As a writer, I want to learn from anything I see. I just watched episode 1 of Vice’s new series, Hate Thy Neighbor. Here’s what I’m thinking:
WHAT DIDN’T WORK: Tell me how you’re not a hate group?
As you can surmise, the show is an investigation into bigotry and extremism. Our host Jamali Maddix spends the episode looking into white supremacy (the backwoods kind, not the White House kind.) He makes the the same stop that everyone seems to make on their tour of white supremacy: a convo with the head of the NSM. After a swastika burning, our host confronts the NSM leader to ask him about something that is clearly bothering Jamali. The group’s online manifesto permits abortion in cases of rape, incest, and race mixing. Jamal asks, “My mom is white and my dad is black, and I find that hateful. How do you then stand here and say you’re not a hate group.”
While you can tell that this question is personal and that Jamili is hurt, this moment is one of the least effective in the whole pilot. It’s not an invitation for his subject to soul search or confront contradictions. Instead, it’s an invitation to say all the white nationalist speaking points that he gets to repeat every time a film crew comes round looking to do an expose on white supremacy. It’s no sweat for the subject to answer. In fact, it’s free advertising for the NSM. The boils down to: I think you’re offensive. Explain to me how you’re not offensive. If it feels familiar, it’s because it is the premise of every argument you’ve ever had on Facebook about guns or Trump or a woman’s right to choose. I think you’re wrong. Explain to me why I’m wrong about you being wrong. There’s no facts or objective ground to stand on in a fight like this. It’s a battle of speaking points. It invites you to fortify your position rather than question it.
The best interview questions are rooted in the objective. For example, W Kamau Bell has a similar but much more successful moment in his #UnitedShades pilot when he asks a white supremacist to explain to him why Bell’s mixed raced daughter would be unwelcome at the compound’s playground. Bell’s not asking his subject to justify why he’s not a bad man. Instead, he’s asking him to clarify the rules of white supremacy, and their shaky justification in the real world. However, neither of these moment is as effective as this next one in which Jamali pulls off an effective closer for the pilot - a moment that sticks with you.
Worked: Tell me how you square those two things in your mind?
After spending a day with a rank and file NSM member and his family, Jamali has an intimate moment with him in the car. This NSM member has two children from a previous marriage who happen to be half0Indian. Jamali asks him point blank to explain how he can ascribe to an ideology that asks the world to see his own biracial children as less-than. You can feel the weight of the silence. It’s a silence filled with the inaudible clicking of gears inside the subject’s head - a temporary shudder in the machine as it is forced to confront a contradiction in his world view. While many by-your-own-logic arguments are self congratulatory and ineffective, this one works. It’s a question asked in good faith, a weapon unsheathed only after a day of non-judgmental rapport building. Before I go, can you just help me understand how can hold these two thoughts in your head?
Make your own questioning as artful as this last example. You’re not looking to win a fight on screen. You don’t spend all that time sneaking behind enemy lines only to blow it all in a fist fight. Instead, you’re there to gather intel. At minimum, you can show the viewer a never-before-seen world. At best, you can humanize, complicate, and give your subject a chance to covert.
I’m not interested in arguments that feel like a Facebook comment war. Nor do I want to come to your farm and watch you shoot guns and then make a bunch of in-studio jokes about how scared I was and how bad guns are. Instead I’m interested in tipping points. How do you get someone to change their mind? How hard do we all work to keep out information that jeopardizes our carefully constructed world view? It’s like watching a child protect a sand castle from the tide. Don’t ruin this, please, its all I have. And whatever your views, we all recognize that feeling. We’ve been that kid on the beach. And for this reason, when TV is able to uncover one of these moments, it always feels so human. We don't need to watch someone walk through the door; we just need to see what they do when presented with the choice. The sound of those gears clicking, the machine shuddering and knocking as it tries to overcome a jam - that’s enough for me.
It feels like the best TV for this era reminds viewers: you have a choice. You can always change your mind.