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if it’s not clear, I love Eddie and Bill

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The losers x The party

Bill Denbrough as Mike Wheeler: Most obvious comparison ever, they are literally the same character just in different fonts. Both are the leaders of their respective group, both come from a neglectful family, both are authors, both are clearly in love with their best friend but unable to express their feelings, both are depressed and sometimes can be VERY annoying. And this are just a few similarities.

Eddie Kaspbrak as Will Byers: I was wrong, they are the true twins. Both are seen as the weakest in their group that consistently treaded like they need to be protected (the both save their groups numbers times), both have daddy issues, both have a “crush” on their best friend who they see as perfect, both are heavily bullied because believed to be queers and EASILY went through the worst traumas in the entire group. I could go on for the entire day so it’s best if I stop for now, lol.

Richie Tozier as Dustin Henderson: I don’t see them getting compared as often I would like. They are soooo similar: both are ridiculed for their looks, both are easier the funniest members of their respective groups, both have problems with their teeth, both can be very childish, both suffer very much for their loneliness.

Or

Ben Hanscom as Dustin Henderson: Even if they are nowhere as similar as with Richie, a some factors that are also in common like: both are ridiculed for their looks and and both suffer very much for their loneliness.

Stanley Uris as Lucas Sinclair: They both represent the voices of reason in their respective groups, most of the times just because they act simply more mature than others, they also are part of minorities and often get bullied just because of that. They also are the only ones that are really do go against their leaders when they come up with ideas that really don’t make sense.

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Mike Hanlon as Lucas Sinclair: All the arguments I’ve already stated for Stan can work just as fine for Mike (they have a very similar role in the book) so I’ve no much to add. Maybe the fact that they both played a sport in high school?

Beverly Marsh as Max Mayfield: I had an hard time deciding between El and Max, but in the end Max fits her just better. Both have a troubling home life, both are seen as cool by the boys in their groups, both can be very sassy and have a very strong spirit. And lowkey I don’t really mind imagining Bev and Stan as a couple… 10 times better than Billverly anyway

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To me, rylers doesn’t make any sense, Richie and Will wouldn’t like each other. Will would find him mean and annoying and Richie would find him boring, BUT Eddie and Mike would actually work as a couple. Because guess what? Mike and Richie have two completely different personalities.

Mike would see a lot of Will in Eddie and Eddie would see a lot of Bill in him. So yeah, they could be something. Wheelbrak lowkey slaps.

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I love when I’m reading the book or a fanfic and I get reminded of how small Eddie is next to the other losers. The scene when Mike or Bill manage to pick him up without any problems are also so cute.

He is really three apples tall.

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Sometimes you just have to feel bad for Richie.

He considered Bill his best friend:

Just for him to only see Eddie important to him enough to be called his friend:

That’s pretty much why I’m not a very big fun of Bichie. I just feel bad for Richie, he wasn’t even good enough to be friendzoned.

Kaspbrough all the way btw.

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The thing about the argument about Eddie’s sexuality is that in reality it doesn’t really matter if Eddie was or wasn’t into boys, especially when talking about the book.

Eddie was called homophobic slurs just because he was seen as frail and weak and so “less of a man” by people like Henry. Eddie was an outcast because he was perceived as feminine and, at the time, that was a synonym of being queer.

Eddie wasn’t dealing with internalized homophobia, he was dealing with actual homophobia. It didn’t matter if he actually liked men, the things is that people in Derry believed so and because of that they made his life a living hell.

He liked Bill because he didn’t care about what people said about him or his sexuality, but treated him like a normal kid. EVEN RICHIE CLEARLY TREATED HIM DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE OF THAT.

That is why he was especially disturbed hearing Adrian Mellon’s story. HE COULD HAVE BEEN THAT GUY BEATEN TO DEATH BECAUSE SOME BOYS HATED QUEER PEOPLE.

So yeah, him being called slurs holds a completely different meaning in the novel than Richie in the 2019 movie being called the same things. Richie was a victim of homophobia because he flirted with men and Henry was disgusted by that, Eddie was called those names because he was more effeminate than your average guy in the 1950s.

Eddie seemed gay, Richie was gay.

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I've just realized that I imagine Bill, Richie, Bev, Myra and Sonia to be all gingers. I don't know what effect has Eddie on gingers, but keep going ig.

Richie's hair would actually be auburn and Myra's/Sonia's strawberry blonde, BUT STILL EDDIE SURE LOVES SOME GINGERS. I know that red is your favorite color but calm down boy.

AND I ALMOST FORGOT THAT I HC BILL'S MOM TO EDDIE'S FIRST "CRUSH" AND SHE IS ALSO GINGER.

Yes, Eddie for me is the one into moms okay? NOT Richie.

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I was rereading the book and tell me how I forgot that the FIRST loser Bill remembered after Mike’s call is EDDIE.

Like the exact first thing different from Georgie he remembered was Eddie saying thanks to him for saving him from the bullies, not even Beverly, just Eddie hopelessly thanking him. And then people act like if Bill didn’t value Eddie over the others.

Mike Wheeler type of behavior we got here.

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Will in stranger things s2 makes me genuinely so sick.

Even before the story his life already sucked, his father was an abusive deadbeat that treated him like shit and canonically called him homophobic slurs and he was VERY bullied by kids in his grade, and yet he was always kind and generous with other. And let’s not forget the worst thing, HIS BEST FRIEND/CRUSH WAS MIKE WHEELER. That might be a curse on its own (jk).

He went through so much traumas already in the first season with being stuck in the upside down when he was barely 12 years old and literally went through what he could believed was hell and let’s not forget in what condition Joyce and Hopper found him, just to come back and being treated so bad by his classmates and having to live those traumas all over just to be called crazy and not being able to enjoy your childhood.

When he was calling for his mom to save him I was really about to cry.

Then also keep in mind that what happened to him with the mind flayer was clearly a metaphor of SA, JUST TO GET POSSESSED BY HIM. Maybe the worst thing is that he was still conscious while that thing used his body to kill people he loved and cared about. And let’s not forget the physical pain that caused, he actually felt like he was being burned alive btw.

HE IS MY BABY AND WENT TROUGH SO MUCH SHIT THAT HE DIDNT DESERVE.

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Y’all can say whatever you want, but the closest thing to earlier seasons bylers/miwi that there is in IT is kaspbrough, not reddie.

Two childhood best friends who spend most of their time together.

One is little and seen as frail by people in his life (mostly because of the traumas he has endured), starting rumors at school about his sexuality. He also also completely obsessed by the other and sees him as this perfect person who can do no wrong to the point he would die for him.

The other is the leader of his respect group that is saw as the strongest, he takes all the problems in his hand, even if it gets to the point he can’t take it anymore and believes he is the one that needs to take care of the first character. He is VERY protective of him. He is also the one who falls in love with the female lead in the story, even if sometimes it seems like he still cares more about the first character than her.

While the similarities between Eddie and Will are pretty clear, even if Finn Wolfhard is the one to play Mike, Bill is ten times more similar to him than Richie (who is way more similar to Dustin btw).

And let’s remember who were the first one by Eddie and Will’s side when they got hurt? Who were the protecting them from the bullies? Who were the ones that always tried to confort them when they were scared? BILL AND MIKE RESPECTIVELY.

YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT YOU DONT SEE THAT, THEIR DYNAMIC ARE ALMOST THE SAME.

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Also thinking abt how many good double dates byler and Kaspbrough would have. They would all be. Best friends.

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Parallels between Beverly and Eddie that, parallels between Georgie and Eddie there… WHAT ABOUT THE PARALLELS BETWEEN EDDIE AND HENRY?!?!?

Henry and Eddie are nothing different than two different sides of the same coin. THAT IS WHY EDDIE KILLING HIM IS SO IMPORTANT TO BOTH OF THEM. I don’t mind Mike killing him, but Richie??? Like why???

Let’s back to the subject… Eddie and Henry couldn’t be more different, but yet shares so many similarities. Both are characterized by their abusive childhood that in both cases is defined by the emotional incestual relationship they had with their respective parent.

Butch doesn’t treat Henry like a son, but like a full grown man. He doesn’t hide his sexual life to him, he expects him to work for him, he doesn’t take care of him in any way, ecc… so Henry tries his best to fulfill that role and make his dad proud of him. And when that doesn’t happen he gets simply ignored or beaten.

Then there is Sonia, whose abuses I’ve already mentioned multiple times and plans to talk about them again. To summarize my other posts, basically she treats Eddie as a replacement of her late husband making sure he doesn’t leave her by being extremely controlling and by making him believe that he can’t live without her.

And that abuses reflect in how they act: Henry trying so bad to be that macho man his father wants him to be and Eddie having to depend on other.

Henry as an adult couldn’t keep up the act and Eddie was so sheltered from reality then both not being able to grow up.

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Okay, okay I need to talk about this. We all know the scene before the final battle where it transformed into Georgie to try to guilt trip him? So in the book all the losers try to help him by making him remember that what he was seeing wasn’t really Georgie and things like that… but a detailed is that it/Georgie always keeps it’s eyes on Bill when the other losers are shouting EXCEPT when Eddie starts speaking and in that moment its eyes turn towards Eddie trying to make him shut up.

What if it did that because it believed that Eddie was the only one able to make Bill come to reality?

WHAT IF EVEN IT REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT EDDIE WAS TO BILL?

Yeah, nobody can convince me it was only a coincidence.

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I’m not a big fan of the fact that the setting of IT was changed from the 1950s to the 1980s, but AT LEAST if they really wanted that aesthetic they should have given Eddie a bowl cut like Will Byers in the first two seasons.

He would have rocked that haircut.

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It’s so ironic how most of the fandom hc Eddie as the one with the best grades and Richie as the dumbest when they are definitely the other way around.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Eddie was like a F student, he was smart, but for me he was never really interested in school. That’s why I believe he is the only loser that never went to college. Eddie was good with practical things or things where you need logic for, but NEVER book smart not because he wasn’t able, but just because he didn’t care to. I also like to think that he was good at public speaking, but sucked at writing, so most of the times he would just ask Bill to help him out when he had to do it and the other way around when Bill needed help with Maths.

Richie is the opposite way around, he is your classic nerd and straight A+ student. He always gets good grades and he’s just able to remember things without having to study much. He canonically also went to college where I like to believe he studied something really complicated subjects like Physics or Mathematics, just to choose radio hosting once he got his PhD. But you couldn’t trust that man with fixing the bike chains… you’re lucky if you don’t end up with a monocycle.

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Every time I see someone calling themselves “#1 Bill Denbrough’s fan” I just roll my eyes.

No, you’ll never beat Eddie Kaspbrak. Nobody will ever be able to love Bill as much as he did.

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To all those who celebrate, cant wait to begin rereading IT on May 28th (the day of the phone calls cause I feel like it)

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I don’t get a lot of changes in IT Chapter, but one that really bugs me is the fact that Stan was given this role of “hero” that sacrificed himself for the other when that it was never a thing in the book.

Stan died because he was a coward and he didn’t want to fight his fears again. That doesn’t mean he’s a bas person, he’s meant to represent people who can fight evil anymore and simply get overwhelmed by their struggles to the point they choose “the easy” way out.

The one who sacrificed himself was Eddie, but he was happy doing so if that meant that his friends would make it. His death being only for shock factor in the movies makes no sense. Since the start pf the novel Eddie was sure that he wasn’t going to come back from Derry, but yet he decided to be there to fight IT.

Eddie died because he wanted to for his friends and to finally be free.