I feel like a lot of people in the Deltarune fandom donât fully get Asgore. But im mostly talking about the people expecting some form of cathartic âcrash outâ from him in chapter 4.
I like Asgore as a character, but what i like about him is his blatant flaws. Toriel at the end of Undertale pacifist is right about Asgore in the sense that heâs prone to falling into stagnation easily, often not very good when it comes to being proactive. Its why he waits for humans to fall down in Undertale and waits at the edge of barrier instead of seeking them out or even crossing the barrier as soon as he had one soul, Its even why in genocide he doesnât take the other souls to stop you, its why Toriel is right that he didnât want another human to come, that he couldnât handle the idea of being free from the Underground.
Its clear he cant really handle change, and while he can be a good guy, heâs not completely morally bankrupt or anything, he has a good heart, heâs also kinda a bad leader when it comes to anything but Morale. In Undertale (and in Deltarune) the people around him ultimately suffer from his stubbornness whether he intends it or not.
The same is true of his situation in Deltarune, heâs become stagnant and stuck in the past because he cant move forward at all. Not all, but honestly most of his current situation is self caused, heâs stuck in his own way. I think the prophecy panel reflects this âthe flower man trapped in asylumâ. While Asylum is often associated with a mental hospital, more broadly it means a place safety. In that sense Asgore is trapped in the safety of stagnation, the reliability of the past he wont move forward from.
Its probably why his relationship with Toriel fell apart, its why he doesnât seem to have a relationship with Kris (since that itself would require adapting to his new situation), its why he cant get back on his feet at all.
And him harassing Toriel is some rough shit, I hate watching that, i want him to improve, i believe he can, but his improvement is all self-involved. Nobody has really done this to him, theres nobody to crash out at. He just needs to see that its time to move forward, that it has been for a long time.
And again Asgore has redeeming qualities, this isnât Asgore slander, but to really appreciate Asgore as a character is to appreciate his flaws, not ignore them.















