Blog dedicated to shipping characters in Spindlehorse/Amazon's shows Hazbin Hotel & Helluva Boss
because this apparently actually needed to be said somehow, if you hate on romantic & sexual shipping of aro(/)ace fictional characters solely in the name of anti-aphobia, suck my purple arse and choke on my green heart you moronic cunts.
if it just ain't for you for whatever other reason, we chillin no sweat. this one specific reason just really brings out some venom in me
insert that one i don't support v*vziepop thing gif banner wtvr. the ideas of the characters just make my brain go ooooo~oooooo~~
Tag Guide
nb shipping here is exploration of relationships: not necessarily romantic relationships; not necessarily sexual relationships; not necessarily healthy relationships. This sign'll be tapped when relevant.
i will also fuck with characters' genders & sexualities as & when. bite me.
#[character name] shipping
eg blitzø shipping, adam shipping, husker shipping, beelzebub shipping
general tag for any shipping content of a character
Alastor & Valentino also have "[name] [canon/fanon] shipping" tags
Vox & Stolas also have an "insta [name] shipping" tag
Husker has an "overlord husker" tag
These secondary tags are used in addition to the character's base tags on my own posts. Reblogged shipping content only includes the base tags out of politeness regardless of character depiction with the exception of “overlord [name]” tags if evident or acknowledged by the OP.
#outsider shipping
general tag for any cross ships, here meaning any ship that involves at least one non-Vivziepop character
#[hellaverse/hazbin/helluva] ship songs
tag for exploring songs that fit with ships
hellaverse version is tagged on both hazbin & helluva posts, acting as a full collection
Hazbin & Helluva tags will only be added if a character from the respective series is involved. eg a post only about a Chaggie song will not have the "helluva ship songs" tag
#[hellaverse/hazbin/helluva] pride
tag for lgbt+ (and likely disability) & hellaverse related posts like headcanons, explorations of character identity, and flag edits with characters on top
#[hellaverse/hazbin/helluva] fandom pride
tag for flags that represent characters & ships. this is an old activity from a nowadays dead ahh fandom, easy to do as an alternative to symbol drawing. these are not intended to be identities or kin flags but if they're used that way then c'est la vie.
This post is a masterpost with links to all posted flags. I will attempt to keep this updated.
I use this website to make these flags if you want to make some too!
Specialist Ship tags
ship tags for very specific versions of ships
#luvvalastor = my personal favourite Valastor dynamic: heavily fanonised characterisation of both; bold stripe aroace cupiorose Val x aroacespike Alastor
For me ValAngelHusk* is for exploring different abuse, VoxValAngel** is for exploring different responses to abuse, thank you for coming to my TED Talk
*Overlord Husk preferred but not required
**pilot/sinsta-era preferred but not required; series-era would switch Vox & Valentino's roles as abuser-victim and abuser
I am quite curious why there are only so many queer identities that can feature on hellaverse pride merch. If you aren't bi-, lesbian, asexual, pan-, transgender, hetero-, or a gay man, you get a generic rainbow flag to imply you're part of the queer community but not specify how. This isn't even due to A24 or Amazon, this pattern starts in Helluva Boss merch from before the... whatever led to it being partly funded by Amazon. This is to say, for a show that prides itself on its queerness, its queerness is limited.
You could argue that they're only using these identities because they are well known. While I would agree that these are some of the most widely known flags, I would also ask why should general knowledge matter? This could be a teaching moment, a community building moment. Using the unlabeled orientation or unlabeled gender flag, using an aromantic or aroace or agender flag, using an omnisexual flag, using different versions of the rainbow flag. People who don't know would ask what they mean, and they would learn. The shows could create a small legacy in broadening its audience's knowledge on queer identities & history, broadening mainstream knowledge on queer identities & history.
Going back to the "well known" argument, there is one flag that is grouped with these common ones that is yet to appear — non-binary. Arguably also intersex, and also transgender on a man character. If they're set on only using the "commonplace" identities, why aren't these present?
July Addendum: Just in case it has to be said, the staff sona & oc pride art does not count against this. That is not the shows nor their merch. That is solely artwork for the staff to celebrate with and express themselves.
That said, I do like knowing it's possible for hellaverse to put out things with intersex + on progress pride, genderfluid, non-binary, demigirl, aroace, aromantic, demiromantic, demisexual, omnisexual, polysexual, polyamorous, bear, twink, leather, BDSM, & queer flags (and likely others I've missed, there is definitely 1 that I can't identify) and furthermore presenting the split attraction model. It is good to know the staff were free to truly express themselves. This also has the bonus of showing that Spindlehorse are willing to present these identities.
I think since I’ve been seeing more aroace stuff around I share my aroace headcanon for my favorite hazbin hotel ship
Radiodust aro/ace headcanons-
Al/Allie/Alastor:
- Alastor has never had much (good) luck with romance when he was alive because most relationships he was in was his fault when they broke up (sometimes). He never truly liked a person romantically at first, it takes a pretty long time for him to feel romantic attraction but he does get into relationships with people he sees as aesthetically appealing (Apresromantic)
- Alastor never understood the meaning of sex but found it to be interesting to watch, the action seemed to bring people closer (or not) and understood the sentiment to an extent. He wasn’t disgusted by the idea of it but also didn’t want to participate in it (sex-neutral asexual)
Angel Dust/Tony/Athony:
- he has been in relationships (sometimes because he feels forced to) before but he sometimes loses attraction to them, not lose completely but just wavers onto a lower number. It makes him feel broken and that caused some of his relationships to end when he didn’t want to do romantic things (Aroflux)
- Angel Dust is a sex icon, one of the many famous porn stars of hell! Of course he loves sex and anything related to it.. but if or when he he’s in a relationship, he doesn’t want to get into the sexual stuff straight away and he doesn’t know why, he has sex almost every day at his job so, why does doing that stuff with his partner almost immediately make him uncomfortable? (Demisexual)
Altony/Radiodust/Spiderbite:
- The relationship is a bit rocky at the start because Alastor assumes that Angel only wants sex out of him and is ready for Angel to break up with him when he doesn’t want that but to his surprise, nothing of the sort happens. Of course Angel says the occasional sex joke that makes Alastor roll his eyes in annoyance but that’s it, but he’s still on high alert
- Their romance is subtle, sometimes it’s just them spending quality time together and sitting in silence, maybe listening to music together and things like that. They also give each other gifts, sometimes anonymously and sometimes it’s expressed in a very loud way. Other times kisses and hand holding (which is Alastor’s favorite) and cuddling
- if they even attempt to do anything sexual with each other, it won’t be full on intercourse of course and only heated kisses and a bit of groping.
- (also Alastor’s love language is hand holding, biting, and parallel play/body doubling while Angel Dust’s love language is gift giving and pebbling and also parallel play/body doubling)
I have a huge post with my* queer hcs for hellaverse characters but I really should have set myself parameters before doing this cus how have I done 30 characters so far where Travis was added early on but Moxxie is yet to be even thought of before writing THIS sentence.
* influenced by the uthaz, significantly so for characters I have 0 thoughts on.
it still scares me when i do a bit of an ask answer, save to drafts, then go to check it's saved but forget that it saves to when the ask was sent. bad feature imo unnecessary stress
"i want them to get married so i can blow up the church" - @frostcorpsclub
i think these two would be insufferable. all they do is have sex and exacerbate each others worst qualities. theyre everything the other wants and that is EVERYONE elses problem.
