[harleybutch]

INTRODUCTION

Radfem Desisted/Detrans Butch Lesbian, 20.

Anti Gender Ideology/Roles, Anti Sex Work, Anti BDSM/Abuse, Anti Beauty Industry, Pro Homosexual, Pro Female Liberation

I would really love to make friends on radblr, especially other lesbians, so don't be scared to send a dm.

Going to ramble post about radfem stuff + my detrans experience.

[harleybutch]

3 1/2 years since detrans/desisted, 3 1/2 years sh clean this month now :'-) there is nothing wrong with being butch!!

[harleybutch]

What a Lesbian is? A gay woman that opposes TERFs and Cathy Brennan's anti-trans dating scam. Nice Mat Walshing there Orangefem.

Andddd what is a gay woman? You just changed the wording from lesbian to gay.

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TRAS love to post a picture of an obvious transgender and then put the caption as "where's the "we can always tell" crowd at NOW?!?!?"... Still here.

Affirming eachothers delusions like no other as always.

[harleybutch]

"Let themselves be" oh little asshole you can't leave the trans minority alone.

We do want to leave you alone. Women have wanted female sex only dating apps and TIMs have shut it down. I'll answer your one billion anons when you can tell me what the definition of a lesbian is, spoonbread.

[harleybutch]

People need to stop thinking about their identity on every single level and just let themselves be. Everything else comes naturally.

[harleybutch]

You do kmow saying and chanting "all men are evil monsters" and getting people to believe that just reinforces the patriarchy, right? Like if there isn't a way for men to change and be better why woild they? And if all men are trash why would a straight woman who wants a relationship work to find a good guy when all are bad?

Actually, when you quote someone, you actually have to say what they directly said. I hope you know that. But misinformation is common with your crowd, anyway. Nobody said all men are monsters or trash or evil. Even if you thought it was something I thought, it was never said. This is a perfect example of how your community jumps topics to make yourselves seem morally better.

I had said that nothing comes out of having sex with men. Which is statistically correct. It takes two seconds to look up the things I had said.

[harleybutch]

So you thought you were a guy, did nothing to physically change that, and now are mad at trans people?

I did have physical changes after harm infliction and I also had attempted to bind for a bit as a young teenager, just not to medically transition, although I would've if I hadn't gotten away from it all, after the result of fearmongering from both professionals and the trans community. Without them, I wouldn't have gone down that rabbit hole and would have accepted myself as the only reality, which is homosexual. I did not think I was a guy until that idea was hand fed to me. I was barely FIFTEEN years old.

I think you are misunderstanding the part where I am not just mad at them for telling me that I was born in the wrong body and grooming minors such as myself, but they expect to invade lesbian and single sex spaces that we have fought to keep. Any person with half a brain would absolutely be mad at that. They are homophobic and sexist.

[harleybutch]

Actually, I believe that a large chunk of desisted people DO have physical damage, which is why I draw a blurry line between being "desisted" and "detrans" as a physical results matter. I would argue that a lot of desisted have irrepable damage inflicted on their body due to self harm. With all due respect, because I have gone through the same thing, the one thing I notice is that most detrans people have scars. Some will attempt to mutilate themselves, on genitals, without surgery. Some will have permanent nerve damage. Some will feel outcasted from society, unable to hide it. Some will get infections that can ruin the purpose of said limb. Some will be given up on entirely, because the system refuses to speak about this shit.

A lot of the time, detrans are often targeted at some vulnerable and confusing time in their life, normally their teens. As a teen, I definitely had a lot of time to be surrounded and let these communities take over my life, and everyone also went through quarantine as well. Trans Ideology centers itself around fear mongering when gaining new victims, and a large portion of that fear mongering is about death or harm to yourself.

Obviously, with the time you have on your hands to think about it, you have just as many hours to sit inflicting harm to yourself.

Self-inflicted scars are going to be visible every day, on the parts of your body you personally see often, a constant reminder of that era of your life. It is a physical change that you can not get rid of without treatment. For that reason, I believe that being desisted is more than just being desisted, or having a change of heart.

[harleybutch]

Having sex with terfs is degrading and abusive, they never reveal their gender critical beliefs in early dating. It's filthy to fool Lesbians into making out with Heritage foundation allies.

Terfs don't want to date the same people who love and support their oppressors. You should understand that after the amount of demand there is for single sex spaces for lesbians.

Also, I doubt you even know what a lesbian is. Explain it to me, what is a lesbian?

[harleybutch]

I think having sex with men in general is degrading.

Men do not view women as people in sexual interactions but instead a physical object, like a sex toy. Women gain nothing out of sex with men, emotionally or physically. Refer to the orgasm gap, the number of posts that are somewhere along the lines of "when he falls asleep so I (thankfully) don't have to live up to my promise!", "locker room" talk making your detailed sex life known to any man he talks to, and the top porn categories, which are all based around the man receiving in some sort. No man watches porn about eating pussy and loving a woman because that's nowhere close to their desires. If not directly receiving, it is some other degrading/nonconsentual situation that can file under being a "kink" for them.

But a mans demand doesn't stop at consent or "kinks" even solely being in the bedroom. There is a hole that grows larger and larger, demanding more and more violence until boundaries are nonexistent. The demand is quite literally endless, and if you don't fill it, he will find another way.

Women do not benefit from sex with men.

[harleybutch]

There is no "good" TIM. There is no exception. When I was a TRA, I used to hang out with more than a couple of TIMs. Every single one, even when they didn't know each other, ended up the exact same way when we broke off.

There's a clear pattern, not unjustified "hate".

Everything that is in your schedule, your wardrobe, your personality, is a fetish to them. They have a fetish for passing, for the thought of going stealth and revealing themselves after. It is always "am I passing enough to go into [female space]?" Spaces are their first concern because they want to dive into the fetish right away.

They end up seeking the verbal support of female friends more than anything. I can not even begin to explain the amount of verbal support they had wanted, but nobody else in the groups were ever asked themselves because I was the only female and the only lesbian. If I denied that support, things got verbally abusive or physical.

They are ALL the exact same because it is the same fetish at play.

[harleybutch]

Today was one of the few days I've really sat down and thought about my detrans experience and completely ruled out that there were zero good intentions. Those professionals who lied to me and said they were there to help me used my trauma to their advantage.

I was first lightly treading into transgender identifying when I was 15 and talking to adults online who, looking back, just had a fetish about it all. I pushed it all down. When I got my first therapist, it was a slight topic brought up a couple of times, resulting in negative things for me. Then, I moved on to my second therapist. The first day she had met me, she told me that I was trans. That I would need to social transition in at least two months. Basically said that my same sex attraction and my uncomfortable feelings with a teenage body were somehow rooted to this. Told my parents the whole nine yards. It devastated me so much and gave me such a complex identity crisis now that I was fully listening to these professionals. My therapist was the one to cause my relapse, and I came out worse and more self-hating than I had gone in. At this point in my life, I had considered mutilating my body myself out of the fear mongering they had given me, that if I didn't transition, I'd be dead.

I came out of that office later and went on to find my third therapist. I found it reasonable, and none of that was brought up, but with the approach of the last ones, I still felt like something was terribly wrong with me. That all that abuse that I endured that made me uncomfortable with my body and being perceived was somehow my fault and had a tie to gender. Every time I went to distance myself away from these identities, or express dislike, people around me would shun me. It just felt like an odd limbo where I had to ignore it all.

I felt like I was in a complete stage of psychosis from 17 until now.

[harleybutch]

Don't even make an attempt to argue with me. How about suck my clit. How about that. How about suck my fat clit

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Happy pride to the REAL homos

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I understand that desisted people do not go through hormones and face permanent damage through medical intervention, but people act as if the phase is experimental and just a quirky time of your life if you are. But that phase had once consumed me.

You are skating on thin ice with these communities. Being told that if you don't get medical intervention, you will die. Delving into self-harm. Hypersexualizing. Burying your same sex attraction like it's something to be ashamed of. The possibility of causing damage to your body through binding. Losing friends. Mentally degrading yourself ever time you look into a mirror because of your biological reality.

It consumes every bit of your life. So no, it's not a silly pronouns changing phase. It is traumatizing.

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Modern homophobia was honestly depressing me for a while before I went back into radfem based communities. It is a wild thing to experience, the outcast of a homosexual in a group that you are supposed to belong to, pushed out by activists who do the exact opposite of what they say they're doing. For as long as you are homosexual, you will be the devil himself to them.