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"Oh no won't somebody think about a 20+ woman getting into a relationship with a 24+ man. The horror! The p*edophila!"
How Sovieshu antis sound while spreading false information
The reddit sub for Tre is really trying hard to spread Rashta was a minor propaganda despite people pointing out Rashta is an adult in official Korean Wikipedia. Also the story would have tagged underage if that was the case. I understand hating Sovieshu but y'all doing too much over a fictional character while using real life problem. Calling any fictional character a pedo you don't like is actually harmful for real life victims as it dilutes the meaning.
Edit: since some of you like to act slick, Rashta's age in Korean wiki is 20-22. SK legal age starts at 20, not 18. So if Rashta was 18, it'd still be tagged as underage.
If you have to put down Toji to prop up Maki or put down Maki to prop up Toji, you're nothing but a loser and reason why jjk fans are called lobotomy kaisen fans.
SMH people are powerscaling trauma response now. I'm so done with this fandom.
Toji didn't kill Zenin Clan cause he didn't have a "Mai" in that clan. Him simply being alive put those fuckers in fear. Why would he kill them when it's explicitly said "the man who left it all behind" including his want for revenge?
Maki wouldn't have gone through it either, if Mai was alive. She went there to fetch weapons, not commit massacre. She only did it after Mai explicitly asked her to. Otherwise, she'd have followed Toji's path.
Both are valid in their reasons. If Zenin Clan tired putting a hand on Mamagumi, Toji would have given them a fate worse than death.
And if he took out Zenin Clan when he left, both Maki and Mai would be erased from existence as their parents would be dead before they could be born.
It's good that Zenins were taken by two things they hated. Heavenly restrictions and women.
Lobotomy kaisen need to stop putting them against each other. They're both equal and always will be. Anything Toji can do, Maki can do after awakening. Anything Maki can do after awakening, Toji can do too. Gege literally put that in writing about how they're equal in strength yet mofos still acting like this. Fuck all Toji and Maki haters. Fuck you all.
False allegations against Sovieshu:
Once again the "Rashta was underage" has made appearance. Seriously same recycled false information. I'm begging y'all stop getting your information from reddit and read the novel or visit the Korean official wiki for Rashts. She's 20-22. An adult human being. Sovieshu calling her cute doesn't mean she's underage. Sovieshu calls birdpoop heinly as "the kid" who's a grown man. Soviesu also didn't call Rashta kid. Y'all can't be this dense. He has many faults but being a groomer isn't one of them.
"Another one is didn't rescue out of goodness but only because she was pretty "
Dude literally helped her because she was in need and admitted that he'd have rescued anyone in that position. Which actually made Rashta sad cause she thought he loved her from the first meeting when in reality Sovieshu was doing what a good emperor should do: help his subjects.
"He lied to her about his plans and used her as incubator"
Once again please read the book or webtoon instead of skimming comments from reddit. He didn't even plan to make her a concubine until she asked him to and then she became pregnant which surprised him too (as he preciously thought both him and Navier could be infertile). He wasn't some scheming dude twirling his mustache about using Rashta. He was clear with her from the beginning that she'd be an empress for 1 year. Rashta was fully aware of it and even thought in future she could change his mind by getting pregnant once again, as Sovieshu wouldn't divorce his pregnant wife. Sovieshu his his plans from Navier, not from Rashta.
"He separated his baby from her like an evil dude"
Are we forgetting that Rashta was suffering from past trauma and for that reason she threw baby Gloryem on the floor!!!??? That's literally child endangerment. Sovieshu removing Gloryem was being anything but good father acting concerned for their kid. Rashta was in broken mental state, unfit to take care of gloryem. Even by modern standard, CPS would have removed that child from her. Rashta was in tragic situation caused by her past trauma. It's a sad situation but what Sovieshu did was totally understandable by removing their baby from her.
Criticize that man for valid reasons. There's plenty! But giving false allegations will only harm Rashta.
And pedophilia is a serious issue like slavery that shouldn't be used in sentences like it's a light subject. It's a disservice to real victims. Let's not be like those birdshit defenders who defends everything he does including him selling children to slavery.
Rashta was an adult woman with faults but that doesn't mean she wasn't a tragic character either. Sovieshu was a horrible man but that doesn't mean everything he does was horrible. They're grey characters with both good and bad in them.
Sovieshu himself was interested and planned to make Rashta his concubine. because he himself admitted that he was captivated by Rashta's angelic beauty from the start and radiated an her innocent aura. He even nicknamed her his "prey".
btw then what is this? this bastard even imagined something like this and rashta is the mother of his child. We must admit it. he's been using her as an incubator from the start. Also, once again, he never gets jealous when Rashta is approached by other men. Unlike Navier, because he only uses rashta as a vessel.
Look, even from the start, he didn't care about Rashta's social status. He also made Rashta queen for the sake of his child, not because of Rashta.
When Glorym was pregnant, Rashta didn't get to hold her and was immediately taken by Sovieshu without even breastfeeding. He even held a party for Glorym but didn't let Rashta touch the baby, he doesnt care that Rashta was mocked and ridiculed by the nobles at that time. Even, she gave birth to the baby. But she were present to witness it without being allowed to touch the baby herself.. If that were Navier's position, Sovieshu wouldn't have acted so cruelly. He would have understood. Let's prove it, for example, when Koshar Trovi intended to abort Rashta. He was only sentenced to exile. Which doesn't make sense historically. Because any noble who dared to commit a crime against the emperor, his family would be enslaved. Just like what Heinrey did to the family of Duke Zemensia. But why didn't Sovieshu do it? Because he loved Navier. He was afraid that Navier would be more shamed by society, even if Navier was seen defending his brother. So look,Navier's actions were more detrimental to his child than Rashta. But he tried to understand. If that's what Rashta did, he would have gone too far. But if it was Navier, he wouldn't have done anything as serious as what he did to Rashta, You may like Sovieshu, but never justify his mistakes. Hes good king good father. But he was the only one who abused Rashta. Abuse isn't just physical violence. Neglect is also considered abuse.
Sovieshu was captivated by her angelic (innocent face) like everyone else. Nowhere he said he wanted to make her a concubine from the beginning. Did you miss the panels where Rashta acting coy and asking Sovieshu to make her his concubine?
And you're basically proving my point. He wasn't in love with her and never claimed to do so. He wasn't jealous because he didn't love her. He brought her because he'd have done it for anyone else and he admitted it in front of Rashta which actually made her sad because she believed he loved him. When she became pregnant, that's when he decided to make her empress cause he needed an heir. He wasn't planning to use her as an incubator. He could have done it with any other noble women if using an incubator was his goal. Rashta becoming pregnant was a happy accident that actually benefited his duty: produce an heir.
Sovieshu exiling Kosair didn't make sense historically of course it didn't, cause the author needed everyone who supported Navier alive and thriving, the plot armour. And yes he did love Navier. So I'm not understanding why you're arguing? You didn't refute my claims rather solidified it.
Sovieshu loved Navier. He rescued Rashta because it was his duty. But Rashta was different and a breath of fresh air from backstabbing noble society. He didn't even know he was fertile himself so how he'd plan to use Rashta as in incubator when he couldn't be sure to impregnate her? Where's the logistics?
Sovieshu later made Rashta concubine and she became pregnant later. Much to his surprise. And of course he'll try to legalize that baby.
I feel like you're intentionally being dense on purpose. You bought your reddit propaganda and refusing to admit you guzzled down false information from there. You also said Rashta was underage, which was refuted by multiple people here. Yet you're still here acting dense. It's like I'm talking to a wall. And frankly it's exhausting.
"Toji kept the Zenin clan alive on a whim." Imagine a centuries-old clan, steeped in legends, prestige, and harsh laws, a pillar of the great clans in Japan, renowned for its power and influence. Yet, you discover that its very existence wasn't based on solidity, but merely a vestige of Toji's whim. Despite his intense hatred for them and their rejection of him, he possessed a power that allowed him, at any moment, with a fleeting decision or even a passing mood, to obliterate the clan entirely and erase its history. Their continued existence became a mere coincidence born of his indifference, and this alone reveals the immense prestige and influence this character wielded.
The one that truly understood Toji was Gojo, not Naoya.
I didn't even realize that Toji is in front, because Gojo is looking at him while Toji is looking at nothing.
This is Naoya acknowledging Gojo understanding Toji. Not him respecting or glazing Gojo alongside Toji. He's solely glazing Toji here.
Nobody was ignorant of Gojo's power. Everyone knew about it since his birth. But people was ignorant of Toji's strength hence making them insignificant unlike Gojo who realized it after he met him, just like Naoya.
I have a theory that Naoya met Gojo when he went there to make deals for Megumi and Gojo talked about Toji there and definitely said something about him that pissed off the Zenin members except Naoya cause in his mind Toji is strong and Gojo acknowledging it made him realize he was not alone in that thought and put him alongside Gojo in club of people who truly understood Toji.
But he was so close to the point yet missed it. He only saw Toji's strength but not the loneliness that was caused because of it. The damage it brought upon him. Gojo did and Gojo understood. That's why he wanted to change the younger generation. That's why many of his students are misfits and outcasts (Maki, Yuta etc). He wanted to give them a chance that Toji was denied as a child. Gojo is usually very mocking and cocky to those whom he beats up (even badmouthed Sukuna over and over again while he was dragging his ass across the buildings) but when Toji died, his face was serious, somber. No mocking, cruel words because he finally understood why Toji is the way he is. Probably why he agreed to take in Megumi upon Toji's subtle suggestions. When he awkward he too realized the loneliness and isolation that he failed to notice before as he had equals (Geto), but after awakening he was alone just like Toji. And didn't want anyone to bear that burden.
This is where Naoya failed.
Naoya thought Toji was a rare gem that he and someone like Gojo understood. It was his pride and achievement. In that regard he felt he was familiar with them, in league with them: league of real strength.
Naoya saw the light of Toji's strength but failed to see the darkness beneath (unlike Gojo). If he did, he'd not have treated Maki so cruelly. He'd have tried to change the world like Gojo did upon seeing Toji. But he derailed himself because of his superficial understanding. He became just like those "insignificant people" who he looked down upon.
Gojo Satoru understood Fushiguro Toji/Zenin Toji. He is the one who truly gets him. Not Naoya. Ironically Gojo is once again truly alone in that club of understanding Toji, just like he was alone in everything else.
How I wish Mamagumi was alive and Toji met him in much stable mind. I feel like Gojo wouldn't have been so burdened and lonely, despite being two end of the opposite poles they shared something common that nobody at that time did.
The sin of insignificant isn't just ignorance of strength but also failure to understand what that strength cost the wielder.
I love how remarried empress commenters are all for "Your tragic backstory isn't an excuse for your bad behavior" Until its Ergi getting his widdle origin story
Now its "Ergi had every right to crash out! Trashta reminds him of Alessia!"
Yeah that's a valid excuse for preying on other vulnerable women alright.
Nothing like abandoning your so called morals for sad boy am I right?
They excuse men for the same reason they hate women.
False allegations against Sovieshu:
Once again the "Rashta was underage" has made appearance. Seriously same recycled false information. I'm begging y'all stop getting your information from reddit and read the novel or visit the Korean official wiki for Rashta. She's 20-22. An adult human being. Sovieshu calling her cute doesn't mean she's underage. Sovieshu calls birdpoop heinly as "the kid" who's a grown man. Soviesu also didn't call Rashta kid. Y'all can't be this dense. He has many faults but being a groomer isn't one of them.
Another one is "He didn't rescue Rashta out of goodness but only because she was pretty "
Dude literally helped her because she was in need and admitted that he'd have rescued anyone in that position. Which actually made Rashta sad cause she thought he loved her from the first meeting when in reality Sovieshu was doing what a good emperor should do: help his subjects.
"He lied to her about his plans and used her as incubator"
Once again please read the book or webtoon instead of skimming comments from reddit. He didn't even plan to make her a concubine until she asked him to and then she became pregnant which surprised him too (as he previously thought both him and Navier could be infertile). He wasn't some scheming dude twirling his mustache about using Rashta. He was clear with her from the beginning that she'd be an empress for 1 year. Rashta was fully aware of it and even thought, in future, she could change his mind by getting pregnant once again, as Sovieshu wouldn't divorce his pregnant wife. Sovieshu hid his plans from Navier, not from Rashta.
"He separated his baby from her like an evil dude"
Are we forgetting that Rashta was suffering from past trauma and for that reason she threw baby Gloryem on the floor!!!??? That's literally child endangerment. Sovieshu removing Gloryem was being anything but good father acting concerned for their kid. Rashta was in broken mental state, unfit to take care of Gloryem. Even by modern standard, CPS would have removed that child from her. Rashta was in tragic situation caused by her past trauma. It's a sad situation but what Sovieshu did was totally understandable by removing their baby from her.
Criticize that man for valid reasons. There's plenty! But giving false allegations will only harm Rashta.
And pedophilia is a serious issue like slavery that shouldn't be used in sentences like it's a light subject. It's a disservice to real victims. Let's not be like those birdshit defenders who defends everything he does including him selling children to slavery.
Rashta was an adult woman with faults but that doesn't mean she wasn't a tragic character either. Sovieshu was a horrible man but that doesn't mean everything he did was horrible. They're grey characters with both good and bad in them.
I personally found Rashta-Sovieshu relationship creepy mainly because the huge power imbalance between them (adult relationships can also have power imbalances whether itās in status, age gap, etc). I mean Navier-Heinrey also are an age gap relationship (Heinrey & Rashta being around the same ages) but thereās no power imbalance in their relationship. Actually all of the royalty and nobles have power imbalance with Rashta, which is why Iām not a fan of Rashta-Navier ship either ; also I dislike how in the side story Rashta could only live happily if she was Navierās maid. Something I didnāt like was the author's difference in treatment towards Sovieshu (redemption arc) and Rashta (death). Yeah, people should remember Sovieshu was also Glorymās parent (he did care about her) and that Rashta fell in love with Sovieshu at first sight.
Of course Rashta Sovieshu had power imbalance. I'm not a shipper of them (I'm a navieshu shipper). But people often reduce Rashta to infacy as if she had no say in this relationship. She fell in love with him and actively asked him to make her his concubine. She felt pretty secured around Sovieshu assuming he'd have her back, no matter what (until the port situation which bordered to national problem) and Sovieshu finally gave up on her. Even before death, she acknowledged Sovieshu is the only one that made her feel safe and wanted him to love her.
My solace about the side story is that she'll be alive and happy with her daughter and away from Ergi and Lotteshu. She'll be living in a bigger palace, rich as hell, enjoying her life. Sovieshu should have definitely chose this action from the beginning.
Yeah I don't like Navier Rashta or Navier birdshit ship either.
For me Rashta's true happy ending would be her living in a meadow as she dreamt of, with her children and probably a new ML who's nuanced just like her and loves her despite her faults. Not as Sovieshu's concubine nor as Navier's maid.
She deserves her own story.
Not people claiming Rashta is 16-17 now and Heinly being 24-25. Y'all don't read š
Rashta and Birdpoop are of same age, probably her being slightly older. Heiny was 19 when he met Sovieshu and Navier. Was planning against Sovieshu for five years (since age of 14). He's five years younger than Navier.
False allegations against Sovieshu:
Once again the "Rashta was underage" has made appearance. Seriously same recycled false information. I'm begging y'all stop getting your information from reddit and read the novel or visit the Korean official wiki for Rashta. She's 20-22. An adult human being. Sovieshu calling her cute doesn't mean she's underage. Sovieshu calls birdpoop heinly as "the kid" who's a grown man. Soviesu also didn't call Rashta kid. Y'all can't be this dense. He has many faults but being a groomer isn't one of them.
Another one is "He didn't rescue Rashta out of goodness but only because she was pretty "
Dude literally helped her because she was in need and admitted that he'd have rescued anyone in that position. Which actually made Rashta sad cause she thought he loved her from the first meeting when in reality Sovieshu was doing what a good emperor should do: help his subjects.
"He lied to her about his plans and used her as incubator"
Once again please read the book or webtoon instead of skimming comments from reddit. He didn't even plan to make her a concubine until she asked him to and then she became pregnant which surprised him too (as he previously thought both him and Navier could be infertile). He wasn't some scheming dude twirling his mustache about using Rashta. He was clear with her from the beginning that she'd be an empress for 1 year. Rashta was fully aware of it and even thought, in future, she could change his mind by getting pregnant once again, as Sovieshu wouldn't divorce his pregnant wife. Sovieshu hid his plans from Navier, not from Rashta.
"He separated his baby from her like an evil dude"
Are we forgetting that Rashta was suffering from past trauma and for that reason she threw baby Gloryem on the floor!!!??? That's literally child endangerment. Sovieshu removing Gloryem was being anything but good father acting concerned for their kid. Rashta was in broken mental state, unfit to take care of Gloryem. Even by modern standard, CPS would have removed that child from her. Rashta was in tragic situation caused by her past trauma. It's a sad situation but what Sovieshu did was totally understandable by removing their baby from her.
Criticize that man for valid reasons. There's plenty! But giving false allegations will only harm Rashta.
And pedophilia is a serious issue like slavery that shouldn't be used in sentences like it's a light subject. It's a disservice to real victims. Let's not be like those birdshit defenders who defends everything he does including him selling children to slavery.
Rashta was an adult woman with faults but that doesn't mean she wasn't a tragic character either. Sovieshu was a horrible man but that doesn't mean everything he did was horrible. They're grey characters with both good and bad in them.
women's beauty standards:
- hourglass body shape
- tiny waist
- long legs
- large eyes
- no body hair
conclusion:
conventionally attractive woman
And someone actually did it! Lmao
oooo he needs to be kissed by me
oooo he needs to be saved by me
Someone at Mappa has fetish for Toji's feet lmao. They literally draw his bare feet multiple times I'm crying
Apparently, there's a black sheep in the Zen'in clan. I'm told even though he's a man, he doesn't have an ounce of cursed energy. How awful that must feel. How pitiful that person must look.
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Toji "the black sheep of zenin clan" Fushiguro
If Toji destroyed Zenin Clan, there would be no Maki and Mai as their parents would be dead before they were born. I'm glad Toji left it all behind instead of killing them. This Maki came to life and destroyed the Zenin Clan. I'm happy it got destroyed by a woman and a heavenly restricted one at that. Toji would approve.
