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Who’s the biggest threat to Dib’s and Abe’s quest to save Earth and Oddworld (and the universe in Dib’s Exoddus)
Zim
Molluck
The Almighty Tallest (Red and Purple)
Lady Margaret
The Control Brains
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Who’s the biggest threat to Dib’s and Abe’s quest to save Earth and Oddworld (and the universe in Dib’s Exoddus)
Zim
Molluck
The Almighty Tallest (Red and Purple)
Lady Margaret
The Control Brains
Zib
Just thought of something cool for Dib in the Oddworld X Invader Zim crossover, a way to help him be on equal grounds with Abe and his abilities. While the stitch-lipped Mudokon can chant and possess his foes, most notably Sligs, I thought of a similar ability that Dib can do. Thanks to assistance of Tak and Sizz-Lorr providing vital data analytics, the human boy can pull out his computer and initiate a program powerful enough to override a nearby Irken’s PAK and take full control over them, hijacking their entire body. The program even has the ability to make Irkens violently self-destruct after their use is finished. However, like Abe, it requires Dib to be at his most vulnerable and be careful with his surroundings. Figured it be a badass idea for one badass paranormal investigator.
Just thought of something cool for Dib in the Oddworld X Invader Zim crossover, a way to help him be on equal grounds with Abe and his abilities. While the stitch-lipped Mudokon can chant and possess his foes, most notably Sligs, I thought of a similar ability that Dib can do. Thanks to assistance of Tak and Sizz-Lorr providing vital data analytics, the human boy can pull out his computer and initiate a program powerful enough to override a nearby Irken’s PAK and take full control over them, hijacking their entire body. The program even has the ability to make Irkens violently self-destruct after their use is finished. However, like Abe, it requires Dib to be at his most vulnerable and be careful with his surroundings. Figured it be a badass idea for one badass paranormal investigator.
So, in my ideas for Dib’s Oddworld Adventures, the timeline is as set. For Invader Zim, it clearly takes place after the cartoons and certain parts of the comics. There are certain twists I’ve decided to take, such as Dib freeing Tak from Moo-Ping 10 in exchange for her assistance against Zim, turning into reluctant allies to curious friends to something very sweet. That takes place in in-between Season 1 and Season 2 of Invader Zim, a month after the S1 finale. Tak later gets in contact with her old friend Sizz-Lorr after the events of his debut episode, allowing Dib to meet him for the first time and forming a trio between them all. As for Oddworld, it’s a bit more complex. Abe’s Oddysee/New N Tasty, Munch’s Oddysee, and Stranger’s Wrath all happened. However, in this timeline, a mixture of Exoddus and Soulstorm happened, considering they’re both very different games. I haven’t worked out the full details, but currently General Dripik and Director Phleg are alive (and serving as Molluck’s two elites), while V.P. Aslik, CEO Morguer, and the Brewmaster all bit the bullet during Soulstorm Brewery’s permanent closure. The Keeper is also around, but is now accompanied by the Three Weirdos, serving as her messengers. She’s also a close friend of Big Face in this continuity. I also want a larger focus on the outer life forces that the IZ show and comics went over in spurts, like Foodcourtia, Vort, Hobo 13, Plim, Devastis, etc. I wanna focus on both world’s of the characters to see how they would function and interact. If anyone’s got any ideas they’d like to throw into the ring, I’d greatly appreciate it.
So, in my ideas for Dib’s Oddworld Adventures, the timeline is as set. For Invader Zim, it clearly takes place after the cartoons and certain parts of the comics. There are certain twists I’ve decided to take, such as Dib freeing Tak from Moo-Ping 10 in exchange for her assistance against Zim, turning into reluctant allies to curious friends to something very sweet. That takes place in in-between Season 1 and Season 2 of Invader Zim, a month after the S1 finale. Tak later gets in contact with her old friend Sizz-Lorr after the events of his debut episode, allowing Dib to meet him for the first time and forming a trio between them all. As for Oddworld, it’s a bit more complex. Abe’s Oddysee/New N Tasty, Munch’s Oddysee, and Stranger’s Wrath all happened. However, in this timeline, a mixture of Exoddus and Soulstorm happened, considering they’re both very different games. I haven’t worked out the full details, but currently General Dripik and Director Phleg are alive (and serving as Molluck’s two elites), while V.P. Aslik, CEO Morguer, and the Brewmaster all bit the bullet during Soulstorm Brewery’s permanent closure. The Keeper is also around, but is now accompanied by the Three Weirdos, serving as her messengers. She’s also a close friend of Big Face in this continuity. I also want a larger focus on the outer life forces that the IZ show and comics went over in spurts, like Foodcourtia, Vort, Hobo 13, Plim, Devastis, etc. I wanna focus on both world’s of the characters to see how they would function and interact. If anyone’s got any ideas they’d like to throw into the ring, I’d greatly appreciate it.
Zim: Hmmm, Big Cheese…Zim approves of this title of “Big Cheese”! Bizarre as it is, the Molluck-Gluk has a reasonable point. If the Almighty Tallest are as Almighty as they say they are, they haven’t appeared to put their worth in capturing the Dib-Stink and that stitch-lipped moron to slice up! Meanwhile, Molluck’s putting all his brain power in organizing the very means necessary to succeed our goals. Is this truly the route of the Irken Empire requires for success? Hmmm…Zim may not know, but I don’t feel conflicted about it. In fact…I like it.
Behold, another concept idea I had for the Oddworld X Invader Zim crossover! I feel like Molluck could have a genuine influence on Zim. Seeing him genuinely be more competent than the Tallest and actually throw his weight around, this might just be me but Molluck is smart enough to at least leave a mark on Zim’s beliefs on what’s best for himself and questioning the leadership of Red and Purple. Why should the two fools that loaf around and not get business done be in charge and not Zim, while not sane, manage to get stuff done and have more experience than anybody else on what they’re dealing with. Molluck sees the true potential in Zim and pushes him into climbing the ranks on his own and understanding true leadership, both in business and murder most foul. They both fell victim to underestimating their enemies, and if their so-called allies won’t see the danger Abe and Dib pose, then they’ll make them see it whether they like it or not! From here on out, Molluck and Zim will be working as equal partners, being their own bosses and gaining their desires through any means necessary.
Zim: Hmmm, Big Cheese…Zim approves of this title of “Big Cheese”! Bizarre as it is, the Molluck-Gluk has a reasonable point. If the Almighty Tallest are as Almighty as they say they are, they haven’t appeared to put their worth in capturing the Dib-Stink and that stitch-lipped moron to slice up! Meanwhile, Molluck’s putting all his brain power in organizing the very means necessary to succeed our goals. Is this truly the route of the Irken Empire requires for success? Hmmm…Zim may not know, but I don’t feel conflicted about it. In fact…I like it.
Behold, another concept idea I had for the Oddworld X Invader Zim crossover! I feel like Molluck could have a genuine influence on Zim. Seeing him genuinely be more competent than the Tallest and actually throw his weight around, this might just be me but Molluck is smart enough to at least leave a mark on Zim’s beliefs on what’s best for himself and questioning the leadership of Red and Purple. Why should the two fools that loaf around and not get business done be in charge and not Zim, while not sane, manage to get stuff done and have more experience than anybody else on what they’re dealing with. Molluck sees the true potential in Zim and pushes him into climbing the ranks on his own and understanding true leadership, both in business and murder most foul. They both fell victim to underestimating their enemies, and if their so-called allies won’t see the danger Abe and Dib pose, then they’ll make them see it whether they like it or not! From here on out, Molluck and Zim will be working as equal partners, being their own bosses and gaining their desires through any means necessary.
Dib: Consider this payback for the Dookie Loop Horror, Zim.
HAPPY 25TH ANNIVERSARY TO DIB MEMBRANE AND HIS ECCENTRIC MISADVENTURES!!!
A lookback at “Enter the Florpus”
It still kind of amazes me that this movie pulled off the dual accomplishments of providing pay-off to a set-up from 18 years earlier (see also: Hey Arnold!: The Jungle Movie, which did the same for a 15 year old set-up) and providing genuine depth and meaning to both itself and the series it’s a finale to in spite of the absurdist “Lol, random!” seeming surface level.
In “The Nightmare Begins”, we see the Almighty Tallest have their eyes set on expanding the Irken Empire, but don’t want Zim to take part of it because they hate him, which leads them to send him on what they believe to be a fool’s errand to the farthest edges of the universe. But of course, Zim ended up persevering and continuing to annoy the Tallest with his belief that he’s a legitimate Invader in Operation Impending Doom II. “Enter the Florpus” gives us the ultimate breaking point, where the Tallest actually end up destroying their entire operation and empire because they are consumed by their hatred of Zim and desire to flat-out kill him.
In “The Nightmare Begins”, the fool’s errand Zim is sent on is to conquer a planet the Almighty Tallest don’t even believe to exist…which, of course, it does: it’s Earth. The following series is all about Zim’s trying and failing to conquer Earth for the Irken Empire’s sake, and in “Enter the Florpus” Zim finally realizes the futility of his efforts when he learns the Tallest have no interest in coming to Earth (although he believes it to be the direct result of all his failures rather than it being the way the Tallest have always felt) and sinks into a depression.
In “The Nightmare Begins”, Zim is firmly established as an incompetent buffoon who will inevitably screw up his plans for conquering Earth. But after shaking off his depression in “Enter the Florpus”, Zim actually becomes so laser-focused on the goal he now sees finally within his reach that he becomes a successful threat. Of course, even at his most competent Zim is still a screw-up, as carrying out his plan ends up creating a Florpus that threatens to destroy Earth, which would leave the Tallest with no planet to conquer even if they wanted to.
In “The Nightmare Begins”, there is a climactic chase, with Dib in pursuit of Zim. Here, your sympathies are with Zim, who has just gotten to Earth and is at a disadvantage, not to mention Dib is motivated purely by his ego. The climax of “Enter the Florpus” also features Dib chasing Zim, but now the sympathies are reversed: Dib, fresh off seemingly losing his father, is motivated by the genuine desire to save Earth, while Zim holds the advantage.
In “The Nightmare Begins”, Gaz is established through swearing her older brother Dib will pay for drinking the last soda, showing that she has a fairly contentious relationship with him. In “Enter the Florpus”, Gaz ends up being the one to encourage Dib when he’s at his lowest point, expressing that no matter how much he annoys her and how often they clash, he’s still her brother whom she cares for (much needed after Season 2 flanderized her so badly).
In “The Nightmare Begins”, Professor Membrane is established by not listening to what Dib has to say since he’s busy with something, flat-out dismissing him when he tries. He keeps this up throughout the series, naturally giving Dib the impression that his father isn’t proud of his weirdo son and that exposing Zim will rectify that. In “Enter the Florpus”, in a dramatic moment Professor Membrane reveals that Dib doesn’t have to prove anything because he’s always proud of him - he genuinely never considered that his dismissiveness when busy would give Dib the impression it did because he took it as a given that his children knew he loved them and was proud of them. Now that he realizes his mistake, he showcases his development by spending the rest of the movie more attentive and openly caring toward Dib.
Speaking of Professor Membrane’s development, I feel this moment in the climax deserves more attention. Professor Membrane spends the movie thinking the whole fantastical scenario he’s in is just a dream, since everything going on is so unscientific and he can’t grasp that it could possibly be real. However, when it comes time to save Earth through a literal Yes or No selection, we see him hesitate and almost press No before then pressing Yes. So much said here without any dialogue: Professor Membrane realizes that if he presses Yes, then he’s lending this whole crisis legitimacy…he’s practically admitting that it’s not a dream and is really happening. Pressing No to not save Earth since, hey, it’s all a dream anyway…that’s more in line with what he wishes to believe. However, he still presses Yes. Why? Because even if it is a dream, he couldn’t bring himself to let his children perish. If it’s a dream and he has total control, then there’s no excuse for him to condemn even dream versions of his children to their doom along with the rest of the planet. When it mattered most, the man’s love for his kids overcame his rational scientific mind. And that’s just beautiful.
I also want to mention how wonderfully the movie solidified Dib and Zim as foils of one another. Both of them are the same but different. They are the same in that their egomania and desire to protect or conquer Earth conceals a fragile core: deep down they are insecure losers who just want to receive validation from someone they look up to - for Dib, his father, and for Zim, the Almighty Tallest. It’s what leads to Dib empathizing with Zim, and trying to help him even though it backfires horribly. But they are different in that not only does Dib start to evolve past his delusions while Zim only sinks further into them, but also their efforts are proven futile for entirely opposite reasons. Dib can never make his father proud of him because his father loves him and is already proud of him…he doesn’t need to accomplish any grand feat to prove himself to him. Zim, on the other hand, can never make the Tallest proud of him because the Tallest hate him and anything he does, even successfully, will only piss them off more as they just want to be rid of him. It really is two sides of a single coin.
Finally, the ending of the movie - and series - is just perfect, with the “lol, random!” veneer concluding the main characters in a random religious allegory. The Membrane family are left off in a state of Heaven: they love each other and are happily seated at the table for dinner. They even have a new member in Clembrane, whose existence confirms the prior ordeal to have not been a dream but Professor Membrane hilariously sticks to that story anyway because he’ll be damned if he ever admits something so unscientific out loud. The Almighty Tallest are left off in a state of Hell, literally trapped in a fiery inferno within the Florpus (and for added karma, they’re puppets now). And Zim, with GIR and Minimoose still at his side, is left off in a state of Purgatory. Never the model of sanity to begin with, Zim’s biggest and most competently executed plan failing and dooming the Irken Empire in the process has caused him to fully retreat from reality - he now claims stealing a clown doll from Dib’s house was the plan all along, makes outrageous false statements like “Zim always wins!”, and takes the Tallest’s screaming as they dance in the Florpus’ flames as a “yes” when asking if they are pleased with him as an Invader. He’s never going to stop making screwball plans to conquer Earth for the Irken Empire even when there is no more Irken Empire. The good news is that Dib will doubtlessly be all too willing to humor him, so it is kind of a happy ending for him too.
Invader ZIM: Enter the Florpus - it truly is one of the smartest dumbest movies ever.
I had a thought that Dib and Tak gave lowkey Felix/Calhoun vibes and this happened. Ignore how ooc the dialogue is, I couldn’t think of a better script at 11pm.
I feel at some point Tak eventually puts up with Dib because he’s one of the few people she can’t control/erase memories from. He’s still no match for her by any means, but while she’s on earth with little to no allies, might as well until slowly they start to form a begrudging friendship between the two.
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Phew it's dooooone. Been working on this since yesterday night (like 1 AM - 6 PM) but it was worth it :') who doesn't like some a n g s t?
It’s a start….
Something about this scene looks familiar
Masterpost
Membrane only refers to his offspring by their names in special circumstances….
Y’all mind if I just…… *rewrites the entire ending to ETF* There, I fixed it.
Dear Mr.Vasquez, if an Invader Zim reboot ever happens, please don’t revert things to the status-quo. I don’t think my heart could take it.
I know Membrane became a somewhat controversial character in the fandom after ETF came out. But I actually do want him to grow and change and be better, and he was obviously taking steps in the right direction, but I think Membrane realized he has to do more. I based a lot of this conversation off of an experience I have had with my own parents, “meeting halfway” as it were.
Dib and Membrane speak the exact same language and are very much alike, but they miss the mark entirely when it comes to communicating with each other. Dib is still a moron, and Professor Membrane is still a moron, but it is a start.
You can’t have “found family” without finding the family you had all along after all.
This explains Dib’s rabid behavior toward Zim after the events of the Florpus make way more sense.
And for how feral and aggressive Dib acts, people forget he’s just a kid…a pretty average 12 year old boy actually….. and I know Dib isn’t a character who cries very often….. but from some dialogue in ETF, it’s implied that Gaz has seen Dib cry before…. You can’t tell me that all of that doesn’t get to him sometimes.
Also no one tell Dib he’s a fictional character. It would break him
Things in Psychonauts 2 that bring me endless joy #524: Raz proudly calling Dogen his friend every chance he gets
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I love when Dib and Tak sit next to each other while playing with their cats, Cat Lovers 😆