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Hi , i just wanted to say i genuinely love all your analyses on Firey.
I always love looking up analyses of my fav characters , to see how others view them, but when it comes to Firey, most of the time, they have horrible takes they never dive into why he might act the way he does they just write him off as a horrible, bland , boring etc.
Especially when it comes to the Fireafy ark. Don't get me wrong, I love leafy she is also one of my favs, but I feel like lots of people like to make out that all Firey actions had malicious intent to hurt leafy when thats just not the case and it's clear that's not the case (to me anyway)
Anyways, sorry if any punctuation or grammar is wrong. I struggle with putting my thoughts into writing a lot. I'm just so happy i decided to look on Tumbler bc YouTube analyses make me want to rip my hair out. I literally agree with all the things you said
i’ve honestly never had any askbox messages sent to me on here, so this is very interesting.. thank you very much, though! it truly baffles me as well how there is so much misinformation and slander spread about a little fictional flame.. if there is anything that i can do to disprove that or help others feel validated, then i will in fact continue to grit my teeth at youtube videos and spend way too much time arguing about him!
Hi everyone! I’m conducting an anonymous (You only need an email to avoid spam, I won’t record it.) survey to see how people characterize Firey, Leafy, Coiny and Pin. Additionally, I am trying to assess anything that may influence that. (Ex. Ships, choice of favorite character, fanfiction, headcanons from other people, etc.)
There is no “wrong” answer, I am just looking for fandom causes of answers. I would really appreciate if people would be able to take this or at least share this with others so that I am able to gather worthwhile data. Thank you for your time.
Hello!
This is an anonymous survey which serves to look into/scale how people characterize and perceive the characters of Firey, Leafy, Coi
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An 8k word Firey/Leafy oneshot written for @cats-eat-humans on here. Sorry for the long wait! I was adding the finishing touches. This is a humanized actor AU that has fluff and features what is technically a TPOT reunion scene between Firey and Leafy. I hope that my giftee enjoys this and that others do as well!
My Thoughts On a Specific BFDIA 23 Scene and Its Narrative Implications
(Mild spoilers for a specific BFDIA 23 scene below the cut!)
I'm seeing a lot of people really praise the scene between Needle and Pencil during the challenge, but I personally feel as if.. people are sort of missing the point of it? I personally think that it's well written if intentional, but I'm seeing people on Twitter and such only take away from this scene: "Wow, Pencil is so kind in BFDIA! What could've possibly happened in IDFB to change her?" That's.. not true? Nothing about Pencil actually screams kind and genuine here.
(Quick disclaimer here that this is not Pencil slander. I think that she's a well written character but that her increasingly becoming more and more terrible of a person is what makes her so interesting.)
Pencil is not looking out for Needle's best interests here. In many previous episodes of BFDIA, Pencil repeatedly dismisses Needle and dehumanizes her, saying that she only has worth to her if she proves herself to Freesmart. She flips between saying that Needle is allowed to have free will and then getting mad when she makes the personal decision to consider other options. This is not even mentioning her previous behavior such as when she yells at Ruby until she cries in BFDIA 5c or when she repeatedly disregards Book's suggestions and concerns in episodes such as BFDIA 8.
So, when Pencil is saying that Needle shouldn't be winning for herself because it's more fun to win with friends, she is being a hypocrite (Especially since she has willingly abandoned Freesmart, such as when she was genuinely considering working with Fries and Coiny for the rest of the season after BFDIA 15 until Coiny wanted to add Pin to their alliance.) and also once again trying to strip away Needle's ability to have free will.
Even when Needle opens up to Pencil and talks about how she's doing all of this because of how she feels inadequate and struggling with feeling as if she is her own person outside of being a friend or an ally to someone, Pencil pretty much changes the subject and says that Needle should win the challenge for her sake. Here, Pencil genuinely thinks that she's being a good person and helping Needle, but much like how Book points out during their argument in TPOT 17, Pencil is still being selfish and dehumanizing Needle.
In fact, I'm willing to argue that this is the first domino in a chain reaction that causes Needle to fully go back to Freesmart in IDFB, as she is seen to be guarding the Science Museum on behalf of them. Again, however, she's clearly having her autonomy taken away here, as she is forced to do one duty and isn't even allowed to spend time with the rest of the group like she would've wanted.
Pencil didn't suddenly "turn evil" after this scene. She's just luring Needle in with kind words to do the exact same thing to her that she's been trying to do for literally the entire season.
i have had an idfb fic idea for over a year straight but i'm probably never gonna be able to get around to writing it due to college and family situation and stuff.. i did try writing it once but i couldn't get the intro to sound right so basically here is my very specific vision for my idea of a firey-coiny-pin dynamic in the idfb era. polycule with a hint of psychological horror yknow.
coiny is someone who like. very obviously has a savior complex right. we see it not just with his many desperate attempts to save pin but also through his relationship with barbecue sauce as well as he inserts himself into being the leader of any team he's on because it makes him feel wanted yes? he has his own personal traumas from bfdia (like being put in dangerous situations and losing someone he cares about multiple times) but he doesn't wanna focus on them so he NEEDS something to fixate on. what does he do? he focuses on "saving the people around him" aka firey and pin..
pin is pretty obvious. she may be "doing better" in idfb but she still has to focus on recovery because suddenly having limbs after months of living without them is weird! and painful! and terrifying! i imagine she probably struggles with phantom pain and has to frequently go to appointments that tennis ball and golf ball have her do to check on her body. and that's not even mentioning how nervous and anxious she's become out of fear of having everybody around her hate her again. not fun! at times she gets so upset about it that she lashes out at coiny and immediately feels awful for doing so afterwards especially with how close they are. naturally, this worries coiny a bunch, so he repeatedly tries to use their telepathic connection to keep an eye on her and see how things are going.. but he overuses it so much that he develops migraines and starts passing out. UH OH! and pin lowkey gets upset because she's so used to having her autonomy taken from her and coiny is unknowingly doing the same by acting like she can't do anything without him being around to "keep an eye on her."
at the same time, coiny is also trying to help firey who is uh. pretty visibly traumatized after being let out of his cage punishment. he seems normal in his first few days out but then his mental health rapidly deteriorates (i.e. constant flashbacks and hallucinations and paranoia) and he eventually isolates himself in his house. coiny is able to convince him to let him in and he starts frequently visiting him to help him get better until he's "strong enough" to go outside again but uh. fireys sense of connection/trust is so messed up at this point that he falls in love with coiny. or more so the idea of him. and its super unhealthy his entire wellbeing sort of hinges on coiny being around and when coiny indulges in it things only get worse because he's slowly hallucinating coiny more and more as his previous partner (gelatin, who broke up with firey and was partially responsible for firey getting punished due to letting freesmart do it without protesting) and coiny enables it because he thinks that it's the only thing that can make firey feel "okay" anymore.
well, unsurprisingly, pin finds out. even if she didn't use the telepathic link with coiny, she would've found out anyway through visiting firey herself. she's completely pissed off. coiny isn't helping firey get better at all. he's still barely eating and still locking himself away except only now, he's also completely dissociated from reality. it takes a lot of effort from pin (especially since she's also still struggling with her own issues) but slowly and surely she manages to pull firey out of his state. great! in fact, their friendship is starting to turn into something special due to their shared experiences with trauma and having trouble finding connections. good! except now coiny's feeling completely inadequate and incapable of helping anyone. uh oh! surely he will not do anything terrible and rash and impulsive.
except uhm. he will. because his own mental health is falling apart. not to mention how he also keeps having nightmares about failing to save barbecue sauce. and how firey and pin are probably next. and he's lowkey also neglecting his own health what with the telepathy induced migraines and having asthma (developed due to suffocating in space for 2 months) in an abandoned yet polluted city. at some point it all becomes too much and he just falls apart. needless to say this freaks firey and pin out and when coiny wakes up and sees this. he realizes something. how is he supposed to save other people when he can't even save himself?
it takes quite a bit of time but eventually things get better for all of them. pin no longer struggles as much with her limb issues and anxiety. firey still suffers from his trauma but he's recovered enough that he can now take care of himself and function on his own and go outside again without feeling afraid. as for coiny.. well. he still has those urges to be the hero everyone "needs." but thanks to both of the people he cares so much about he realizes that he needs to take a step back from that and care about himself as well. only took a lot of morally grey behavior to get there..
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The Ableist Treatment of Firey BFDI An analysis of ableism found in fandom spaces through the perspective of the “Battle for Dream Island” f
Here we go! After 2 days of hard work and nearly 13k words worth of analysis, I have finished what may be a controversial literary paper. In this documentation, I cover the possibility of Firey being a neurodivergent and/or disabled character as well as why this makes his already odd fandom treatment even stranger through evidence I’ve experienced and witnessed over several years.
Attached above is two different links for it. The second link is the original Google Doc, while the first link is a port of it I did to Ao3 that is divided into chapters. Please feel free to leave constructive criticism and feedback on this. Thank you for reading and happy Thanksgiving if you happen to celebrate it!
i am currently cooking the largest firey bfdi paper of my entire life.. it is currently at 5.6k words and i hope to have 10k by the end. 🙂↕️ it will be extremely controversial i fear but it will be worth it and i hope to have it out tomorrow!
for the record, i personally don’t consider myself a fireafy shipper on a romantic level. not in a negative way, but if people have dabbled with my profile they’ll know i’m actually a really crazy gelafirey fan i have written hundreds of thousands of words of fanfiction about them and i will forever ship and draw them.. but there is something about fireafy that is so cosmically interwined to me.
“friends” is not quite the appropriate label for their dynamic after all they’ve been through, but i hesitate to view their pairing in a romance filled light that’s filled of any typical tropes or activities. that’s not to say that romantic fireafy shippers are necessarily wrong, just that they’re looking more so at the key bulleted point events of it. they were always meant to have a connection. always meant to eventually quarrel beyond control.
the universe quite literally hinges on both the forming and falling out of their bond. if firey is gone, a placeholder is wedged in to replace his slot. if leafy’s fate is different, cracks in the universe cause galactical levels of collapse. it had to happen. everything that had ever gone down between them “needed” to happen in the eyes of the universe because they are in some way soulmates for one another.
even their basic character summaries work as a way of meshing them well together. both people pleasers, but in different ways. firey is an unintentionally destructive person who suffocates it to stop feeling lonely and leafy wants to help others but is so suffocating (to them) with her feelings that she ends up being viewed as a scapegoat for destruction.
again and again, they lose each other. again and again, they’ll find each other’s path once more. they have unconditional trust in each other during tpot that isn’t breakable. firey has spent a year searching for leafy and leafy has confidently waited a year for firey because of that built trust. one could argue that this is imbalanced, but the characters themselves have utter faith in it, as shown through tpot 19 and tpot 20.
i think they are inherently linked together and destined to meet in every universe, but it is for this very reason that i am completely uninterested in fireafy romantically. of course, i enjoy content of it and i would not necessarily be opposed to giving a romantic take on them a try, but i simply think it doesn’t match my personal vision on what their dynamic feels like.
gelafirey, however? they are not “meant to be” together, and i do not mean this in the sense that i think their pairing is “sinful.” i just think that they met under very situational circumstances and that if the universe had a choice it would rip them away from each other again and again and again. that is a whole other can of worms though and i’m not sure who’d be interested on that take..
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