**not sure if iâm blocked, but my post seems to have disappeared so i figured i would post again about this post from @offtorivendell about gwynâs age being problematic when shipping gwynriel:
iâm trying very hard to understand the intent behind this. because reading this whole thing, saying that gwyn is basically a young teen in fae years, sounds like an insinuation that anyone who ships her with az is ok with child abuse/pedophilia. i get you said this take is not to be hurtful and you would be respectful, but this is how it sounds.
letâs say for arguments sake this was a genuine concern when reading. that you are just a concerned gwyn fan who doesnât want her to be in a compromising relationship. iâll humor this post as best as i can.
the fact that she talked about how she was not able to participate in the great rite, not because of her age, but because of her location - being remote - leads me to believe sheâs old enough to be in a sexual relationship with a fae male. considering the great rite doesnât pair people up based on their age bracket and itâs just a fun orgy for the fae one can assume she could have paired up with a 20 year old fae, an 80 year old, a 578 year old⊠so claiming sheâs too young for this doesnât make sense. next.
alis and her nephews are urisks. they are not high fae or river nymphs. they age at a significantly slower rate. that alis quote was pointing out how difficult it is for her species and the high fae to reproduce. it was pointing out why both covet their young. the reason tarquin is considered a young high lord is heâs the youngest one and also he hasnât had a chance to rule since he was crowned UtM. thatâs why they talk about him being idealistic, heâs not used to court politics - which he admits when with feyre. he doesnât have the cynicism the others have due to his age and time ruling. next.
rhys himself was 28 years of age when the war started 500 years ago. that means cassian, azriel, and mor were all around the same age. they were old enough to fight and have sex. cassian and mor had sex with each other, but no one claims they were too young to be having sex. cassian was in a relationship with a valkyrie, a seasoned warrior, during the war. i havenât seen anyone write a post about how cassian was a victim of statutory rape. 28 is not a child in their world. next.
if we are putting this creepy feel onto gwynriel, that gwyn is too young for azriel, then we most definitely need to put that title onto feysand, nessian, elriel, elucien, feylinâŠ.literally every ship in this universe aside from elain x graysen and feyre x isaac hale (her mortal barn boy in case anyone forgot). having been mortal at one time does not exclude them from the âheâs too old for herâ title. theyâre all younger than gwyn. wow, what pervs. next.
azriel saved gwyn so thereâs a power dynamic⊠ok so guess that means elriel is out. feysand too since feyre saved all of prythian. guess sheâll have to go to the continent for some lovinâ. cassian, sorry nesta saved you so now she holds too much power over you. do you see how bad that argument is? saving someone does not disrupt the power dynamic. especially when these characters are equals. gwyn did not train for months and complete the blood rite not to be considered an equal to azriel. next.
gwyn sounds younger than everyone⊠ok, but sheâs not. she grew up sheltered. her only sexual experience was violent. thatâs why she doesnât read smut as easily as emerie or nesta. reading adventure books does not make her a child. it speaks to her desire to be her own hero, to be a warrior, which she now is. and sorry, but truth teller is a pretentious af name. silver majesty >>> truth teller any day lol. as for the friendship bracelets, sure that was very âtweens at summer campâ moment, but it was to signify that gwyn has found a sisterhood with nesta and emerie. if weâre gonna use this as evidence that gwyn is too young then we can also use nesta making an imaginary friend real (the house) and nesta asking said imaginary friend to make a miniature pegasus. the entire slumber party scene had the tween girl feel to it, but youâre not claiming nesta or emerie as childishâŠ
i donât care what people ship. you want to ship elain and koschei go for it. you want a thrupple with mor, nesta, and the bone carver fucking have fun! i just donât think itâs appropriate to make a post to talk about a ship that implies anyone shipping it would be supporting pedophilia. because this is essentially what you are saying. that gwyn is technically a teen in fae years so shipping her with az is problematic. i will give you the benefit of the doubt and say you did not mean to imply this, but itâs a bad take. let people ship what they want in peace.
This is why an interpretation of one portion of the text needs to be applied across the board. The claims people make arenât just true when they want them to be true.Â
oh PS no attacking people pls and thank you
Also, I think the tween slumber party vibes were there because none of them got to really have an entirely safe and secure childhood, or in Gwyns case, she now feels very unsafe and secure. And so there is comfort in doing silly things and having fun and creating a space in which they can let go of their individual trauma and do whatever they want. Like, for Nesta in particular, she did not get to have girlhood friendsâŠmakes sense that at 25 sheâs like âoh sleepovers! Oh cool!!!â
Iâm 24 and to this day we have sleepovers and a bunch of matching stuff with my best friends, doesnât mean we are not adults, we are just FRIENDS which must be a foreign concept to the person who thinks that this makes Gwyn childish
