I feel like a big thing people get into when writing Jason Todd is that he's mad the Joker is still alive and mad he's been replaced. Which is fair as those are a huge part of what drives him earlier in his post resurrection days. But what they also tend to do when writing him is explain away both things then act as if his whole argument easily falls apart with context.
You see a lot of fics go "no batman didn't immediately replace you, Tim fought him for that, he didn't actually want another Robin" and "Batman was going to kill joker but batman can't kill, he still cares about you" and then Jason starts doubting his reasoning or whatever but like I feel like that wasn't the main point???
Was Jason mad he was replaced? Abso-fucking-lutley. Was Jason mad that the Joker was still alive? Yes fucking furious. But that never felt like the main point to me. To me it was the fact that, especially from the outside, his death changed nothing.
He looks back into what's happening in Gotham and sees not only that there's a new Robin but that the Joker had gotten out again. The newspaper headline he sees could quite literally be one from his Robin days because that's how little things have changed. Not only is there another child running around in the same outfit fighting crime but he's literally fighting the same exact man that got him killed.
Not only is the joker not dead but he's still escaping fairly regularly. The security wasn't even beefed up after his death.
And that means his death meant nothing.
His death didn't better the world, his death didn't even change anything. Nothing better came from him dying, there was no greater cause. He simply died.
Gonna slap these tags here cause they're good. True, the fact everyone had Feelings™ about Jason's death doesn't negate ANY of the things he's truly angry about. And it's also kinda stupid to expect it to. Batman is about a man who decided the world was shit and throwing money at the problem wouldn't fix it fast enough to prevent people from being harmed so he needed to take immediate action, but somehow when his own son dies he's supposed to be satisfied with being told "it's the thought that counts! :) "
I've said it before and I'll say it again, but I don't think Jason would be mad about Joker being alive if Joker was a) safely contained and b) wasn't hurting people anymore. MAYBE he'd still be a little miffed, but he would not be as angry if no person had been hurt by the Joker's hand after his death(& because of his death). The main issue isn't that the Joker's alive per se but that he's still hurting people (well technically joker will always break out of prison and hurt ppl so he will hurt as long as he's alive bc comics~ but Jason doesn't KNOW that) if you didn't get that then you must have read utrh w your eyes closed I'm sorry.

















