Sad i•laim Edhellin

In this blog, we lemmethryn share our ancient knowledge on Elvish with the rest of the Children of Eru. We call you by your right names, speak your words with our wise tongues, and mark them with the symbols of old.

[eledhren]

Moved, Again, Kind of.

Greetings.

We are (obviously) absent for quite a while, since all our members lost interest in maintaining this blog. I (Elaran, as always), too, am not an active Tumblr user anymore, even with my main blog. However, I’ve found that reddit is a lot easier for me to answer any questions or other such requests. I was made a moderator to /r/Sindarin shortly after I joined, and I’ve been helping the folk ever since.

Here, even in our most active times, you needed to wait for days before getting an answer, but all my replies on /r/Sindarin took less than a day, usually just a few hours. As the only member of the Lambengolmor actively helping with translation requests, I invite you to /r/Sindarin if you need proper translations.

• Elaran

[eledhren]

Hello! Would you mind translating title 'Stormborn' into Elvish? Thanks in advance!

Hey! It should be:

Alagonnen - Stormborn / given birth by the storm

Alagenien - Stormborn / born by the storm

Gilorn

[eledhren]

Heyy i was wondering if you can you translate this for me in Sindarin: "The lord is my light and my salvation. Whom shall i fear?" I know maybe is difficult , but please?

Hello and here you go:

Eru i galad ah i edraith nîn, i gostathon?

Gilorn

[eledhren]

Hii! I wondered if you guys coud confirm 'Ann' means gift in Sindarin. My name is Ann and i was very exited when i found out. Also some say it also means 'grace', do you know it this is true? And if it is not to much to ask could you write it in Tengwar for me? Thanks :))) great blog btw

Well, yes, ann, or ant, is “gift” in sindarin, depending on dialect, I suppose. 

Yours, Gilorn

[eledhren]

Hello! I was wondering if you would be able to please translate "wing giver" or "giver of wings" into Sindarin, and what it would look like in Tengwar. Thank you!

Ravnoneth, Rovaloneth feminine

Ravnonor, Fovalonor neutral/genderless

Ravnonon, Ravnenir, Rovalenir masculineIn all cases stress is on the second vowel, so RAvnoneth, RovAloneth. 

Ravn is wing, Roval is a large wing, like an eagle’s. 

I don’t do the transcribing. Elaran may do it later. 

Yours, Gilorn

[eledhren]

hi, can you please tell me the correct script for both 'not all those who wonder are lost, all that is gold does not glitter' and 'home is behind, the world is ahead' please as I want them both tattooed in script next week. thank you!

Ili mallen ú-dinna,Ú-'wanwenil i randir; Alex’s translation

Bar adel, núf i Ardhon. /Gilorn

[eledhren]

hello! i was wondering if there was a sindarin word for "thunder"? thank you!

Greetings! In fact, we have no special attested word for 'thunder' anywhere: apparently this is one of the lexical spots Tolkien actually missed…

However, I have good news: there is a word funda- in Parma Eldalamberon 16, which was tentatively interpreted per editors as a verb 'to thunder'. Assuming the derivation from a stem like *PHUD, Helge Fauskanger updated it into hunda- which yielded further a gerund *hundië, 'a thunder, thundering'.

This was used by Fauskanger in his Bible translations; such a word would result in *funnad 'thunder' in Sindarin. A guess as good as any other…

~ Alexander

[eledhren]

Hello there! I was wondering if you lovely folks could help me translate the phrase 'Toujours Pur' from Harry Potter into Sindarin (or Quenya, I'm not picky). It's French, and the English translation is 'Always Pure'. If it helps, they're talking about keeping their blood pure. Thank you so much!

Greetings! I’ll do both:

Quenya: Poica tenn’ oio.

Sindarin: Puig ui.

Visit us again if you want Tengwar transcriptions!~ Alexander

[eledhren]

Hi guys! I have another phrase to challenge you with: "A dragons will be done" No tengwar necessary unless it tickles your fancy. Thank you!

Hello! Funnily enough, the wording of your request is very much similar to the one Tolkien himself used when translating the Lord’s Prayer. So, why not rephrase them?Quenya: Na carë indómë Hlócëo.Sindarin: Caro den i•innas Lhûg. (though it was a draft, and I believe No carnen i•innas Lhûg could have been better and less ambiguous.)

~ Alexander

[eledhren]

Hi, sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could help my friend. He would like a tattoo with the phrase 'Peace is a lie, there is only passion' (from Star Wars) written in elvish, but he can't seem to find the right transcription. Apparently, the translation should be 'Rainē huru ná, ëa er írë'. So would you know maybe how to write it right? Thank you so much & have a nice day :)

Greetings! You’ve done amazing work with Quenya, even found the extrapolation huru made by Helge Fauskanger! The only addition I can make is that now, from PE22, we have an attested word for ‘only’, rië, so:

Rainë huru ná, ëa írë rië.

~ Alexander

[eledhren]

Could you possibly translate a few names for me? -Keana (meaning ancient) -Michelle (meaning gift from God) And my sisters name -Samantha (meaning listener) Thank you so much <3

Iaur; ancient, old.

This word exist in a name in The Return of the King, in the form Ioreth, from a contracted iaur –> ior + eth, a feminine ending. Thus Ioreth, Iorien, Ioril as feminine forms, and Ioron as masculine form. Also Iornis, Iorves for “old/ancient woman” and “Iorwen” for “old maid”, and “Iordir, Iorven” for “old man, old husband” and Iorphen for “old person”.

Eruan, of Eru (God) + ant (gift).

Lathra- and lasta- are words for “listen”; the former can also be interpreted as “to eavesdrop”. Thus I propose the following names:

Lathril, feminine, Lastor, neutral, Lathron, masculine. Also Lastanir/Lathranir, “listener (man)”, Lastanis/Lathranis, “listener (woman)”.

Gilorn

[eledhren]

Hi, this might sound a little complicated but if you could help me you would be stars! Please could you translate the word 'twenty' into quenya and sindarin for me please? And if possible please could I get an image of how these would look in tengwar? I think the number '20' is the same in both elvish languages but would it also be possible to have an image of that in tengwar too? This is for a tattoo, if you reply thank you thank you xx!

Greetings! It is always such a challenge to discuss the numerals! As I see, your question is two-fold. The answer to the first, ‘How to say twenty in Quenya and Sindarin’, is strictly “We have no explicit sources”. But from what we know about the Eldarin numerals in general, it is safe to conclude that:

Sindarin tadphae (tad 'two’ + phae 'ten’), tadphaenui 'twentieth’;

Quenya yúquain (yú 'both, pair’ + quean 'ten’), yúquainëa 'twentieth’. [Helge Fauskanger actually uses _yúquean_, but I’m sure the shortened form _quain_ is made specifically for the longer compounds.]

The second part, 'How to write 20 in Eldarin digits’, can only be shown in picture! These are the possible ways:

This is the normal Eldarin duodecimal number expression, literally '8-1’, that is, 8*1+1*12 (Elvish numbers are written right-to-left, from the largest valued to the lowest)

And if you wish to follow the practice of Middle-Earth Men and use the Elvish digits to write decimally as we do, then this is '0-2’, that is, 0*1+2*10.

~ Alexander

[eledhren]

hello, I had a question! I was searching for a word equivalent to "unyielding" in Sindarin, and I'm coming up empty-handed. is there such a word?

Hello! What meaning of the word do you need exactly? 'Unyeilding' can be a positive characteristic, 'resisting, enduring, steadfast, faithful', which can be easily rendered by synonyms such as breniol 'enduring', bôr 'steadfast' In the meaning of 'hard, stubborn, tough', it may easily be rendered by dorn 'tough, stiff, resistant' or even tarch, tarlang 'obstinate, proud, stiff-necked' if the word is supposed to be an insult. There is much variance to choose from!~ Alexander

[eledhren]

Hello there! Can you guys help me translate the phrase 'We shine not burn'? It's the motto of the MacKenzie clan. Maybe transcribe if it's not too much trouble? Thanks so much!

Hello! As you asked for a Quenya answer as preferred, here it is:Calilmë, lá naryalmë [shine-aor.-we, not fire-intr.-aor.-we].*narya ‘to burn’ from NAR ‘fire’ (cf. Q. Lexicon urya, Q. orya 'to rise’ [intr.])In Sindarin, it may be rendered in this way (not an exact translation, but more emphatic):Calif, ú-neriof [shine-we, cannot-fire-intr.-we]; that is, 'we are unable to burn, it is not possible for us to burn’.~ Alexander

[eledhren]

Well, UR is reassigned to ‘hot’, hence urya 'to blaze, to be hot’ (PE17:148) — not really fit for 'burning’. However, the derivational pattern of noun verbalizing is well-known.

~ Alexander

[eledhren]

Hello there! Can you guys help me translate the phrase 'We shine not burn'? It's the motto of the MacKenzie clan. Maybe transcribe if it's not too much trouble? Thanks so much!

Hello! As you asked for a Quenya answer as preferred, here it is:Calilmë, lá naryalmë [shine-aor.-we, not fire-intr.-aor.-we].*narya ‘to burn’ from NAR 'fire’ (cf. Q. Lexicon urya, Q. orya 'to rise’ [intr.])In Sindarin, it may be rendered in this way (not an exact translation, but more emphatic):Celif, ú-neriof [shine-we, cannot-fire-intr.-we]; that is, 'we are unable to burn, it is not possible for us to burn’.~ Alexander

[eledhren]

Concerning Tengwar

Hello everyone! You may have noticed the Tengwar explosion in our blog today. I (Elaran) was away for a few weeks and my companions had no way of making Tengwar pictures like the ones I make. And even if I was present, I would still be slower to respond to Tengwar requests because it needs much more work than just writing here.

Thus, we wanted to warn you about our general lateness with Tengwar requests. If the Tengwar is optional but quick answers are needed, then we suggest you come back later with the phrase we translated and ask for the transcription. This way, you can get your translation results much quicker and have the transcription later on.

For those who are not familiar with the terminology, Tengwar is the well known Elvish alphabet. Quenya and Sindarin are the two main Elvish languages. And I want to add that we cannot “translate” into alphabets, nor “transcribe” into languages. When someone asks us to do these, we get confused and try to do all of them at once! Resulting with very slow responses.

For now, I think we’re able to keep up with your requests, so keep them coming! Novael!

•Elaran

[eledhren]

Hello lovelies! Could I ask for a translation of "Chase the morning, yield for nothing"? Perhaps also a transcription into tengwar if it's not too much trouble? Thank you very much! <3

Ruido i•aur, cúo an allad. [Chase the-daylight, bow to no-thing.]

*ruida- “to chase”

*cúa- “to bow”

*allad “nothing” (ala-nad)

~ Alexander