Real Facts about the Toxic Love Triangle in Total Drama
I hate it when some Total Drama fans claim their opinions and assumptions about the series are "facts" even though they are NOT! Especially when it comes to the toxic love triangle between Duncan, Courtney, and Gwen.
About the toxic love triangle, it was actually confirmed by Fresh TV's social media that network executives forced the Duncney (Duncan x Courtney) and Gwent (Gwen x Trent) breakups plus the idea to make Gwuncan (Gwen x Duncan) canon even though Tom McGillis was against the networks' ideas.
Tom McGillis revealed that he prefers Duncney over Gwuncan.
From what I noticed and what was revealed from Fresh TV's social media, Duncan did NOT truly love Gwen for who she was at all.
Drew Nelson (Duncan's voice actor) even said that Duncan only liked Gwen for her similar aesthetics and not for her deep or true attributes.
In the canon series Duncan purposely abused Trent and said things to Gwen about him that were completely false then cheated on Courtney with her. He also lied to Gwen about Courtney while still having feelings for Courtney.
Duncan never treated Gwen with kindness, honesty, respect, loyalty, empathy, acceptance, or any other attributes of true love.
Trent on the other hand did display many attributes of true love to Gwen, but networks ruined Gwent's relationship for very stupid and unnecessary reasons. Even Fresh TV's staff confirmed that Trent truly loved Gwen and had good chemistry together.
The executives at Teletoon and Cartoon Network might ship Gwuncan, but they gave an extremely horrible and wrong example of romantic relationships. They portrayed deception, manipulation, infidelity, and contempt instead of real romance with the toxic love triangle.
My statement about the toxic love triangle's portrayal by networks is a valid theory but it hasn't all yet been confirmed. The other parts would be considered facts from behind the scenes info.
Facts and opinions are different; and I'm glad I know the differences.
Networks triggered shipping wars by forcing so many unwanted alterations to Total Drama and I'm still wondering why they are continuing to do this.
Alright, I'm just going to say this but you need proof. If you're going to say that Duncan never treated Gwen with kindness, then show it.
I could say that too, right?
Trent is abusive. When has he been abusive? Never. The same thing goes for Duncan because he surely did respect her.
Now, let me begin.
'From what I noticed and what was revealed from Fresh TV's social media, Duncan did NOT truly love Gwen for who she was at all.'
Could you elaborate? This seems more like opinions and assumptions.
If Duncan didn't love Gwen, he wouldn't have bothered to be involved in the whole love triangle shit. Like the situation wasn't in his or Gwen's favour and he could've chosen to easier way out which Gwen had even offered him: to go back with Courtney. Did he do that? No. He chose to go through the hate together, with Gwen.
You don't need to say you love someone to love someone. It has to come at the right time but it is shown.
If he didn't love her, he wouldn't worry/care over her however, he did.
Check it out and look at the specific scene I've mentioned.
-He was the first to be worried about Gwen's safety in the horror episode.
-In the episode Trent cheated on Gwen, he seemed angry. He did the same thing two seasons later. He flirted with Heather in the same season when he was dating Courtney.
-In the camp castaways episode. When Gwen was on the bird with him, he seemed more worried about her.
-He was going to get the egg for Gwen
-How he told Gwen stuff like the picture of Courtney under his pillow. He doesn't go around to tell that sort of stuff, right?
-The guy was steadying her as she was about to fall. You do that to someone you don't care about, am I right?
-Trying to console her when she was ranting about Trent and blaming herself for Trent's issues.
-Looked worried when he saw Gwen sneeze in the episode she broke up with Trent and also cheering her on.
-In the episode she was eliminated in TDA, he wouldn't have defended her from Heather, supporting Gwen's excuse, look worried during the elimination ceremony, try to give himself up for elimination, or stare at her lovingly because he doesn't love her.
-The stargazing scene. The way that man looked at her was pure love.
-When he was listing facts about her. If he didn't care, he could've just said Idk and faced the consequences.
-In the intro he was worried as she was sinking.
-Wanting to join her climb over the pyramid.
-The way he was staring at her in the I See London episode, "Every time I ran from the cops, I thought of you." Really? That isn't love to you?
-How awkward bro got in the Greece episode. He was being vulnerable. You don't see much like that from him because he normally hides it but you see it when he's with Gwen.
-Bro the whole Area 51 episode, the big smile, awkwardness, letting her go first, LEG POP, the way he stared at her, the nickname (Pasty is original), him and Gwen wishing each other luck to try not get eliminated.
-Not obliging to Heather's flirting, supporting his gf, sad when he realised she might be eliminated.
-Still avoiding Heather's flirting (if he didn't love Gwen, he would've allowed Heather's flirting. He did so when he dated Courtney), the carving of Gwen on the chair.
-"Ah, Gwen, I'll see you soon!" He says as he's eliminated.
-The only one supporting her who's trying to comfort her as everyone is calling her a villain, worried when there was sharks in front of her.
-When she got a piece, he's there supporting her and congratulating her.
-Saving her from a leech, cheek kiss before he leaves.
-Saying he misses her, blowing air kisses, supporting her and encouraging her to continue and she even barfed on him but he never got mad, going up to her to help her.
-Asking Sierra to make more Gwuncan videos.
If the show was forced to make Gwuncan and they really despise the ship and made Duncan not love Gwen, why is there so many times where he has shown his love?
I suggest watching the show and the TikTok account because they have very valid points and edits (they're mine).
So now, if you go making stuff up, show proof. That is love.
Drew Nelson (Duncan's voice actor) even said that Duncan only liked Gwen for her similar aesthetics and not for her deep or true attributes.
He did not say that. In fact, Drew Nelson admitted he liked Gwuncan more than Duncney because Courtney was too high maintenance and he likes someone who's chill and like him. You know, someone he feels comfortable around and doesn't feel the need to do so much to impress or satisfy them.
No one is going to be all lovey and sappy around someone who just had same aesthetics. That's stupid and something no one does except maybe the way the ship looks like in your imagination and all the other annoying haters.
In the canon series Duncan purposely abused Trent and said things to Gwen about him that were completely false then cheated on Courtney with her. He also lied to Gwen about Courtney while still having feelings for Courtney.
When did he do that? I don't even remember the time Trent and Duncan ever spoke. Moreover, when did he say that everything about him and Gwen is completely false.
Duncan cheated which is wrong, but he probably cheated because there was no way out of the relationship. His personality, things he likes, looks, the way he spoke was on a list to improve, he was not good enough as the person he was. He would only be a suitable boyfriend if he'd followed the list. He was her personal doll. There could be more that happened. Think about what could happen if he actually listened to Courtney and followed the list. The once happy, and tough guy turned into the male version of Courtney out of fear and hoping to be appreciated. In hopes to make his and her relationship stronger, he's changing himself.
But if you hate on Duncan for cheating, why don't you hate on Courtney? She was about to kiss Justin in front of Duncan in the princess episode in TDA. Why don't you talk about that?
How do you know he still had feelings for Courtney? There is more than one solution.
Now, you're saying he never showed those attributes but I can't be bothered listing it all out so the big list shows, kindness, empathy, loyalty.
Acceptance: They accepted each other, duh. If they didn't, they wouldn't have liked each other. But they did.
Now Gwent:
-Trent made Gwen feel uncomfortable. (Not respectful)
-Their communication sucked. (No honesty)
-Trent was throwing challenges for her (That's because he thought Gwen wasn't capable of winning on her own or else why would he do that). (No accepting she was capable)
-Calling Lindsays beautiful in spite of Gwen. (Not kind)
-Kissed back and trusted Gwen's biggest enemy. (No loyalty)
-Gwen told Trent's team to vote him off. (No loyalty)
-Trent left her buried alive. A little reasonable because he had his own fears.
-In the aftermath, Trent had practically turned everyone against Gwen and when she asked for Trent's support, he just looked at her weird. (No empathy)
-The guy had some serious issues and like didn't seem stable in season two. (Honesty)
-He had some insecurities of Gwen being with a guy which isn't him which caused jealousy too. (Wasn't accepting she had other friends)
I don't really pay attention to Gwent because it's eh but like if I did, I probably would find way more.
So, uh, you're also wrong because I'm sure kissing back to your girlfriend's enemy, making her feel uncomfortable, insecure and jealous when your girlfriend isn't with you isn't something good.
Does those sound like attributes of love to you?
The executives at Teletoon and Cartoon Network might ship Gwuncan, but they gave an extremely horrible and wrong example of romantic relationships. They portrayed deception, manipulation, infidelity, and contempt instead of real romance with the toxic love triangle.
It is called Total DRAMA. The cheating was meant to happen, alright? Obviously there was betrayal but Gwen and Duncan didn't betray, manipulate, infidelity the other. The love triangle was toxic and Gwuncan was toxic but it isn't as toxic compared to other ships.
Gwen and Duncney.
Facts and opinions are different; and I'm glad I know the differences.
Yes, and facts come with proof. Where's yours?
Networks triggered shipping wars by forcing so many unwanted alterations to Total Drama and I'm still wondering why they are continuing to do this.
It is a show for DRAMA. Please think. Not everything is meant to be rainbows and sunshine. That's not how life is and that is also why they decided to not make Duncney and Gwent endgame. Maybe it's entertaining but there are issues to the ship.
Time for debate.
Real love does have flaws but if you're feeling uncomfortable in your relationship, that it not real love. If you're insecure about your relationship, that's not real love. If you can't even communicate properly with your partner, that's not real love. If you're jealous and trying to make your partner jealous, that's not real love. If you think your partner is incapable, that's not real love.
Heck, if you feel insecure about yourself, you shouldn't be in a relationship.
Why do you need Fresh TV to determine everything for you? You've been in this fandom for a decade and debating without proof. I'm not making assumptions because I come with proof. In fact, you're making assumptions and I bet you made another account for Fresh TV and claim it is actually them. That is lame and pathetic because your only excuse to my arguments is that it's assumptions.
It says without proof.
And you're not even specifying where I'm making assumptions.
@gothikaxenon
Uhm, I'm not making assumptions about you. You use the same reasons: psychology, Duncan never showed respect, and Fresh TV. Do you ever back your reasonings up? No you don't.
This thing you posted is not confirmed. The person said I think. They didn't say I know. There's a difference. See, that is an opinion, guess, inference. It is not a fact if they say I think because it might not be 100% true. So, it is not confirmed, nor is it valid evidence. Also, that's the only evidence you've posted.
Oh, but Tom likes Duncney more and was forced to break them up. What is that going to do? Make us like Duncney? Please tell me what that's going to do because Drew Nelson (Duncan's VA) preferred Gwuncan. So did Chris's Va.
Yeah, I'm not saying you're forcing others, I'm saying you're making statements without proof and calling it facts. But when I do it with an analysis, specify when it was made, and make a fact using what was presented and knowledge, you called it opinions and assumptions.
Plus, to this day, you still haven't mentioned when Duncan wasn't respectful, loyal... to Gwen.
@gothikaxenon Yeah, I did see the proof actually, the first one doesn't work. The second one isn't even confirmed, and third one is not even supporting your argument. The reason why it's not your problem is because you are one but doesn't matter. At least I got to prove you wrong in quite literally all your pathetic arguments.
Assuming that you're quite literally losing, I'll take that as a win.
Please use proof next time and if you're trying to fight back, be more specific. Thank you.
No one can convince me that Duncan and Courtney weren't forced to go back together in Celebrity Manhunt
There is no way that in that episode Duncan is like aw I miss that girl and like all kissy kissy with Courtney but then the second season 3 starts, he's just blanking her out and focussing on Gwen.
I hc that Duncan and Courtney were forced to sign contracts by Chris to go back together before Celebrity Manhunt.
Before Duncan quit the game, he told Courtney that their 'relationship' was over because in that episode, he seemed so sick of Courtney.
But Courtney was crying and everything when Duncan cheated, though.
That's because I think she believed that her and Duncan actually got back together or something and when Duncan tried to break-up with her, she thought he was joking.
And that is why Gwen kept saying Courtney wasn't with Duncan at the time.
But, she also said that she kissed Courtney's boyfriend. So maybe Gwen thought they actually were together and caught up in the moment. Duncan would've then told her that they weren't together and like contracts and stuff.
Another thing is when Duncan said every time I ran from the cops, I thought of you. I think the editors changed the order of the video so after the kiss, Duncan leaves the confession while Gwen stays and then, he was caught by Courtney as she started yelling at him for leaving. Then, she embraces him in a hug and that's when Gwen steps out of the confession and Duncan says that. Also, Duncan seemed surprised when she hugged him so maybe, he thought they were already broken up and she was just screeching her voice just because she's Courtney.
The reason why I think that is because why would Gwen be in the confession twice?
Like in the first scene, Gwen was leaving and then the next scene, she's back in the confession. And that is how she realised they were together.
Them?? (Quality sucks, I know. This is what happens when YouTube removes the show 😒)
Are we talking about the same people who risked their reputation on LIVE TV with their large audience and the cast to be together?
Are we talking about the same people who could confide in each other and be vulnerable?
Are we talking about the same people who could bring the best out of each other?
Is that not love?
Wow, so friendly! Definitely a look you would give someone who is just a friend, right?
This too, right? Totally not in love.
Also, another thing, they did not like each other for their aesthetics. They might've started interacting due to being the most similar from the cast but that's all. That does not make a person start a liking.
They hugged each other because they have they're similar, right?
Wrong. In fact, they are not similar. (Gwen's a goth and Duncan's a punk and they do not look similar either because they are not siblings) They have similar interests and their colour scheme is slightly similar. But that's it. They don't have everything in common because they are simply not the same person and they didn't only interact because they have similar aesthetics.
Another argument I have to discuss is the cheating scandal.
Yes, they shouldn't have cheated but it is TOTAL DRAMA. Duncan and Courtney kissing on the bus was solely due to the reason to make Duncan cheat. If the scandal didn't happen, the show wouldn't have gotten to its popularity it had gotten to this day. (It wouldn't completely crumble but it is a big concept on the show as it was hinted from TDA and led all the way to TDAS)
But also yes, they were toxic because cheating is wrong but as I've said in NUMEROUS POSTS, that isn't the only part of their relationship. In fact, when it was just Gwen and Duncan-and not Gwen and Duncan + the show, Courtney, and Trent-they were pretty good. Obviously during that time, they were just friends but they did work. Especially due to the fact that they worked 2 (?) years after TDWT. Obviously, they wouldn't have stayed together if all they thought about was Courtney.
Eugh.
If they didn't love each other, why were they worrying over the other's elimination? (You don't see friends worrying over it)
If they didn't love each other, why were they loyal to the other? (I know Gwen said she liked Alejandro's eyes but that's not cheating though and Duncan stayed loyal when Heather tried to flirt with him)
If they didn't love each other, why would they actually try to understand each other on a deeper level and be there to comfort the other? (They don't just bond over movies, alright?)
"Every time I ran away from the cops, I thought of you."
"And Duncan... he missed... us."
"'But I'm so glad you're here to mock me about it.' 'Me too.'"
TDAS
The worst season ever but that is probably the best season for anti-Gwuncans because they have a reason to hate.
"Duncan only thought about Courtney!" Oh please, you're just sad that your stupid ship was over.
If he really wanted Courtney, he would do what he did in season 1. Why didn't he do that? Please answer the question because he wasn't a loyal person... To Courtney. And yes, I've stated that he was loyal because, he was to the right person. So maybe that's why he didn't try and win Courtney over, right? Oh wait, Gwen and Duncan broke up. Why isn't he trying to win her over now? He was available and I'm sure he wouldn't mind stealing Courtney away from Scott. But did he do that? No.
That is because he did not have feelings for her.
Did you try to think he just wanted attention? Insecure maybe?
Although Courtney was involved, this had nothing to do with underlying feelings for his ex because there weren't any feelings. He just wanted attention because Gwen wasn't giving any.
I read this really good post explaining Duncan and Courtney in an actual psychological perspective. They were describing the issues and explaining the situation and it was really good. If i ever find it again, I'll post it here.
I don't know how to explain this into depth but people do tend to be hung upon trauma. He'd been abused physically, verbally in numerous occasions, felt like nothing, used for money in more than one occasion, abandoned, almost cheated on, and it's not healthy. He also did bad things to Courtney but that was cheating and verbal abuse. He'd also mentioned girl would usually hit him and since he was in a time where he needed attention, he'd been fixated that Courtney would give it to him. She had given before but like he wants to go back to that toxic environment. When he was given attention by Gwen, he didn't feel like it but when he wasn't, I guess it made him feel worthless. That wasn't Gwen's fault though. This paragraph sounds stupid but it's hard to explain in depth.
Also, it seemed like Duncan still liked Gwen as during Sierra's elimination in TDAS, he was asking to make more Gwuncan videos.
This is not Gwen slander because she probably felt ever-so drained by her boyfriend-kisser status, trying to make amends with Courtney, and overall try getting everyone off her back. And thus, forming guilt.
And that guilt was stopping her from having a good time with her boyfriend on the show.
Because on the show, she was definitely thinking about all this stuff.
Actually, when she wasn't thinking about her boyfriend-kisser/Courtney drama, she was quite happy. Like when Duncan was hit with a bobytrap when he was going over to congratulate her or when she was finally forgiven. Because she cleared up her conscious.
But like, Gwen was definitely irritated by everything so when Duncan was doing gestures like blowing a kiss or something, she ignored it.
Their development.
It took them 3 SEASONS to get together. Is that not enough development? Do you need them to delay it by a couple more years or something? 10 years?
But there is also their development from season 1-2. There don't have to interact only on camera. Their friendship could've expanded away from the show. I mean, there was the stargazing scene which was probably the starting point of their little crushes so there would've probably expanded after season 1.
Maybe I am delving too deep as it is a cartoon show but like people are saying they didn't develop properly.
If they didn't develop properly, they wouldn't have been open to the other. And if you're wondering how they were open, I'll list 2 from the top of my head.
-Relationships (Gwen confides Duncan about Trent [Canon] and he did to her. [The picture of Courtney under his pillow])
-Family (Gwen told Duncan her brother's guitar. Why would she say that? Because she trusts him [Not about the guitar. Like deeper conversations] and they probably talk about their family.)
-Dreams (Duncan knew Gwen's dream car. Maybe they talk about the future and what they want to become and what they want to do with life)
-Crimes (They confessed their sins back in TDI and would've spoken about it as Gwen seemed curious about Duncan's crime record from the horror episode)
-There is probably more but I can't remember as I haven't watched the show in a while (A couple of months)
You don't talk about these stuff with someone who has similar aesthetics to you. You talk about it with people you trust. They trust each other.
Lack of chemistry.
I disagree because I do believe they have chemistry. Not every relationship's chemistry is yelling at the top of their lungs and then sucking their tongue down the other's throat. It's different and simple.
And just because your prejudice against the ship, doesn't mean it's blocking everyone's perspective.
So if you do see someone who likes Gwuncan, leave them the fuck alone. Stop hating because no one cares, alright? Thank you.
If they're happy with the relationship, it works.
If they're comfortable around each other, it works.
If it's healthy (The good outweigh the bad), it works.
Gwen and Duncan do have a healthy relationship but are surrounded in drama. If they were not, people would like them. But because poor (Not.) Courtney got hurt, everyone hates them. Aw, almost sounds like she got her karma. :)
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I know I've stated a lot of these before and probably sound like a broken recording player or whatever, but I need to restate them because anti-Gwuncan don't even try to explain the problem and just say they're toxic because of the cheating.
I'm not saying Duncney, Gwourtney and Gwent are bad (Actually, I am but if you don't annoy me, I won't say it to you), but like those who slander Gwuncan need to stfu. I'm only making these types of post to compensate for the amount of hate my ship received. (Even though those ships deserved more)
If I see more, my future post is going to be pointing out every flaw in those ships and if you don't that, don't promote Gwuncan hate.
On another note, don't slander or be like 'I like them better as friends.' on a page where the person supports the ship. Like, it gets annoying and they probably might say 'Oh, I respect your opinion.', but that's so they don't start fights because god, you guys are aggressive and extremely rude. (No evidence either)
I just need to talk about how unfair Gwen's eliminations have been in every season.
Season 1: She wasn't even the flipping canon winner like what the hell. Like in season one, it was her season. Gwen was doing so well and had won the most challenges in one season according to the wiki page and as everyone says, 'this was her only good season'. That was not but I'll write about that later. Anyways like, this would've been the perfect thing to prove all the players wrong when they all chose Owen for their own selfish reasons (A party). But no. They made her lose and she is an alternate winner. Wtf.
Season 2: God, I don't even know where to start. How did she owe Trent's team? It was clearly Trent's fault that he was going all crazy and somehow she was responsible for that. The girl had gotten so annoyed and uncomfortable that she broke up with the guy. Justin knew that but somehow it was still her fault. Like if you want her to be eliminated just not as stupid as that because she didn't owe anything. And like I actually can't stand Leshawna after season one because why would you listen to Heather? Oh, because Gwen hit him with a shovel? Did you try to talk to her? I bet she didn't even know about the break-up. I also can't stand Trent. He pisses me off so much in the aftermath.
Season 3: Now, in season one, Courtney went all out complaining, crying, whinging about her unfair elimination which she deserved. She wasn't that nice, generous person. But somehow she was permitted to join season 2. Now to season 3, Gwen had to do a tie-breaker in something she was allergic to. And she was just off the hook like that? 'Oh but that was her karma.' Bro, that's too far. Allergies? Courtney did 2 seasons worth of shit and all she received was her boyfriend cheating on her. Gwen did one bad thing and was hated by the whole cast, hated by the viewers (You guys), and had an unfair elimination. I wouldn't even be annoyed if Gwen came back the next season acting like Courtney in season 2 because like why couldn't the tie-breaker be something she isn't allergic to. Is that so hard to do? It was so unfair and was definitely too far since Courtney was also going to cheat on Duncan, her boyfriend, in front of him with Justin. (She was going to kiss Justin in the princess episode) Did she get her karma? No.
Season 5: This season, Gwen had been acting a bit odd but she still shouldn't be hated because I say so. Anyways, she made it far this time (Luckily) and was doing so well until that challenge. Why was smart trying to fix it. Chris wouldn't have even noticed until Gwen admitted it. No way that was worth eliminating because she was creative with it at least and didn't even look bad. Scott and Mike/Mal didn't even come with anything and somehow she was the one taking the boot. That season sucked ass because of the break-up and how the show only cared about Mal and Zoey. Like if they really wanted Mal to win then just make him win not something as stupid as this. Gwen could've made it to the finale the second time if she wasn't eliminated for this dumb thing.
Now time to defend her.
'Season 1 was her only good season!' The fuck, no. She just became more involved with people like Courtney, Duncan, and Trent. The only drama Gwen had been in was with Heather but it wasn't big drama.
In season 2, she was dragged into it with Duncan and Trent. That breakup. That incredibly stupid break-up. Not because I'm a Gwent shipper but because Gwen was visibly uncomfortable and everyone took Trent's side. Why? I don't even know. Aw, poor Trent. Gwen broke-up with him. HE RUINED IT FOR HIMSELF. And the guy looked like he had some issues so maybe it was right that he wasn't in a relationship at the time. And with Duncan. They didn't come out of nowhere. They were slightly hinted throughout Island and it was pretty obvious they would be friends so like, leave them alone. Anyways, don't hate on her because she's still the same person but trying to juggle drama between those three and possibly Leshawna and Heather.
In season 3, I will agree that what she did was wrong but it's unfair that everyone is only mad at Gwen for the situation. Courtney drove Duncan away and practically already ruined their never-lasting relationship and Duncan made it official by cheating. Like, be mad at them. Leave Gwen alone because you're acting as if she wasn't feeling guilty. She was and if you're mad at her you have to be mad at everyone else who'd cheated such as Bridgette, Lindsay, Trent, Beth, and whoever else cheated in the show. But they didn't hurt Courtney's feelings, right? Well, in Island, Heather was snuggling on Duncan. This was Courtney and Duncan's relationship prime time. Why was he allowing it? Why was he flirting with Heather? Why isn't Heather shamed for her actions, huh? Oh, because it's strategy. You guys just don't like real love, huh? Because Gwen and Duncan really did love each other and they didn't have to say it to prove it, alright?
In season 5, as I've said before, she changed. You know why, because of stupid fans trying to bash a cartoon character. It's been a decade or whatever since the show and people are still riled up over the cheating. What the actual fuck? And to make things worse, Gwen probably lost all her friends which she did not deserve at all because everyone on the show acted like that. So yes, Gwen did act desperate to be friends with Courtney. The guilt in the two years gap between season 3 and 5 would've eaten her up and she was probably one of the only people who apologised. But no, she was annoying and desperate. Why is it fair that every character who'd cheated or was the homewrecker was forgiven except for Gwen?
Also, in the show she said that Courtney and Duncan weren't together at the time. Don't you ever think that maybe they weren't together? Maybe they were together due to contracts and forced or anything could happen. Gwen wouldn't lie about that and yes, she did say that she kissed Courtney's boyfriend. I think that was in season 3 she said that and maybe she wasn't allowed to say it was a contract relationship or whatever but was still feeling guilty about kissing him. And maybe since it's been 2 years, she was allowed to claim that their relationship wasn't an actual relationship but gave up and said she kissed her boyfriend since facing the facts weren't going anywhere. Strange, right?
Anyways, Gwen was good in every season she was on but was dragged into more drama. And maybe that's why she was different. Funny what thinking does to a person, huh?
Hopefully, people stop bashing Gwen and give her a chance because out of all the characters in the show, she didn't deserve it. However, if you think not, then block me and don't talk to me because I despise Courtney/Duncney fans. Well, the annoying ones and I've only spoken to annoying ones but if you think you're a decent one, please share your opinion RESPECTFULLY. I've never had issues with Gwent/Trent fans, but the same thing goes to you guys too.
Gwen, Heather, Duncan is such an underrated trio. Where is their fandom?
So like, imagine if they had an alliance in World Tour if Duncan didn't quit. They all would've been on the same team and would've easily become the best trio. Better than the one with Courtney. That's for sure.
What's their trio name gonna be? I'd say Gweathcan
If you've ever written Izzy and she sounds exactly like she does on the show, (And u didn't just copy the dialogue) then you've succeeded in writing. As in you're like the best writer ever because why is she so hard to write about?