

hey there, i haven't been posting in this blog for quite a while and i am really not that much interested in homestuck anymore. for people that still have questions about classpecting you can ask me on DMs at my main and i'll answer you, just don't count that much on it since i don't use tumblr as often anymore.

i'll still keep this up for archiving purposes but i won't be answering any more asks around here. i greatly appreaciate the attention people gave to my posts and i'm happy to know other people like my classpecting analysis. like i said, if you guys have questions you can try to ask me on my main through DMs, just keep in mind that i'm not that much interested in homestuck neither use tumblr that much anymore, so i'll take longer to answer you.

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Go my Mage of Ragelings!

Oh boy, i'll have a lot of fun explaining Rage with this one.

Mages are Active Classes that always have a supernatural understanding of their Aspect. While you generally don't need to have a Heir that's a natural of their aspect for example, with the Mage they are at least very knowledgeable of it. Their issue is the opposite of Seers, they're normally too close minded with their Aspect and they're either rendered unable or too stubborn to appreciate their opposite.

Rage is the Aspect that deals with Skepticism. While yes a lot of people associate it with Reality it isn't necessarily a thing that defines the Aspect as a whole, since distrust (the word that actually defines Rage) can very well come from lies, pretentions that don't necessarily connect with reality and absurd paranoias as well.

To start off, our Mage would be really knowledgeable or skilled at Rage. Following the common fandom interpretation that Rage represents Reality, our Mage could know everything that's actually real, and they could have a inherent knowledge that they're part of a webcomic, for example. I however think that the Rage Aspect represents a broader idea than that, so here are my examples:

1 - We can have a Mage that's experienced on how they deal with their own Rage, knowing when to use it to benefit themselves and when it's not worth it.

2 - We can have a Mage that always wants to impress everyone by destroying their expectations, trying to be different or even being a contrarian as a whole, and they always know exactly how to succeed at that.

3 - More in line with the fandom interpretation, we could have a Mage that's extremely skeptic and they have an inherent intuition to tell when people are lying.

Now, if you're used to the way i'm organizing my blog, you're probably asking what the heck is the Mage's problem, since we have almost no information of the class at all and the only two characters that have it are not elaborated enough neither had enough singificant screen time? Well, my friend, i've already said it before, and i'll say it again.

Mages are basically reverse Seers in terms of their character arc. While the Seer suffers from having such a loose connection to their Aspect that they risk being corrupted by their Opposite, the Mage is quite literally being restrained by their own main Aspect, rendered unable to enjoy their opposite. Sollux felt so restrained by his and his friends's Destiny (Doom) that he literally forgot to enjoy Life, probably the reason why his pairing with Feferi was done, and Meulin was so focused on her feelings of Kurloz (Heart) that she was rendered unable to come to Mind that her matesprit was manipulating her.

For our Mage of Rage in question, the traits that we gave to them related to Rage might also be the reason that they're too close minded with their Aspect to really know what's going on, to an unhealthy degree.

On example 1, our Mage might be uncomfortable with their nature of being so prone to anger, and that's also the reason why they feel like they're unable to get rid of their anger issues.

On example 2, our Mage can be so attached to the idea of being a unpredictable contrarian that they feel uncomfortable following the common sense, even if that's for their own safety.

On example 3, our Mage will probably be so skeptical of others that they start to feed on their own paranoias, making them distrust EVERYTHING around them, even when there's actually nothing wrong with it.

The solution to those problems are all related to them, similar to the Seer, not let themselves get too engulfed on their own Aspect. They need to appreciate their Opposite a little more, even if that's initially scary for them.

And at last for powers, i believe it's a situation similar to Seers where they need to use their knowledge of their Aspect to harness it in the best way, which means that i basically already described their godtier powers when i talked about what exactly do they know.

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Could you please make a post about a bard of life? (That’s the classpect of one of my favorite ocs :])

Sure! This will be a fun one as well, since Life can be really chaotic and unlawful sometimes, especially for our bard right here

(again, that's the only transparent image i have of a bard of life, thanks ultra clashpects wiki)

Bards are Passive Destroyers of their Aspect. This basically means that, unlike Princes who can destroy their Aspect on their own, our Bard depends on something external to destroy the Aspect for them. Could vary from a simple habit (Gamzee's religions and sopor pies) to someone else doing it for them (Cronus only had his hope destroyed when Kurloz came up to him and talked him out of it).

Life deals with something deeper than just Life itself: It talks about Power. Specifically, the Power to impose your own will and to not be limited by anything, ever. That's why it opposes the idea of Doom, the idea of Impotence, the idea of Obedience. That's why Life players are generally really wealthy, influential and powerful people, and why it also connects to things that give energy to us such as Food.

A Bard of Life would depend on something else to destroy Life for them, making them act more like a Doom player and sharing its motifs. Maybe they come from a really wealthy family, but they're being restricted of using all their fortune because of something else that's limiting it for them (Limitations), maybe their family/friends or themselves made a ruleset for them to follow to make them more socially acceptable (Rules), maybe they're too focused on obeying something or someone to act by themselves (Obedience), maybe they have a fear of the future/death that makes them more responsible of their decisions (Destiny), and many more possibilities.

Sidenote: Acting more accordingly to Doom doesn't necessarily mean our Bard will act all grumpy like Sollux did. Doom is more about Obedience / Impotence than just death and misery all the time, which is why it's the opposite of Life. This is specially true for our Bard right here, since as i will elaborate in the next paragraph, their main Aspect is actually detrimental to themselves and their team.

When writing a Bard the main thing you need to keep track of is that similar to what happens with Mages, their main Aspect is actually detrimental to them and their team in some way and Bards will always try to avoid it sooner or later, even after their "bard crisis". (Gamzee didn't become permanently closed off with Rage when he did his murdering rampage, he just switched all the Hope he had on his religion to focus on bringing Lord English into existence, so much so that he didn't even question himself when Caliborn immediately started shooting him as soon as he got in his way, keeping his blind trust until the end of the comic. A similar but more chaotic cycle happens with Cronus, that's always cycling between becoming ""self aware"" and entering in sudden bursts of rage and right after that going back to Hope because he does a really bad job avoiding Hope lmao)

What does this mean is that Life is detrimental to them in some way, and when their mechanisms for avoiding it get destroyed or inacessible, that's when their negative aspects will come to light. Our Bard could have a tendency to become really abusive given enough Power to them, or maybe they could become so unlawful that they start causing trouble to everyone around them, maybe they quite literally don't enjoy their Life and this results in them being really depressed about it when they're forced to live it, etc. Like i said, the Bard Crisis harms everyone, themselves and others.

My warning about Bards that you've already seen before: Bards aren't completely irredeemable people that once they get caught in a crisis they're a lost cause that should be expelled from their team as soon as possible. A Bard's crisis doesn't last forever, and frankly it's not even the thing you should fear the most about them. What made Gamzee irredeemable wasn't the fact that he had his Rage crisis, what made him unpredictable and untrustworthy was when Lil Cal and Lord English started to confort him (AKA. Destroying his Rage), making him trust (keyword of Hope) more on them than his previous friends. Same goes for our Bard of Life, that will sooner or later recover from this crisis of theirs and will start to look for something else that avoids Life for them. Help them find a healthy and favorable way for them to avoid their Aspect, and you're completely safe.

At last, for Powers they would embody the idea of Destroying Through Life for others. They could phisically degrade things and people by using pathogens (literal Life), similar of what the stand Green Day does in JoJo's Part 5, they could use their wealthiness to destroy things around them (For example, they could use their grist/boondollars to destroy things around them, either literally like a grist bomb or metaphorically like a paywall) (Wealthiness), they could use their Force to destroy things around them (Power), they could glitch Sburb out and using exploits to destroy/erase things (Disobeyance), and many more possibilities.

Last sidenote: I don't believe a Bard necessarily has to always enter their Crisis to use their powers. Gamzee was reported being the one who did the most damage to the Dersite King in his session, and he also started to use his rage as an effective defense mechanism in [S] Game Over, without necessarily entering a *true* Rage crisis.

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my moirail is a knight of void and i just want to know what others have to say about they think a knight of void is, i personally have my own interpretation that i brainstormed with it (moirail) but yeah i wanna hear other's thoughts on it

Sure! This will be nice since another anon already asked me about knight of void and i'm still owing them an answer, so here we go

Knights are people that actively preserve theirs and through their Aspect, hiding it from the public eye. While similar to Princes in a way that both of them do behave more aligned to their opposite Aspect in the surface, the difference is that Princes want to avoid their Aspect as much as they can while Knights already have their Aspect as a part of their inner nature, they just do not have the confidence to show it fully to the world, probably due to fear.

Void is the Aspect whose general idea is that of Uncertainity. How is it possible that the same thing can both represent something that factually exists, but can't be easily perceived or defined, and also literally inexistence on its own? Simple, the point of Void is that it represents anything that can't be properly defined or measured, or in other words, Uncertain! This applies to anything that is totally subjective and/or unmeasurable. Equius lets his inner impulses guide him on a bunch of things he does, Rose has a hard time understanding her mom and also Roxy due to the nature of Void being about the Unmeasurable, and more.

(Note: You don't necessarily have to lock on into one single interpretation when thinking about those examples, classes have multiple interpretations going on at the same time, including mostly literal ones)

The first thing we need to know about Knights is that they try to protect/preserve their Aspect by hiding it from others, which means that initially they will act more accordingly to their opposite Aspect in a similar fashion to how Destroyer Classes do it. This means that our Knight of Void will, ironically, seem more like a Light Player. We can play out with the many ideas/motifs of Light based around this. Our Knight could be a really famous celebrity (Attention), they could be someone extremely rich (Fortune), they could be a supernaturally lucky person (Manipulation of Chance), a huge nerd who's extremely knowledgeable/confident of stuff (Certainty) and many more.

All of those, however, are just a façade, what the Knight wants to show off to the world about them. Deep inside, they'll be hiding something that's related to Void about them. They could have a dark secret that they want to distract people off from by trying to be popular with everyone (Secrets), they could quite literally have a Void in their life that they want to fill in by interacting more with Light, they could have a inner desire for avoiding so much popularity and start to disappear from the public eye (Obscurity), and you could even have someone that actually has no idea what they're doing but are too shy to talk about it (Uncertainty), etc...

Like i said on my previous analysis, since Knights are Active Classes their main issue derives from doing too much of what they already do, in the case of the Knights it's Preserving their Aspect, A.K.A. Hiding too much of their Aspect from others. For our Knight of Void, they would need to understand that they don't need to keep hiding Void all the time, that they need to reveal it to at least someone else in order to grow and be more at peace with themselves.

As for powers, like in my previous analysis, i believe that Knights and Pages Preserve their Aspect and Preserve through their Aspect. Our Knight of Void could make themselves and others completely disappear (Preserving through Obscurity) , make themselves and others untraceable (Preserving through the Unmeasurable), literally erase themselves and people for a short while to reappear back later (Preserving through Inexistence), and many more.

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Could you do a seer of life? Idk what seeking doom would look like.

Sure! Coincidentally that's the title i speculate that one of my friends who's very proeminent on tumblr ( @da-janela-lateral ) has, which means i already have some thoughts baked in around it.

Life deals with something deeper than just Life itself: It talks about Power. Specifically, the Power to impose your own will and to not be limited by anything, ever. That's why it opposes the idea of Doom, the idea of Impotence, the idea of Obedience. That's why Life players are generally really wealthy, influential and powerful people, and why it also connects to things that give energy to us such as Food.

The Seer is someone who studies their main Aspect by using its opposite as a source. Rose consulted the Horrorterrors and Doc Scratch (an entity she didnt exactly knew very well about and used to leave pretty vague about information although he infact did never lie) as a way to get information (Light), and Terezi used roleplay and impersonation/assumption (Heart motif) as a way of tracing logic (Mind) between the facts.

All Seers have an object tied to their Opposite Aspect that they use to understand their main Aspect, in the case of our Seer of Life, this would be an object that is tied to the nature of Doom. Since Doom is tied to anything that follows a strict order/ruleset as well of the idea of restriction, we could very well have a Seer that tries to understand Life (can represent literal biology, relationships of power between people, literally food, etc.) by restricting their interpretations solely to what their trusty Book says (Understanding Life through Limitation), we could have a Seer that understands the Biology of Sburb creatures by analysing their corpses (Understanding Life through Death), we could have a Seer that's creating a specific ruleset to determine how Life works (think of the laws of nature such as Natural Selection), we can even have a Seer that wants to learn how to cook by restricting themselves only to what they have at their location (Understanding Life through Limitation again) and many more possibilities.

The Seer's issues is that since they use their opposite Aspect as a source, they can very easily corrupt themselves into following their Opposite instead of trying to understand their main Aspect better, which is never a good thing for them. This isn't solely literal like Rose's Grimdark form, but metaphorical as well (Remember each time Terezi accidently let her emotions get in the way of what she was logically supposed to do when executing a plan?)

In the case of our Seer of Life, they would have a tendency to act more accordingly to Doom that they would need to resist by any means. Their limited perspective of Life would hinder themselves to comprehend it fully, maybe they would hunt so much creatures that it would lead to their extinction (Death), maybe they would limit their interpretation to solely analysing patterns of behaviour, which doesn't correspond to fully understanding Life (Destiny), maybe they would obey something or someone to comprehend Life, such as the trusty book scenario i thought earlier, but this would also limit their understanding and make them overly submissive/obedient (Obedience or Impotence), you could even pull of a Crockertier on them or another type of Grimdark, just remembering to keep it tied to the core concept of Doom. The general idea is that our Seer can become so attached to Doom that they hinder themselves from understanding Life, which is a problem that it's possible but difficult to solve, and that leads to great consequences down the road.

Knowledge Classes have no estabilished powers whatsoever aside from having a supernatural knowledge about their Aspect. I speculate however, that the idea is that Seers and Mages have to use their determined knowledge of the Aspect to figure out the best use for it. In other words, it's not about directly messing with it through magic like other classes do, it's understanding how it works and consequentially how to mess it, like we humans do in real life. In the case of my friend @da-janela-lateral , for example, i headcanon that her Life powers are to know any essential information she can gather of entities in general, allies and enemies (especially stats and weaknesses) , similar to Goombella in the Paper Mario games.

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finished ~

i actually liked the painting process! learned a few things. but i ended up thinking she looks way too much like sapphire (who was one of my refs, besides cinderella). anyways she's definitely getting a redesign in the future 🤡

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when your son gets locked up

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when your son escapes 

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when your son comes home

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NEW introduction post.

Okay so, i've been already posting in a while and thankfully i saw that some people actually like my analysis, which makes me really happy!

I believe i should clarify some things better in order to introduce my blog though, which is why i'm making a new intro post. Alright, here we go.

Note 1 - No interpretation is objectively correct.

There isn't an optimal, objective way in which you can explore the Hero Titles. There are many possible combinations even between the same title. You can explore the idea of a Knight of Time in a manner totally unrelated to Dave, and although they will share some motifs in common, they'll still be totally original characters. I believe you should adopt this mindset when trying to understand Classpecting. Unless Hussie himself comes out and bluntly says everything every class does and represents, there's no objectively "right" interpretation. I believe the most important of all is to you get the core idea behind the Aspects and Classes, what they do and why they parallel eachother.

Note 2 - Sometimes i disagree with the fandom consensus.

This is not me saying that i'm "smarter than the fandom" or anything, but you'll see i sometimes disagree with what the fandom commonly thinks of certain titles, especially if i think the interpretation is too arbitrary and biased (looking at you active classes) or trying too much to fit a specific character rather than being a general personality pattern that can be applied to anyone (hello there Rages, Dooms and Bards). In those cases, i often base things around my own analysis.

Note 3 - I love yapping and you guys don't need to worry about repeating Titles.

I sustain this blog mostly as a way to endlessly yap about my current hyperfixation with the assurance that someone else is listening to it, which means i have no trouble if you guys want to ask questions about aspects and classes, even if they are repeated.

I'm saying that because in one of the requests someone pointed that. Don't worry anon, i like to talk about those topics even if i already talked about them beforehand! (especially Pages in general, i think the idea behind them is really interesting)

Note 4 - My analysis evolves with time.

Especially recently since Hussie revealed the actual class pairings, i feel the need to say that my overviews on Titles certainly change with time, especially if someone has something else to add about my interpretation.

Note 5 - I'm pretty lazy.

Don't worry if i take too long to answer you, this is mostly because i either forgot about the blog or i'm too busy to focus on it at the moment. Eventually you'll get answered.

At last, something i think i need to warn you guys is that i don't aim to be a HUGE famous blog or anything like that, like i just said i'm just a guy with a need to yap about his hyperfixation with assurance that someone else will listen to me.

Because of this, i might panic if i see my posts getting too much attention. You guys can reblog if you want, i really like that as well, i'm saying this mostly as a warning to myself if a somewhat famous blog ends up mentioning me and i say something stupid in return because i didn't interpret it very well. That's it, bye!

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Additional disclaimer, I don't do Master Classes.

Nobody sent me a request about master classes yet, but after i saw someone requesting it in another blog i thought i should warn it.

My two main reasons for not covering master classes is:

1 - I don't think it's even possible for a ordinary sburb player to have one, since the Cherubs's conditions were extremely specific. The only case i can see where it works is on a 1-player session, additionaly this title is NOT easy to obtain godtier like the others, caliborn had to fight his denizen before he even got access to his quest bed

2 - Different from other common classes where we have at least two examples of the same class to compare with one another, Lord and Muse are exclusively tied to one single character. This means that whatever i interpret from those Classes has the highly probable risk of me assigning traits for them that are actually things of the Cherubs or the Aspect, not the pattern of the class itself. People already make that mistake a lot with other classes (especially Bards), and i really don't want to repeat them.

Unless we get a new, canon example of a Lord and Muse in the comic (which again, is highly unlikely since their conditions were extremely specific) i'm unable to make a confident analysis about them.

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I hope this is okay if not ignore it if not

Can anyone Classpect me

I have constant existential crisis due to overthinking of my purpose and how my purpose affects the people around me. I also question if there's an outside influence that affects us. I tend to loose focus on my social interactions when I'm distracted with personal and emotional stuff which causes me to hyperfocus on insignificant things and it takes my family and loved ones to help me get back to earth. I also have major trust issues and it takes me awhile to bond with people but if I do trust you, I'll protect and defend you forever. I also collect plushies of things I like to help me with my depression and anxiety and my inner fear of loosing people. I'll also add that I question everything, even my own personal sense of mindset. I do have a sense of belief but I can be skeptical of people, but I can also be gullible if a person appears to be in a crisis, I can be a people pleaser at times, and I have an urge to save and protect people from danger or anything toxic they're going through. I tend to be the mediator between my friends when they're arguing, tho it cause me to be burned out and exhausted. I do love old horror movies, the more obscure the better, and I love classic anime and cartoons. I'm person who takes things either too literal or not at all, Depends on what I read, either I take things as legit or am skeptical. Thus my weird inconsistent trusting. I have trust issues but if someone is need, all logic goes out the window if they're in danger. That's why I'll be the one person who'll be killed by a feral animal if I want to save them. But I have enough self-preservation to not go near anything more wild then a stray cat or dog. But my ass wants to rescue all the abandoned pets, I also tend to deep dive into weird iceberg videos about random things and will go onto random tangents until someone brings me into reality. Again if you don't do this kinda thing you can ignore this ask

Sounds to me like you're a Hopebound! Specifically, a Knight or a Prince of Hope!

Paranoia and distrust seems to play a huge part in your life, which is in line with the core concept of Rage, however, i can see that Hope still thrives in your life since you dedicate it to the people you trust the most! This leaves us with the classes that generally show their behaviour more aligned with the opposite Aspect, Knight and Prince specifically since to me you don't sound like a Bard.

Whenever you are a Knight or a Prince depends on the way you interact with Hope on itself. Do you come off as skeptical, rude or aggressive due to you hiding your trust of others for self preservation (behavior of a Knight), or are you just genuinely distrustful of things in general since you don't want or is unable to trust anything? (behaviour of a Prince)? Only you can answer those!

Knights preserve their Aspect and through their Aspect, and they often hide it from others not because they lack it but because they don't want to expose it at all. The Knight needs to gather enough confidence to not hide so much of their Aspect overall, since doing this makes them too paranoid from the outside world. I can see it in you based on your quotes about wanting to protect what you trust (preserving Hope through Hope) and seeming really distrustful of others until you actually know them better (a way of preserving/keeping Hope to yourself) , but while that sounds obvious i will also bring Prince to the table.

Princes destroy their Aspect and through their Aspect. Destroyer classes get a bad rep on the original comic (especially the troll with that title) but you can relax since i don't believe that classes need to have strict morality rules, and in your case it sounds pretty nice actually! DIfferent from the Knight, it's not that the Prince is hiding their Aspect, they're actively repressing it and avoiding dealing with it! It's part of their nature after all, but that doesn't mean that you're unable to trust anybody, it's just part of your nature.

The Prince overall just needs to not destroy so much of their Aspect to the point where they start to harm themselves and the group in some way. Just look at Eridan, he got so paranoid that he doomed the session almost all by himself. It's not so different in your case, your major flaw involves the possibility of being so skeptical/distrustful that you start to become paranoid of everyone you know. Keep in mind however, that you're obviously still able to trust people despite your nature! It is all about balance. I saw that title in you both because of your general distrust (destruction of Hope), and because when you actually trust people you start to stand up for them (destruction through Hope)

At last, i can also see a little bit of Mage of Rage in you but not so much. Mages generally know really well about their Aspect but are also too close-minded with it, that is also to the point where the Aspect actively represses them in some way (Sollux feeling locked to his fate, Meulin and her relationship) and they need to learn to appreciate their opposite a little more (Sollux was so focused on his fate that he forgot to enjoy Life, Meulin was so dedicated to her relationship that she was rendered unable to come to Mind that her matesprit was manipulating her).

Last consideration for this post, but a Knight of Rage might also be the case if you generally try to hide your distrust from others.

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Bard of Blood? Destroyer classes fascinate me and I can really resonate with this one lol

Great, Destroyer classes fascinate me as well and i've been wanting to talk about Bards for a loong time since i think they're often very misinterpreted by other classpect blogs. I'll do my best!

(i swear this is the only image that i could find on google and it's from a wikia page)

Bards are Passive Destroyers of their Aspect. This basically means that, unlike Princes who can destroy their Aspect on their own, our Bard depends on something external to destroy the Aspect for them. Could vary from a simple habit (Gamzee's religions and sopor pies) to someone else doing it for them (Cronus only had his hope destroyed when Kurloz came up to him and talked him out of it).

Blood is the Aspect that deals with Connections. I think it is fairly easy to explain since it represents such a brand topic, but it really represents everything that Connects you and others to anything. Why does Karkat hide his Blood, besides the literal meaning? Because he wants to hide and protect his Connection with the Signless, that's why.

Our Bard of Blood would be someone that depends on something else to avoid Connections for them. They could have a certain condition or lifestyle that prevents them from bonding with other people, they could literally avoid Blood like being locked in their home prevents them from seeing blood in other places, they could be avoiding their family through something else thats avoiding it for them, and many more possibilities. Bards can avoid their Aspect with practically anything.

Bards work through constant avoidance of their Aspect just like Princes do. You have to keep in mind however, that they are only able to avoid it because something does it for them other than themselves being capable of destroying it. This means that their avoidance mechanisms can (and probably will) be destroyed sooner of later, forcing them to deal with their Aspect all at once, and that's where the famous Bard Crisis comes from.

The thing with the Crisis is that, unlike what i mostly see on other blogs, Bards don't keep perpetually stuck with their opposite Aspect the first time they have a crisis and are completely irredemable ever since. Their issue is not that they can't avoid their Aspect anymore, their issue is what they will use to avoid it later after they have their crisis. Gamzee wasn't perpetually stuck on Rage after his rampage, he just switched all the hope he deposited on his religion (that was now destroyed) to bring Lord English into existence, that was his new method of soothing himself, so much so that he didn't even mind when Caliborn used him as target practice without even doubting himself. Since he switched from a narratively "healthy" mechanism to a unhealthy one, he became completely unpredictable and untrustworthy ever since. If he had found a way to destroy Rage before Lil Cal came and did his thing, we could have gone a completely different fate for him.

That's how a Bard "fails". Since they are a Passive class, their challenge is properly doing what they're tasked to do. While a Bard's destructive mode may be helpful in some extremely specific cases, when the Bard enters a crisis it will surely be for the negative side, since their main Aspect is inherently unhealthy for them in some way.

A crisis of Blood would involve the exact consequences of not being able to avoid Blood anymore, following the examples that i said above. Our Bard would then "flip", and start destroying Blood with Blood. Maybe they could literally fill stuff with Blood until it bursts, maybe they would start to use their friends as weapons, maybe they could use ropes or chains to destroy their enemies, and more possibilities.

Like i said, the main issue with the Bard is not the possibility of having a crisis, is how they will avoid their Aspect next time. The Bard will naturally work around their Aspect in one way or another after their crisis since it represents a unhealthy part of them that they want to keep away. If you can keep your Bard destroying their Aspect in a healthy way and making sure that it won't be destroyed afterwards, then you won't need to fear them.

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Hello!

I was wondering if you could do a Page of Heart?

Sure! Let's go!

Pages along with Knights are classes that Preserve their Aspect. While the Knight already begins the session actively protecting their Aspect, hiding it from the outside world, Pages want to do the same (keep their Aspect with them) and they often indeed have the necessary talent/interest and quantity of their Aspect, however they don't know how to Preserve it properly, which results in huge wastings.

Heart represents the Irrational, the Instinctive. It represents what makes people the way they are and what differentiates them from one another. More than just "romance" and "identity" stuff, Heart symbolizes the unique internal landscape of people, the complete opposite of the Rational. Instead of focusing on what's the most logical and optimal path, let's listen to your feelings and do what YOU want to do, base decisions on what YOU are. That's the core idea of Heart.

A Page of Heart would be someone that has a great potential and/or ambition to preserve Heart. Maybe they'd want to be a great emotional counsellor (preserving Emotions), maybe they want their group to stand out and feel more unique (preserving Identity), maybe they don't want their friends to lose their previous personality and begin acting like completely different people, and many more possibilities.

As you already know from my previous analysis, however, Pages have the issue that while they really want to preserve their Aspect, they really need to learn how to do it by themselves. They often indeed have plenty of their Aspect with them, but they accidently waste it because they didn't use it well enough. Same with our Page.

Our Page would really try to preserve Heart but they will keep faiing until they can learn to preserve it properly. They could possibly try to keep their teammates's emotions on check but by giving really shallow emotional advice that doesn't help at all, they could try to make our group more unique but only by adding extremely common or "cliche" things that only make it even more generic, maybe they would try to keep everyone the same as they are but end up failing because they didn't try well enough, etc. Our Page must keep learning with time to preserve Heart, and so hopefully they can finally show off their powers in the end.

I've already explained Pages's powers on my previous post, so i don't think i have to explain how they work here. Regardless, we can do a bunch of things based on the idea of Preserving Heart through Heart for others. We could have a Page that creates a clones based on their subjective perception of what they think of others, resulting in cartoonish clones of people they know that might not be exactly true to how they really are, we could have a Page that uses their Emotions to protect others from harm, like a dome of pure anger that destroys everything the Page doesn't like, we could have a Page that quite literally works like a cage (a soul cage possibly), preserving Souls through Themselves for others, and many more!

My tip for understanding and exploring Aspects is, instead of solely interpreting them by their motifs, try to explore them based mostly on what they actually mean/embody. In the manner of Heart, this Aspect deals with everything that isn't generic, rational or logical of the human being. There's no calculated set path here, just people acting like they use to because they are being themselves.

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Ik you’ve talked about pages before but would love to hear what you think about a Page of Time !!

Sure anon! I love talking about Pages, this will be interesting!

Pages along with Knights are classes that Preserve their Aspect. While the Knight already begins the session actively protecting their Aspect, hiding it from the outside world, Pages want to do the same (keep their Aspect with them) and they often indeed have the necessary talent/interest and quantity of their Aspect, however they don't know how to Preserve it properly, which results in huge wastings.

Time is the Aspect that represents Hurry. You've got to do what you need to do before time arrives and everything decays. If you stand up there and do nothing, time will start to work against you. Problems that seem really small, if you don't work around them in time, can result in huge problems in the future. That's the core idea of Time.

A Page of Time would be someone that has some kind of grand ambition and/or inherent potential with Time. Maybe they want to be really proactive and useful, capable of solving everyone's problems as soon as they appear (Dealing with short-term problems) , maybe they want to keep up with the current times (Being up-to-date) , maybe they want to be a famous musician (Music is also one of Time's motifs, probably due to the precise timing that notes should have), maybe they're relatives of a famous time traveller and they use that family member as a inspiration to them (Literal Time) and many more.

Now, what's the difference between Knights and Pages? It all relies on their alignment. While Knights are Active Classes, whose main issue stems from doing too much of what they do, Pages are Passive classes, where the main issue is that they're being rendered unable to do what they are tasked to do.

Pages often have the quantity, inspiration and potential to deal with their Aspect, they just don't have enough knowledge on how to Preserve it properly. This is what culminates in Jake emanating Hope but also wasting it every time he tries to do something significant, and what culminates in Tavros wasting his Freedom by sticking in with Vriska. (also i'm speaking this based on what i think the author meant by their characters, especially Tavros, as i'm a page defender xd)

With that in mind, our Page definitely wouldn't be the absolute quick thinker that they want to be. They would often try to preserve Time, but they would also accidently waste it. Taking too long to finish their tasks, not being able to think quickly, having problems understanding how the Timeline works and how to manage it, and many more possibilities. Remind you however, that these flaws are not unfixable and they do not stem from how impotent the class is, they stem from lack of experience. Gradually the Page needs to learn to preserve their Aspect better and when they finally do it, they can honour their title.

For powers, i believe that Pages quite literally shield themselves and others with their Aspect as a way of Preserving tjrough them, like how Jake preserved himself and Dirk through his Hope field. I think you guys already have a idea of what i'm going to say next. This Page can literally act like the stand The World, creating a dome of frozen time around him that instantly stops everything inside of it. (Preserving through Time). We could also have a power that involves metaphorically freezing stuff in time instead of merely stopping it, meaning that the Page creates a bubble where everything inside of it is preserved in time, free from the rest of the timeline's influence (which would honestly be very helpful), and they could also create past time clones of their currently deceased friends as another way of preserving through Time, and many more!

Reminder that when the Pages use their power the Aspect is quite literally flowing out of them. They're releasing everything that they kept preserved all at once, meaning that the challenge itself of the Page in that topic is not exactly his ability to bend their Aspect in a stronger way, but rather their ability to keep their Aspect flowing for as long as they can.

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Mailing over witch of void

Nice! I've been waiting so i could also talk about witches again, thanks!

Witches are active classes that are now revealed to be paired with Sylphs. For a short while we were unsure of what could their main verb be since their reveal, but now we have a pretty good guess. Witches are people that are normally separated from their society and/or group due to their main Aspect (Jade being distant from anyone, Feferi being the highest blood on the hemospectrum, Damara being separated from her friends, both chronologically as the Handmaid and metaphorically with Doc Scratch raising her instead), and that same metaphorical distance that the Aspect gives to them is also what gives them the urge to innovate with their Aspect in some way.

Void is the Aspect whose general idea is that of Uncertainity. How is it possible that the same thing can both represent something that factually exists, but can't be easily perceived or defined, and also literally inexistence on its own? Simple, the point of Void is that it represents anything that can't be properly defined or measured, or in other words, Uncertain! This applies to anything that is totally subjective and/or unmeasurable. Equius lets his inner impulses guide him on a bunch of things he does, Rose has a hard time understanding her mom and also Roxy due to the nature of Void being about the Unmeasurable, and more.

The Witch of Void would be someone that is separated from others through Void. Maybe this Witch is a complete mystery, someone that lives in shadow, or just someone that people like to ignore and pretend she isn't there for some reason, etc. This same isolation would result in her developing her own idea on how Void should work. Working with the possible motifs we can have a bunch of stuff, such as someone that wants to modify the Furthest Ring (wants to change creatures from the Void), someone that wants to turn things they know don't exist into reality (wants to change Inexistence), and other more silly interpretations as well, such as someone that wants to redefine what people consider to be grim and serious. (wants to change Darkness)

Witches are Active classes which means their main problem is that of them doing too much of what their Title embodies. Witches often change things both intentionally and non-intentionally, but their main issue is that they change too much without realising the true impact of those changes, often ending up being harmed by them. Feferi changed Sollux and Eridan's Lifes, no question about that, but it was also her (albeit non intentionally) that sparked the first bit of frustration that Eridan had while in the session, eventually culminating on his fight with Sollux over her and later on the death of almost anyone who were in the meteor that moment. Damara altered the Beforan Timeline initiating the Scratch out of pure anger, probably in hopes of wiping everyone out of existence with the temporal energy, which resulted in Meenah killing everyone before they could be erased and creating the Alternian timeline where Doc Scratch had full control over them, as well as propagating the cycle where she's forced to serve him.

In the case of this Witch, they could have done many things. Maybe they blur the line between what exists and doesn't exist so much that people start to lose their sense of reality (Inexistence), maybe people are way too confused about them, their motives and feelings, that they start to perceive them as a untrustable source (Uncertainity), kind of redundant but maybe this Witch is so absent from others's life that they start to distrust and dislike her (Absence), and many more.

At last, for potential powers i think i'd need to talk about my interpretation of Witches.

Since they've been recently paired with Sylphs we've been confused on what exactly they do that can also be correlated, since sylphs unquestionably heal with their Aspect and we still haven't seen a sylph that can lower the Aspect itself like a Witch does. This made me and my friend think of the idea that i'm about to explain.

Witches and Sylphs Stabilize/Restore their Aspect. While the Sylph restores the Aspect to its original, natural order, the Witch restores the Aspect to the order she thinks fits best to it (in other words, modifying it). With that in mind, this Witch would stabilize Void using her perspective as reference, permanently modifying it. We could have a Witch that permanently changes how Dark a place can be (changing Darkness, obviously) , we could have someone that turns things that they know do not exist into reality (changing Inexistence), we could have someone that can hide certain objects from perception in general (changing Secrets) and many more.

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knight of space?

I've been dying to talk about Knights and Pages again, thanks anon!

Knights are people that actively preserve theirs and through their Aspect, hiding it from the public eye. While similar to Princes in a way that both of them do behave more aligned to their opposite Aspect in the surface, the difference is that Princes want to avoid their Aspect as much as they can while Knights already have their Aspect as a part of their inner nature, they just do not have the confidence to show it fully to the world, probably due to fear.

Space is the Aspect that deals with Creation. Not only physical creation in general, but rather the idea that "Things take time to create, better be patient if you want to make something really good", which is why it is the opposite of Time. It also deals with physical distance because of the literal interpretation of the Aspect and also because dealing with Space also means worrying with long-term problems instead of short-term ones (more aligned with Time)

This Knight would be someone that would want to preserve Space as much as they could while hiding it from the others. Since Aspects are malleable, this could have simultaneous and multiple meanings. Since our guy/girl is hiding their Aspect, they will (on the surface) act like a Time player. They could be really proactive, steadfast, hurried up, and a bunch of other adjectives that you can come up with the concept of the Time aspect. This way of acting, however, it's actually just a façade to hide their relationship with Space. Maybe our Knight has a close attachment to a physical object but it's too embarassing for them to talk about it (Since Space also deals with the physical), maybe they have a inner artist that they want to show but aren't confident in their own abilities, maybe they have an attachment to their own home or even Land and they are nervous to talk about it, and many more. Hero titles deal with multiple motifs often at the same time, so you don't have to necessarily lock your Knight into one specific interpretation.

All classes have a specific way to "fail" in their function in some way, and this is no exception to the Knight. Since they are active classes, their way of failing involves doing too much of what their function tells them to do. The Knight should preserve their Aspect yes, but they shouldn't do it so much that they start locking themselves emotionally because of it. In other words, if we want our Knight of Space to fully grow and finish their character arc, they would need to eventually learn that they can indeed express their relationship with Space and that they don't need to keep hiding it forever from others.

As for powers, while it is mostly speculative since Hussie haven't told us the verb that Knights and Pages work on neither did he ever show a Knight actually using his powers as far as i can tell (Dave's time travelling is common for all Time players in general, not Knights), i can make some thoughts based on my interpretation that both Knights and Pages Preserve their Aspect.

Knights preserve their Aspect and through their Aspect. Maybe our Knight can protect themselves and other things by giving Space to them. Covering them with other objects, making a impenetrable wall to keep things away (preserving through physical objects), making a gravitational field that will keep hazards away (preserving through Distance), magnifying objects to protect them from harm (preserving through Size), and many more possibilities.

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The heir of rage It's getting approaching your house at full speed

And also, potential powers! (Since we haven't see rage as a physical power or sum)

Alright, this is going to be a pretty long post. Here we go.

Heirs are people that inherit their main Aspect and let it decide how they act. Now, contrary to popular belief, Heirs aren't necessarily naturals of their main Aspect, rather their main Aspect actually guides and shields the Heir from greater harm. As an example, think about how stuff happens with John Egbert on the start of his session. All of his friends are either unavaiable, not paying attention at all to his situation, or unable to help him anyway. If he depended solely on Rose to do the initial Sburb steps, he would've been dead right before entering his Land, and you can see even more examples right after it, like trusting Terezi to fight his denizen early which got him killed and forced Dave to rewind back in time to save the session. Rage is the Aspect that deals with Skepticism. Now, i don't believe Rage is necessarily about realism like the majority of the community says so. I think the IDEA behind the word is right per say, but it's not the exact word i would use to describe it. That's because at least to me, Rage exclusively represents the frustration that you have when you realize things don't work quite as you HOPED them to. Your hope has suddenly been lost, as the harsh reality comes forth. As you can see, while reality is indeed part of what makes rage, it's not exactly the "thing" that the Aspect represents. Your hopes on the subject have been destroyed, and now the only thing on your mind is frustration as those expectations haven't been met. Thats why they're completely opposite ideals.

The Heir of Rage would be someone that often lets Rage make decisions for them, often torn between letting Rage act their way or go and act aligned to Hope. You would assume that this Heir would be very angry about anything ever, right? While yes, this is a plausible possibility, i'd like to go out of my way to give another possible interpretation to the meanings of Rage.

Rage being not solely about "realism" is the point here. Rage is not only "the harsh reality", it is also lack of hope. Disbelief, distrust. Not trusting in anything is the core idea of Rage. This is what i rationalized to bring out my fankid. My Heir of Rage, contrary to his title, it's pretty chill. His problem, however, is that he also suffers with anxiety a lot. He distrusts and gets paranoid about everything he sees, every single time. The problem with that however, is that if you saw my previous analysis about Heirs, you'd know that just because Heirs let their main Aspect guide them, this doesn't mean that they will never bump with their Opposite, and that's exactly what troubles and can possibly end up killing the Heir.

My Heir of Rage is so paranoid that not only does he distrusts stuff, he also begins to feed his hundreds of tragic thoughts out of the blue. His thoughts get really absurd with what could possibly happen, that often he loses focus to what is actually happening. This is the core idea of an Heir of Rage to me, they'll need to let Rage guide them in some way, but this method will often have them also having to deal with Hope in some way. You could also go in the most literal sense, like a Heir that lets their frustration guide them on their methods, but often they feel torn between doing that or waiting and see if the situation in question will get better, etc. The core principle of an Heir is that basically every single time they do something related to "betraying" their main Aspect and going to their Opposite, it's also where their protection fades out and they're probably going to get screwed by the narrative.

At last, for powers it is indeed harder since Rage is one of the more abstract Aspects, but i have some ideas. First we have the most obvious one, that is of this Heir becoming a savage beast that kills everything in sight like Gamzee did, second and the most interesting one to me, while Rage is not exactly about Realism it can in fact embody the question of "If anything is real or not", with that in mind we could have a Heir that has the powers to break the 4th wall, like turning into a portal or door to the layout of the site, letting others escape the comic, you could also do something sillier like, since Rage represents skepticism and disbelief in general, this Heir can turn into a magic-nullifying spectre that is immune to god tier powers since those are literally magic and this Heir doesn't believe in them, etc.

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NEW introduction post.

Okay so, i've been already posting in a while and thankfully i saw that some people actually like my analysis, which makes me really happy!

I believe i should clarify some things better in order to introduce my blog though, which is why i'm making a new intro post. Alright, here we go.

Note 1 - No interpretation is objectively correct.

There isn't an optimal, objective way in which you can explore the Hero Titles. There are many possible combinations even between the same title. You can explore the idea of a Knight of Time in a manner totally unrelated to Dave, and although they will share some motifs in common, they'll still be totally original characters. I believe you should adopt this mindset when trying to understand Classpecting. Unless Hussie himself comes out and bluntly says everything every class does and represents, there's no objectively "right" interpretation. I believe the most important of all is to you get the core idea behind the Aspects and Classes, what they do and why they parallel eachother.

Note 2 - Sometimes i disagree with the fandom consensus.

This is not me saying that i'm "smarter than the fandom" or anything, but you'll see i sometimes disagree with what the fandom commonly thinks of certain titles, especially if i think the interpretation is too arbitrary and biased (looking at you active classes) or trying too much to fit a specific character rather than being a general personality pattern that can be applied to anyone (hello there Rages, Dooms and Bards). In those cases, i often base things around my own analysis.

Note 3 - I love yapping and you guys don't need to worry about repeating Titles.

I sustain this blog mostly as a way to endlessly yap about my current hyperfixation with the assurance that someone else is listening to it, which means i have no trouble if you guys want to ask questions about aspects and classes, even if they are repeated.

I'm saying that because in one of the requests someone pointed that. Don't worry anon, i like to talk about those topics even if i already talked about them beforehand! (especially Pages in general, i think the idea behind them is really interesting)

Note 4 - My analysis evolves with time.

Especially recently since Hussie revealed the actual class pairings, i feel the need to say that my overviews on Titles certainly change with time, especially if someone has something else to add about my interpretation.

Note 5 - I'm pretty lazy.

Don't worry if i take too long to answer you, this is mostly because i either forgot about the blog or i'm too busy to focus on it at the moment. Eventually you'll get answered.

At last, something i think i need to warn you guys is that i don't aim to be a HUGE famous blog or anything like that, like i just said i'm just a guy with a need to yap about his hyperfixation with assurance that someone else will listen to me.

Because of this, i might panic if i see my posts getting too much attention. You guys can reblog if you want, i really like that as well, i'm saying this mostly as a warning to myself if a somewhat famous blog ends up mentioning me and i say something stupid in return because i didn't interpret it very well. That's it, bye!

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short ramble before i try to post something

the thing that i find funny when people classpect "jerk with a heart of gold" characters like susie as knights of rage is that like, no you're doing it wrong, knights tend to hide their aspect from others until they feel comfortable showing it, a knight of rage would be shy about showing their anger not the other way around xd

they should be from their opposite aspect if that's the case (knight of hope in this situation)

[rogue-of-heart-classpecting]

I think Karkat hides his aspect but I think Dave hides BEHIND his aspect.

I’ve been thinking about the knight of rage for several years now. I think this person would be afraid to show the true extent of their rage, but they would be constantly annoyed and irritable. They might take it out on those around them.

I think it’s like how when Steven universe was scared of the monster he could become if he lost control.

[douchebagsdoingclasspectingnow]

i don't know how to reply properly to reblogs since going to the comments just link back to my original post, but i find this a really interesting idea actually! a knight that shows a bit of their aspect but doesn't have enough confidence to show the full extent of it its actually a great way for them to protect their aspect, honestly even kinda relatable to myself since i feel like that a lot when dealing with Heart lmao

sorry for my post also, i sounded a bit too confident and condescending on this one