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How collars attach to cassocks

Plus some info on how cassocks work in general

Disclaimer: there is a ton of variation between denominations and time periods, the exact details differ slightly in some styles.

TL;DR: Depending on the priest (or the weather) it'll either be a rabat collar that only extends a few inches under the cassock, or it'll be a neckband collar attached to a shirt under the cassock.

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Im focusing mostly on the type that would be worn with a cassock, but there are regular shirt styles too.

Option 1: A Rabat Collar.

Snaps or buttons to hold it shut in the back (and in some options, to hold it to the collar of the cassock). The one pictured also has snaps to keep the front of the cassock flush to it.

Undershirt optional it seems, because [this bishop] doesn't seem to be wearing one with his.

They also come in a variety of lengths, the shortest go under a cassock, but the longer ones can go under sweaters, suit jackets, etc.

Option 2: A Neckband Shirt

These things have so much variety and so many buttons lmao.

Some of them have the black part of the roman collar built into the shirt, others have it removable entirely.

The removable ones have buttons in the back and front that attach the collarette to the shirt, these buttons usually get hidden under the outermost layer of fabric.

These shirts can be worn by themselves in black, but if they're going under a cassock it's usually white. French cuffs are common on the white ones.

Option 3: Directly Attached?

I didn't find anything specific about this but looking at the screenshot at the very top, it appears some cassocks have button holes to attach the collar band directly. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Cassocks in general:

Typically fitted like a coat in the upper half with enough extra fabric in the skirt to move freely. Using Father David Michael here because he's the first priest I could think of who wears a cassock regularly. Also, based on being able to see down his sleeve on the far left, he's wearing a rabat collar or similar.

The cincture band (called a fascia, or sometimes girdle) is two pieces: a band around the waist and the extra fabric draped over it. This one closes with velcro.

Cassocks traditionally have 33 buttons down the front, symbolic of Jesus's 33 years of life, and are supposed to be fully buttoned all the way down. (I wear mine wrong irl, only buttoned on the upper half because I cannot be assed to get them all lmao) There are 5 buttons on the cuff, symbolic of Jesus's five wounds on the cross (each hand and foot, plus the side wound). [x]

Colors: priests are all black, Monsignors have purple (magenta in my opinion) piping and buttons, and Cardinals have red piping and buttons or a fully red cassock in formal situations.

And yes, they are definitely supposed to be wearing pants under there. Unless... 😏?

groovylita

Omgg didn't know this

Also look Jesuit drip🔥🔥🔥what is the warning tho

vioventures

Ikevil's themes of "freedom" keeps clashing with the fact that they serve actual Queen Victoria there, and I know that historically the British empire flourished and sustained on colonialism, slavery, godawful working conditions in factories - very much trampling on people's freedom- its affecting my suspension of disbelief in a way ikepri doesn't because ikepri had made up countries that are only aesthetically similar to real countries. Only when I remember its the same universe as ikevamp I'm like "woa calm down girl its not that serious this is the same universe where historical figures came back as sexy vampires in the 19th century Paris"

Part of it is that despite serving directly under the Queen, the scale of stakes is lower than ikepri. Ikepri gets hella dramatic quickly, especially when gilbert gets involved. Its like "we gotta,save the whole country!!"while ikevil has the more personal stakes of saving the suitor's life, MC's life, and ordinary people that end up in horrible situations. Since ikevil and ikevamp are in the same universe we know nothing that actually alters history will happen, but they have introduced the secret world of The Cursed that CAN be affected, even if it's not like in the future everyone will know about cursed people and vampires. (Plz don't completely redcon the ikevamp crossover plzzz)

And the thing is!!! The guys are supposed to be aware of their own evil, but they don't at any point tackle this disparity regarding queen Victoria. There.s some potetial that they might touch on it in Victor's route since he's close to her but i know ultimately the story will be about Victor and MC and they will not betray crown or the Queen.

The privy council are cartoonishly evil, but bruh! They always try to pin crimes on crown that they didn't commit cuz trying expose their REAL crimes to the public would betray the queen and create anarchy. Because crown is supposed to be secret. Through crown, the queen exercises her power as monarch to sentence people that cannot be caught by the normal law in secret. Doing anything like this in plain daylight would be considered Tyranny (winks at William) It's like they tryna avoid a French revolution and reign of terror. She gets to maintain public appearances, and then still have crown act in secret. The only reason we never question it is because crown are always sent after human traffickers and corrupt nobles and lowest scum you can imagine. In that way, the queen herself is a necessary evil. At least in this universe. And I'll take a moment to aknowledge that Victoria didn't CREATE the empire, she INHERITED it. If the writers mean for her to be somewhat a good person, she probably would want to do better than rulers before her.

There is that one story event where MC has to disguise as the queen during an event and they catch an assassin. I would like to hear what reasons people have to want the queen dead 🤚 yeah,that's the one where she describes the queen in her head as "someone who gave up their freedom" and it feels like bullshit cuz she's the fucking ruling monarch. The one most powerful person in england. The only character even close to understand my grievances and haterism rn is Jude, that bitter old wench (affectionate). Like I think Victor and William must Know This, but ultimately serve the queen and created crown. And then there's Harri who knows Victor is lying about something to everyone. It might be this.

groovylita

THANK YOU I think about this so often

Funny thing is that ikevamp actually does acknowledge the British empire as, at least, dangerous. And I mention this because it's already known both games are situated in the same universe.

Spoilers for Drake's main route and Arthur's sequel below↓

#ikemen series #ikemen villians #ikemen vampire

loveinthemaze

Honestly I wish Cybird would plan a game's main storylines and finish them instead of constantly release new concepts within a game hoping it'll make fans keep playing. Like the more "concepts"/extra storylines there are (eg. IkeSen adding 10 (!) new characters, adding sequels, eternal routes, and now continuation routes) the heavier the loss is once they can't run the game anymore. It's not like Cybird doesn't know their games won't last forever, so why not take a new approach to ending a game instead of "oh shit it's not profitable enough so lets shut down the game even tho fans are attached"?

groovylita

Ikesen UI is old and chopped so they made a brand new game with better UI and are slowly transfering all the content

And with the new game they started arc 3 which includes FIVE NEW CHARACTERS

I insist that's way smarter than starting a whole new game with a whole new story and stuff, but why that many new characters???? Could've been like two and it'd be alright

Also yes, the older UIs might be chopped but they have almost no bugs at all, meanwhile ikevil or ikepri glitch all the time??????

kbius6

It's going to take me a while but I'm going to try to record every single "Saved Story" I have. Most of them are just the one-off rewards from events and majority of the "series" kind of ones (Like the Mafia AU one) I only have parts of. But still, better than it all disappearing imo.

Im uploading everything as unlisted on my YouTube with an unlisted playlist to make it easier to find them all(unlisted so hopefully they won't get taken down) but since YouTube is going to hell(at least here in the US) rn if anyone has any better solutions let me know. Or download and upload them wherever yourself, I don't care 🖤

kbius6

It's going to take me a while but I'm going to try to record every single "Saved Story" I have. Most of them are just the one-off rewards from events and majority of the "series" kind of ones (Like the Mafia AU one) I only have parts of. But still, better than it all disappearing imo.

Im uploading everything as unlisted on my YouTube with an unlisted playlist to make it easier to find them all(unlisted so hopefully they won't get taken down) but since YouTube is going to hell(at least here in the US) rn if anyone has any better solutions let me know. Or download and upload them wherever yourself, I don't care 🖤

rjthirsty

Hey pals. Maybe we can take a step back and critically think before buying into Cybird closing down other English branches? I do understand that people are emotional about the end of updates to Ikemen Vampire, and it's sad, yeah. I've been around for some time and I've seen games start and stop more times than I want to recall, but it's a part of the life of a game. It sucks, but it happens.

I've seen a post floating around that it seems people are buying into about Ikemen Sengoku closing because Mitsuhide's sequel was teased, and Kenshin's just came out a month ago. This is jumping to conclusions that have very little merit.

User @/reccyls updates a lot of info about the Ikemen games, and they've even pinned a handy dandy spreadsheet that lists all the announcements for routes. I've used this for years to eagerly await favorites. There are some things we can point out that make this fear of Sengoku closing nothing more than panicked thoughts.

First, to remind everyone, Sengoku used to be two years ahead of English. They've been steadily closing that gap, and now we're roughly a year behind.

Sequels are shorter than main routes, they take less time to translate. Eternal routes are even shorter, and we have seen them release eternal routes between Japan and English in under 6 months.

Kenshin's sequel was released in October of 2024, and Mitsuhide's was released in December 2024. That's two months, guys. Guess what? The tease for Mistuhide would put his release right on schedule for two months from Kenshin's.

If we're panicking over sequels so close together, or being announced early, then Prince has every indication of also being closed since Clavis' sequel came out early and Sariel's has already been announced early as well. It's literally the same time frame, two months between, but where's the panic? Please don't panic.

Could it happen? Sure. But using a sequel tease as a reason to justify the possibility is letting emotions overrule critical thinking. Especially when it is following their totally normal pattern for releases they have been doing for six years.

I'd honestly worry more that Japan Vampire will cease to get updates soon and they just haven't announced it yet. Leonardo was the last route released in December 2024, and nothing is in the wings as far as I know.

jojonatue

Book Cover Art for one of the Ikevamp fanfic book on my Wattpad! I had such a fun time drawing this. SOO CUTEEE 😭😭😭

If any of yall ask who I like, Sebastian is my favorite because he cooks, cleans, bro got that humor AND he's a butler. SIGN ME UPPPP HAHAHA

Technically if you do read any of my fanfic stories on there, you will see out of the many stories Sebastian is always somewhat there 💀

kitsurei17

[IkeVamp] Leonardo da Vinci Sequel Translation Masterlist

This is a fan translation... it will not be 100% accurate. I am not fluent in Japanese, so expect mistakes and grammatical errors. I may also take creative liberties which won't fully capture the nuance/tone of the original text, and it may end up differing (greatly) from the EN localization of Leonardo. All original content and media used belongs to Cybird. Please do NOT repost these translations on any other platform and/or claim the translations as your own.

cirilla-fiona-riannon

Ikevamp 8th Anniversary

mneiai

Fucked up Leon related thought I always have: Leon was NEVER freed.

ikeprinces-stuff

There's was no reason for me to read this first thing in the morning...

True, Leon wasn't free and will never be free. He merely moved from the life of slavery to a life he was forced to live as a substitute, nothing more. But this life he was given at least gave him a chance to change the world, or at least his own world.

It's true that he wasn't freed, but he gave freedom to the former slaves, a freedom that he couldn't and won't be able to have. The only thing that came as a positive result here is that he now lives authentically.

groovylita

Damn right

After all he never stopped doing the work he was sold for

bloemrijk

if anyone sees that I uploaded a video somewhere on the archives and is interested in helping some way, I would find it to be a HUGE help to have another person transcribing the video. Honestly, that’s partially why I’ve had a long pause, transcribing one single segment can take hours or days depending on how busy I am. Even if it’s one extra person and they are only able to help with a video every once in a while, it would still be a huge help.

I know that I could just leave only the video, but honestly that’s a huge risk should something happen to the videos themselves. Plus not everyone has time or wants to watch all videos for a single line.

#the cradle archives #ikerev #ikemen revolution

yanderepuck

So you still want to read Ikevamp?

I can help! Still want to read ikevamp and you have patience? You are in fact able to go into the app store and download the jp app!

Now I do have an android phone so I don't know how different this is to apple.

But you can search any cybird game, and when you select a game just tap on the name "cybird" and you can see all of their apps (I find this easier than just looking for the Japanese version)

Then from there you can download it! (I will be redownloading it soon)

The app layout is exactly the same so if you know the current lay out by heart than hitting buttons to get through the game isn't an issue. Now for translating

I have only ever used this one. I don't know if there are better ones, but this is the one I have used. You need a LOT of patience and to be able to understand broken English quite well. The translation IS NOT PERFECT. I won't be. You will have to take everything with a grain of salt and sort of have to figure out things yourself. BUT THAT IS ANY TRANSLATION APP.

When you download it, you will have to make you allow the app to display over other apps

You will have to use the screen record action with it. You do need patience doing this. It takes a long time to get through the daily 5 chapters because you have to stop on every slide and let the app translate.

Now what if you don't have patience?

That's the hard part now. As far as I am aware no one has translated Leonardo's sequel. The JP fandom as sorta left tumblr from what it seems. I don't hear many updates from the jp server honestly.

BUT. If you are interested in learning more about Drake and Galileo, you 100% should look at @cirilla-fiona-riannon

I am so so so so SO SO GRATEFUL FOR YOU I DON'T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND.

They have translated other ikemen games as well, but I'm talking about ikevamp. They have translated most of Drake's events and a good amount of Galileo's.

Reading these events is what made me fall for Drake honestly, not his route.

Here is a link to the ikevamp translations. Like I said it is mainly Drake and Galileo, but it will help wish getting to know the characters more since we won't be getting that in en now

If anyone can recommend other translation apps, or if you know of translators on other sites, please let me know!

foopet

an old drawing I did of Theo that I never posted.

groovylita

Seriously considering the idea of making a YouTube channel exclusively to upload ikevamp routes hmm tho I'm not sure I could pay for a good screen recorder

groovylita

Okay so at some point –as soon as possible– I'm planning on making a shared(?) Google Drive folder, so that more people can colaborate with any content they can.

Said folder would be mostly visual content: cards, letters and even screenshots if you want. Even better if we can save animated cards as GIFs or something. Voice lines could be included too...

Please note that, if I do this, it might take time, so be patient.

Idk if there's anyone out there who's making a similar project, in that case I'd thank you a lot if you reblog this, so that you can help me reach them.🩷

bontu-the-l0ver

If cybird sues I will kill them for you pookie

groovylita

I don't think so lol after all it's a dead game😭😭😭 they're the ones who don't plan on making money with it anymore

scummy-writes

Ikevamp was the game that pushed me to make stationery. It's obviously been a long time since I've written anything related to ikevamp, but here is the mock letter paper I made for Napoleon, Mozart, Arthur, Isaac, Vincent, Theo, Comte, Dazai, Sebastian, and Leonardo.

It's not perfect, the files themselves haven't been updated since 2020, but please feel free to use them if you want to print out any letters from the game you enjoyed. (Or create new ones!)

If you're interested, I also have an envelope set here, and another here. Neither of the envelope sets include the two newest characters since they were made before they were announced (I also don't have their emblems or signatures)

scummy-writes

Consider.

- Cybird's console game will be a game with a DEFINITE end to it.

- if said console game goes well, they could invest in making more games with an END to them.

- if they get support for this, its possible that they will consider porting old titles onto consoles.

Again.

- If they get support for this, its possible they will consider porting old titles onto consoles.

Further consider, on their japanese fanclub site, they try to keep old data of their older titles up for people to view. Like some routes/events from what I can parse.

Okay. Now further consider.

What has been a huge complaint about ikesen (that I have seen at least)? The UI being awful. The current app being terrible because its so old. And after YEARS.... they're making a NEW APP with updated UIs...its almost as if they likely listened to fans and tried to update it?

So Cybird is exploring:

- updating old apps to brand new ones to combat shitty old uis and similar

- exploring CONSOLE GAMES with an ENDING to it.

And some of yall wanna boycott that? You want to...punish them, for trying to do major changes based off of what the fanbases have complained about?

Yeah, that won't bite us in the ass, I'm sure of it.

groovylita

Absolutely yes

Getting angry and not wanting to support new projects as a way to protest is normal, I feel that way honestly

But this is the rational answer, if we support the new ikesen game we *might* get a chance they do the same with other old games and *mayybeee** get them in EN as well

yanderepuck

Maybe if they were willing to listen to fans and what they want..the game wouldn't be dying.

Cybird things that once the app is created that they can't make changes to it

The reason why ikesen is getting a new app is to reformat it to function more like ikevil.

They seem to be unaware that they can just change/update current apps..which is what most games do. Your writing style is supposed to improve with time but theirs only improves with each game.

And updating things like that are super important RN bc otome is held to a MUCH higher standard, and I will admit, ikevamp no longer reaches that standard. Once you start interacting with other times you realize that cybird isn't actually that great at what they do bc they will not give updated content, these updates only go to new games.

They focus too much on JP and don't look at the en server..WHICH IS THE REST OF THE WORLD. They base stories off who is popular in JP and give them the most effort, which yes..I understand why they do it is a JAPANESE game.

But in en they raise heart requirements to everything, and then for characters that are low ranking in JP..they are high in en so the story is mid bc they didn't put in as much effort. They do it with Comte all the time. He's low in JP but fairly high in en and his stories are not worth 500+ hearts

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