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"When you know what a tear is, you'll feel the pain."
青蛇 Green Snake (1993) dir. Tsui Hark
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as a fellow fan who can also see that mj was a pedophile, thanks for your posts. don't let the conspiracy theorists get you down!
Thanks, i know we are not alone, but it can be hard to be heard among all the fan/estate propaganda and bots.
His power on people is very strong, but once you see reality, you can't unsee it. I just finished watching last night the entire 4h of Leaving Neverland, and it really helped me better understand how he was able to groom entire families. His skills seem already perfected there and it makes you wonder how many other kids came before Wade and James, it's terrifying.
the fact your dumbass it putting your coke rants in the mj tag is insane you think we'd support this man if he was a pedo? the fact you think this man is guilty in big 2026 is embarassing as fuck i suggest you get your ass off this app and do some freakin research because these so called "receipts" arent even true. i almost feel bad that your mom had to carry you for 9 months and you came out this dumb
Woah, you are very emotional. You need to touch grass. Why are yall always hiding behind anonymity if you are so confident in your beliefs?
No i think you are the one being mistaken if you are still believing his innocence in 2026 after all that has come out. I can understand being confused in 1993, but a lot more has been revealed since then. You think I'm misinformed? I use to be a fan as i stated (i still love his art though) i already know all the "facts" your side provided, but many of them are untrue or irrelevant. My point is about confirmation bias. I dare to search info outside of what the fandom allowed and it changed my mind. If you really think the entire world (witnesses, victims, medias and investigation officers) is lying, that only he say the "truth", that this rich man is a victim of multiple poor families, that a grown man sleeping repeatedly with children and owning NAMBLA books of undress boys, is all perfectly fine, i think you are delusional and I don't trust your judgment about children safeguarding. You are being biased by his charisma and your love for his art. Think about why you prefer to ignore things that are a right in front of you. You think I'm happy to realize that the man i once idolized is not who i think he was and you think that i have fun doing this? Now that i saw the light, everything make sense and I'm at peace, i don't have to feel bad for him anymore, but i regret ignoring the victims for so long.
Please give me a good reason as to why Michael was seen with young boys more than grown women. Parading them around taking them on tours, award shows, and to other counties. Like it was a date. There’s more photos of him with random children than with females. But rarely with a woman unless it was a PR relationship, staged music video or just a random paparazzi outing. He even said on tape he hates the video with Naomi- how is that a normal reaction to a supermodel? And there’s a a photo of him with his hand on a kids bare thigh. He also called child marriage inIndia sometime he was a “amazed by” in a magazine interview. His own words. And dated Tatum o Neil at 15 and he was 20-21. How is this normal to you all? And kept a money as a pet! Just to dress it up and get rid of it when it was too big. And self admitted to hitting it for discipline.
Exactly, he was seen alone with unrelated boys many times, even shopping for wedding rings with one of them (and he got almost arrested that day).
I can understand him wanting to help "make a wish" kids like Ryan White, but the others were very healthy...
I'm not too knowledgeable about his early "pre- off the wall" dates, but i know he was lonely and depressed and trying to befriend other child stars, but yeah it's possible he was problematic toward them.
I'm not supporting owning exotic animals, i can't really know his intentions toward them, and it's understandable he would get rid of Bubbles because chimps get violent as they age, but he should have learned from this and not get any other chimp. So clearly he was selfish. He also rided his elephant...
I give MJ stans receipts, but instead of trying to understand they block me. I've been trying to have respectful conversations but they don't listen, even coming from an ex-fan like me. And like I'm doing this for their own good, because i was there and it made me mentally unwell. I don't really feel the need to trash MJ because the facts are already out there, but i still have to mention him and expose a bit of it. But any mention of him will make them be very defensive so it's hard to reach their soul. It's sad how people prefer comfortable lies over hard truths, most of them will remain in their echo chamber/cult even as more evidence is coming out. There could be an obvious photo of him m0lest1ng a child and they still would defend it.
See there are many conversations under my post, but right after i bring the hard questions, they block me. I can't read our conversation anymore (i wish i could still see my comments at least lol).
I give MJ stans receipts, but instead of trying to understand they block me. I've been trying to have respectful conversations but they don't listen, even coming from an ex-fan like me. And like I'm doing this for their own good, because i was there and it made me mentally unwell. I don't really feel the need to trash MJ because the facts are already out there, but i still have to mention him and expose a bit of it. But any mention of him will make them be very defensive so it's hard to reach their soul. It's sad how people prefer comfortable lies over hard truths, most of them will remain in their echo chamber/cult even as more evidence is coming out. There could be an obvious photo of him m0lest1ng a child and they still would defend it.
lmao please keep that utter BULLSHIT out of the MJ tag. Keep your insane thoughts to yourself.
You are not confident enough to expose your real username? The reason I'm using the tag is to have these conversations. You guys need to see the light and to touch grass, he is not Jesus.
I was once a fan, i know him and everything he said and did that was documented. Yet as I matured and re-examined the facts with my adult eyes, I started having questions and seeing that things weren't right. The echo chamber isn't telling you everything, they are editing and altering facts to make it fit to their story. How do you explain Omer getting his tattoo removed, enh? I kept wondering why Frank liked Paris' post, and reading that article that Paris is talking with them and understanding what her dad did truly lit a bell in my head. Now everything make sense.
Who is more insane? Who is doing mental gymnastics to excuse pedo behaviors. You people don't even have real argument anymore. Why do you guys never look at the other side, do real research outside of fandom's thread. Have you watch Wade and James's podcasts, they are really just honest people trying to deal with their trauma. Don't you have questions about him, like why he always answer questions in such unclear way, he could have just say "no i don't sleep with boys", but he never denied it. Why does he fit the profil of a "fixated" pedo to a T?
Aren't you scared that more and more people are coming out and turning against him, don't you see your world slowly crumbling down? There is a way out. You don't have to put your head in the sand even further. When I was a fan, I kept being depressed and sad thinking that the world was unjust and everyone was lying and only he was innocent and good. Now I can finally turn the page and be at peace.
I'm here to talk if anyone is ready, with respect and without judgment. You don't have to go through it alone. Maybe you still have doubts and is scared to let it go, or you feel ashamed, but it's normal, it takes a lot of courage to surpass years of denial and cognitive dissonance. After you healed, the way you wish the see his music is your choice, some are able to compartimalize and separate the two, some can't.
Important Notice To MJ Fans
Now that I have gained your attention and trust, listen carefully to what I have to say. And please, you have to listen carefully before reacting defensively or in a self-preserving manner (and please don't block me, it's better to talk). And I know that it's hard when you have build your entire identity over something, to realize you've been living a lie all this time. You are not stupid, intelligence offers no protection against emotional control. I don't judge you for grasping to it, but I'm saying this for your well being, it's better to let things go and form your own identity and find healthier hobbies.
Michael Jackson is not the man you think he is. He was likely very intelligent, and a master of manipulation, very good at pretending to be the victim. Everyone who knew him have all been jumping ship now. You can't simply discredit everyone and only believe in his words, you are under his spells, in an echo chamber. Lisa Marie Presley, the woman who got the closest to him, exposed his controlling and manipulative behaviors. The kid that all fans "trusted", Omer Bhatti, removed his MJ tattoo, Macaulay Culkin is nowhere to be seen. Paris, his own daughter, is reported to be collaborating with the accusers. At some point you have to face the facts and the big picture. It will only get worse as new things are revealed and as more people stop being scared of the NDAs and The Estate.
I'm not ignoring the fact that MJ had a damaging childhood that made him who he is, in all it's complexities, but what he did as an adult can't be excused. This is a sad fact that abused kids will often become abusers themselves. It's true that his mental development was affected and kept him in a childlike state, but he still physically matured and got sexual impulses.
"But he looks so kind, look at his eyes, they look so pure"
Yes, this is often the case with guru and cult leaders. They are very charismatic, have a calming voice, a transcending gaze, a strong aura, and a great capacity to create emotional attachment. Plus they will always remain enigmatic by giving unclear answers, and they will always remain in your mind as you question things and hold emotions for them. MJ was a prodigy in many ways, but he also studied hard. I'm sure fans remember seeing some of the books he read like The 48 Laws of Power (based on Machiavellian principles). He studied emotions, and how to tune them like an instrument. He created an illusion so emotionally satisfying that fans have been doing anything to defend it, even against damning evidence. How many times did he say he was a messenger of god (in a more or less subtle way)? How many times did he told you to ignore the "lies" and the media? It's likely that his days as a Jehova Witness also inspired him to be a cult leader himself.
"But he did so many charitable work, it can't be"
Yes I think he genuinely wanted to help others sometimes, but because of cPTSD from his childhood, it was easy for him to dissociate and to compartmentalize his actions to feed his unmet needs and desires.
"But the FBI found no child porn at his house!"
It doesn't matter, because there are many types of pedophiles. Michael Jackson was a "fixated" pedophile, and this type rarely collect child pornography. They focus on building a relationship or emotional connection with a child. Still, they may collect legal art books and photography of children (which is the case for Jackson). Fixated pedophiles often appear childlike themselves and live child centered lifestyle. His own biological children may not have been prayed upon, since this type of pedo rarely target their own family. This is likely why his children saw him as a good father (until now at least).
You have to come to the realization that you have been cherry-picking a lot. All that you've know about him is simply what he wanted you to believe. Everything has been hiding in plain sight all along.
Any group who ask you to ignore opposing views and to stop asking questions, are a cult. The fandom have asked of you to reject everyone who have spoken bad about him, even minor comments, and now there is no one left except his own voice. They said "don't believe this maid, she has stolen from him before, she just want money". "Don't believe his sister!", his own sister who knew him better than anyone else...
"But Jordan Chandler refused to testify, and Wade changed his story!"
Michael Jackson often targeted boys who were fans of him, so the grooming was easy. The boy would happily spend time with him and accept anything, and the boy would not want to admit anything to harm his idol or their relationship. Do you realize that MJ would have probably ended up in jail if Wade Robson had admitted to be molested at the 2005 trial? It's very common for groomed kid to stay loyal for years even after becoming an adult, him changing his story after his abuser's death is pretty normal.
Honestly, I could go on and on demystifying every argument, but I won't unless asked about it. I've been on the fence about him for years because the first trials were pretty confusing, and when in doubt we prefer to believe what make us feel better. With the movie being released I thought it would be good to try to reach the remaining fans and understand their feelings. And I'm telling you, you are going to feel better once you remove this weight off you. Once you realize the truth, everything will fall into place and you will stop hurting for him and about how the world "mistreated" him. The constant doubts and questions keeping you awake at night will disappear. At last, we can heal together and support the real victims and his own children who now have to live with a terrible reality.
Let me help you get rid of your addiction.
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Let it Be - Jackson 5 (cover)
Michelle Yeoh in Moonlight Express 星月童话 · 1999
I'm still thinking about this. Like once in a while i just remember that she has the most insane facecard. So now we must remember together.
Cynthia Rothrock - The Blonde Fury / Lady Reporter (1989)
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