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madison // 20 // she/it // terfs fuck off // main starts with c

[terfsarecunts]

Some interesting stats from a survey taken from this article:

I Interviewed People About Their Experiences With the “Pansexual” Label

This is what they had to say

This is what Bisexuals mean by Pansexuality perpetrated harmful stereotypes that affect us IRL & how we’re seen in the community. I found this on Twitter and had to share.

[terfsarecunts]

Thank you for effortlessly proving the aforementioned point

[january-warlock]

Also what’s really funny about “panphobia” is that pansexuals are coddled.

No, genuinely, they are coddled in a way absolutely no one else is.

You make a post criticizing the pan label, how it’s biphobic, transphobic, often homophobic, and how the creator of the flag is a lesbophobe, and all you get is “no panphobia!” “Pansexuals are valid!” “Pansexuals aren’t hurting anyone!” Because somehow pansexual feelings are more important than a label that has harmed the community as a whole.

I mean, for fuck’s sake, I saw a post about US IMPERIALISM get derailed because “op is a panphobe.” I’ve seen posts about how to spot actual terf dogwhistles and how to actually support trans women get derailed because “op is a panphobe.” Because how dare pansexual feelings not be the first priority and given utmost consideration.

It is fucking insane, because absolutely no one else gets this treatment. Everyone can say whatever horrific shit about lesbians and bisexuals and trans people (especially trans women) they want (“bisexuals and lesbians are dumb and transphobic and I am smarter and more woke because I would be willing to date a trans person”), but how DARE they criticize the pan label and say that pansexuals are not valid.

[biexboyfriend-deactivated202305]

when are people on this site going to grow up and realise that bi women are also negatively affected by the bi lesbian shit instead of solely blaming us for it. bi lesbian identity arose out of both biphobic and lesbophobic rhetoric and is used by a lot of different people for many different reasons. but it's just seen as bisexuals being invasive and not respecting others identity or whatever. and let's not pretend like there isn't a problem that whenever an issue effects bisexuals too, that part just doesn't get acknowledged, in fact we often get blamed for causing the problem. why does this still need to be pointed out.

[bisexyenby]

If you call yourself pansexual because you want to place special emphasis on how you date nonbinary people, you are playing into the idea that lesbian, gay, straight, and bisexual identity is inherently exclusionary of those outside the gender binary, or that we are somehow reinforcing the gender binary. This goes for many other aspects pans may see unique to pansexuality, such as loving people for their personality, having “purer” attraction that isn’t focused on an individuals body, being progressive, or being/dating transgender people. Ask yourself why these traits seem exclusive to other sexualities, and search for your answers within yourself, pansexual history, and LGBT history as a whole.

[stfudiscoinfernoed-archive]

The idea that pansexual has become so mainstream that we just have to put up with it and try to integrate it into our understanding of bisexuality is so funny to me because you know what else was mainstream? Metrosexual. Mainstream doesn’t mean it will stay prominent.

[stfudiscoinfernoed-archive]

Also. If pan is going to stay mainstream, than people who use pan are going to have to understand and accept why many bi people don’t like the label or want it to be used. They are going to have to understand that panphobia doesn’t really exist outside of biphobia because there is no structural or systemic discrimination against pan people specifically and criticism of pan as a label, including wanting the label to disappear, isn’t discriminatory. It’s unreasonable to put the onus of understanding on bi people, which is exactly what happens when you decide that bi people understanding the pan label can move past its biphobic and transphobic origins is the same as pan people understanding that bi is not an exclusionary or outdated label.

Activism and advocacy for bisexuality have been negatively impacted by pansexuality because we’ve had to spend more time on wrestling back what it means to be bi from pansexuality and fighting accusations of exclusion (of pan, omni, etc people) than actually fighting biphobia. . If pan people want to continue using pan, than they have to acknowledge that. If they don’t, they care more about getting affirmation to not call themselves bi than creating a pan community that’s reckoned with and worked to move away from its biphobic and transphobic origins.

[cloudytomboy]

Trans women will never be free until people stop having strong emotions about penises. Like we, as a society, have got to stop caring about dicks! Dicks have to stop symbolizing maleness, obviously, but they also have to stop symbolizing power, dominance, sexual agency and aggression, violence, and even sex itself. Like trans women can’t be free if the very conceptual presence of a penis represents an intrusion(!) of unwanted(!) sexuality(!) in public life. Like that’s why trans women are abhorrent to both male chauvinists and radical feminists, because both groups have extremely strong feelings about what a penis *represents*, and find the conceptual and actual presence of a woman with a penis to be simultaneously vile and nonsensical because they’ve loaded so much symbolic baggage onto both women and penises.

Anyway dicks are totally neutral body parts and seeing a dick, or a bulge in a swimsuit, or simply knowing that there’s a dick somewhere in the same bathroom as you isn’t harmful or violent

[colorisbyshe]

Honestly, ace discourse wouldn’t exist if people were capable of understanding that every single person on the fucking planet not only has a DIFFERENT relationship to sex/relationships/attraction as everyone else but also a COMPLICATED relationship to sex/relationships/attraction. Every single person! Yes, even the privileged ones.

Because we live in a society that demands sex as much as it punishes it. That both glorifies and demonizes sex. Sex is only good within very specific contexts but if you don’t like those contexts or act within them, suddenly you are perverse and wrong. Even people with healthy relationships to sex, relationships, and attraction still face pitfalls that complicate matters–partners who don’t have healthy relationships or maybe they can’t get a partner at all. Break ups. Factors that affect their libidos or interest in relationships. Periods where sex and romance don’t matter at all because something else is a priority.

And of course, your gender, sexual orientation, race, class, and every other identity impacts not just YOUR relationship to sex and all that but also everyone ELSE’S relationship and response to your sex, relationships, attraction. And the identities of the people you are and aren’t attracted to impacts that too! From the race of your partner to same gender relationships to people who prefer fat partners to whatever the fuck else… all of this impacts the complications around sex, relationships, and attraction.

And yet it is only people on the ace and aro “spectrums” who are obsessed with pretending their relationships to these things are wholly unique or special. That they have created new social classes. They are obsessed with feeling different because they think there is some homogeneous relationship to sex and love that the rest of the world is partaking in that they are somehow excluded from. When really everyone has something complicated from, their own hyper specific contexts where they do or don’t want sex or love or whatever.

Nothing about your relationship to sex or love makes you more or less LGBT. If you are gay and don’t want to have sex, ever, you are still gay. If you are cisgender and straight and only feel capable of sexual desire for longterm monogamous partners and even then, you only want to fuck on Tuesday mornings and Friday nights.. you’re still straight. You haven’t discovered a new class of heterosexuality that is “queer’ or different. Rather, EVERY person who is heterosexual is different in how they perform or experiecne it. You are the same in your difference. A cishet who doesn’t ever want sex because of trauma is no more or less cishet than one who wants sex all the time because of trauma or a cishet who doesn’t ever want sex because they don’t feel sexual attraction or whatever else.

Gayness, straightness, and bisexuality are not defined by HOW you do or don’t want sex or HOW you do or don’t want to date, it’s just defined by WHO you want to be with. There are infinite ways for HOW you can gay, straight, or bi and none of them are separate identities.

[tonysopranobignaturals-deactiva]

qUeEr iS nOt UsEd aS a sLuR

[terfsarecunts]

Some interesting stats from a survey taken from this article:

I Interviewed People About Their Experiences With the “Pansexual” Label

This is what they had to say

This is what Bisexuals mean by Pansexuality perpetrated harmful stereotypes that affect us IRL & how we’re seen in the community. I found this on Twitter and had to share.

[colorisbyshe]

I mean this very genuinely and am saying it with my whole heart: Fuck pansexuality and all of those who push and defend it. Fuck every other label used to replace bisexual too

[catgirlapologist]

ok but genuinely, what’s going on on the lesbian lgbt wiki page is so disgusting and upsetting, lesbians have to be exposed to lesbophobia even when they just look up their own identity. not only did the admins lock the page and the comment section so no one could change it or speak up against it, which is literally silencing lesbians, but they’re also calling ANYONE who disagrees with them a terf and a political lesbian, including literal transfem lesbians. in case it wasn’t clear tme people calling tma people terfs is inherently transphobic. also if that wasn’t enough transphobia, they’re not only silencing lesbians trying to speak up about lesbophobia but they’re also silencing trans men who are speaking up about the insanely transphobic take on the wiki page that trans men can be lesbians. it’s literally just so exhausting to have to deal with this and i haven’t even seen anyone here talk about it. saying that men and bi/pan people can be lesbians is lesbophobic and biphobic/panphobic, and calling lesbians, bi/pan people and trans people who try to correct your insanely harmful takes terfs and political lesbians is also lesbophobic, biphobic/panphobic and transphobic. literally just let lesbians define our own identity, stop speaking over us, and stop silencing us when we try to correct you

[ID: a colorful sparkling gif reading: “terfs don’t fucking touch this post” /end ID]

[theprideful-deactivated20251201]

calling lesbians terfs on the basis of them being lesbians or defining our own orientation (while explicitly being trans-inclusive!) is lesbophobic af.

[wwhenthepawn]

this ^^^^^^^^

all of it

[virginalbehemoth-moved-deactiva]

we got too many pride flags

[virginalbehemoth-moved-deactiva]

im not proud enough for this

[ihavegaysex42069]

naur

[unregistered-hypercam-3]

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[fuckyeahdyke]

I'm a lesbian who only likes penises and I dare anyone to invalidate me. There's nothing more terfy and colonialist than same sex attraction.

[violettomcat-archived]

*smacks you over the head with a poorly put-together history textbook I made in crafts* LEARN BISEXUAL HISTORY BEFORE YOU ACT KNOWLEDGABLE

“Bisexual—being emotionally and physically attracted to all genders.” - GLSEN in fucking 1998

“Do not assume that bisexuality is binary or duogamous in nature [...] In fact, don’t assume that there are only two genders.” 1990 Bi Manifesto

“But there are also many bis, such as myself, for whom gender has no place in the list of things that attract them to a person.“ 2002

“Bisexual people are those for whom gender is not the first criteria in determining attraction.” 2003

“Assuming that all bisexuals are never attracted to trans or genderqueer folk is harmful, not only to bi individuals, but to trans and genderqueer individuals who choose to label themselves as bi.”

“Bisexual: A person who is attracted to people regardless of gender (a person does not have to have a relationship to be bisexual!)” 2003

“These data support the argument that, for some bisexual individuals, sexual attraction is not gender-linked.” 1992

[violettomcat-archived]

Now that we’re approaching 20,000 notes I want to share what I’ve learned since this post first gained traction.

It is increasingly apparent that only a select minority of certain communities are willing to listen to this post and accept that bisexuality’s inclusivity and definition are not up for debate, and that this definition and inclusivity are not new to our community.

It is equally difficult to get through to people who have chosen Latin meanings over history, a hypocritical stance they don’t take up with words like gay or lesbian.

I’ve had more people deny this post’s truth than recognize it as history. I’ve spent hours having to reply to people who do not care about bisexuals than I have talking to people this post helped.

This post is not my opinion, it is a collection of sourced quotes. Despite this being stated over and over again, the content of this post is treated as discourse that is original and unique to my blog.

[coffeemiso]

monthly reminder that terf is not actually Just a substitute for transphobe, and transphobe is still a perfectly normal word to use to describe someone who is, u guessed right, transphobic, and Not a radical feminist. terf as an acronym doesn’t actually stop at the “trans exclusionary” part. nobody is going to take you seriously in lgbt politics if you can’t use terms like this correctly because you make it clear you don’t actually know what you’re talking about, and the entire argument is going to be diluted by people not distinguishing between terfism, transmedicalism, and transphobia.

they share aspects but are not interchangeable; making them so detracts from the conversations surrounding them. use the words that you mean

[steveyockey]

you literally can just be bisexual it’s okay great in fact

[steveyockey]

the biphobia of needing a specific label to signify that You Specifically are attracted to people not for mundane horny reasons but because you Enjoy Deep Conversation and Intellectual Rigor girl go date house of leaves if it’s that serious

[yukikagone-deactivated20210715]

the difference between bisexual and pansexual is that bi means all and pan only means two. hope this helps! ❤

[ladyheart-deactivated20210919]

The two being referred to here are Hamilton and Voltron btw.

[accurate-bisexual-info]

“Pansexuality means [definition of bisexuality] except [insults bisexuals].”