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Camren timeline - pt 1 - 2012

Part zero…

As you may well know, Camila and Lauren met at The X Factor US 2012. They ran into each other during the blind auditions. Camila was first impressed by Lauren’s voice and then by her beauty and was really intimidated by her. Lauren thought Camila was cute, but not much of a competition until she heard her sing. For reference, Camila’s first impression of Lauren also matches her lyrics in Señorita:

Sweat drippin’ off me Before I even knew her name

Camren became friends on the first day of bootcamp, according to Lauren. In an interview to Terrell, Dinah talked about how she met the other girls and mentioned that Camila and Lauren’s “relationship” was pretty close because they were both from Miami. This makes a lot of sense because, living in the same city, Lauren and Camila shared a lot of similar experiences. This goes deeper as they both have Cuban backgrounds. Not only are they from the same city, intelectually compatible, but they also share a cultural baggage. Therefore, it’s possible that they were like a piece of home to one another.

Lauren comes up with the nickname Camzi after they went home after filming bootcamp. It’s their first pic together. Then 5H is born as the Lylas. Here’s their first interview, with lots of admiring from Camz’s side. They make it through the Judges House with Impossible and had to change their name to 1432 due to legal reasons for the first week of competition. In their performance of WANEGBT, Camila was picked by Demi was the one “who did it for her”. They make it through to next with a cover of Skyscraper. In these performances, Camren don’t interact much on stage.

In the second week, 1432 finally became 5H. While singing A Thousand Years, we catch Camila admiring Lauren singing for the first time (1:18). While the judges were giving them feebdack, Lauren leans in to whisper something to Camila, but Baby C thought she was going to kiss her cheek (3:21).

Camren are glued to each other in the TTT-Top12. Lauren even pretends to bite Camila’s arm. It’s a huge step up from before. Maybe they just grew closer naturally, but something might have happened during the Top 12 Finalists Party. You guys know how party works. They also stayed next to each other during their performance of Hero.

On the fourth week, we had the infamous “Mine is Lauren” on their TTT-Top 10. In spite of reacting to everyone’s celebrity crush, Camila hadn’t revealed hers until prompted by Ally. When she does, their reaction is super positive, with Lauren hugging her and DNA cooing their support. I don’t think any of them saw anything beyond friendship at this point, but Camila was very obviously crushing on Lauren because L wasn’t a celebrity per say. Camila gave the same answer in a Twitter Q&A.

In their performance of I’ll Stand By You, Camila keeps her hand on Lauren’s waist all the time while the judges are giving their feedback. It gets to the point where it’s weird because Lauren wants to celebrate with Normally and Camila wants to do the same with Dinah, but Camila doesn’t let go and Lauren doesn’t pull away. Instead she squeezes Camila’s hand on her waist at one point.

The TTT-T8 is the only one in which Camren are not wrapped in their bubble - but because Lauren is focused on comforting Ally, who had lost her grandfather on that week. Keaton also comes up in a tweet question. In 2013, he said he had dated Lauren during the show. However, Keaton and his group were also mentored by Simon Cowell, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he had set up a small PR here to promote both of his acts. Especially since this report is so PR-y. I’m inclined to think it’s PR here, but it wouldn’t be a surprise if they were actually legit.

On their performance of Stronger, they were focused on Ally. However, in a later interview, Lauren doesn’t like it when Mani mentions Camila’s butt (1:34). Yet, she warns Camila not to say she’s her girl crush during their interview with Chelsea.

In TTT-Top 6, Camren were still focused on Ally but managed to have a few subtle exchanges even so. On 0:44, Lauren starts to rub Ally’s arm thinking it was Camila’s, which makes her get an WTF look from Ally. On 0:50, Lo begins to play with Camila’s hand. On 1:34, we have the iconic exchange:

C: I just wanna do this for the rest of my life L: With me C: No L: Yes C: No L: Admit it C: Yes

That makes Lauren giggle and has Norminah laughing as if they knew something. Only Ally seems to be oblivious that this wasn’t just some playful flirting. They didn’t interact on their performances of Set Fire to the Rain and Give Your Heart a Break. No interaction on Anytime You Need a Friend as well, but Lauren looked nervous and Camila had to shoot her a calming glance a couple of times.

In the TTT-Top 4 before the semifinals, Camren just hugged each other a couple of times… and Camila slapped Lauren’s butt at 0:24. No interaction in Anything Could Happen and the Spanglish version of Impossible. When the results came through, Camren only hugged towards the end, with Camila lingering a little longer. In an interview after the semi-finals, we have Camren all wrapped up in one another. Camila’s hold is even possessive if you squint (watch the interview and you’ll see). And Lauren seems to be comfortable with it. In another interview, they’re still hugging and glued to each other.

In the TTT-Finals, we had the infamous “They call her Mila, I call her Camz”, lots of hugging, and Lauren holding hands with Camila and rubbing her hand with her thumb. No interaction on their replay of Anything Could Happen, their cover of Give Your Heart a Break featuring Demi, Let It Be, and the Christmas song. Nothing really major happened until we saw Lauren go jealous live when the show presented the flashback of 5H’s season (2:42). Talking to Chelsea, Lauren did say that she couldn’t be happier and then winked at Camila.

In an interview after the finals, Camila and Lauren were sitting next to one another and Camila even played with L’s hair. In a Christmas interview, Camila pretends she was going to kiss Lauren, making her flinch back a little.

All in all, I think Camren were really good friends in the beginning until something happened in the Finalists’ Party that made them go further. They became more affectionate towards each other, especially Camila, but it cooled down some time later for unknown reasons. This matches the on and off sentiments we have on “Who Are You”.

Further references: https://camren-timeline.tumblr.com/post/179218327152/the-meet-cute

https://camren-timeline.tumblr.com/post/179225022057/bootcamp

https://camren-timeline.tumblr.com/post/179294904937/camzzi

https://camren-timeline.tumblr.com/post/179349432112/camilas-celebrity-crush-is-lauren

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2sjkUK9OA0rIUs8UTvUsBiG8K-DPk3Va

karlaswine

Camren Timeline - pt 0

I’ll try to be as clear as possible here since there is much to be talked about. Remember: this is my opinion, it may not reflect on the reality of things. We’ll have different parts so you won’t have to read a post comparable to the Bible in size.

PRE-TIMELINE

I felt like I should include this item because it may help with things down the road, particularly in Lauren’s case. There’s that video of the unicorn in love with the dragon. Most people think Lauren was addressing her sexuality earlier on even when Camila wasn’t in the figure. However, other reblogs point out that she wasn’t aware of her attraction to women. Lauren might’ve been talking about something else or maybe she was joking. We’ll never know.

Oh, and she used to study in a Catholic school.

In her earlier reblogs, Lauren talked about how she had her first kiss at 14 with her eighth grade boyfriend in a party. When an anon tried to slutshame her, Lauren said this:

I believe that your virginity is a gift that should only be shared with someone that you truly love and who truly loves you. I haven’t found that person yet, as much as I would love to be lucky enough to have someone in my life like that some day.

Back in the day, Lauren believed she was exclusively attracted to guys (x x), although it seemed like she was open and tolerant to other sexualities. The closest she came to hinting at her bisexuality was this:

Well my personal preference is boys lol but I do love people

Lauren also had a boyfriend at 15: Paul Martinez. Her break up with him was a bad one and it was stupid. Her words while giving advice to a fan:

I went through an extremely bad breakup once and I felt exactly like you do right now..it’s extremely hard and it really doesn’t get any easier for a while but I promise you the pain will go away eventually..you just have to remind yourself that you’re worth so much more than that..you’re a beautiful person inside and out and no man should ever make you feel otherwise

As of Camila, we don’t have that much info. In several interviews, she claimed to have not kissed anyone. That was definitely used for narrative purposes, but I don’t think they’d make Camila lie so early in the game. Maybe Camila already knew she didn’t like boys or maybe she hadn’t felt any kind of physical attraction yet.

All in all, we have a Lauren who’s clearly not aware of her attraction to women and a Camila who’s most likely inexperienced in the dating aspect.

Part 1 (2012)…

emisonme

Easy........................

Camila, about Easy said, “I wrote this song about the kind of love that makes you love yourself more …”. Now you know why her and Lauren have been all about self love, lately.

She went on to say, “ I think before you open up to someone you always feel scared that once they see all the stuff you don’t like about yourself , all the things you’re insecure about, that they won’t like you anymore- and when someone sees those things and loves you not only in spite of them, but because of them, it makes you feel truly seen for who you are , and loved for who you are too.”

I’m pretty sure we can all relate to that. We all have our own issues and insecurities. We all have things about ourselves we don’t like. We all have our “flaws”. The trick to life, isn’t finding someone to love you, in spite of your flaws. The trick to life, is learning to love yourself, in spite of your own preconceived flaws. Once you learn to love yourself, it’s a lot easier to realize, others can love you, as well, flaws and all.

Sometimes, you get lucky enough in life, to find someone that has the same preconceived flaws about themselves, they don’t like, and in your desire to get them to see themselves through your eyes, it helps you see yourself through their eyes, as well. That’s a true blessing.

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emisonme

Bad Kind Of Butterflies...........

I will admit, upon first listen I thought this song was about something else entirely. No, I never thought it was about the PR’s or “cheating”. I know that’s what we are supposed to think, but it just really never crossed my mind.

When I first heard it, my initial thought, was she was coming out to her parents. To be honest, that still works with the song as a whole, but there was one part that kept making me unsure about that thought. The bridge just didn’t make sense to me, with her coming out to her parents.

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flamingamer

sorry to upset you guys, please don’t be worried. Lauren and I were just having a little fun that’s all and we didn’t mean to scare or excite everyone so much. we thought that nobody would see the posts but I guess we underestimated the power of our lovely Harmonizers. yes, it is true we have fallen in love but we can’t be together due to certain restrictions; right now we are just focusing on making music and being the best that we can for you all. anyways, I hope this explains what was going on, but it would be best if you guys could all just forget about this. thanks so much Harmonizers you guys are great fans and I love you all. this might get deleted but if you do see it, please let everyone know not to worry and that we are both very happy :)

entrappingdreams-blog

Okay I’m so confused…

into-control

two of my favourite lines

(also she’s subtly flipping us off in the first gif lmao)

————

lmaoooo

pr-ay-the-gay-away

Camila's like "Here's your new music, you ungrateful fuckers"

dancinginyoursilhouette

camila is so fucking beautiful. her whole personality and vibe is just fucking jewl and i cant believe that people seriously think she’s a genuine bad person. whether it be music wise or just in general. she’s sO beautiful and just so real and herself. Lauren and Camila are some of the most inspiring and beautiful women in this shitty world it really brings a bit of hope that there still are beautiful people out there, you’ve just got to fight to find them.

legalmargamind

Lauren: "I'll be damned in the morning At least that is what they say I'm a sinner, yes, a prisoner To the kiss of a burning flame..." Camila: "A secret... burning under your tongue..." OMG??!! Ummm coincidence? It’s merch!!! 🌹🌹

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA they sin for each other. 😉 Funny how my blog’s all about sins too. 🤣

See... ya’ll Camila and Lauren were secretive, Shawn is juz all over the place.. hence, that song is def not about Shawn. Guess who it is about? The sinner. 😉

whoseekswillfind

CC2 is coming

Camila has written a beautiful poem

What do I know about love?

Nothing.

Where does the love go when it runs out?

When does it leave?

Why does it die?

Do you kill it in one violent blow?

Or is it a million unattended, unheated little cuts and scratches?

What do I know about love?

Everything.

It creeps into my chest uninvited and untamable.

I know love has no mercy on anyone: rich, poor, independent, codependent, confident, insecure.

It will bring you to your knees.

If you did it right.

What I know for sure about love is that you never come out of it the same.

The other person is a chemical and I am a chemical and we both will come out as different people than when we met.

I know when you're in love kissing is everything.

Because words aren't the only way to tell someone how you feel.

I know when you fall in love, you feel like you're the first and only two people in the world.

Every kiss, every touch, every caress is like something you feel nobody has ever felt before.

And you think - has everybody that's fallen in love before just walked around this nonchalantly the whole time?

You're at a restaurant with your friends and you can feel it, the secret under your tongue.

Burning like fire, but sweet and it creeps up to your cheeks and makes you smile and suddenly you look down and see your heart's veins reaching, reaching, clinging to someone else's heart.

I've learned a lot about love in my 20's, but not enough to maintain control in the face of it's power and for every new thing I learned, there was something else I couldn't understand.

All I know is love changes you, if you're lucky, to something better.

What I know for sure is falling in love with life itself makes an artist out of everyone.

I thought I was making art before.

Writing songs was me making are, but now I want my life to be the work of art.

And my songwriting to be the camera that I take a picture of it with.

It's what I'm living.

That's the art.

What do I know about love?

Maybe nothing.

And that's why it's everything.

- Camila Cabello

pr-ay-the-gay-away

OKAI CAMILA I AM HYPE BRING US CC2 🔥🔥🔥

I am also ded

existindo1800

TRADUCAO DO QUE A CAMILA DIZ NO VIDEO:

o que eu sei sobre o amor? nada

quando sai, por que morre?

você o mata com um golpe violento ou é um milhão de pequenos cortes e arranhões não curados e sem assistência?

o que eu sei sobre o amor, tudo

rasteja no meu peito, sem ser convidado e insustentável

Eu sei que o amor não tem piedade de ninguém, rico, pobre, independente, co-dependente, confiante, inseguro

vai te deixar de joelhos, se você fez certo

O que sei com certeza sobre o amor é que você nunca sai da mesma

a outra pessoa é uma substância química e eu sou uma substância química e nós dois vamos sair como pessoas diferentes do que quando nos conhecemos

Eu sei que quando você está apaixonado, beijar é tudo, porque as palavras não são a única maneira de dizer a alguém como você se apaixonou

Eu sei que quando você se apaixona, você se apaixona como se você fosse a primeira e única duas pessoas no mundo, todo beijo, todo toque, toda carícia ... é como algo que você sente e que já caiu antes e você tem todo mundo Apaixonei-me antes de andar por aí com indiferença o tempo todo?

você está em um restaurante com seus amigos e pode entender, o segredo debaixo da sua língua queima como fogo, mas é doce e se arrasta até suas bochechas e faz você sorrir e de repente você olha para baixo e vê as veias do seu coração alcançando, alcançando, agarrado ao coração de outra pessoa

Eu aprendi muito sobre o amor nos meus 20 anos, mas não o suficiente para manter o controle diante de seu poder e para cada coisa nova que aprendi, havia algo mais que eu não conseguia entender, tudo o que sei é que o amor muda você, se você tem sorte, para algo melhor

o que eu sei com certeza está se apaixonando pela vida, ela mesma faz de todos um artista

Eu pensei que estava fazendo arte antes, escrevendo músicas era eu fazendo arte, agora quero que minha vida seja uma obra de arte e que minha composição seja a câmera com a qual tiro uma foto

é o que estou vivendo que é a arte

o que eu sei sobre o amor

kiwimidnight

Seven feet. You told her… the wave was seven feet.

funnymemes-and-kinkydreams

Go get em ya funky feisty bisexuals

putafullofcaca

Lolo lowkey dropping hints 👀😂

emisonme

I love reading your blog. You look to have smarts in ways the industry works. I would like to know how you would do things. If you were Camilas manager and she wanted to come out, how would you direct the plan? Thank you in advance.

Thank you! I’m happy you like it.

Oh Lord! How would I manage Camila’s public coming out process? Well, if I was her manager, first thing I would have to do, is discuss with her, the consequences of doing so, and what each consequence would be. I wouldn’t advise her against it, but I would give her options that best served her career.

I would advise her, the consequences of coming out as gay, would be pretty drastic. If she was still looking to do celebrity endorsements, and Brand campaigns, coming out as gay would be ill-advised.

Coming out as Bi, or Pan would be better for her, if she wanted to put a public label on herself. As her manager, I would actually advise her, not to put a public label on herself. When you label yourself, you automatically get put in a box. A celebrity should not put themselves in a box.

As her “manager”, I would tell her, her best option would be to tell people she isn’t one for labels, that sexuality is fluid, and she doesn’t see gender, she connects with a persons soul. I know the LGBTQ+ Community don’t really appreciate that explanation, but for a celebrity who’s career depends on the public, it really is the best option.

The next question; stunt, or not to stunt? Stunting is not always the best route to take. It would depend on what was happening with her career at that particular moment. Situations and circumstances pretty much dictate every decision made in the Music Industry. If she wanted to come out this year, as her “manager”, I would advise against a stunt. It isn’t needed.

If she needed to make a “splash”, knowing she likes to keep her private life private, it would be in her personal best interest, to “come out” in an interview. I would set an interview up, and have the interviewer mention the public twitter interaction between herself and Ariana. I would have Camila say, “she is my twitter wife. I love her.” Then have the interviewer play off that, with something like, “you know, saying that doesn’t help with all the gay rumors you have. Does that bother you, the gay rumors?”

Camila: “Why would it. Being attracted to the same sex isn’t bad or wrong. Being gay, bi, trans, queer, pan, or anything else, isn’t some dreaded disease. I’m not attracted to a persons gender. I’m attracted to the person. I’ve dated both men and women, so no, it doesn’t bother me.” Like I said, if there was to be follow ups about specific labels, I would have her say, “I’d prefer not to stamp a label on my forehead, and be stuck in a labeled box for the rest of my career. For me, sexuality is fluid. Love isn’t something that can be regulated by elected officials or religious zealots. As long as the feelings are mutual and age appropriate, it’s no one elses business who I, or anyone else falls in love with.”

The real question is, would I use Camren to get Camila out of the glass closet? The answer is, no I wouldn’t. I would only do so, if Camila told me her and Lauren had discussed it, and was ready to confirm “Camren is real”, and I’d only do it, if Camila was ready to say fuck it, and stamp herself with a Gay label. That way, I wouldn’t be forced to have to set her up with PR men, directly following.

Due to Industry standards, I wouldn’t want to use them as PR to get Camila out, then have to turn around, set her up with the nearest available dick, and have to make up some damn excuse why her and Lauren weren’t together, and are just “friends”.

Actually, if I was Roger, I would refuse to use her sexuality to “make a splash”. The biggest “splash” I would have her make, would be the interview depicted above. I would rather her just make a simple SM announcement. I would break this ridiculous PR relationship up, bring the ridiculous feud, to a complete end, and in the month of June, I would have her put on Instagram and Twitter a simple message…

“As a proud member of the LBGTQ+ Community, HAPPY PRIDE!!! Love Only. #Love is Love”

That in itself, would make a splash. No labels. No questions. Just the simple honest truth. I would let Camila be Camila, and let the chips fall where they may. It would be my JOB, as her manager, to find her sponsors and endorsements, that are friendly to the LGBTQ+ Community. As her manager, the only thing I would insist on, was NOT labeling herself. That would make my job much easier in finding those sponsors and endorsements.

If I was Camila’s manager, that’s how I would handle her coming out process. Of course, I’m not a manager, so what do I know.