Due to the limit on pictures on tumblr, we ask that you read the full document here, as it has more screenshots that we could not fit here.
The intent of this post is not to harass the person that’s been discussed, we do not encourage any attack or bullying towards them nor the people associated with Vesperione, this is just a way to bring to light the shady things they’ve done, and to warn people about future interactions with them. Please make your own opinions with the information that will be provided, everything here was gathered and reviewed by 6 anonymous users. If you are someone who had an experience with Vesperione, we encourage you to come forward and share what happened.
The following post documents our evidence that Vesperione is creating an unsafe environment for minors in their Discord server Lunar Productions, formerly known as Slayhan. This is not an accusation of grooming or pedophilia, as we do not have evidence for that. What we do have is a worrying amount of evidence that Vesperione is running a server with minors that is unsafe for them.
Introduction To Vesperione:
This is Vesperione, but they also go by Vez, Dot, and Jay. Currently, they are 19 years old and use they/them pronouns. Their Tumblr account can be found here, their AO3 account here, and their Tiktok account here. (Once more, please do not send them hate. We are trying to inform the public, not start a witch hunt.)
Intro to the server:
Lunar Productions, formerly known as Slayhan, is Vesperione’s Discord server. At the time of making this, it has 42 members and allows both minors and ‘trusted adults’ to join with an age limit of 14-22.
Despite this going against Vez’s rules, there are, in fact, members who are younger than 14 and older than 22. To our knowledge, the youngest member is 13, and the oldest member is 28, as shown here:
NOTE: The names of all users who aren’t Vesperione have been censored to protect their privacy.
In fact, here is a list of the minors in their server.
Server Rules:
The pictures shown above are screenshots of the server rules for Lunar Productions. Let’s take a closer look at a few of them.
‘If you are 18+, please send ID (with everything but significant features for photo verification and ur birthday) to -> Ember (for American IDs) or Dot (any other ID) in DM. You can delete this as soon as the security check has been verified.’
While it is a good idea to confirm the ages of adults, only adults have their ages confirmed, not minors. Meaning that an adult could pretend to be a minor, and no one would know. This is incredibly concerning, as it creates an environment where minors could be groomed by adults.
All readthroughs will be recorded.
All recorded readthroughs will then be put on the Server Unlisted Youtube Channel
For those who don’t know, read-throughs are an event in the Lunar Productions server where they reenact Nightmare Time Episodes and plays. These reenactments are then recorded and posted on Youtube. Adults and minors are allowed to participate in these events. Which means that Vesperione is recording minors and then posting them online. The Youtube channel is unlisted, yes, but unlisted does not mean unreachable, it just means that you need the link to view it. All it takes is for one person to share the link, and then recordings of minors are out for the entire public to see.
For Among Us nights, we will be on Discord. For rounds, cameras and microphones must be turned off until interrogations.
Short film watch parties will take place over discord, but for physical reactions, as has been said continuously since March 2024, your camera must remain on to capture everyone’s first reaction, that is non-negotiable
Cameras should remain an option to switch on and off, especially to minors in the interest of protecting their privacy. Making cameras non-negotiable also silences a minor’s right to exercise consent, something in violation of “advocating for the safety of minors”.
Do not trauma dump in main chats. There is a vent channel for a reason, and mark anything that may be particularly triggering as a spoiler.
In the interest of “advocating for the safety of minors”, a vent channel is not a good idea. The safety of minors would also include teaching them how to not overshare about their personal life. A vent channel does the exact opposite, which would only enforce the minors to be too open with their personal information. Coupled with how ‘trusted adults’ in this server are chosen by the mods (and the mods call themselves “trusted”), minors in this server are not taught how to judge who they can trust with their private information.
Vesperione’s general behaviour:
It isn’t just the server itself that is concerning, but also Vesperione’s own behavior as well. They have repeatedly shown themselves to not be a safe space for minors. Vesperione is organizing a meetup with members of Lunar Productions after ICBIBALLTAY at a British bar known as Wetherspoons. Vesperione has gone on record in the 18+ section of their server saying that, although they intend for the event to be 18+, they don’t want to directly say that minors can’t show up.
Vesperione has shown to be incredibly quick to anger inside Lunar Productions. At the beginning of April, Vesperione realized that somebody that they knew as Ash, now called Lily (who we will touch on later) joined their server. They then realized Lily knew a member of the server and accused them of inviting Lily and deleting evidence. The entire time, they just hadn’t checked the correct channel to see the original evidence. This quick jump to explosive anger is concerning to see in a server full of minors, where they expect a stable adult figure to look up to.
Furthermore, Lunar Productions is currently under lockdown after a minor joined and pretended to be an adult. It is concerning that a minor so easily pretended to be an adult, but unfortunately we do not have all the information on this event, so we will not go into that further. However, despite this lockdown, Vesperione allowed new members to join, just because they are their friends. They claim that these new members are trusted adults, but this is the internet. People can and do lie about their ages. Vez has no actual way of proving if these people are safe.
False Accusations of Grooming:
Meet Lily (Mentioned before), also known as Ash. They’re 21 as of January and a former friend of Vesperione. We interviewed them extensively for this section, read the multiple posts detailing Vesperione’s side, as well as watching every Tiktok they’ve made about Lily. The things said here have been thoroughly researched so as to provide the full story.
Last year, Vesperione made multiple callout posts on their Tumblr accusing Lily of grooming them, which can be found here, here, and here. In this post, they alleged that Lily (Ash), pressured them into an NSFW roleplay when Ash was an adult and Vez was a minor. They included several severely cropped screenshots and encouraged everyone to block their accounts for their own safety.
These are screenshots of the posts linked above, in case they get deleted or modified:
The posts can be read on Tumblr. Again, they are here just in case they disappear or something happens to them.
Now, this is Lily’s side of the story.
Lily and Vesperione met in 2021 when they were both teens (Lily was 17 and Vez was 15) on Instagram and became friends. Eventually, they began roleplaying together, Lily as John MacNamara and Vez as Xander Lee. They agreed ahead of time that these roleplays would not be NSFW in nature, but rather only suggestive, with any mentions of sex leading to a fade to black. They never roleplayed sex. They also had roleplays with Kitt, a friend of Vez’. These roleplays continued until Lily was 19 and Vez was 17, remaining only suggestive/fade to black the entire time.
This picture of a cropped and censored (for safety) image of Lily’s ID, showing their date of birth. We feel the need to clarify their age because Vez has recently been saying that Lily was older than they claimed, and that they lied about their age.
Lily was born in 2004, January 11th. In 2022, Lily would have been 18, and they would have been 18 for the entire year, as they would have turned 18 just 11 days into 2022.
In this screenshot we can also see that Vesperione was very aware of Lily’s actual date of birth. If they had thought Lily was lying at the moment, it was not made clear.
Eventually, their friendship ended. Lily attempted to make a self-deprecating joke about themself in a group chat, Vesperione was upset by the joke and claimed that it was targeted towards them. Lily offered to leave the group chat and, after doing so, they were blocked by Vesperione as well as other members of the group (Images below). That was the last that Lily heard from Vez until the callout posts were made.
The evidence in these videos and posts consists mostly of the same heavily cropped screenshots from the Tumblr posts. These screenshots are maliciously cropped to only show the very most NSFW leaning messages, cut in such a way that it implies the messages led to actually roleplaying sex. When you see the entire conversation thread, it shows that they cut off before any sex scenes happen.
Shown here are some of the maliciously cropped images used to accuse Lily. These messages are taken out of context, and do not show that swiftly after each, the scene halts and skips ahead to some time after any allusion to sexual activity.
Here are some examples of the more complete versions of events. As you can see, individual messages were taken from these conversations, and taken out of context to make it seem as though they lead into, or were directly a part of explicit scenes. Please go to the doc linked above because there's even more evidence there, this was condensed to show the most necessary screenshots.
Another cropped screenshot is of Lily jokingly saying that Vesperione should fuck their phone, cropped where it looks like they are pressuring Vez into doing things they don’t want to do. In reality, the full screenshot is of two teenagers partaking in raunchy humor together, Vesperione giving zero indication of actually being uncomfortable. Liked messages in both versions of the screenshot suggest that Vez understood Lily’s humor, and appreciated it in the moment, before later deciding to use it against them.
Another point Vesperione made to accuse Lily was showing the joke Lily had formulated about “Zipples” with a shared mutual friend between them. These “Zipples” being photoshopped images of male nipples with zippers on top, claiming this to be a predatory act. Claiming someone is a pedophile for a nipple joke is ignorant at best and searching for any excuse under the sun at worst. This wasn’t Lily’s exposed chest, but just random images found online.
UPDATE: Vesperione deleted their tiktok, but we managed to recover one, which you can find on out tiktok here.
A new accusation that was shown in the most recent Tiktok video was Lily showing NSFW drawings towards one of their former friends unprompted. Not only did they both candidly reveal that the artwork was censored, but also that it was a resolved issue caused by miscommunication.
In these screenshots we can see that Lily did join Vesperione’s server, and Vez’s reaction to it. We asked Lily about it and they admitted it wasn’t their best move. They were still hurt, and angry. They make no excuses for this, it was a screw up and it will remain like that. We must clarify that there was no conversation or direct contact with anybody in the Slayhan / Lunar Productions after joining. Lily just wanted to get one over on Vez, as this was before they were aware of Lily’s identity, and therefore the total time they were in the discord server was around 15 seconds.
Conclusion:
In conclusion, Vesperione’s server, Lunar Productions, is an unsafe and toxic environment for minors. From its layout to its concerning rules, Lunar Productions provides an environment that makes it incredibly easy for minors to be groomed. Furthermore, Vesperione’s own behavior, both in and out of the server, has shown to be extremely worrisome on multiple occasions. Once more, we ask you not to send hate to this individual, as it is not our intention to start a witch hunt. We just want to inform the public of what’s happening. All we ask is that you read this in its entirety and come to your own conclusions. If you have a story with Vesperione, we encourage you to reach out, our inbox and DMs are open.
Since the original document was posted, a few people have shared their experiences. Right now, a former member of Slayhan/Lunar productions came with their story regarding the server, Vesperione and the readthroughs. They wish to remain anonymous and we will respect that. Again, please read everything and make your own conclusions.
Before reading their story, we must notify that this member sent us the recordings of the readthroughs in Lunar Productions, the most concerning one is the "Jane's a car" one, since the person who is sharing this story was not only 16 by the time they were participating in the readthrough of Jane's a car, but they acted as the character "Tom", including the sex scene that occurs in that nightmare time episode. The person who acted as Jane was over 18, and other minors were present during the readthrough.
And below here, there will be the screenshots of the readthroughs. We will NOT be sharing the videos since it can be considered a violation of a minor’s privacy, plus, one of these does involve a minor acting out sexual acts.
Again, because other than the anon user, we don’t know who in this call is a minor and who isn’t, everyone’s faces, except Vez’s, are gonna be censored.
The readthrough of “Jane’s a car” was last year, Vesperione would’ve been 18 years old. So, how come that creating a space in which minors perform acting that involves someone having sex with a car (and others would be witness to this) is not creepy but a “Zipple” joke is? Or any better than “fucking my phone charger” joke?
For now, this is all, again, the recordings won’t be shared, but they’re into our possession. This proves how risky it is to record the face's of minors during these, for all it took was one person to share.
Some information was corrected as more people came in contact with us. The girl who played Jane wasn’t over 18, but a minor as well, which means two minors were acting the sex scene of Jane’s a car, not just one. Until we get more information, this is all we’re gonna share.
Vesperione has either privated or deleted their TikTok today aswell.
First of all, we apologize for such delay in approaching the recent events again, also for leaving Asks and DMs unanswered. Despite being 6 people who work on this document, only 2 have access to the Tumblr account, and both of them experienced recent events that made it difficult to attend to the account and this document.
In the last days days, certain events have occurred. Vesperione/Jay/Dot has responded to the document twice using their Tumblr account. These can be found here and here. They also made several TikToks that we have saved to this Google Drive folder due to the TikTok account possibly being deleted again within the next few days. Please read all the information they’ve provided, like we always said, we want you to read every side and form your conclusions.
After their reply, we must address the new accusations they made against Lily/Ash, which, unlike the previous times, were backed up with screenshots showing actual suspicious behavior instead of raunchy humor and teenage jokes.
We interviewed Lily regarding these screenshots since, obviously, in this case, the information is not cropped or manipulated as in the previous cases. Sadly, the answer they provided was not satisfactory. We will share their post here, they didn’t share all the information they had with us until it was too late and those screenshots Vez sent got to us, and even then, their explanation, and the screenshots they use to refute what Vesperione said about Lily/Ash DMing a minor have many holes. Thanks to that, we will not interview them or give them a voice in this document anymore.
Because we found out one of our sources, Lily, was deceptive to us, we retract our previous statements and have since detached ourselves from them. However, they were one of many stories, and the rest are still there. We ask you to please read these stories and not let one act of deception cloud your judgment. Both people can suck at the same time and, this is the case. We apologize for giving them a platform earlier, because Vez’s nonsensical accusations and history of lying, and all the screenshots and proof they showed, we were inclined to believe them.
We are putting a disclaimer at the beginning of the document to point this out, but we will NOT be deleting Ash/Lily’s section despite them no longer being related to us for a couple of reasons:
We don’t want people thinking we’re trying to hide that we used to be in contact and we used to support them. We like to be as transparent as possible.
Despite everything, Vesperione NEVER talked about this 14-year-old minor until the most recent events, but recently pointed out that “they did” and “it was the reason they called Ash a groomer in the first place,” when it wasn’t ever mentioned, and that section also serves as proof of that. We, too, cannot think that Vez hid this fact in good faith because all they did was talk about issues that were related to them and them only; they either wanted to stir up drama for the sake of it, or just simply have all the attention on themselves.
The sources about the Discord server were never related to Ash/Lily, so these are still valid evidence.
PLEASE, READ THE DOCUMENT SINCE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO POST SOME IMAGES THANKS TO THE TUMBLR LIMIT.
VESPERIONE’S RESPONSE:
Vesperione did reply to our Tumblr post as previously mentioned and linked. They first came with the point about Lily and the 14-year-old minor. Then they went about the police report and, finally, about doxxing and stalking. Let’s make a couple of clarifications:
Regarding Ash/Lily as part of this account, no matter what we say, we’re pretty sure Vesperione will believe what they want to believe, but Lily is not a member of us, and they have no access to the Tumblr account either, nor the TikTok account. They might’ve contributed with their story and correcting stuff here and there when we used to have contact with them, but Lily/Ash is not running this account.
The minors who played the Jane’s a Car scene is still something inappropriate and borderline CSEM. Vez might excuse it as the teens didn’t show any signs of being uncomfortable, or, like in their TikTok video here say that “it’s Hatchetfield, so it comes with the territory”.
The teens showed in the video could’ve said ANYTHING, even showing enthusiastic consent at the moment, yet it is still Vez’s responsibility to either not select minors for the roles of Jane and Tom, or just cut the sex scene completely. Yes, Hatchetfield stories are raunchy and with adult themes, but that’s why they’re performed and acted by ADULTS, not teens, not kids, there’s a very big difference between consuming that type of content as a teen, and producing it. And as someone who claims to care about minors so much, this is something they should’ve had in mind before posting the readthroughs to YouTube. Again, all it took was one person for them to be leaked.
If Vesperione truly sees nothing wrong with how they handled this, then there’s not much else we can do to make them understand.
Vez claims that this account is also stalking them and doxxing them, when we’ve never shared anything that they haven’t shared themselves in their social media. Everything we obtained was public at some point, including their Discord server, which was, until a month or so ago, public for everyone to join. Everything we pointed out was public behavior we linked for a reason, so they cannot claim slander or manipulation of whatever evidence we have.
The only private thing we obtained was the readthroughs, and they haven’t been distributed to anyone, and we don’t plan to. We only showed censored screenshots as proof that those videos exist and they are in our possession.
We would like to use this segment to encourage people to NOT harass them. They might have done a lot of harmful stuff, but harassing a person is not the answer. Just avoid them, block, and move on. This document was NEVER made with the intent of bullying or witch-hunting, but to point out their dangerous behavior in this fandom so people can be aware and decide how they want to proceed.
The thing is, Vez’s Discord account was made public during the time they promoted again and again the Slayhan/Lunar Productions server. Anyone who joined could’ve seen Vez’s user as the owner, this was not hidden information by any means.
And it is very interesting how they talk about how going through the follows of one of the victims who spoke up about them just to search for their parent doesn’t count as stalking, because it’s public information, then why, when other people do it, is it?
We point out again the new accusations Vez made against Ash/Lily. We will not go deep into it as we’re not giving Lily a space to defend themselves here. We linked their post above, but it does have a lot of holes, and they said inconsistencies when we asked for a reply in private. We’re putting the screenshots here as this is one of the rare occasions in which Vesperione actually has proof of something. We’re very sorry for anyone who was a victim of Lily’s behavior. We repeat that she’s no longer involved in this document, and any response she makes is not affiliated with us.
We probably won’t be getting another response from Vesperione. They mentioned a couple of times about being in contact with the police, but the way they’re doing so is making us believe they’re lying as a way to intimidate people from coming out with their story. Either that, or they are using the incorrect channels to report it, in which case it will be dismissed. Nothing has come our way about police interference, so we’re inclined to believe the former.
HARASSMENT TOWARDS A FANFICTION AUTHOR:
The user ijustwantjohnmcnamaratobehappyok came forward with their own experience with Vesperione, and we were permitted to share.
(POST LINKED HERE)
Please, go read the document since there are a few screenshots here that we were unable to share thanks to Tumblr's image limit.
We wanted to share this story in the document principally because, yes, during this time, Vesperione was still very young. Are we gonna criticize a child for acting immature on the internet? No, that is not the whole point of showing this story.
The thing is, this behavior always stayed; Vesperione never grew out of it, they still act the same now that they are 19 and will be 20 in August, which helps to show when the harassment of other people started. This user is not the first, and looking at all the people who had an experience with them, it probably won’t be the last.
For everyone who has come out with their own story, even if you just wanted to vent and not share it, thank you. It’s good to know this blog has helped so many people, and if you have an experience you want to share, even if it’s just for venting and not to be included in the document or talked about, you’re always welcome to do so.
As always, please don’t harass anyone mentioned in this document, and thank you so much for reading.
Hi. I’m a close long term friend of jays from school. I will admit, Jay isn’t a good person but they are more than aware of that but this is physical evidence of them being harassed. We live in the same time some because we went to school together, but this is not the first time it happened. This is an account I used for one of my final projects throughout school, hence why it is blank but come on. You’re saying not to harass them, and you’re letting this get out of control by spreading things that happened five years ago? Again, I don’t use tumblr often but it’s important you see the harassment a close friend of mine is undergoing constantly while you “expose” them, when they’re not even in the starkid fandom anymore and are very open about that.
We are answering this ask to say that today's update is the last one we will make. After being lied to by Lily, everyone involved is tired. This blog is done.
Furthermore, we have repeatedly asked people not to harass anyone involved. If that has happened it is not on our behalf.
They harassed me (aged 16) for being a nonce apologist for shipping John mcnamara and wilbur cross, just because they headcanoned Wilbur as having been John's boss in the past 😭😭
That does sound in brand for them. Thank you for sharing.
"calls out someone for being a rape apologist for a "fuck-or-die" fanfic"
Is a cannibalism apologist with how much fanfics were about cannibalism (that they now take down after being outed as a creep)
vez speedrunning being a pedophile AND a hypocrite
We personally don't think Vez is a pedophile, but is someone that does put minors in dangerous positions.
rip the xander lee racism fic....the fact that jay thought it was in any way remotely a good idea to not just write and publish but to keep up for five years, only taking it down when theyre getting called out for creepy behavior. lmao.
The only defense is that they were a minor when they wrote it, probably with a very limited understanding about how racism and microagressions actually worked. But yes, it's weird that it remained published for so long.
is there any proof of what_happened_to_this_account being lilly? some of dots screenshots they shared are from their main acc and some are from that other one and idk if that’s proof
might just be me tho idek
It is Lily, she has confirmed this. We will address this once we update the document.
Also Jay: I found this person I’m mad at mom’s name from her following her own kid on TikTok and found a ton of her other personal information which I’m mentioning for no reason, definitely not threatening anyone. Also this doesn’t count as stalking or doxxing because all the information is public
I can’t make this shit up
The way they're talking about going through the police channels is concerning because, it looks like they're using it incorrectly.
At best, they're bulshitting and just wanting to scare people.
At worst, they're actually trying to report something like this to the police, in which case it would be dismissed fairly quickly.
Hoping vez sees this bc i just want to say that it’s odd how they’re claiming all of this while not showing much proof other than the cropped screenshots of the rp
We read the reply, is not... much to go with? The Tiktok explanation also was a big "It's hatchetfield" in response to the minors acting the sexual scenes from Jane's a car?
We'll update the document with this later, but for now we're just sitting here contemplating what is this.
