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@eightiesbyler
I’m a few years older than the Duffer brothers. Of course Stranger Things feels like home to me. But I love the characters most.
Will and Mike were my favorites from the beginning. I relate to Will in a bunch of ways. Quiet. Creative. Nerdy. Honest. Supportive. When very young, called “sensitive”—a plea, sometimes an accusation. Read as gay. Survivor of bullying and abuse. Feeling unseen. Convinced there must be something wrong with me.
Mike’s love for Will, platonic or not, was sweet and wholesome. I loved how Mike was so tender and protective. They both flourished in that dynamic. I’ve been lucky to have that a couple times in my life and it was wonderful.
The writers did Will and Mike dirty. Don’t get me wrong, I mostly loved the concluding season, despite all the pointless, even malicious, loose ends. I’m not loud, but I shouted and cheered when Will broke those Demogorgons. But how could they end Will and Mike’s stories like that?
I’m supposed to accept that Will was repeatedly abused his entire childhood, convinced by Vickie and Vecna to get over his lifelong love within a mere couple days, coerced into coming out, and the best future we can imagine for him is meeting someone at a bar? His friend—no way… best friend!—doesn’t see him sharing his art with the world? There’s no chance Will might illustrate Mike’s stories?
Like it or not, it’s no coincidence such a large number of us read Mike as repressed: it’s the most charitable explanation for his actions. Now I’m supposed to accept that Mike was a piece of shit to his best friend and girlfriend for no reason? Because it’s not like he learned anything, ever, in the entire series. Even after Hopper counseled him to respect Jane’s autonomy and accept her decision, he didn’t. He couldn’t even imagine telling her he loved her!
I’m worried about the wider implications. Mike: It’s OK to never grow as a person, but to spend the rest of your life reminiscing until you turn into a sentimental version of your emotionally deadbeat parent. Will: If you’re queer, it’s OK if your friend treats you badly sometimes for no reason. The best you can hope for is moving to a new city and finding new friends. Don’t even daydream about reciprocated love.
To say nothing of the implication that sometimes the only way a teenager (Jane/El) can end the cycle of abuse is by suicide.
But, just… how they wrote Will and Mike makes me deeply sad. It reminds me of beautiful friendships I’ve lost and my deep fear that, because of who I am, I may never find something like them again, or anything that lasts.
And their double standards for straight and gay couples is ridiculous.
They say none of their crushes ever worked out, so it's more realistic that Will not end up with Mike.
Except Lucas and Max, who met at 13 and got together as a crush and are implied to stay together.
Except Mike and El, who met at 12, before El even knew what a friend was, let alone a boyfriend, and had a crush that led to a train wreck relationship, but are implied to have been truly in love before tragedy separated them.
And don't even get me started on Robin and Vickie breaking up off screen after getting together off screen. I wish conformitygate were true just to explain her absence being the result of Mike not knowing anything about her.
But, no, the Duffers just plain don't hold gay people to the same level of regard as they do straight people. And they hide behind "realism" as an excuse despite that not stopping them from some utterly ridiculous story elements.
Oh my god.
yeah bro my love for you is intrinsically woven into the very fabric of the narrative and is continuously the reason i find it within myself to keep on fighting and has actually empowered me to save myself and many others on multiple occasions but it’s fine if you don’t like me back or whatever
will saying “I don’t like girls” and then the scene cutting to show mike gulping is diabolical btw. I just know this boy had the rain fight flashing before his eyes.
You're telling me that Mike "The Heart" Wheeler would sit there completely unmoving as his best friend sobs in front of him and makes direct reference to a fight they had when they were 13 in which Mike's words deeply hurt him? That's what you want me to believe? Is it crack? Is that what you smoke?
in the context of the van scene, if they genuinely wrote mike taking will's love for him to use it to express his "love" for el, only for it to have no pay off is just so cruel to will's character. will byers you deserved the world and more.
i'm still at the fucking restaurant because what do you mean more. WHERE.
Mike needs to know how painfully in love Will was with him, otherwise he gets away with making Will feel so horrible about himself and completely contradicts their entire relationship.
Will destroyed castle byers (implicitly) because of him. Will sacrificed his own feelings to try and save Mike's relationship because all he wanted was to make Mike feel needed. why does Mike deserve to never have to feel the guilt of that?
it is true that it isn't Mike's fault will doesn't like girls. but it also isn't Will's fault that he ended up falling in love with the one person who he felt truly saw him. Will was repeatedly being treated like shit by Mike and STILL said that Mike makes him feel like he's not a mistake. so why does Will have to bear the weight of all of that by himself?
Just invite the entire town of Hawkins while we're at it
And if that mother fucking painting isn't addressed tomorrow i think we should all just k
so i think we should all k
And if that mother fucking painting isn't addressed tomorrow i think we should all just k
stonathan has so much potential the duffers are just cowards
forever thinking about what could've been 💔
i cant believe hellfire mike from s4ep1 is canon and not some like thing we made up. thats not a headcanon/fanon. we got mike wheeler with a mullet and angry scowl and black jeans and chucks with a superiority complex about being a weird loser freak
Oh hellfire mike what you were to my 16 yo self...
i love that jonathan called that boy a chauvinistic meathead. 🩷
Toxic stonathan came home to me💗
Also shoutout Will Byers skilled flirter because the way to get him from "you're kinda Vecna" to "you're the magic we need" IS to say "oh, so I'm evil" with the subtext of correct me correct me correct me correct me.
That's the move dude. That's the best way to get there without outright saying "tell me how wonderful you think I am". Nailed it, kid, first try.
reminder that they have each other now