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Things every Dick vs Tim Red Robin fallout gets wrong no matter who's side they take

1. They still loved each other

2. Dick went after Tim after Tim stormed out of the cave. He didn't just leave it at that

3. They didn't have 0 contact, Dick called Tim back to Gotham for Blackest Night. They weren't talking because Tim didn't want to talk

4. Alfred gave Damian the Robin costume initially without Dick's knowledge, and his first mission as Robin was saving Tim's life after he got beat up by Jason (again). He apparently left this mess for Dick to clean up, and I don't think anyone ever told Tim that's how Damian ended up with the mantle

5. Dick helped in the process of bringing Bruce back to the current time, Tim presented his evidence when he got home, and Dick checked it out and solved the time puzzle in Bruce's ancestral home. Tim didn't magically pop back with Bruce after doing everything by himself, it was a coordinated effort that involved the Justice League

6. Tim and Damian started to get along. Not during Red Robin, but during Batman: Gates of Gotham

7. They were both grieving, Dick just masked it better

8. Tim didn't feel like he could ask for help because he knew sounded insane (and was feeling/acting insane). He was doing one of those 'i push away everyone i love because i hate myself' things, which he also did to Steph (who he fired as Spoiler under god knows who's authority) and Cassie. Dick wasn't special in this treatment, and he can't force Tim to stay, so he trusted Tim's judgement and let him leave. It is a "Tim's a sad boy" comic, but he's also very much a part of causing his own problems

9. They still loved each other. They never stopped loving each other. They never hated one another. Both in this era asked the other "Do you trust me?" And the other replied "Yes" and did the thing they asked. *shakes everyone who's ever written about this* that's the whole point, it's about miscommunication, and being in a bad place, but having what you need where you started waiting for you the whole time

upswings

i think a lot about the hypothetical in-universe provenance of the fanon nickname "baby bird," which i see most often in fic with jason and tim, but which makes the most sense as something dick originally gave him, like,

back when it was just the two of them, and tim was down in bludhaven for the weekend, and by some coincidence or supernatural sense he walked in the door just as dick was unloading the takeout he'd ordered, which tim immediately made a beeline for, like, oh, sweet, indian food. did you get butter chicken? i love butter chicken, already hunting for utensils

no, of course you can have some of my takeout, tim, dick said loudly in the direction of tim's back -- because obviously he had ordered enough for two people knowing tim was coming over but that was not the point here -- you don't even have to ask. just help yourself. mi casa es su casa, baby bird.

uh-huh, thanks, tim said blithely, in that i-hear-your-sarcasm-but-i-am-declining-to-acknowledge-it kind of way, before pulling up and adding, wait, baby bird?

yeah, dick said, baby bird, like, you know, cheep! cheep! -- tilting his head back and miming the little grabby mouth motions -- feed me, dick! i am fifteen years old and somehow still incapable of getting my own dinner! cheep!

which finally made tim look up and -- having found a spoon somewhere by this point -- lock eyes with dick while grabbing the nearest takeout container and immediately starting to eat whatever was inside, cat-knocking-over-your-water-glass style, and he probably thought his expression was flat but to the eyes of a trained detective like dick there was the slightest pout to his cheeks, which naturally meant that dick was going to have to call him that again at the next available opportunity --

-- anyway, what was i saying? oh, yes. nicknames. i like baby bird. it's cute, you know?

silverwhittlingknife

maridoodles

timmy and dickiebirds

malenjoyer

peekaboo

malenjoyer

(spiderman video voice) pizza time

malenjoyer

cool!

heroesriseandfall

Big fan of that one panel of Dick and Tim which is like "Quit it" "shush" "Quit it!" "Shush!" as Dick has Tim in an arm lock and giving him a noogie. Peak Brotherism

Yeah!! They’re sooo good. Another thing I love about that scene is how they’re playing games and messing with each other the whole time until Lucius and Bruce finally walk over and suddenly they’re standing totally normal and professional.

Gotham Knights (2000) #8

malenjoyer

[ Your HP has decreased by -3 ]

pokeberry5

tim "faking" a bicycle accident to get his neighbor to come help him, based on @upswings's post, which gripped me by the throat the moment i read it

extras:

pokeberry5

late night/early morning stakeout

three-semicolons

Bro they’re a whole ass team of adults and then

Him

Look at how tiny he is. So small. Bruce hauled an entire child out here and the response was an overwhelming “neat”.

AND DICK STILL THINKS HE AND BATMAN ALONE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER.

THE AUDACITY.

YOU DO NOT CRACK FOUR FEET. YOU GET NO SAY. YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS, NO VOTING POWER, ABSOLUTELY NO STANDING FOR THIS GALL. YOU CANNOT RIDE A FERRIS WHEEL. AND YOU BELIEVE YOU WOULD PERFORM BETTER THAN A TEAM WITH A LANTERN AND AN AMAZON BECAUSE OF YOUR POWER OF FRIENDSHIP WITH THE OTHER NORMAL GUY DRESSED IN A SILLY COSTUME.

Honestly based.

goldfishinaplasticbag

highway robbery

goldfishinaplasticbag

what is his fucking problem

goldfishinaplasticbag

a story in four parts

goldfishinaplasticbag

the good people on twitter wanted to give him hot chocolate

goldfishinaplasticbag

this new tim robin look could have been fire if they locked in and weren’t cowards. and actually make him look his age.

i am honestly okay with short hair, undercut even for tim! but nobody knows how to draw it and we are missing out on handsome tim drake with a sexy undercut 🤷🤷🤷