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I finished Silent Hill 2, the original not the remake. I did not expect that when I said "yeah I feel bad for James Sunderland now, I hated him when I started to game", I'd have to explain myself when the game is like... Empathy: The Horror Game. Felt like I got mixed reactions saying that which was super surprising to me.
Like man idk I figured the whole point is to get a look into someone's grief after committing a horrific act. That is a nuanced topic it can't be seen in a black and white way
Unless maybe like I feel extra sympathy for James because I went through a very similar experience with terminal illness (minus the murder part ofc). So I'm just like ah. Yeah. I get it (to an extent). Yeah James should not have killed his wife, that is not a good thing to do. Yes it's also not great that he harbored resentment for his sick wife, but that's a nuanced topic and you can also see his perspective as to why he started to harbor resentment.
James' resentment is not what gave him the motivation to kill Mary. But it is what gave him the ability to commit the act. I would argue the catalyst was the fact Mary was in pain and wanted it to end, even though she was scared of death. James wanted to protect her, he didn't want to see her in pain. I don't think James actually hated Mary, despite what he says to her. We see that he does feel genuine guilt, hell, he's disgusted once he remembers that he even killed her in the first place.
Mary and James both suffered. I don't say that with the intention to downplay Mary's suffering. But I guess it might be harder to understand James' perspective if you haven't been in the shoes of someone who had to watch a loved one deteriorate due to illness. It is stressful, it is so painful to witness when you can't do anything about it. If a loved one has a wish it's... hard not to abide by it, especially if they're suffering. Does that make James killing her okay? No! Of course not! Murder is bad I shouldn't have to say that! The ethics behind James mercy-killing his terminally ill wife is an entirely different conversation though.
I had the same thoughts prior to playing the game, but I now have this big gripe with people claiming James is this very misogynistic wife killer when he's not. Like at all. I think some things might be purposefully misleading about the character designs. Cause yknow, yes the monsters have a... interesting design to them. But look at it in perspective of Silent Hill being a manifestation of someone's guilt. I would argue the monsters represent some kind of sexual repression... which if that's what James is seeing then he feels guilt over it. Right? Or if you're like me who had this preconceived idea that James isn't a great guy, the monsters can serve to further that idea up until the story starts to piece together. Though whether or not that's the intention, I couldn't say. I havent played Maria's story yet but yknow. Point stands. Take what she represents and look at it through the lens of someone experiencing guilt.
James is not a heartless man. Every interaction he has while in Silent Hill proves that.
Its important to remember we are looking into a very mentally ill persons mind. People have bad thoughts. James is no exception to that. We are looking at something that is painfully human.
My point is just, actually think about what you're seeing in this game. The human mind isn't something you can take at face value. Now of course everything I say is personal interpretation so this isn't really meant as like an objective take on the games story. Aside from what is explicitly confirmed
Wow this is suddenly getting some interaction, very neat! Anyway I finished remake and have some more thoughts to add on, had a ton of time to sit with this game haha. This may or may not just be me parroting the same talking points so bear with me please.
I think the most obvious and rational take here is that it's objectively bad that James killed Mary. Like genuinely there is no excuse for it and I don't think anyone really tries to excuse it. I like looking at James as a protagonist with a very dubious morality, and wow does this guy have the fandom in a very huge divide! For good reason of course.
And like, take everything I say with a grain of salt. I am very aware I have biased opinions because I do love James quite a lot. And as I briefly mentioned in my original post, ironically Silent Hill 2 helped me work through a lot of grief I had bottled up. Different perspectives, different opinions etc etc don't dogpile me okay? Okay.
I still believe there's a lot of nuance with James and his actions. I can't get behind the notion that he genuinely hated Mary. Caretakers fatigue is a very real thing (trust me), but aside from that I took his spiel about "I hated you and I wanted you out of the way" was a way for him to further his own torment. Does he deserve that torment.... yeah. I won't sugarcoat it he absolutely does deserve it. That doesn't mean those thoughts are how he genuinely feels though.
The big glaring hint here is the fact he's in Silent Hill at all honestly. You think this guy would go through legitimate hell just for the slightest chance at seeing Mary again if he hated her? Even if he didn't remember what he did, I feel like that alone speaks for something right?
The video tape as well (the normal one), is a favorite of mine when making an interpretation of what James and Mary's relationship could have been like. An interpretation, because despite being the center of this story's plot we don't actually know that much about Mary and their marriage in general unless you comb through flavor text and I suppose the novelization as well (which is kinda crazy to me?). The tape, being recorded by James, focuses solely on Mary. It doesn't pan to the scenery as she talks about it, no glances at their hotel room once the recording begins. He's focused on her. Mary also makes a remark about him recording again, which I always thought it was sweet that felt like it implied he was filming every part of their trip together. I personally always felt like James considered Mary his soulmate, and I know many, many people would probably strongly disagree with me on that.
Now for my insanely hot take about James that would definitely get people up in arms against me:
I think James killing Mary was a selfish act of love.
Before someone comes for my throat (any of the 3 people who would read this) hear out my perspective. Calling this an act of love doesn't excuse what he did and I'm not saying this to paint it in a romantic light. Its impossible to do so when you see him in the act. It's horrific and feels like something I as the viewer shouldn't have witnessed.
What I mean is that could be how James saw it. He watched Mary slowly deteriorate for three years from a terminal illness that she was heavily suffering from. I think James couldn't bear to see her in so much pain, and definitely wasn't doing too great himself mentally. So he kills her with the intention of setting her free from that pain. That's also not an easy thing to do, feelings of resentment or not. That's still taking a life, and one James had loved dearly at that.
Does this make him a good husband in that moment? No! He shouldn't have taken away Mary's choice! This can't really be seen as a "pulling the plug on life support" situation. Mary was on her death bed yes, but she was still coherent and could make her own decisions. She did not make the decision to die yet.
So my point, again, is that James is a very complex individual who did horrific things while in a bad mental state. I still believe the point of Silent Hill is to make you empathize with him to some degree. As I said before this game is one that can't be seen in a black or white perspective, there's so much nuance to it and the actions all of the characters take.
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