just_fuck_it

giantimp but trying to keep my main math related(don't even know If this is now considered my main) so this he/him Israeli but the current government kinda sucks

[aorish-deactivated20251222]

you dont hear people say fapping much anymore

[gigantoimperioum]

It just seems degenerate

[heyimboredtalktome]

the annihilation of palestinians transcends any value of an israeli life for the zionist terrorists

[gigantoimperioum]

They were ready to release 230 mostly innocent people for 6000 mostly terrorists

And safe passage for hamas's leaders to Lebanon

They were ready to abandon the Palestinian people

Don't act like it was for free

[ladychlo]

"nobody in the world, nobody in history, has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people who were oppressing them" Assata Shakur

FREE PALESTINE.

[kamuela-alamea]

something amazing about this quote is that it reminds me of how different groups of people who underwent colonization have fought back and my people included, as well as Haitians, and now Palestinians. protecting your people isn’t violence it’s justice and if blood has to be shed to protect your people then so be it.

[gigantoimperioum]

Sure things like *checking notes* "absolutely killing everybody you don't kidnap at festival nearby" is protecting your people

[kamuela-alamea]

if you’re here to try and debate with me i don’t debate with racist people anymore so jus send an addy cuz im not with all that. that’s the sole reason for this post. if u have something to say about any of these people u could come find out.

[gigantoimperioum]

Nah man I'm adding context, thanks for the unprompted racism call really made my day

If I have anything to say to these people? Killing innocents is still killing innocents I guess

And to the Palestinian people who aren't terrorists I'm sorry, I hope you make and have freedom and independence,I promise you tho Hamas is not going to get you that

[ladychlo]

"nobody in the world, nobody in history, has ever gotten their freedom by appealing to the moral sense of the people who were oppressing them" Assata Shakur

FREE PALESTINE.

[kamuela-alamea]

something amazing about this quote is that it reminds me of how different groups of people who underwent colonization have fought back and my people included, as well as Haitians, and now Palestinians. protecting your people isn’t violence it’s justice and if blood has to be shed to protect your people then so be it.

[gigantoimperioum]

Sure things like *checking notes* "absolutely killing everybody you don't kidnap at festival nearby" is protecting your people

[starlightshadowsworld]

"Oh but both sides have it bad."

Palestinians are dying by the thousands, whole families are being wiped out in seconds.

Israeli's are posting "get ready with me, war edition" videos where they bake bread for soilders.

While the Palestinians are eating bread caked with blood just to survive.

The Israelis are posting cheering as bombs land and hoping more Palestinians die.

Signing off videos with "hastag stay thirsty."

Knowing that the Palestinians have no clean water, and they are drinking dirty water which makes them sick just to survive.

The Israelis are going to the beach, they have access to public transport, they have the freedom to move around and do whatever they wish.

The Palestinians are writing their names on their hands so they can be identified when the bombs strike.

This is not a war.

Their is no both sides.

This is genocide.

[gigantoimperioum]

Can i remind you we started this war with hamas having posted so many videos of then doing disgusting things to innocents that Israel didn't have to,

Having more dead is not a sign of being the good guys and having your PR focused on showing the world how much you suffer versus having it being focused on uplifting your citizens preparation for the upcoming war with probably all of the middle east certainly isn't either

Is the Palestinian now suffering greatly? Yes

Do I care ? Certainly yes,

do i care more about the kidnapped tho? Abso fucking lutely

[anarcho-yorpism]

I don't usually talk about Israel/Palestine, but as an Israeli citizen who doesn't support genocide, I need to speak out.

We're seeing, on a massive scale, news websites release articles saying "Israel bombs hospital in Gaza" and revising it to "Israel, Hamas trade blame for hospital bombing in Gaza". Every single news site is doing the same thing.

New York Times, original headline:

New York Times, new headline:

Business Insider, original headline: Hamas says Israeli forces bombed a hospital and killed hundreds of people. The UN has documented dozens of other attacks on healthcare in Gaza." New headline:

Reuters, original headline:

Reuters, new headline:

Politico, original headline:

Politico, new headline:

Boston Globe, original headline:

Boston Globe, new headline:

Financial Times, original headline:

Financial Times, new headline:

Daily Beast, old headline:

Daily Beast, new headline:

Every single news site is changing their headlines, but instead of admitting the correction as is done in every single other instance of this updating, they are acting as if this was always their headline. Note the repeated use of "Hamas and Israel trade blame" in the new headlines. This is the power the Israeli military has over the news, the control the US government exerts over every outlet, and the proof there is no unbiased reporting on Israel/Palestine. Our only accurate source is the civilian journalists being killed in Gaza and having their access to the outside world cut off.

(Before this is reposted and I am accused of being a self-hating Israeli citizen and Jew, I need Zionists to understand that the US military is not Judaism, and making the leap from "the US government exerts control over a lot of media" to "Jews control the media" shows more about you than me.)

[anarcho-yorpism]

Update:

Old UN Headline:

New UN Headline:

Old The Star Headline:

New The Star Headline:

Old SCMP Headline:

New SCMP Headline:

[gigantoimperioum]

As an Israeli who also doesn't support genocide but also have seen the proof provided

I'm sorry but this time the conclusions are either "Islamic jihad have faulty rockets and missed" or "Israel have tried as hard as it can from the start ie using rockets that is Islamic jihad level in order to blame them, and then forgot to blame them for about 5 hours"

Btw I also disagree with saying Israel blames hamas because they don't, they blame the Islamic jihad

Thing is, this bombing looked during before and after like more of a rocket then an air strike, it hit the parking lot while Israel had up until now had apartment level accuracy

And while Israel have still been doing a lot of knock on the roof, and within a couple tens of air strikes often killing maybe a dozen(still bad) showing still at least a certain aversion to killing innocents, the Islamic jihad and hamas had lots of misfires to gaza in the past so I'm sure within the 6000+ some occured

[vyorei-deactivated20251211]

Beautiful display of solidarity ongoing right now from the US calling for a ceasefire in Gaza

Source: @jvplive on Twitter

[gigantoimperioum]

Sure, they will give the kidnappees back, and we will have a cease fire

[zvaigzdelasas]

Likud minister formulates regulations to imprison citizens who 'harm national morale'

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Only democracy in the middle east btw [15 Oct 23]

[zvaigzdelasas]

Knesset advances war-prompted bill to delay municipal elections by 3 months

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Only democracy in the middle east btw [16 Oct 23]

[gigantoimperioum]

While I agree with the first one, it is a little hard to go voting when you are constantly being bombed ofcourse you will delay the election

This is not an American war where you all sit on the sidelines while only the soldiers risk themselves

[zvaigzdelasas]

Interesting justification. I have taken note of it.

Anyway random question - what's your opinion on elections in Gaza & the legitimacy of Hamas as a governing body representing the democratic will of the Gazan populace?

[gigantoimperioum]

It's an interesting questions because then you need to consider Gaza and the west bank as separate entities(which I believe they practically kinda are but have aspirations not to be) because I don't think the voting has taken place in the west bank,also making hamas a more official army and subjecting them to more criticism

[zvaigzdelasas]

Likud minister formulates regulations to imprison citizens who 'harm national morale'

***

Only democracy in the middle east btw [15 Oct 23]

[zvaigzdelasas]

Knesset advances war-prompted bill to delay municipal elections by 3 months

* * *

Only democracy in the middle east btw [16 Oct 23]

[gigantoimperioum]

While I agree with the first one, it is a little hard to go voting when you are constantly being bombed ofcourse you will delay the election

This is not an American war where you all sit on the sidelines while only the soldiers risk themselves

[loving-n0t-heyting]

if you oppose the killing of civilians in the israel/palestine conflict (as you ofc should), you should train yr anger on the side to have routinised the bombing of civilian infrastructure

if you oppose the seizing of hostages (as you ofc should), you should focus on the side now punishing the entirety of gaza by cutting off its electricity

if you oppose violent escalation (as you ofc should), you should look to the side to have triggered this most recent bout of killing by cracking down with police brutality on hundreds of muslim worshipers for the heinous offence of staying overnight in the al-aqsa mosque during ramadan, injuring fifty in the process

the idea that any such considerations would be to israels credit here is offensive; the idea that pointing out which party clearly and eagerly bears the lion's share of blame, both now and historically, somehow means glorifying every ill-considered action undertaken by the islamist paramilitary force israel itself worked to cultivate back at its inception is beyond stupid

[gigantoimperioum]

Excuse me Hamas have been targeting civilians for forever and proud to do it, what do you think is "we will destroy tel Aviv" tel Aviv is not a military base,

[fishing-lesbian-princess]

Just saw someone with “use whatever pronouns you use for yourself for me” in bio. I honestly never considered the depth the pronoun metagame could have, we’ve barely scratched the surface with this shit

[gigantoimperioum]

That's actually interesting, it forces you to see this someone as part of your group and generally avoid negative stereotypes

That said could be interpreted as saying "see me as whichever gender you view more positively" and this feels like gaming the system but not in a good way if you ask me

Depends on your point of view

[fusdoq]

[gigantoimperioum]

Nah the seige can be easily stopped really, its not even that hard, three easy steps

Stop bombing

Stop trying to massacre

Release kidnapped people

And full on release and end of prison naturally happens as trust is gained back(it only started because of attacks first)

How do I know that? Because just recently work visas were recommended for Thousands of Palestinians, and a further solution was discussed because of the Saudis, now it probably won't be happening anytime soon

[loving-n0t-heyting]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/08/gaza-israel-airstrikes-palestinians/

“To all civilians in Gaza, I say, get out of there,” Netanyahu said in a speech late Saturday. But there is no way out for the 2 million people here, who have lived for more than 15 years under a sea, land and air blockade — imposed by Israel and backed by Egypt after Hamas seized power in 2007.

The summit of human cruelty

[loving-n0t-heyting]

What do you call it, when you hold a group of ppl captive, regulate all their access to goods and necessities and the outside world, and shoot members dead virtually at random when they and those who hold them dear take action against you?

Hamas has taken about 100 hostages in the last two days; israel maintains two million hostages as a standing policy

[gigantoimperioum]

I'm sorry but if the main thing the blockade stops is missiles, and the blockade started after a terrorist organization takes control, maybe just maybe the blockade is there for a reason

[argumate]

Israel says Hamas killed 250 people, at least 256 killed in Gaza during retaliatory strikes

so I think by the laws of arithmetic that means a total of -6 people died, well done-- wait is that not how it works? oh, oh god,

[gigantoimperioum]

500, it is now 500 in Israel

[hyperions-fate]

Palestinians demolishing the Erez Military Checkpoint, part of the network of colonial military outposts and border fortifications that have been used to entrench decades of Palestinian dispossession.

[gigantoimperioum]

And then they went straight away to kill innocent people living near

Gosh I wonder why those were there real mystery

[hyperions-fate]

The Israeli state's response to this uprising will be devastating and barbaric. But life as it is now for Palestinians is one of degradation, exile, and murder at the hands of a merciless colonial system. They have chosen to grasp at freedom while they still have a chance, desperate though it may be. Forget the hypocrisy and moral cowardice of those who would deny the Palestinians their lawful right of resistance; the people of Palestine deserve our unwavering support and solidarity.

[gigantoimperioum]

Can't be more barbaric then this pointless uprising, the people of Palestine deserve people who want in their best so they push them towards peace and compromise rather then massacring innocents and celebrating their deaths

[triviallytrue]

Israel-Palestine stuff feels especially bleak to me because I just don't see a path to it ever getting better - it's been the same story for 75 years now and it looks like it'll be the same for the next 75

[gigantoimperioum]

Honestly I think it will get worse before it gets better

While the Palestinian issue seems bleak jewish to Arab Israeli(*there's a reason I make the difference I'll explain later) interactions seem to have gotten better

*The reason I say this is while Israeli treatment of Palestinians have been pretty awful(sometimes for justified security reasons sometimes for unjustified security reasons) the interactions between those inside Israel has gotten better with less and less terror attacks and those usually come from people who were not Israeli citizens

And the day to day have become more entangled with separation in those kind of times

This is thanks to higher education becoming more common amongst both populations allowing them the middle ground to meet

Once these type of relationships become more common the Palestinian issue will suddenly become an issue of our friends within and not our enemies, same for the Palestinians themselves

Just need enough relatively peaceful times, this will not help