Chaotic Good

| Romanian-Irish | | She/Her | Just an opinionated 17 year old girl. Fight me. [Anti-Map]

[k-eke]

My master.

[radicaldumbass]

I will never understand the urges pornsick males (and sometimes even females) demonstrate. When I love someone and am in a situation where I will be having sex with them, the last thing on my mind is hurting them, or having them hurt me. The idea makes me sick. For me, sex is about tenderness, trust, and communication, and I’ve seen too many women forsake those needs and desires for some man who wants to hit them or fuck them like they’re meaningless. 

For women in relationships with men who want to hurt them, please recognise your worth. Acknowledge your needs and find someone who will fulfill them. Do not settle for what your rape apologist porn watching boyfriend wants you to do. Do not allow his warped brain to dictate what acts you take part in.

[tooiconic]

People can love tender, emotional, loving sex but sometimes love some spanking and choking. BDSM type behavior requires intense communication and trust… which you wouldnt know because as you stated, you don’t understand this, and that’s fine, but don’t talk about things you don’t really know about. Stop making the men (or doms in general) into rapist demons and the women (or subs in general) into poor innocent flowers :(( who all want the same sex that you do. That’s just not the case. Some people both mutually enjoy this or enjoy a mix of the tender and the rough depending on the mood.

Be critical of kinks. It’s a good thing. It’s a good thing to tell women to not give up their sexual needs for someone else or to not be pressured into these acts.

The issue is the “rape apologist” and “porn sick” statements. It’s a big incorrect generalization.

[no-steppy-snek]

Hey OP, a big part of sex for me is knowing that my partner trusts me and is enjoying themselves (in fact I’m a real service top lol), and I don’t watch porn at all. But I still have some bdsm related kinks, like bondage, edging, overstimulation, and other forms of sex torture. But once again, I don’t enjoy it if my partner doesn’t enjoy it.

My point is that A) bdsm kinks don’t form from watching porn and B) bdsm can coexist with loving sex.

[ouma-against-dickheads]

Also why are they assuming all men are “pornsick” and into bdsm

[kaedyke]

Don’t fuckin kinkshame it’s pretty simple OP

[radicaldumbass]

God I was waiting for the kinkshaming accusation. Consider this you whiny child: don’t advocate for people to hit women “as long as it’s safe sane consensual uwu”. Hitting your partner will never be safe or sane, which negates the consent. Acting like me saying “hey uh maybe bdsm isn’t the best idea bc it lets people get away with hitting their partners!!” Is somehow this awful crime of kinkshaming is PATHETIC.

[kaedyke]

Here’s the thing hun: consent is very important. There are people who enjoy being hit and mistreated, and there are people who happily do it as a living. You’re gonna let your feminist beliefs get in the way of people who are enjoying themselves? Honey, welcome to the real world. People are hit all the time, if you’re going to whine about it, how about you consider the fact that at least is consensual? Right now you could be focusing on ACTUAL unwanted abuse but no, you’re going to whine because there’s people in the world that have their kinks that you don’t agree with. Youre talking as if these people are slitting each others throats in the middle of intercourse. Yes, it’s safe. A few bruises and red marks aren’t going to kill you or emotionally scar you, dear. Let people enjoy what they enjoy, and focus on ACTUAL things going on in the world right now because I can’t think of one case were the bottom consented to it and it was somehow abuse. And by the way, BDSM requires more trust than vanilla sex. By the way.

[radicaldumbass]

I am a survivor of severe physical and sexual abuse. I also want to be hit, thrown around, threatened, etc because it’s a maladaptive coping skill and a form of self harm. I am absolutely going to get in the way of women exposing themselves to that sort of pain because 9/10 times it is not as simple as “Oh but she likes it!” Kink does not exist in a vacuum, it is always influenced by a dozen other factors, and ignoring that because she said yes is disgusting. Consent is important, but it isn’t the only requirement for sex like kink-oriented people act like it is. Someone can verbally consent even if they really are not into it, because of coercion or their similar problems. So so so many different factors are at play and you’re just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it’s fine uwu. It’s not fucking fine. Also “you could be focusing on ACTUAL abuse” lmao you think I don’t? I volunteer at a battered women’s shelter. Abuse is an issue that is near and dear to my heart. I can care about multiple different instances of abuse though, ya fuckin goofy. “I can’t think of one case where the bottom consented to it and it was abuse” shdjfgm you haven’t been paying attention then. I saw a collection of screenshots from fetlife recently where women were discussing their male partners doing things they didn’t enjoy, like coming home and fucking their ass without lube without any communication, and the moderators of the forum brushed them aside with “this is a consensual non-consent forum, that’s the dynamic sometimes.” These women are being brainwashed to think that spousal rape is a normal fucking part of a kink relationship. How do you not see how repulsive that is? I was in the BDSM “community” for over a year as a method of deferred self harm and “doms” will absolutely disregard their submissive’s comfort and wishes. Males do not have enough empathy to ever be put in a situation where they have to be aware of their partner’s comfort level.

[kaedyke]

Lmao are you bragging? Sit the fuck down. How about you go to that damn shelter then and get your ass off Tumblr? Because honey no one asked for this dumbassery. If you think I’m brushing off the Times people are raped or are looking to harm themselves or anything like that you’re crazy. I’m talking only about true consensual BDSM where both partners are healthy and perfectly fine with what’s happening. Everything you listed are completely different cases. And you can’t blame the dom if the bottom consents and they don’t mean it. Especially if The dominate did nothing to make them say yes. The bottom is the one who said yes, and it’s now on their hands. Its like saying you want a piece of cake and then being angry at the person who gave you the cake. It isn’t fair to them, And it also doesn’t make sense. And everything you said about people going out their way to do it for self harm reasons is absolutely insane and far-fetched. Because first of all, you just have to take away every ones fun because one person ruined it, huh? 2, these are just fucking people who want to have fucking Fun. Lay the fuck down. I am also an abuse survivor. And this shit isn’t that hard to understand. Yeah, girls wanna hurt themselves. And it is fucking Fun, and it isn’t just so they can feed their self harm addiction. You’re actually insane. And also, you don’t get to toss men into one big bad category of horrible people because you still don’t agree with someone’s kink.

[radicaldumbass]

Theyfabs stop performing toxic masculinity so people think they’re Real Men challenge.

[spooky-luka-deactivated20200830]

I’m Big concerned with the “minor” in their bio

Minors get out of kink discourse challenge

[radicaldumbass]

fucking hell, just noticed that… @kiibabee go do homework.

[kaedyke]

Excuse me? Just because I’m a fucking minor doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to be fucking educated on these fucking things. You see me trying to get OUT of the thread and then YOU TAG ME. Dumbass. Go fuck yourself. How about you learn how to be a decent human being

[sinsemillanoma-deactivated20181]

As an adult myself, I feel its its a learning curve for them to be in discourse like this. Anyone is allowed to talk about a subject if they have a basic understanding of it. as long as we’re not like, talking them into trying these things or being rapey about it, i see no problem with them learning. Furthermore, they’ve ended this conversation. So lets be decent people and not add onto it anymore than this. 

[stop-stalin-and-suck-my-dick]

This is true as fuck Jimmy, I have learned SO MUCH just from spitting out an opinion and getting responses lol

[michaelamimi]

I’m just going to say this.

I’m a woman. I love fluffy lovey vanilla love making. But sometimes I just want to be spanked. Sometimes I want my hair pulled and being told what a good girl I am.

And there is nothing wrong with it. Cause that’s the kind of sexual freedom I wanted as a feminist(I’m not longer one).

Also I can’t help but laugh at op acting like men are the only ones who watch porn. There clearly aren’t millions and millions of erotic literature aimed at women.

[stop-stalin-and-suck-my-dick]

Being told I’m a good girl is the best stuff ngl and that doesnt tend to go along with lovey vanilla sex (which I also love) and its almost like people are allowed to like their sex how they want, same as food, books, n whatever else?

[radicaldumbass]

So you’re admitting you’ll expose yourself to abuse willingly in order to get meagre scraps of validation like being called a good girl. Sad, but not surprising. It’s called trauma bonding. And if someone enjoyed eating human flesh and reading graphic accounts of rape then I would also criticise them for that!

[stop-stalin-and-suck-my-dick]

Um. No.

1. I’m not being abused. My partner is not abusing me when we have sex. He doesn’t hit me, or degrade me, or make me feel unsafe, or violate my consent. We just like rough sex. Please chill the fuck out.

2. Yes, I enjoy praise and validation. My partner also enjoys praise, bc it feels nice, and I do not abuse him. I do not hit or degrade him, or violate his consent. We just like rough sex. Please chill the fuck out.

I’ve said this before and apparently I’m gonna say it again and again. Your personal disgust with something doesn’t obligate other people to change their practices and doesn’t render them immoral for having preferences that disgust you. You can just…not like things, and shut the fuck up. Or at least engage with them in a respectful manner instead of making accusations and assumptions about relationships you know nothing about.

[gaysonhq]

The truth in what you’re saying makes me happy

the fact OP wants to utter abuse when it comes to a kink that consensually turns on either the woman the man or both parties is laughable

Couples discuss this so boundaries are formed, sorry not everyone goes through abuse and is happy, and comforted, and enjoy each other and their kinks

Not everyone likes slow missionary bud, some of us wanna get sucked dry and pounded into oblivion while being told what good boys/girls we are

[stop-stalin-and-suck-my-dick]

Yes!!! And for the love of god OP please stop calling everything you think is icky abuse/trauma. That’s a big ol fucking insult to actual victims of these things (like me! But nobody cares about that, they’re all hellbent on demonizing my loving and respectful man so whatevs lmao)

Anyway those words have meanings and you should learn to use them properly OP. Learn how to mind your business while you’re at it. Being critical of kink is healthy. Being wildly accusatory toward anyone who likes something different is just immature and accomplishes nothing except to convince everyone you’re fucking nuts and have no clue what you’re talking about.

[radicaldumbass]

I’m an actual victim of abuse and trauma dumbshit. A man beating a woman bruised and bloody, spitting on her and calling her a whore/a bitch/worthless, talking about raping her even in the context of a roleplay, partaking in unsafe behaviours like knifeplay/anal without lube/unprotected sex without prior discussion—that’s all abuse. It doesn’t matter if she said yes, it’s still abusive behaviours. If a man can maintain an erection while beating his partner/pretending to rape her/etc, there is something EXTREMELY WRONG.

[stop-stalin-and-suck-my-dick]

Having been abused doesnt mean you can’t insult victims by misusing terms they need, so I don’t know what you’re trying to prove, but it’s not working. The things you’ve said about consensual sex between adults being abusive and traumatic is very insulting toward actual abuse survivors. (Hi, I am one too! :) )

So you can blather on about all the most extreme possible acts that none of us ever mentioned all you want, but your points against me are still nonexistent and/or very insulting.

Anyway, some of that stuff you’re raving about does sound reall awful and it’s a lucky thing that most of those items are either things nobody does even within most BDSM circles, or gross misrepresentations of acts that aren’t harmful when done safely and respectfully, with consent. So really, you don’t have much of a point.

But that doesn’t really matter because ultimately, it’s not you who gets to decide what boundaries it’s okay for someone to have. You can be critical, you can ask questions, you can dislike whatever you please, but you don’t get to decide what someone else’s boundaries are, or what they feel safe doing, or what makes them feel respected and loved. And ultimately, someone hasn’t been abused or traumatized unless they’ve been violated and made to feel unsafe or out of control, even if they participate in acts that have harmed someone else. Think about that.

[stop-stalin-and-suck-my-dick]

I started tagging and ended up writing an entire other response lmao

[radicaldumbass]

You’re fucking delusional.

[cui-prodest-deactivated20201023]

i really really really want to ask everyone on this topic: why do you never ever question why some people like to be hit, spanked, abused, humiliated, etc? 

why is the most popular answer ‘some people are just into it’ when literally nothing in this physical realm happens out of nowhere? 

why do you think some people like being abused?

why do you think it is good for them?

why do you think letting your partner abuse you is a form of healthy bonding?

why are you getting defensive when asked ‘why’? 

why are you ignoring factual data on brain, traumas, bdsm, unhealthy coping?

why?

[iamsnowxc]

It’s not abuse, for starters. That’s actually pretty demeaning to say when there’s people who are actually being genuinely abused, not just consensually hit in bed.

The answer is ‘they just do’ because that genuinely is the reason why. People don’t choose what turns them on. Some might be survivors but not everyone is. Some people might just like the adrenaline that comes with it. People don’t get defensive when they ask why, people get defensive when you accuse them of being ‘pornsick’ and abusive.

[radicaldumbass]

I will never understand the urges pornsick males (and sometimes even females) demonstrate. When I love someone and am in a situation where I will be having sex with them, the last thing on my mind is hurting them, or having them hurt me. The idea makes me sick. For me, sex is about tenderness, trust, and communication, and I’ve seen too many women forsake those needs and desires for some man who wants to hit them or fuck them like they’re meaningless. 

For women in relationships with men who want to hurt them, please recognise your worth. Acknowledge your needs and find someone who will fulfill them. Do not settle for what your rape apologist porn watching boyfriend wants you to do. Do not allow his warped brain to dictate what acts you take part in.

[tooiconic]

People can love tender, emotional, loving sex but sometimes love some spanking and choking. BDSM type behavior requires intense communication and trust… which you wouldnt know because as you stated, you don’t understand this, and that’s fine, but don’t talk about things you don’t really know about. Stop making the men (or doms in general) into rapist demons and the women (or subs in general) into poor innocent flowers :(( who all want the same sex that you do. That’s just not the case. Some people both mutually enjoy this or enjoy a mix of the tender and the rough depending on the mood.

Be critical of kinks. It’s a good thing. It’s a good thing to tell women to not give up their sexual needs for someone else or to not be pressured into these acts.

The issue is the “rape apologist” and “porn sick” statements. It’s a big incorrect generalization.

[no-steppy-snek]

Hey OP, a big part of sex for me is knowing that my partner trusts me and is enjoying themselves (in fact I’m a real service top lol), and I don’t watch porn at all. But I still have some bdsm related kinks, like bondage, edging, overstimulation, and other forms of sex torture. But once again, I don’t enjoy it if my partner doesn’t enjoy it.

My point is that A) bdsm kinks don’t form from watching porn and B) bdsm can coexist with loving sex.

[ouma-against-dickheads]

Also why are they assuming all men are “pornsick” and into bdsm

[kaedyke]

Don’t fuckin kinkshame it’s pretty simple OP

[radicaldumbass]

God I was waiting for the kinkshaming accusation. Consider this you whiny child: don’t advocate for people to hit women “as long as it’s safe sane consensual uwu”. Hitting your partner will never be safe or sane, which negates the consent. Acting like me saying “hey uh maybe bdsm isn’t the best idea bc it lets people get away with hitting their partners!!” Is somehow this awful crime of kinkshaming is PATHETIC.

[kaedyke]

Here’s the thing hun: consent is very important. There are people who enjoy being hit and mistreated, and there are people who happily do it as a living. You’re gonna let your feminist beliefs get in the way of people who are enjoying themselves? Honey, welcome to the real world. People are hit all the time, if you’re going to whine about it, how about you consider the fact that at least is consensual? Right now you could be focusing on ACTUAL unwanted abuse but no, you’re going to whine because there’s people in the world that have their kinks that you don’t agree with. Youre talking as if these people are slitting each others throats in the middle of intercourse. Yes, it’s safe. A few bruises and red marks aren’t going to kill you or emotionally scar you, dear. Let people enjoy what they enjoy, and focus on ACTUAL things going on in the world right now because I can’t think of one case were the bottom consented to it and it was somehow abuse. And by the way, BDSM requires more trust than vanilla sex. By the way.

[radicaldumbass]

I am a survivor of severe physical and sexual abuse. I also want to be hit, thrown around, threatened, etc because it’s a maladaptive coping skill and a form of self harm. I am absolutely going to get in the way of women exposing themselves to that sort of pain because 9/10 times it is not as simple as “Oh but she likes it!” Kink does not exist in a vacuum, it is always influenced by a dozen other factors, and ignoring that because she said yes is disgusting. Consent is important, but it isn’t the only requirement for sex like kink-oriented people act like it is. Someone can verbally consent even if they really are not into it, because of coercion or their similar problems. So so so many different factors are at play and you’re just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it’s fine uwu. It’s not fucking fine. Also “you could be focusing on ACTUAL abuse” lmao you think I don’t? I volunteer at a battered women’s shelter. Abuse is an issue that is near and dear to my heart. I can care about multiple different instances of abuse though, ya fuckin goofy. “I can’t think of one case where the bottom consented to it and it was abuse” shdjfgm you haven’t been paying attention then. I saw a collection of screenshots from fetlife recently where women were discussing their male partners doing things they didn’t enjoy, like coming home and fucking their ass without lube without any communication, and the moderators of the forum brushed them aside with “this is a consensual non-consent forum, that’s the dynamic sometimes.” These women are being brainwashed to think that spousal rape is a normal fucking part of a kink relationship. How do you not see how repulsive that is? I was in the BDSM “community” for over a year as a method of deferred self harm and “doms” will absolutely disregard their submissive’s comfort and wishes. Males do not have enough empathy to ever be put in a situation where they have to be aware of their partner’s comfort level.

[kaedyke]

Lmao are you bragging? Sit the fuck down. How about you go to that damn shelter then and get your ass off Tumblr? Because honey no one asked for this dumbassery. If you think I’m brushing off the Times people are raped or are looking to harm themselves or anything like that you’re crazy. I’m talking only about true consensual BDSM where both partners are healthy and perfectly fine with what’s happening. Everything you listed are completely different cases. And you can’t blame the dom if the bottom consents and they don’t mean it. Especially if The dominate did nothing to make them say yes. The bottom is the one who said yes, and it’s now on their hands. Its like saying you want a piece of cake and then being angry at the person who gave you the cake. It isn’t fair to them, And it also doesn’t make sense. And everything you said about people going out their way to do it for self harm reasons is absolutely insane and far-fetched. Because first of all, you just have to take away every ones fun because one person ruined it, huh? 2, these are just fucking people who want to have fucking Fun. Lay the fuck down. I am also an abuse survivor. And this shit isn’t that hard to understand. Yeah, girls wanna hurt themselves. And it is fucking Fun, and it isn’t just so they can feed their self harm addiction. You’re actually insane. And also, you don’t get to toss men into one big bad category of horrible people because you still don’t agree with someone’s kink.

[radicaldumbass]

Theyfabs stop performing toxic masculinity so people think they’re Real Men challenge.

[spooky-luka-deactivated20200830]

I’m Big concerned with the “minor” in their bio

Minors get out of kink discourse challenge

[radicaldumbass]

fucking hell, just noticed that… @kiibabee go do homework.

[kaedyke]

Excuse me? Just because I’m a fucking minor doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to be fucking educated on these fucking things. You see me trying to get OUT of the thread and then YOU TAG ME. Dumbass. Go fuck yourself. How about you learn how to be a decent human being

[sinsemillanoma-deactivated20181]

As an adult myself, I feel its its a learning curve for them to be in discourse like this. Anyone is allowed to talk about a subject if they have a basic understanding of it. as long as we’re not like, talking them into trying these things or being rapey about it, i see no problem with them learning. Furthermore, they’ve ended this conversation. So lets be decent people and not add onto it anymore than this. 

[stop-stalin-and-suck-my-dick]

This is true as fuck Jimmy, I have learned SO MUCH just from spitting out an opinion and getting responses lol

[michaelamimi]

I’m just going to say this.

I’m a woman. I love fluffy lovey vanilla love making. But sometimes I just want to be spanked. Sometimes I want my hair pulled and being told what a good girl I am.

And there is nothing wrong with it. Cause that’s the kind of sexual freedom I wanted as a feminist(I’m not longer one).

Also I can’t help but laugh at op acting like men are the only ones who watch porn. There clearly aren’t millions and millions of erotic literature aimed at women.

[stop-stalin-and-suck-my-dick]

Being told I’m a good girl is the best stuff ngl and that doesnt tend to go along with lovey vanilla sex (which I also love) and its almost like people are allowed to like their sex how they want, same as food, books, n whatever else?

[radicaldumbass]

So you’re admitting you’ll expose yourself to abuse willingly in order to get meagre scraps of validation like being called a good girl. Sad, but not surprising. It’s called trauma bonding. And if someone enjoyed eating human flesh and reading graphic accounts of rape then I would also criticise them for that!

[stop-stalin-and-suck-my-dick]

Um. No.

1. I’m not being abused. My partner is not abusing me when we have sex. He doesn’t hit me, or degrade me, or make me feel unsafe, or violate my consent. We just like rough sex. Please chill the fuck out.

2. Yes, I enjoy praise and validation. My partner also enjoys praise, bc it feels nice, and I do not abuse him. I do not hit or degrade him, or violate his consent. We just like rough sex. Please chill the fuck out.

I’ve said this before and apparently I’m gonna say it again and again. Your personal disgust with something doesn’t obligate other people to change their practices and doesn’t render them immoral for having preferences that disgust you. You can just…not like things, and shut the fuck up. Or at least engage with them in a respectful manner instead of making accusations and assumptions about relationships you know nothing about.

[gaysonhq]

The truth in what you’re saying makes me happy

the fact OP wants to utter abuse when it comes to a kink that consensually turns on either the woman the man or both parties is laughable

Couples discuss this so boundaries are formed, sorry not everyone goes through abuse and is happy, and comforted, and enjoy each other and their kinks

Not everyone likes slow missionary bud, some of us wanna get sucked dry and pounded into oblivion while being told what good boys/girls we are

[ouma-against-dickheads]

The descriptions

[star-the-honeybun]

You aren’t anti-BDSM are you, Oma? Because I consider BDSM ok just as long as it’s safe, sane, and consensual.

[ouma-against-dickheads]

No, as long as it stays at home.

[iamsnowxc]

^^^

Sex and kink should stay in the bedroom. OP is still pretty off for dismissing everyone in BDSM relationships as being either abusive or abused. Especially since not everyone in BDSM relationships is an abuse survivor. Some people just like rough sex. It’s not that deep.

[eh-papi]

Just some information

- if you’re a gay guy or a straight women and you’re SEXUALLY attracted to a transmans pre-op genitalia then you’re not a gay guy or a straight women. If you are romantically attracted to them or even sexually attracted to the rest of their body (excluding maybe their chest), you’re still a gay guy/straight women.

- if you’re a lesbian or a straight man and you’re SEXUALLY attracted to a transwomens pre-op genitalia then you’re not a lesbian or a straight man. If you are romantically attracted to them or even sexually attracted to the rest of their body, you’re still a striaght guy/lesbian.

- but! That’s ok! You might be bisexual or at the very most homo or hetero flexible!

- and! Not dating trans people is ok! If you’re a straight guy/lesbian and don’t wanna date a transwomen because she has her original genitalia that’s fine! And visaversa for transmen!

There is nothing wrong with not dating certain people because you’re not attracted too. And there’s also nothing wrong with finding out you’re also attracted to both sets of genitalia.

[sweetbourbondreams-blog]

Sexuality is NOT just about genitals you fucking perv

[eh-papi]

Ah yes having a sexuality where sex is important makes people pervs. A revolutionary opinion.

[sweetbourbondreams-blog]

Sex is important, not a deal breaker. Lesbians like girls, not just vaginas. If you seriously think that you would be a whole different gender just because your genitalia changed then you’ve got your own problems to work on, but don’t project them onto anyone else.

[eh-papi]

It’s a deal breaker for people with sexualities that aren’t bisexual wow. Lesbians are attracted to their own sex which are girls with vaginas because most girls have vaginas. You totally wouldn’t and that’s completely irrelevant?

[iamsnowxc]

This is kinda dumb. When people say they’re attracted to someone they aren’t solely attracted to their genitalia. They’re attracted to their movements, personality, scent, figure, etc. If a girl having a penis isn’t a dealbreaker for a straight guy, it might not be the straightest thing ever but if they’re only okay with it as long as it’s with a woman, then you can’t really say they’re gay either.

[eh-papi]

I completely agree! I’ve never said anything about romantic attraction or love, only sexually attraction. As long as that straight guy isn’t turned on by that girls penis then he’s straight.

[iamsnowxc]

Sexual attraction doesn’t revolve solely around genetelia either though.

[eh-papi]

Just some information

- if you’re a gay guy or a straight women and you’re SEXUALLY attracted to a transmans pre-op genitalia then you’re not a gay guy or a straight women. If you are romantically attracted to them or even sexually attracted to the rest of their body (excluding maybe their chest), you’re still a gay guy/straight women.

- if you’re a lesbian or a straight man and you’re SEXUALLY attracted to a transwomens pre-op genitalia then you’re not a lesbian or a straight man. If you are romantically attracted to them or even sexually attracted to the rest of their body, you’re still a striaght guy/lesbian.

- but! That’s ok! You might be bisexual or at the very most homo or hetero flexible!

- and! Not dating trans people is ok! If you’re a straight guy/lesbian and don’t wanna date a transwomen because she has her original genitalia that’s fine! And visaversa for transmen!

There is nothing wrong with not dating certain people because you’re not attracted too. And there’s also nothing wrong with finding out you’re also attracted to both sets of genitalia.

[sweetbourbondreams-blog]

Sexuality is NOT just about genitals you fucking perv

[eh-papi]

Ah yes having a sexuality where sex is important makes people pervs. A revolutionary opinion.

[sweetbourbondreams-blog]

Sex is important, not a deal breaker. Lesbians like girls, not just vaginas. If you seriously think that you would be a whole different gender just because your genitalia changed then you’ve got your own problems to work on, but don’t project them onto anyone else.

[eh-papi]

It’s a deal breaker for people with sexualities that aren’t bisexual wow. Lesbians are attracted to their own sex which are girls with vaginas because most girls have vaginas. You totally wouldn’t and that’s completely irrelevant?

[iamsnowxc]

This is kinda dumb. When people say they’re attracted to someone they aren’t solely attracted to their genitalia. They’re attracted to their movements, personality, scent, figure, etc. If a girl having a penis isn’t a dealbreaker for a straight guy, it might not be the straightest thing ever but if they’re only okay with it as long as it’s with a woman, then you can’t really say they’re gay either.

[brainstatic]

The president doesn’t know the Earth is round.

[carohoku]

oh god this isn’t an onion article.  https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/13/trump-world-knowledge-diplomatic-774801 

[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

That last comment could be the theme of this entire administration.

[daffodil-discussions-deactivate]

Discourse over using ‘queer’ as a label be like… Some people: Hey, that’s cool that you’re comfortable with that label. And that’s great if you want to use it for yourself. But please refrain from using it for me because the word personally makes me uncomfortable, and I’d rather not have it pinned to my identity. Thanks. Other people: Umm no. You have to use queer too because queer is more inclusive than lgbt. You have to call yourself queer to include me in your identity.  or… Some people: I literally only apply the queer label to myself because I feel like it’s the most simple option I have. When I call myself queer, most people know I mean I’m part of the lgbt community. I don’t mind the word queer, but I understand that a lot of people do, so I’m not going to use it for anyone unless I know for a fact they’re okay with it too. Other people: But I’m personally uncomfortable with the word queer, so new rule, no one ever is allowed to call themselves queer or identify as queer. I’m in charge and only my experience matters. It’s a slur and I forbid you from reclaiming it. And both groups of “other people” are equally wrong.

[iamsnowxc]

Tbh tho

[stimman3000]

in 2018 we start opressing people who like their hot chocolate with water

[stimman3000]

if youre lactose intolerant you can stay but youre on fucking thin ice

[ciceroi-nightingale]

I eat the powder straight from the pack

[jammdeluxe]

Hey do you know how horrible what you just said was

[iamsnowxc]

There’s less calories

[lolbiit]

Lecter: Ha! Hey, pedophiles. Watch this. I’m gonna tell them I infiltrated their community and watch them turn on each other! They’re gonna be scrambling to prove that they aren’t me.

Antis: he he me me big Lecter kin.. Hey no fuck you IM Lecter I SAID NO DOUBLES

[cryptictrans]

I’m a NOKOP.

I’m a non-offending killer of people. Or, NOM/NOKOP for short.

I just think it’s 100% okay go kill people, you know? Like, who doesn’t look at someone and think “wow, I could totally kill them right now.”

KOPs and NOKOPs are 100% valid and shouldn’t go to jail. It’s not like we can help our urges!

KOPs don’t need help! We need acceptance.

My killing range is preferably 6-15. Anyone older is gross and contributes too much to society.

I don’t want to kill anyone myself, and actual murderers are gross, but I just can’t not look at someone and want to shove a knife in their chest!

See how horrible and sickening this sounds? Lemme repeat the same things but with “map”.

I’m a NOMAP.

I’m a non-offending minor attracted person.

I just think it’s 100% okay to date a child, you know? Like, who doesn’t look at a child and think “wow, I could totally have sex with them right now.”

MAPs and NOMAPs are 100% valid and shouldn’t go to jail. It’s not like we can help our urges!

MAPs don’t need help! We need acceptance.

My age range is preferably 6-15. Anyone older is gross and contributes too much to society.

I don’t want to have sex with a kid myself, and actual pedophiles are gross, but I just can’t not look at kid and want to have a sexual conversation with them!

* some things have been exaggerated for dramatic effect

You want to say being a nomap is perfectly fine. Would you say the same about a murderer who just simply hasn’t committed a murder yet? About someone who thinks rape is 100% okay? About someone who thinks abuse is 100% okay, but would do it themself?

The answer is clear; no. You wouldn’t. Because that’s immoral.

[bats-back-baby]

we don’t want to date kids

please just. try to pay the barest amount of attention to what we say before you do stuff like this

and yes. if you sometimes want to kill someone but realize that killing is wrong and you’re committed to never hurting someone then yeah. you aren’t a bad person. to say otherwise is abelist

[cryptictrans]

* some things have been exaggerated for dramatic effect

The only kind of map I can accept is the kind that realizes it’s wrong and seeks help. Sadly, most of these people who I’m exposed to don’t get help, or don’t even want help. Sure, I might be being exposed to the worst part of your group, but the worst paints the rest for any community. It’s sad, as I experience it with my own communities, but it’s true.

[bats-back-baby]

the worst of the anti community: doxxes people. ruins lives. kills teenagers. sends mutilated animals. threatens to kill people. sexually abuses children.

worst of the nomap community: I don’t think I need therapy

yeah that seems like equal amounts of bad

and heres the thing. you fucking exaggerated it for no other reason than to make us all look like monsters

(edit: I forgot to mention how the anti community constantly spreads cp and uses it for various activities)

[anonymous-for-the-children-deac]

Would you be the same bats that went and told a teenage girl about how they’d look good in a hurtcore CP film?

I sincerely hope not.. as that would put you on par with Lecter as being the biggest hyprocrite known to Tumblr.

[bats-back-baby]

I never said that. you’re making shit up

and what the fuck did lecter do. he was you’re fucking lapdog being manipulated by you because he had a crush on you until you grew tired of him and threw him away

[lolbiit]

Lecter has child porn of a fucking 16 year old, hes racist, enbyphobic, and an all over horrible person. Quit defending him, gross add.

[bats-back-baby]

he has nudes of his sixteen year old partner

sixteen is an adult

that’s above the age of consent

asswipe

[adhdaiden]

you gonna address the blatant anti-semitism, exorsexism, and racism too or…?

[bats-back-baby]

please tell me where any of this is. preferably with links not screenshot

[lolbiit]

We did. And you keep responding defending him having child porn, but you won’t comment on the fact that Lecter is racist, enbyphobic, antisemetic, islamaphobic… Well? Where’s your comment on that?

[bats-back-baby]

I have commented on it. I am looking through it and verifying info. I will bring it up with him and explain that those kind of views will not be tolerated if the information checks out

[lolbiit]

$20 this pedo’s gonna defend Lecter being a racist bigot guys

[bats-back-baby]

please stop posting hate in our tags. especially these Uber long posts

and no. racism and anti semitism is inexcusable. I will not defend that kind of behavior if it is happening

and no screenshots are not proof. I can fabricate screenshots easily as can anyone else

[lolbiit]

You guys all owe me $20

I knew you’d say “it’s fake wahhh!!”

Go to his deviantart yourself, it’s all there, dumbass

[youarenotamapyouareapredator]

How about this discord convo where he confirms he does these things? Cause here ya go. This is my only comment. @homotalian can take it from here. They’ve got all you need.

Sit down, think about this for about 35-40 minutes, then come on back with a solid argument. Also,

The first website (which is a .gov.) Literally states any sexual picture of a person under 18 is child pornography. It took me 3 seconds to google it.

Do a little more research next time pal. It aint that hard.

@homotalian was this satisfactory?

[lolbiit]

Extraordinarily. Thank you

//I have that ss but I didn’t wanna use it in case I outed anyone

[adam-is-still-here]

You are aware the age of consent isn’t 18 everywhere right? Not everywhere is the US.

[lolbiit]

It’s generally 16, not 18. But everywhere, including Russia where Lecter lives, nudes of someone under 18 are child pornography.

[iamsnowxc]

Who cares what the law is. A 16 year old isn’t mature enough to date a 20 year old. Maturity wise, they’re from two different worlds.

[cryptictrans]

I’m a NOKOP.

I’m a non-offending killer of people. Or, NOM/NOKOP for short.

I just think it’s 100% okay go kill people, you know? Like, who doesn’t look at someone and think “wow, I could totally kill them right now.”

KOPs and NOKOPs are 100% valid and shouldn’t go to jail. It’s not like we can help our urges!

KOPs don’t need help! We need acceptance.

My killing range is preferably 6-15. Anyone older is gross and contributes too much to society.

I don’t want to kill anyone myself, and actual murderers are gross, but I just can’t not look at someone and want to shove a knife in their chest!

See how horrible and sickening this sounds? Lemme repeat the same things but with “map”.

I’m a NOMAP.

I’m a non-offending minor attracted person.

I just think it’s 100% okay to date a child, you know? Like, who doesn’t look at a child and think “wow, I could totally have sex with them right now.”

MAPs and NOMAPs are 100% valid and shouldn’t go to jail. It’s not like we can help our urges!

MAPs don’t need help! We need acceptance.

My age range is preferably 6-15. Anyone older is gross and contributes too much to society.

I don’t want to have sex with a kid myself, and actual pedophiles are gross, but I just can’t not look at kid and want to have a sexual conversation with them!

* some things have been exaggerated for dramatic effect

You want to say being a nomap is perfectly fine. Would you say the same about a murderer who just simply hasn’t committed a murder yet? About someone who thinks rape is 100% okay? About someone who thinks abuse is 100% okay, but would do it themself?

The answer is clear; no. You wouldn’t. Because that’s immoral.

[bats-back-baby]

we don’t want to date kids

please just. try to pay the barest amount of attention to what we say before you do stuff like this

and yes. if you sometimes want to kill someone but realize that killing is wrong and you’re committed to never hurting someone then yeah. you aren’t a bad person. to say otherwise is abelist

[cryptictrans]

* some things have been exaggerated for dramatic effect

The only kind of map I can accept is the kind that realizes it’s wrong and seeks help. Sadly, most of these people who I’m exposed to don’t get help, or don’t even want help. Sure, I might be being exposed to the worst part of your group, but the worst paints the rest for any community. It’s sad, as I experience it with my own communities, but it’s true.

[bats-back-baby]

the worst of the anti community: doxxes people. ruins lives. kills teenagers. sends mutilated animals. threatens to kill people. sexually abuses children.

worst of the nomap community: I don’t think I need therapy

yeah that seems like equal amounts of bad

and heres the thing. you fucking exaggerated it for no other reason than to make us all look like monsters

(edit: I forgot to mention how the anti community constantly spreads cp and uses it for various activities)

[anonymous-for-the-children-deac]

Would you be the same bats that went and told a teenage girl about how they’d look good in a hurtcore CP film?

I sincerely hope not.. as that would put you on par with Lecter as being the biggest hyprocrite known to Tumblr.

[bats-back-baby]

I never said that. you’re making shit up

and what the fuck did lecter do. he was you’re fucking lapdog being manipulated by you because he had a crush on you until you grew tired of him and threw him away

[lolbiit]

Lecter has child porn of a fucking 16 year old, hes racist, enbyphobic, and an all over horrible person. Quit defending him, gross add.

[bats-back-baby]

he has nudes of his sixteen year old partner

sixteen is an adult

that’s above the age of consent

asswipe

[adhdaiden]

you gonna address the blatant anti-semitism, exorsexism, and racism too or…?

[bats-back-baby]

please tell me where any of this is. preferably with links not screenshot

[lolbiit]

We did. And you keep responding defending him having child porn, but you won’t comment on the fact that Lecter is racist, enbyphobic, antisemetic, islamaphobic… Well? Where’s your comment on that?

[bats-back-baby]

I have commented on it. I am looking through it and verifying info. I will bring it up with him and explain that those kind of views will not be tolerated if the information checks out

[lolbiit]

$20 this pedo’s gonna defend Lecter being a racist bigot guys

[iamsnowxc]

You’re not an adult when you’re 16. You barely know what’s going on with your body when you’re 16.

- A 16 year old.

[lemonglacier-blog]

to kids claiming they cant afford a therapist: talk to your counselor

to adults claiming they cant afford a therapist: get a job

[iamsnowxc]

Self-diagnosing is still risky and potentially dangerous ❤️

[vampiregirl2345]

Antis: you should always see a doctor.

Also antis: *most likely self diagnose the flu because the symptoms are obvious*

Antis: you cant self diagnose cancer, so why do you think you can self diagnose a mental illness?

Most common mental disorders: *are obvious and hard to misdiagnose, especially depression and anxiety*

Antis: you cant self diagnose autism. The symptoms overlap with lots of other things.

An autism assessment: *expensive out of pocket*

Autism itself: *dsm 5 criteria is online, lots of scholarly articles are online, blogs and forums and personal opinion papers are online, so imformation is easily accessible*

Most self diagnosers: *research the hell out of a disorder, most of the time still doubt their conclusion, usually have the disorder or something very similar*

[iamsnowxc]

I’ve had OCD for most of my life but until a few years ago, I assumed it was GAD and I treated it as such. It wasn’t only ineffective but I was also wrong. I had a completely different disorder. This is why self diagnosis is harmful. There is still a huge chance of being wrong. Unless you’re Issue isn’t in the DSM yet and you have no choice but to self-diagnose, go to a doctor!

[vampiregirl2345]

Antis: you should always see a doctor.

Also antis: *most likely self diagnose the flu because the symptoms are obvious*

Antis: you cant self diagnose cancer, so why do you think you can self diagnose a mental illness?

Most common mental disorders: *are obvious and hard to misdiagnose, especially depression and anxiety*

Antis: you cant self diagnose autism. The symptoms overlap with lots of other things.

An autism assessment: *expensive out of pocket*

Autism itself: *dsm 5 criteria is online, lots of scholarly articles are online, blogs and forums and personal opinion papers are online, so imformation is easily accessible*

Most self diagnosers: *research the hell out of a disorder, most of the time still doubt their conclusion, usually have the disorder or something very similar*

[iamsnowxc]

Online research will never overpower actual college education. Self-diagnosis is bad because a lot of mental health issues can look like each other and it’s hard to pinpoint which ones you’re suffering from without a third person perspective.

People who self-diagnose shouldn’t claim that they have {mental illness}. They can say that they suspect they have it based on their research and/or intuition but you still don’t have the proper knowledge and education to make an official diagnosis. I’m happy to help people who think they have OCD but it would annoy me if they claimed to have it 100% and went on to spread possible misinformation about it.

Also, depression isn’t even comparable to self-dxxing the flu. Everyone gets the flu or the common cold at least once in their lives. It’s easy to figure out what’s wrong without going to a doctor. Most people don’t have a mental illness. That’s why you need a specialist. You have have a major depression episode without having the disorder and you can have a high level of anxiety without having a disorder.

The DSM is online but so is WebMD. When you think you have pneumonia based on WebMD, you go to a doctor to get it confirmed and treated. When you think you have depression based off what you made out of the DSM, you go to a doctor to have it confirmed and treated. GPs usually know how to handle anxiety and depression. If not, they’ll give you a referral.

Stop using mental illness as an identity. People who actually have them don’t want them. This type of romantisation is harmful.

[disabilityuserboxes]

This user is self diagnosed*

[iamsnowxc]

I understand self diagnosis to some extent but people should really not glorify it or sport these labels around and talk about their self-dxxed illness with confidence when they don’t even know for sure if they have it.

[only-on-tomblr-deactivated20210]

Hmm, scrolling you say? Lets go.

Okay so, fake French, their blog is fucking full of it. Literally every post has some form of cutesy watered down “Fraincais!1!” . THEY ARENT EVEN FRENCH.

Okay okay, waIT, FACTKIN?!?!?

Oh my,o HM Y

ASDFGHJKL I CA N T 

They literally have 50+ kins. I wish I was joking.  Plus, YOU AREN’T MITCH O H M Y Y Y GOD

Your self diagnosed DID does not have anything to do with being Factkin.

Yy-you’re 15,,,, and you self dxxed,,,,,, alll of this?????

WHAT DID I FUCKING SAY ABOUT HAMILKIN IM GOING TO RIP MY H A IR OUT

Hmm, so they say they’re self diagnosed autistic, and Jack is one of their special interests?

aND THEN TURN AROUND AND SAY THEY’RE KIN WITH HIM

TD;LR: A gross UWU Factkin who can’t speak proper French

[iamsnowxc]

Even the most unlucky person in the world doesn’t have this many mental health issues.