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Cockles Panel | Burcon 2024
i was wondering if this hugging thing is a jenmish thing or maybe an american thing? i'm not from the US so i don't know the habits. 🤭 i'm also not a big hugger myself so i have no clue really. let's take yesterday's panel. they hugged in the beginning and in the end. they saw each other before the panel obviously, they had their ops together and they also saw each other the day before. plenty of time for hugs in private. one could assume they'd see each other after the panel too maybe only short, i mean they left the stage together. i don't follow J2 panels, are they doing that there too? i remember only high fives but as i said i don't follow it. so back to the beginning, i wondered if it is just their thing, an american thing or are they doing it on purpose because they know people want to see that? (i don't think it's the latter tbf) i remember an older video when jensen hopped on stage to give rob a hug and said apologetic that he didn't see him for a long time, so it could be just his thing. but in that case i think he really didn't see him for a while. so what would you say? just to be clear they should hug each other even more. 😅
So my answer is it’s kind of both. (Helpful, I know🤣)
Hugging is definitely a thing in the States. So much so that people who have an aversion to being touched go out of there way to make sure people know they don’t like being hugged (to mixed responses because many people here don’t get that done people don’t like to be hugged)
But hugging is also a BIG TIME Misha thing. Dude is a hugger. He wants to hug everyone.
I don’t think the Cockles hugs are performative at all-it’s definitely one of their ways of showing their affection. Touch seems to be a big thing for them. They touch each other a lot during panels and seem to make it a point to be touching in some way during photo ops (see Jensen’s “Misha reach.”)
Jensen doesn’t seem to be all that free with his hugs. Aside from Misha, Rob is definitely a common recipient of a Jensen hug. I can’t speak to Jensen hugging Jared as I tend to avoid those panels and ops. 🤣 I imagine there have been genuine hugs 🤷🏻♀️
I agree with you - there can never be too many Cockles hugs!
Also, cockles hug so special because Misha just melts into Jensen. When j2 hug, it's like a normal bro hug but with cockles? Jensen looks so protective of his man during them, and Misha looks like he finds comfort in them like a safe place for him.
this fucking hits like a gut-punch everytime it crosses my dash
A WRITE UP OF JIB 11 ('JIBWEEK')
I thought I’d write an account from the perspective of someone who is NOT a regular of JIB (though I apologise because I struggle to write down my thoughts/feelings effectively)
*For notes and irrelevant details
Firstly, my friend and I booked JIB11 way back in late 2019 and we got our tickets during the handover. This probably should have been our first red flag when I almost got banned, because the guy I was buying my ticket from filled out something incorrectly in the handover email and we weren’t allowed to ask what the mistake was, because that would also lead to us being banned lmao.
*JIB is the only convention where I’ve had to give them my social media @’s when ‘purchasing’ a ticket so they can monitor if you are talking badly about the convention. This rule pretty much makes everyone scared to death of going against Daniela before/during the convention, because then she can just straight up ban you on a whim.
Of course we couldn’t have predicted a global freaking pandemic so the con got postponed a good 4-5 times over the next 3 years.
Something important about the last time it was postponed, which was late 2022, is there was a ton of speculation:
1. If the event didn’t happen before July 2023 Daniela was legally obligated to refund everyone due to a certain law put in place in Italy during Covid (Events, even those paid for by ‘donations’, couldn’t be postponed any longer under the guise of ‘covid’)
2. The reason it was postponed was due to certain actors not being able to attend due to ‘filming schedules’ (Presumably Karl urban and/or Jensen)
I’m not a lawyer so I can’t tell you if Daniela had to obey that law or not (though at the time she admittedly said it did not apply to her)
And to go further about why I have added point 2. to the list, is because Daniela promised us that the date she chose in 2023 was the only date/weekend that ALL guests could attend. Jib5 also got shortened by one day because of this reason.
Keep in mind, she then went on to do another round of handovers and many people I know personally got tickets because of Karl Urban. Everything was silent until less than 2 weeks before the convention when it was announced that FOUR of the guests would be unable to attend.
LIST OF CANCELLED GUESTS: Tom Ellis, Karl Urban, Richard Speight Jr and Reeve Carney.
REPLACEMENTS: David Ramsey, Alexander Vlahos, Drake Rodger and Jojo Fleites.
Many people were upset that the replacements were not ‘well known’ Daniela went on a long rant about how other conventions wouldn’t get replacements at the last minute (Every other convention I’ve been to actually has gotten replacements or offered a refund but okay?) No Refunds were offered at this point either for photo ops or autos, only swaps.
I’d like to add that it’s most likely that Daniela knew Karl Urban, Tom Ellis, Reeve and Richard weren’t going to be attending when she chose the new 2023 date, because it’s not like actors get given their filming schedule last minute? (correct me if I’m wrong) For example Tom and Reeve were already booked for other events before their cancellations were announced.
* Another note but Daniela mass deletes/bans people on the facebook group for posting anything negative or questioning her, hence if you are looking to attend the con you won't see anything negative about it lol.
THE ACTUAL CON:
JIB is very different from the UK SPN conventions I have attended. The biggest difference is PRICE.
For me and my friend, JIB was a ‘once in a lifetime’ convention. For full transparency I will share that we both paid around €800 for angel passes and the hotel was something like €600 + flights and other expenses. Basically 2k each.
It was probably a bad sign when we turned up and were given pieces of ribbon as lanyards (even starfury in the UK sometimes offers ACTUAL lanyards, you’d think for the price we paid, especially as angel passes, that they could have included something)
*I will also admit this is not the convention's fault, but the hotel is extremely outdated IMO. Why it’s held there I don’t know, but I don’t blame the actors for not staying there anymore lol.
Like I said above, we paid for angel passes but we were good 15ish rows right at the back. At any starfury event I could have sat closer to the stage for free lmao. Not to mention there was a spotlight directly in our eyes for the entire convention during the panels/karaoke which blinded me. When posting about this on facebook I was told this would be solved by them dimming the lights, which didn’t seem to happen at all. The sound was also at full blast and put my teeth on edge every time someone spoke, my friend ended up with ringing ears. Due to these issues we ended up not attending many of the panels.
Another note, on our first night we saw Daniella walking around outside in a full designer outfit, followed by 3 people carrying designer bags to her private car. It definitely set an image of where our money actually went. (Not the mention the gucci jackets she gifted to J2M)
During autos, Jensen seemed to be in an off mood. He didn’t look up or talk to most people, including me and my friend. This kinda was our final “wow this entire convention is shit” moment. We’ve spent all that money just to be ignored. I don’t care about all the people on facebook or twitter that said we ‘built up the moment’ or ‘your expectations were too high’ (Sorry but eye contact or a hi/bye is too high?) because that’s just wrong to say. Also less than 2 weeks later at crossroads 6 we had a great interaction with Jensen for £150 lmao. Maybe having a soul-sucking homophobic woman following you around all day is just draining?
Also our one and only photo op, which was included with our pass during handover was just…. Strange. We both planned to just do a normal standing pose but the actor basically forced us to touch him up during the photo op. Now I know people go to the rome con because they allow more touchy romantic poses, but it was just weird af because we weren’t looking for that kind of interaction at all.
Not to mention there was a women dressed as the impala who had excitedly told us her plan to ask Jensen during her photo op to “ride her like baby” (if she went through with it I don’t know, but I feel bad for the man) Said women has been banned from starfury, but apparently Daniela doesn’t give a shit if crazy people like her attend the convention and harass the actors. (It’s all about the money right? Sorry ‘donations’)
The con was also not well organised, they use the excuse of "jib time" or "italian time" (meaning everything is late) Nearly all the panels started late, which just slides in ops/autos running late. We also never knew where the heck we were meant to be going or what room we were meant to be in, there wasn't any clear signs. Again, for the price we paid.... This isn't going great.
Also most of the security and workers were personal friends/family of Daniela. The money just seems to be being funneled back towards her or people she deems worthy to hang out with her.
This all happened almost a month ago and this is just kinda a vent post, but if you are thinking about going to a JIB con I'd discourage it.
No offense, but the regulars of JIB seemed to largely be people putting themselves into debt to be there, I overheard so many people talking about maxing out their credit cards, not only to be there but to attend to the next event and to get touchy photo ops with the actors. The entire con is just taking advantage of maybe some people who, are perhaps, not in the best state of mind. (ofc this isn't everyone who attends, but it seems to be their main audience)
There's so many other things I could add, but I feel the list is long enough and I think I'll already get alot of backlash so I'll leave it as this.
people were so unwilling to believe that Jensen was pro-destiel that they believed a random professional translator was sooooo invested in Dean's reciprocation that they invented and added a whole fucking line that changes the entire scene 🙄
@ironworked right?! you don't even need to know about the Brazil leak to see this logic lol.
(for anyone unaware there was literally a leak from when they were making the Brazil version that said there was a "me too" line, BEFORE ANY OF THIS HAPPENED. You tell me what are the fucking odds that someone in Brazil saw the line and then someone ELSE in another country "added" that same line by coincidence. I mean come the fuck on)
I’ve seen the birds chirping “me too” video before they were all struck down… Dean was on the floor after Cas was gone and said it to an empty room.
destiel or cockles? yes
misha from the spn gag reel in his first ever scene 🥺
Destiel
Favourite JenMish/Cockles pics
Yes please and thank you.
I will always be feral about these obviously being in a photo album:
And this one:
Practically saying “guess what we did before and after this picture was taken?”
But this one, having been taken just THIS YEAR at JIB ends me:
Bonus Misha fawning over Jensen at the upfronts in 2022:
And Jackles eyefucking Misha from afar at JIB this year:
Am I wrong?
One of the things that cracks me up about this entire encounter is how many Jared fans sent the link to me in an effort to show me that Jensen liked Jared better because he talked to Jared first...completely missing Jensen's body language and RBF.
Supernatural: Dean is in heaven, a better place. He gets to drive around for forty years waiting for Sam to show! Isn't that great? Perfect ending for him! 😊
Dean, the very moment people took their eyes off him:
The way jenmish has done it again 😏💚💙.
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