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[serenthelioness]

Baddie- I Don’t Think You Know What That Means

Definition: slang for a confident, stylish, and attractive person. Also can mean the villain in a situation.

Baddie does not mean someone who isn’t aesthetically offensive, nor is it someone who is basically attractive. Baddie is also an aura. This word is getting thrown around a bit too freely.

FM4 is not a baddie on any sliding scale. While not a troll, she is far from baddie status.

I suppose I was influenced by my age, by I share with you some past and present baddies…there are many more so feel free to share your own. Edited to add in Ksenia -definitive BADDIE

Now how did you get in here….

[holls24]

Alllllllllllll theeeeeeese daaaaaaaaaaaates

and there’s still doom in our inboxes?

If you’re still worried, you’re not paying attention.

[this-daydream-is-dangerous-13]

I keep saying this but they are walking around in the Toronto equivalent of mid-town Manhattan (which is also mixed with Wall Street).

They are not trying to be discrete. If they were, and they wanted their dates to be secret, they would not be doing them *in this area.*

They are fine with being seen. And hooray for us that they are.

[waitingforsomething3]

I am so glad these last two weeks taught us that Hudson, does in fact have the ability to:

Walk side by side with someone

Have 1 on 1 conversations

Make eye contact

Not be on his phone

Walk for hours

SMILE

Look sickeningly fond of someone

Go on multiple dates

He’s just unable to do so in Vancouver. For no reason at all, I think it must be the weather.

[holls24]

ngl, the “hudcon won’t date yet because it’ll make filming harder” theory is low key funny, cause.. Are we thinking of the same two people?

Two of the most stubborn individuals in this world… both very ambitious, focused and already doting on each other like a married pair, attempting to fuse together every time their paths cross at this point. And everything we’ve seen this past month has been them holding back.

nobody is telling these two fools what to do behind closed doors, y’all. filming or no filming!

[afro-star]

The Jig Is Up

After last Sunday when Hudcon was papped on a gym Day, we haven't gotten any pictures like that of them together since from Sean the Pap. Just the fan photos that popped up during the week, confirming the fan encounters where they said Hudcon were still together and neither had left, i.e. them at Union Station on Wednesday, and again walking on Friday evening.

We have however seen pap pics of Connor by himself in his favorite holy t-shirt, phone in hand, with a bag of takeout, and of course his headphones on. We also saw Hudson smoking and chatting with a woman, some have identified as someone he worked with on the set of Apparatus. Today there are several more pictures of a different day with him hanging out with her again, with his phone out, chilling in a park, and apparently shopping.

Now, why am I mentioning phones and headphones? When Hudcon has been spotted together Connor sometimes has had his headphones but is not wearing them actively, he simply has them, he is actively engaged with Hudson the entire time. Neither has been seen with their phones out while together, except for one video where Connor looks even hesitant to bring it out. Again, because they are completely engaged with each other in conversation.

Now onto the framing of this. Both times Hudson has been out with this woman, some outlets have been quick to emphasize that Hudson is out with a "female" friend. A couple of things, notice you don't see any H/K stans screeching and upset about media outlets emphasizing Hudson spending time with a woman that isn't K 🙃. Almost as if they only have a problem when Hudson is with one person in particular right? But also, it shows the disconnect between how the media thinks it can still spin narratives. The jig is up. It's like in Bring It On when Kirsten Dunst's team still tries to do their stolen cheers at a game, but Gabrielle Union's team from whom the cheers were stolen, shows up to emphasize the cheers are theirs and then even improvised on the spot to further prove that point.

A media narrative that wants you to remember that Hudson can be seen with a woman (as if his whole team isn't women🙄), thereby trying to remind you of his alleged "straightness" cannot compete with the domestic comfort and joy of Hudcon in Toronto. Already the quote tweets of these pictures are full of commentary that Hudson was on the phone with Connor, that he was bringing groceries back to Connor. Similar to people saying Connor was on the phone with Hudson when he was by himself. The narrative that has been established by Hudcon themselves, which is that they love to be in each other's pockets when they're together, and when they're not, they're thinking about it, is firm and it's not going anywhere. It's actually a testament to the motion and influence they have together, that no matter what other PR narrative is spun, all they have to do is be seen together to swing the conversation back to them.

This is why I still say, that the pictures from last weekend served their purpose. No matter how many times people try and dilute Hudcon and claim it isn't any different than any of their other personal relationships, we have clear comparable evidence to the contrary.

Now to be honest it doesn't matter who this woman is, people tend to assume that because we believe Hudcon is a couple that we forget they have other friendships and relationships that matter outside of each other. We know they have friends in NYC and Toronto and honestly, we know that when Hudson isn't with Connor, he's rarely by himself, there are other people. So, I don't see this as anything other than Hudson being like "Hey, Connor is on set today, do you want to hang out?" or any other plethora of possibilities that don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Again, I personally find it interesting, because of the way these images have been shared. Something I noted back when the F/C mess was at its frenzy, and now in relation to H/K, is a lot of images of Hudson and Connor when they are with other people, is framed and shared in a way to illicit a specific response. That response is usually for people to "doom" or "troll" coming up with all kinds of scenarios.

It's ultimately interesting to me because of the way the media still likes to play games with how they frame things, and it's just something that really doesn't work anymore. However, that's my opinion. I repeat my opinion. This is commentary on the media narrative of these pictures not what they actually mean or represent. If you misunderstand or interpret something different that is on you. I'm saying this because as I mentioned yesterday, I have a short fuse lately, when I'm sharing opinions and theories, not facts and people get aggy in my comments.

Alright I'm done.

[afro-star]

Saturday Morning Roundup

Good morning from my side of the world. I have a few thoughts following this past week, and some housekeeping.

They're Still Together: I said maybe 2 months ago now, that I don't try and keep up with where Hudcon is at any given time, because it's too hard 🤣. That's how I felt this week, where every time we thought one of them might have left Toronto, they popped up together again. Now we're going on 2 full weeks of them just booed up and on Staycation in Toronto. I say booed up, because although it's highly likely they could be working on HR pre-production, or Connor filming for The Bell Jar, we've seen more evidence of them just spending time together than actually doing anything work related. Also, I will get to this in a minute, but this is my interpretation of their time together, which means I don't want comments and dissertations about why you think I'm wrong and they've been working as well. I don't care. That being said, everytime I get ready to analyze or write about their time together, more info gets added. So, I might have to wait to see what else today or this weekend yields, before doing more unpacking on Hudcon's Toronto time together. We'll see.

Casting Announcements: I have not read Role Model, so I only know about Troy and Harris through reading The Long Game. I honestly can't tell you that I pictured them any specific way. I don't really care about the secondary couples outside of Hollanov, so I don't have any opinions good or bad about the casting. I'll just wait and see when Season 2 comes out to see if the casting turned out to be a good choice.

Best Friends: The first long post I did on this page was about how Hudcon are legitimate Best Friends, and that because they are, it works as a good cover for a deeper relationship, until they're ready to be more public. I have mentioned them being best friends, often and frequently. Also, as recent as a few days ago, I said that you can do all the things they have done together with your best friend, and I had myself with one of my closest friends. I literally said this a few days ago,

"Going to dinner and a movie, spending all day with a person well into the evening, going to cafes to sit and talk. Sure, you can do those things with friends, with one of my closest friends I've done most of those things."

HOWEVER, I also stated that Hudcon's behavior with each other while doing these things is what takes it from two best friends hanging out to a couple doing couple things. The heart eyes being present one of the clearer things that distinguishes their behavior.

I've said on my page before, that I know what I mean when I write things or post things, so if you skim through it and chose your own interpretation after I've made myself clear, it's a pet peeve and it will rub me the wrong way. On my post from yesterday I talked about my mom joking that Hudcon loved doing all of their walking and talking together, and that it didn't look like what you'd do with someone who was "just a friend". I know what she meant, I was sitting there when she said it, so I know her intention. Now if that doesn't translate via a post on Tumblr that's not my problem. So, when I get comments like this,

it pisses me off. Because, as I just finished explaining, I have said you can do all those things with your best friends, and with Hudcon it's different. Don't come here to make a point that doesn't need to made and especially don't come here to give "advice" or tell me how to think or what to do. I've stated many times not to do that here, and yet people never learn. Like I said it doesn't take much to annoy me, so if this is something that wouldn't bother you, I get that, but I just have a very short fuse these days.

Hudcon Is Different: I'm actually surprised by the number of people who think Hudcon is going to form the type of bond they have with each other with any of the new cast for Season 2. Hudson and Connor are charming and have chemistry with practically everyone, so it's not surprising that as they work on new projects and with new actors, they will form close friendships and bonds. However, the idea that somehow any of these bonds is going to supersede what Hudcon has makes me side eye the people asking. It's one thing to be curious about how Hudson and Connor will interact with the new cast, but it's obvious in the wording of some of these Anon Asks, that people are hoping that Hudson or Connor form a relationship with a new costar stronger than the one they have with each other, to prove that Hudcon isn't what we think it is. Not everyone is doing this of course, but as I've mentioned before solos like to lurk over here, and I'm peeping what y'all are doing.

The Threat of Domesticity: It's been extremely funny to watch (and honestly disturbing at times, I'm looking at you Club Chalamet) F/C shippers fuming with anger over Hudcon spending time together in Toronto. The other day I said this:

"I mentioned earlier there is something about the simple domesticity that has played out over a week that just draws you in. Hudson and Connor were so in sync with each other in every way possible, and it was palpable through pictures how much they are enamored with the other."

I can't explain why this is my favorite picture so far of Hudcon in Toronto. I guess I just like that outside of their new Red-Carpet celebrity lives, they're just a couple making runs to the 7-Eleven to get Gatorade and going to get Takeout for dinner and having a Tote Bag with Paper Towels sticking out 🤣. Anyway, it's just nice to see how content and happy they are to spend time living life together.

On the flip side of the C/F shippers losing it, you still have the H/K stans getting butt hurt every chance they get. The Dunce comment from the other day was on my Ambiguity post. Anytime you point out the glaring holes in the H/K narrative, simply by observing it, here they come with the same tired ass comments. Notice they never challenge what you've said. That's because they have no counterpoints or arguments to defend H/K, so they attack you for stating the obvious.

Alright, I'm done with my morning thoughts. I'm getting increasingly agitated at being misunderstood, I even censored some things in this post because I can't stand any more "Well Actually 🤓☝🏽" comments when I didn't even mean it like that. Anyway, at the rate Hudcon is going I fully expect more interesting content today or tomorrow. So as usual if something interesting pops up, I'll be back. However, this was a long week for me, so definitely time for an Intermission.

[holls24]

and i promise I’m not trying to be argumentative or anything.. but the most common line of thought I see is “they love each other, but they’re not dating.”

..when there’s nothing to prove that they aren’t.

And months of observations to suggest that they are.

Many of you will even agree that they go on “dates”, and so on. So why would they twiddle their thumbs and wait with those emotions and that tension for.. potentially.. months? The feelings are there. The chemistry is there. And that’s not digging into any smoking gun rumors, because I know many of those aren’t widely believed.

Is it the phantom? Is it the circus? Is it big hud’s comments? Is it them keeping it low key in public?

What do you need to see, to believe he’s dating the man he loves?

[misssassy56]

Oh so Friday date nights have become a staple, huh?😇

[afro-star]

Hudcon Thoughts from my Parents

My mom who has watched Heated Rivalry with me is always asking if Hudcon knew each other before the show. This is because those two have so much chemistry it's hard to believe they didn't know each other before the show. However, if you believe they were together in other lifetimes, and remember they consider themselves soulmates, then it makes sense.

I just showed her this video, and she said "Even if these two weren't actors, and they just met each other, they would be the same way. They would've still found each other some kind of way." Then she said, "They sure love all their sitting and walking together, you don't do all that with 'just a friend'." Hudcon conversations with my parents are never boring 🤣.

[holls24]

guys, I’m not posting any, “I want to believe, but I don’t think hudson will actually be able to leave her” messages.

First of all HC are the couple in this equation, but besides that…

go sit with your doom, and consider giving hudson some credit in the meantime. I understand worrying, to an extent, but a lot of you severely overestimate not only the phantom’s influence, but her ability to ever win against The Connor Plan.

What is The Connor Plan? Hudson’s own “this is the future I want with my baby” trajectory.

She’s currently standing in the way. She can’t stay there.. If she doesn’t want to move? He’ll make her move.

If somehow, god forbid, he feels bad and can’t bring himself to tell her to fuck off? Connor will make her move.

The circus was a limited time offer, from the jump.

Carry on.

[afro-star]

Ambiguity

The bare minimum is to say K is his gf. He never elaborates. There is never an opportunity that he personally takes to go further. Even when it has been presented to him in various interviews. There is never any fondness when he says gf, his demeanor and face don't change, nothing. He rarely mentions her by name, and when we see them in person, his body language is always closed off from her. He has given you the outline of a relationship but never filled it in. Filling it in would be to explain all of the things y'all have obsessed over for months (bracelets, cats, living arrangements, etc. dumb shit 🙃). The reason all you have is theories is deliberate. When this ends the conversation about her fades because there is nothing to latch onto to begin with, no stories no anecdotes, nothing. It will go from "Hudson has a gf" to "Didn't Hudson used to have a gf" to not talking about her at all. Of course, we won't give a shit over here either way. But that will likely be how she fades out of the GP's memory, out of sight out of mind. Now will there still be H/K stans and K glazers holding on for dear life, of course, look at the C/F crazies. However, the fact that we know next to nothing makes it easier for Hudson to never bring it back up again once it's formally done.

[afro-star]

2025

Something I’ve noticed is a lot of people who still doubt Hudcon being together seem to misunderstand the timelines most of us have. While we may disagree on details a lot of us believe that the beginning of their current relationship started in 2025 somewhere likely between filming of Season 1 ending and NYE in Vancouver. 2026 isn’t the “start” of anything it’s more like the finalizing of an already deeply intimate relationship that needed some fine tuning. Ironing out details was needed so that they can start planning their future more solidly. None of this is sudden. It’s been months in the making.

[sweetparagonradiance]

RIGHT PERSON. RIGHT TIME.

[afro-star]

Never

Really quick while I work on my other post let me say this. I have 3 childhood friends I have mentioned here before. We all live about 5 minutes from each other and live in the town we grew up in. In over 20 years of friendship we’ve never shared clothes or matched. Not once. I appreciate that Hudcon can be more public on their own terms under the guise of being best friends. However this past week as I’ll talk about later is exactly what it looked like. I get it but these media outlets are trying to outdo each other for who can be the cringiest describing this couple doing couple things as the besties of all time. However as others have noted there is some mixed messaging because they say best friends and then describe them in couples terms. Make it make sense 🤷🏽‍♀️😂.

[transactiontzard]

Networking as a Creative Soulmate Couple

So perhaps some Bell Jar-filming and some Russian lessons is what's up right now. Not really that pre-production of HR has started. Huddy is with Conny because he wants to be there. I’ve a feeling that they bring each other to sets and networks the shit out of it. Like: Nia de Costa: it was quite obvious that Hudson had met her pre Vanity Fair (but K had not). I'm pretty sure the card board-Connor was not the only Connor that the Yaga-team met. SNL was of course obvious since Hudson was invited to join. Gracie Abrams sent a message to Huddy on the podcast with Evan quite soon after she and Connor met at the Chanel-event (when they probably had been introduced earlier for the Please-casting.) Just a few of many such connections.

These two boys are very smart and they know that they together can be a power house in Hollywood: but perhaps not just yet out in the open.

In some comment a few days ago we discussed if their PR-people where involved when they more or less hard launched on Instagram and while no: they were not at that level then to have publicists involved at that level to create such a narrative; but we still have to remember that these to guys are both directors and storytellers. If anything: they wrote that narrative themselves. People discussing if Hudson is telling us something with his choice of songs and photo dumps: of course he is. It would be weird otherwise. A lot of Hudsons fans are unfortunately not really litterate and don't embrace his intellect and how extremely online he is/have been.

These men are very beautiful but they are so much more than their appearance. Their creative ambitions are much larger than being a pretty face on an advertisement. ( But being a pretty face in an ad or a blockbuster movie brings in money and freedom to do weird art shit: look at Robert Pattinson and Daniel Radcliffe.)

Why were they both staying on the Heated Rivalry-set when the other one was the only one filming: they are taking masterclasses in directing from Jacob! And of course really invested in their joint journey. It’s no wonder Connor got the inspiration to actually do his feature just after Heated Rivalry: he met Hudson who has filmed really cool budget less movies for years and Jacob who pulled off Heated Rivalry with a very low budget and still made it look extremely expensive.

And Hudson seems to have been so inspired with Connors acting and really studied how he masters his craft. Before they met on their little Zoom-reading these two had quite different focus even: Connor had been acting and modeling since he was a kid and have put most of his time with that: Hudson had been making movies in all sort of roles, directing, producing, writing, filming and not really only focused on acting.

I think we do them both a disservice with not acknowledging that. They have different talents and they both admire each other tremendously. And learn from each other. It’s not a competition that some fans like to make it: they will both win. Each other’s biggest fans. And together they make magic happen.

This creative inspiration and networking is so valuable to both of them

I’m a truther but sometimes I sway to their connection being something else: absolutely not just a friendship but a creative soulmate relationship that transcends who they sleep exclusively with. Their sexual attraction is palpable as well as their love for each other. But something larger, absolutely not platonic, but not necessarily just a romantic coupling in the sense that we are used to. A joining of creative souls that will make Hollywood history.

[transactiontzard]

We know today they both met with Gregg Akari. At Run N Gun Hudson mentioned meeting Luca Guadagnino that we know Connor met. Quite sure Hudson was with Connor when he met Jason Blumhouse to since we have other pictures of them together that day.

[theloonatthecottage]

one very silly thing I noticed in the photos is they both took their coffees to go but it looks like hudson finished his because connor is hold his coffee stacked on top of hud’s empty one. he’s holding it for him❤️

holy shit?? you have good eyes 😭😭😭 connor holding both of their empty drinks 😭😭😭😭😭

I AM SO HARMED PLS WHY ARE THEY LIKE THIS

[legacylegacy]

Even their cups gotta stick together 😭

[serenthelioness]

The Hollanov Gaslighting

Is anyone finding it odd to see all of these social media posts/skits using the photos of Connor and Hudson in Toronto to pretend they are Hollanov being spotted or shipped in public as having a relationship? For all of the anti-shippers and ethical RPF’ers to engage this way is ironic to me. Proclaiming constantly that Connor and Hudson shouldn’t be shipped together yet they’re using actual photos of the two actors while not in character to RPF under the guise of their on-screen couple.

It seems hilarious to me that they have found a backdoor way to express what everybody is seeing in these photos - two people who clearly seem to have much more going on than just being friends or colleagues. Yet they’re hiding behind Hollanov to make these observations while pretending it’s just a joke.

I do not call myself a Hudcon truther or shipper - I am someone who is observing what Connor and Hudson have been and continue to show about the nature of their relationship, and I make no apologies for doing that. I just find it so strange that so many people are engaging in this gaslighting behavior saying on one hand those are the actors and you shouldn’t be looking at those photos and shipping them together but then using those same photos to ship their “fictional” character couple. I find the posts funny, but I’m also side-eyeing them because they seem to not realize they are actually pointing out the actors’ real-life behavior.

Just another observation to keep in mind as more photos undoubtedly come out over the next several months to confirm that those of us who are observing Connor and Hudson are not making up what we see in their interactions. Others see it too, we’re just choosing to call out what we’re seeing rather than hiding behind the guise of their fictional counterparts.