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[cryptid-corpse]

How will you cope with today?

Dissociate

Go missing Under mysterious circumstances

Crawl back into yourself alone

[ophanic]

real

[cambriancrew]

Sigh.

Cmon, antis.

"Having other people in your head isn't normal"

Duh, no one is saying that it's normal.

We're saying it's not pathological.

Plenty of abnormal things aren't a disorder.

[evieri]

plenty of abnormal things aren’t a disorder 

[evieri]

did you know you actually don’t have to have a diagnosable mental illness in order to have vibrant unique quirky interesting valid internal experiences?

[valtsv]

i'm neither an enjoyer nor a hater i interact with things in a third worse way

[delgado-master]

Hot take: endogenic systems are not excluded from the DID diagnosis. You are literally excluding people with DID by saying “no endogenic systems”

[evieri]

my only problem with this is endogenic systems, while real and valid,.. are not perfectly aligned with did/osdd diagnoses. they do not fit the diagnostic criteria. simply put. and if they do, they are probably not endogenic, or not entirely endogenic. entirely consciously created systems (including parotraumagenic systems) are almost entirely *non-disordered* even if they are traumagenic. a system being non-disordered does not make it any less valid nor does it necessarily make it endogenic or non-traumagenic. disorderedness is defined and measured by how intrusive it is in daily life. for instance, while my system is traumagenic, it also formed cognitively and plays to my advantage in daily life to this day because it is designed to regulate and filter emotions by cycling through different emotional capacities.

also, the mechanism behind most endogenic systems and even many traumagenic systems is very very different from classical did. the clinical definition and understanding of systems is extremely limited to a very specific point on a very specific axis on the spectrum of structural dissociation and to try to push endogenic systems into a clinical box is honestly doing them a disservice (no offence op). 

tl;dr: did/osdd diagnoses offer an extremely deceptively flat understanding of system structures and really only recognize one very specific class of disordered systems. the dsm is outdated as shit and please do not rely on it for your validity, holy shit.

[acreaturecalledgreed]

the concept and idea of “you can always start trying to be a better person” is extremely important to me both in media and irl and i continue to be deeply deeply disturbed by the trend on this site pushing that these ideas in media are bad writing or even morally reprehensible

because theyd rather someone stay terrible or just straight up die than become a better person 

from a compassionate point of view it’s deeply distressing and from a pragmatic point of view it’s outright frustrating

it’s fucked up. 

[falliblefabrial]

What is the most important step a man can take?

The next.

[inklesspen]

[babblingfishes]

I think part of the pushback about this is the idea that, to “redeem” bad people, their victims must first forgive them for unforgivable acts.

This is false. No one is obligated to forgive you. You can learn from your mistakes and become the best, kindest person on earth, and the people you’ve hurt still won’t forgive you, and you’ll have to accept that. And that doesn’t mean you aren’t allowed to grow. Because we aren’t just “pure” or “sinful”, we’re complex.

[evieri]

i’m tired of the misinformation being spread online.

the truth? DID is not performative. it is largely internal. switches usually are not super dramatic, alters do not have to think and act drastically different from each other in order to be separate alters, and not every alter needs to have a 100% consistent pattern of behavior. co-fronting and co-conning is common, lines are blurred, it’s not as black and white as the little people in your phone make it out to be. it is not always obvious when someone has DID & it is not always obvious when a switch has happened. lots of systems are designed to be covert for protective reasons. alters can impersonate the host. alters can have similar voices. lots of systems use i/me pronouns by default. masking is a real thing. DID absolutely is a spectrum and every system is different. a covert expression of symptoms is valid and acceptable and even normal. you don’t need to be aware of every one of your alters, it’s ok to confuse different alters and not always interpret things perfectly, not everyone has a headspace or functional communication with the rest of their system. alters may have varying levels of understanding of their system. it is not all cut and dry. you don’t have to know everything about your system, you don’t need to be super attuned to your inner world. it isn’t always like that.

when you pretend to have DID and create a caricature of it based on the most publicized symptoms, you are harming a very vulnerable group of people with a very highly stigmatized disorder. just stop.

[unknown-lost-system]

THIS. it is a VERY internal and covert illness. I wish people who don’t have it would understand that. I’m not going to ‘perform’ for you to believe me. I already know what’s going on inside of me.

that’s not to say, of course, that diagnosis is invalid, or that we don’t want to act like ourselves. Getting diagnosed is very valid and important, at least for us. And, we all want to be ourselves around those we trust. It’s just that being in the same body makes that difficult.

what I’m trying to say is that most people don’t appreciate what DID/OSDD actually looks like.

(kind of turns into a rant about here lol)

:readmore:

I have a hard time telling what/when my switches are. it just happens and it can happen seamlessly. It’s not that often when we notice it, unless we are having a bad experience of some kind that requires a rapid switch. we are very good at acting like each other, especially because that’s how the disorder works. it’s a coping strategy. if other people noticed you acting different then you probably wouldn’t be as safe as you needed to be.

I’m greatful that we are subtle, it would be even harder for us to function socially if we couldn’t 'disguise’ ourselves, so to speak.

that’s not to say that we don’t all love each other or that we don’t like being multiple. We just don’t like being foggy, dissociated, unfocused, confused, exhausted… all the time (not to mention the trauma attached)

I hate having to act as the host when out in public. I really want to be 'myself’. I hope one day we can live our lives out as multiple so we can each be ourselves,, but at the moment that isn’t possible and it’s hard-wired into each of us.

LOL this was totally a rant,, apologies.

anyways thanks for reading I guess??? have a good day lolll

[evieri]

i’m tired of the misinformation being spread online.

the truth? DID is not performative. it is largely internal. switches usually are not super dramatic, alters do not have to think and act drastically different from each other in order to be separate alters, and not every alter needs to have a 100% consistent pattern of behavior. co-fronting and co-conning is common, lines are blurred, it’s not as black and white as the little people in your phone make it out to be. it is not always obvious when someone has DID & it is not always obvious when a switch has happened. lots of systems are designed to be covert for protective reasons. alters can impersonate the host. alters can have similar voices. lots of systems use i/me pronouns by default. masking is a real thing. DID absolutely is a spectrum and every system is different. a covert expression of symptoms is valid and acceptable and even normal. you don’t need to be aware of every one of your alters, it’s ok to confuse different alters and not always interpret things perfectly, not everyone has a headspace or functional communication with the rest of their system. alters may have varying levels of understanding of their system. it is not all cut and dry. you don’t have to know everything about your system, you don’t need to be super attuned to your inner world. it isn’t always like that.

when you pretend to have DID and create a caricature of it based on the most publicized symptoms, you are harming a very vulnerable group of people with a very highly stigmatized disorder. just stop.

[the-moonlight-collective]

I’ll add to this because there’s a petition on change.org right now to stop the spread of OSDDID misinformation, and have the new AppleTV + series “The Crowded Room” be canceled.

If you’re unaware, The Crowded Room stars Milligan, a man with Dissociative Identity Disorder (the same man the movie “Split” is based on). Milligan is portrayed as a criminal mastermind, in court for murder that he is later acquitted of due to his “other personality” that he seemingly has no control over. This marks the second major time in media that systems have been portrayed as “evil” or “dangerous”.

The petition currently has 30,000+ signatures. If you’d like to sign it, you can do so here

[vriskasupremecy-deactivated2025]

The host last year -(?)

[immaterialclub]

you are still a valid system if...

you don’t know all your system members, how many there are, or whether some system members actually are separate or are also you

you don’t know your system members’ roles, or your system doesn’t identify with roles

you can’t clearly differentiate between/see your system members in headspace, or you don’t have a headspace

you can’t clearly differentiate between members in front/tell who’s fronting or when you switch

you don’t have a system name

you use i/me pronouns

you don’t present differently or have distinct ways of talking/typing from each other

switching feels less like your body is being taken over and more like the state of who you “are” is changing into someone else

your system members feel more like different parts or versions of the host than entire people

you can’t tell whether a new system member split or you’re dealing with an unstable sense of identity

you can’t switch at will or communicate with your system members

you are unable to make a list, set up coherent profiles on tumblr or pluralkit for your whole system, or similar.

we’ve seen these expectations placed on systems online, and people dealing with impostor syndrome because their system doesn’t fit the expectations. but none of it is actually required to be a system. 

the main part of dissociative disorders, after all, is dissociation. many systems experience confusion, because the dissociation is part of what makes them a system. and since dissociative disorders develop as a trauma response, it’s actually extremely common that system members aren’t obviously distinct from each other, since splitting in the first place is the brain’s attempt at a survival tactic. it just usually isn’t as clear-cut as the online community makes it out to be.

it’s okay to not know. it’s okay to be unsure. having a disorder doesn’t mean you have to know everything about how it works and what’s going on in your head.

this post is for traumagenic systems only. it’s based specifically around dissociative disorders.

[evieri]

i reject the concept that you can conflate narcissists with abusers simply because your abuser was a narcissist.

[pathcend]

It's true though.

[evieri]

i’m tired of the misinformation being spread online.

the truth? DID is not performative. it is largely internal. switches usually are not super dramatic, alters do not have to think and act drastically different from each other in order to be separate alters, and not every alter needs to have a 100% consistent pattern of behavior. co-fronting and co-conning is common, lines are blurred, it’s not as black and white as the little people in your phone make it out to be. it is not always obvious when someone has DID & it is not always obvious when a switch has happened. lots of systems are designed to be covert for protective reasons. alters can impersonate the host. alters can have similar voices. lots of systems use i/me pronouns by default. masking is a real thing. DID absolutely is a spectrum and every system is different. a covert expression of symptoms is valid and acceptable and even normal. you don’t need to be aware of every one of your alters, it’s ok to confuse different alters and not always interpret things perfectly, not everyone has a headspace or functional communication with the rest of their system. alters may have varying levels of understanding of their system. it is not all cut and dry. you don’t have to know everything about your system, you don’t need to be super attuned to your inner world. it isn’t always like that.

when you pretend to have DID and create a caricature of it based on the most publicized symptoms, you are harming a very vulnerable group of people with a very highly stigmatized disorder. just stop.

[some-ghost-we-will-call-i]

ya know. as someone who has, as far as i am aware, not split any new alters since becoming aware of having a dissociative disorder, and yet have gone from 2 to 9 known parts, i think perhaps understanding that existing parts can be discovered at any time would benefit a lot of people, and counter act a lot of the discourse ive seen around how much or little distress is required to split a new part as well as how distressing the actual process of splitting is. not only that, but a lot of people who get "called out for faking" and the people doing the calling out, may not be aware that discovering new parts is possible and could be misattributing the presence of new parts to splitting.

anyway i just think talking about things like this is important because it will help a lot to curb some of the misinformation ive seen being spread around

[justanothersyscourse]

Hot Take

The lives of those with DID/OSDD are actually pretty boring and mundane, all things considered, and it's impossible to make interesting media about us without putting focus on the more demonized and sensationalized aspects and doing more harm than good

[the-rooke-system]

Fun fact about DID:

You don't have to know who's fronting all the time. It's normal to be blurry or just not want to know. It's ok it doesn't make you any less real and it's healthy to not know sometimes.

The culture of alters being distinctly different from one another, be it handwriting, typing style, speech patterns, or anything of that sort. It's unhealthy it causes more boundaries in the system and we should not push the narrative that everyone is going to be distinctly different you can't always tell who's fronting from the outside and that's a good thing.