fuck this at least we have fic

they/them | queer | Gene | Follows from other blog | he/they mike truther |  formerly @bylermaybe | icon by @tiredaroaceperson

[genehasissues]

[nymph1e]

Right. I have seen too many dickheads demean byler fans in their upset, claiming it "wasn't real queerbaiting" for various reasons, claiming that johnlock/destiel/klance/whatever is the REAL queerbait.

If this is you, kindly shut the fuck up and listen to someone who was fucking present for all three of those queerbaits and more, and never believed byler stood a chance.

Byler is abso-fucking-lutely queerbait on those levels, and fans of byler - many of whom are new to fandom and have never been queerbaited before - have a right to be fucking upset. Just like you had a right to be upset however many times you fell for Lucy and the football.

Now you may have watched stranger things and not seen any byler evidence or shipped byler, but may I remind my fellow tjlcers that manynpeople called us delusional for tjlc and didn't see what we saw. What you WILL see if you look for it is YEARS of the writers, directors, cast, crew, and social media pages hinting at and teasing byler as a possibility, right up until the last episode came out.

A lot of you are saying that it cant be wueerbait since one of the characters is queer, but may I kindly shove your fucking face at destiel, and Cas being explicitly queer and in love with Dean. That doesnt make destiel ANY LESS QUEERBAIT in the same way it doesnt make byler any less queerbait.

The long and the short of it is they teased the queer fans of the show with the potential for a main storyline queer romance, through subtle shit in the show, and through EXPLICIT FUCKING MARKETING. It has left fans - again, YOUNG fans - feeling hurt and used. It has reminded people that to most of the world they dont fucking matter, and hammered in the idea that queer characters and love stories are not viewed in even the vaguest sort of equal ground. JUST LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU.

NONE of the great queerbaits ever had a fucking snowballs chance. It's easy to mock people who aren't jaded by this shit already, but maybe instead you can pull from your own hurt when youve been queerbaited and show some fucking empathy.

[miwiromantics]

Millie saying Kali and Will are the only ones who actually understand El while the duffers tried to say only Mike could.

Finn describing mileven as a ‘leech you can’t get rid off’ and confirming that Mike lied in the s4 monologue.

Noah being the one to add in actual good scenes in volume 3 because the duffers were so bad at closing the story.

How does the cast actually understand their characters more than the creators of those fucking characters dude???

[chasetheauthor]

i feel like i am not being clear enough please let it be known i do not believe in conformitygate in practice only in theory do Not show me episode 9 show me the 50k word fanfiction some 14 year old is going to write based off of what that would have looked like

[corgicrafter]

I have many thoughts

[sallx-blr57]

Let's be crazy together one last time guys...

I'm gonna miss y'all 😭

[itmightbehere]

Y'all, you seriously have to listen to the Empty Netters guys' reviews of the show. I listened to them all day at work and I don't think I stopped smiling once. I constantly had to bite my lips closed to keep from cackling, and I failed at least once (an hour).

They went from a 20 min ep chirping the obvious lack of anyone with real world hockey knowledge working on the show in ep 1 (I'll have to take their word for it. Also did I lingo right??? Actually don't tell me) to an hour and a half play by play of every single moment of episode 6 where they ping pong between ecstatic and crying.

I learned things about hockey (against my will, but I still learned it).

One of them wants to have Svetlana's babies and threatened the life of Alexei's actor if his character insults her again. Another wants to have Ilya's babies. It might be the same one, idk.

It was like listening to your fave fangirl besties sports commentating someone's relationship. They were writing fanfic by the end.

It was genuinely so fun listening to these grown, (cis straight I think???) dudes lose their minds as they discovered that the romance genre is good, actually. Like, duh! We've been telling you this!

Please do yourself a favor and listen.

[mike-weezer]

[artemis-pendragon]

Hellers and TJLC veterans watching Stranger Things fandom descend into radioactively toxic pre-series-finale shipping discourse and manic meta analysis hell:

[genehasissues]

god do you guys remember when people who followed tjlc fully believed there was gonna be a secret surprise sherlock episode. not bringing this up for any reason.

[genehasissues]

"Why would they do this to us?"

Because. We. Do. Not. Matter. To. Them.

We are walking dollar signs to these people. They don't care, they just want our money. They don't care, they just want to have their fingers in the wallets of queers and homophobes at the same time. They don't care, they just want the woke points that come with having queer characters, but don't want to be TOO controversial by making it undeniable to people who might feel a little uncomfy :(

If we want our voices to be heard, we can't rely on these people. We can't just wait for cishet men to give us scraps. We have to scream from the rooftops. We have to produce our own fucking content and support content creators who are one of our own.

We deserve to fucking exist. We deserve to be happy. And we have the power to take that for ourselves.

[genehasissues]

[miwiheroes]

AND LETS MAKE IT THREE

[yoursleepdemon]

"But what are you going to do if byler isn't cannon??"

Keep shipping it? This is not my first rodeo buckroo

[robinwize]

look. whatever happens, can we at least all agree to not harass the actors? they were not present in the writer's room and shouldn't bear the brunt of the responsibility here. we can be-- should be-- better than that. log off.

[fatfatgaybitch]

If Rovickie can get together off camera and explain it, then milkvan can break up off camera and explain it

[michellethebrave]

SAY IT AGAIN ‼️

[seraphimbones13]

what kind of gay shit had to occur during the 18 month timeskip in order for William ‘single-handedly glued Mileven back together in season 4’ Byers to ask “how obvious” ?????