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Not Meant To Lose (Masterpost)

This is never meant to happen. They were supposed to save Leo. They were supposed to be home, not in this universe where things seems to be familiar yet so different. And yet it did.

This is a TMNT 2007 x 2012 crossover!

Prologue [Finished]

Chapter 1 [Not Beta]

Chapter 2 [Draft]

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keyframe n. a moment that seemed innocuous at the time but ended up marking a diversion into a strange new era of your life—set in motion not by a series of jolting epiphanies but by tiny imperceptible differences between one ordinary day and the next, until entire years of your memory can be compressed into a handful of indelible images—which prevents you from rewinding the past, but allows you to move forward without endless buffering

“—And then Usagi-san threw him off the bridge! It was bogus!” A boyish voice dramatically informed the alligator mutant about his latest adventure over a tablet.

The boyish voice talking over the tablet is Michelangelo Hamato, Leatherhead’s best friend. Let it be known that the Hamatos’ and the Mutanimals decided a tablet is more suitable for Slash and Leatherhead as a gadget of communication. The two giant mutants won’t have to mind their strength or how small apps or texts are. 

Leatherhead let out a hum, “Didn’t Usagi say this Jade is immortal?” 

“Jei,” The orange-clad turtle corrected, “And he did! Maybe Usagi-san got his info wrong or Jei just bluff, or he just gets rebirth kind of immortality,” Michelangelo theorized.

“From your hectic adventure, I’m glad you returned safely, my friend,” The older mutant honestly thought the worst when the turtles were gone without notice. For some enemy managing to kidnap his friends without struggle…

Through the screen, Michelangelo winced, “Sorry, but couldn’t really do much when we’re spiritually summoned to another dimension by a blind fake immortal wolf,” The nun-chuck wielder joked weakly.

“Just how long were we gone?” Michelangelo asked quietly,  “Cuz, I didn’t have to check when I have an awesome story to tell my two besties!” The turtle cheerfully added. At the edge of the screen, you can see a yellow bowl and can hear a faint meow.

A small smile formed on Leatherhead but inwardly he was frowning as well. His friend, in true ninja form, is great at misdirection. “Almost a week, my friend”.

The smallest mutant turtle's eyes widen, “Really? It was like—three days for us,” Michelangelo compared with a faraway look.

Leatherhead pressed his teeth together, to anyone who doesn’t know the mutant, they would say he’s restraining himself from eating something, but his expression is equivalent to a human pressing their lips together, a sign of displeasure. The alligator was about to change the topic, as he didn’t like the faraway look on Michelangelo’s normally bright face, but someone beat him to the punch. 

“Mikey! I need your help!” Donatello called out, snapping Michelangelo’s trance.

“Coming Dee! Sorry Leatherhead, I’ll talk to you later,” The turtle apologized, as he moved the screen to a mutant ice cream cat, “Talk with Ice Cream Kitty! You guys haven’t talked since forever!”

“…”

“… How’s the freezer?” Leatherhead awkwardly questioned.

“Meowr~”

“You’re right, that’s an awful ice breaker to start a conversation,” Leatherhead apologized.

“Meow~”

“What? I didn’t pun.”

“Meeeow~”

“Oh… I didn’t realize,”

“Meoow~” The ice cream mutant titled her head a little, “Meow?”

“I’m afraid I don’t.”

“Meow!”

“When?”

“Meow~”

“That—”

“INTRUDERS!” A blue blur passed Leatherhead and leapt over the railings.

“Ice Cream Kitty, we’ll continue this later,” Leatherhead said goodbye to the cold mutant and ended the call. 

Following the Salamandrian example, Leatherhead leapt over the railing as he saw three humans fighting Mona Lisa, Mondo Gecko, and Pigeon Pete.

“Pete!” The Leopard Gecko shouted in distress, as the human with a skull mask batted the Pigeon into a metal pillar.

Leatherhead roared as he tried to charge the masked human. But a red-haired human threw a smoke pellet at him. If Leatherhead was more clear-headed, he wouldn’t have attacked the red-haired human or the masked human, for they particularly looked like April O’Neil and Casey Jones. [1] It is fortunate that Leatherhead has a third eyelid or else he would’ve been so focused on regaining his vision than blocking a stab aimed at his underbelly.  

“Mondo! Take the light out!” The only non-mutant in the Mutanimals ordered the mutant gecko.

“‘right!” The youngest mutant in the group cheekily saluted and proceeded to smash the control panel with his skateboard.

Leatherhead would’ve complimented Mona Lisa’s quick thinking of turning lights off [2] if he wasn’t busy trying to defend himself. The large mutant isn’t used on the defensive side of fighting, but his opponent is relentlessly attacking him. 

But considering his redhead opponent switched with a black-haired human, that was fighting Mona Lisa. Leatherhead can see why this human hadn’t been knocked out by Mona Lisa, who is the only trained warrior in the Mutanimals with the exception of Slash.

CREEEAAAK

“What is going on!” A human-turned-monkey loudly demands. Beside the Monkey is a large snapping turtle with spikes and wearing a black bandana, carrying groceries. 

“O’Neil! Jones! Opening!” The black-haired human pointed at the open garage door.

Wait. What? Did Leatherhead hear that right?

“Oh no one is leaving–” Rockwell interrupted with monkey noise, “–without giving me some answers!” [3] The former human telekinetically lifted the three human intruders into the air, and then glared at us. (Mona Lisa, Leatherhead, and Mondo Gecko)

“You can’t destroy the control panel to do the Lights off plan!” The scientist hissed angrily.

“Yeah, but I thought about how they can turn it on, so def need to destroy the panel, doc,” The youngest member of Mutanimals reasoned nonchalantly.

Dr. Rockwell’s eyes bulge in annoyance, “You're lucky I thought about this outcome and—monkey noise—made a backup panel!” 

“And our little intruders are interesting.” Dr. Rockwell added as he eyed the three humans with maniacal interest.

“We ain’t telling ya’ nothin’!” Came a muffled statement from the masked human.

“Hm, yes,” Rockwell made another monkey noise, “Slash, you know where the backup panel. Take—monkey noise—Gecko with you, penance for destroying my tech.”

Slash grunted, “Let’s go, kid,” As he dropped the groceries, and walked outside.

“Not a kid!” Mondo squawked.

“Yeah, yeah,” Slash waved off the attempted correction, making Mondo offended.

Leatherhead stared at the duo bickering back and forth.

“Doctor, put them down, I want to try tying them up,” Mona Lisa enthusiastically said.

“Ah yes,” Monkey sounds, and eyes bulged for a second, “Space doesn’t have rope. Instead you alien tie with magnetic space metal.”

The Salamandrian warrior nodded, “Sometimes electricity. Burnt skin and pain make the captive more compliant.”

Leatherhead can attest. The Kraang had tied him with electricity before.

“Raphael taught me the proper ways of tying with ropes or wires. The painful and the non-painful way, and I’ve been looking for an opportunity to test my learnings” By that meaning, the non-painful is actually not painful for mutants or aliens. And maybe non-painful for trained humans only.

“And you’ll be trying…?” Leatherhead wanted to know, as Michelangelo tried teaching him once, but it was futile because Leatherhead kept accidentally cutting the wire/rope. But they did discover Leatherhead can somewhat tie someone with metal pipes in case chains aren’t available in the area.

“Wire. The painful way.” 

Leatherhead felt pity for the human intruders. Michelangelo said the wire is more painful than the ropes. Unlike the ropes tied with the painful method, they irritate the skin if you try to move or escape, the wire on the other hand makes you bleed.

It took 10 minutes, as the humans tried to escape while being tied by the alien. And to Leatherhead’s surprise, the Salamandrian warrior tied the male human with the not painful method. And the fact the masked human gave her the most trouble despite being less refined than his companions.

During the 10 minutes, Slash and Mondo brought the back-up-controlled panel, which Dr. Rockwell quickly integrated into their lair system and managed to open the lights the moment Mona was finished tying the redhead human.

“Now!” Dr. Rockwell clapped and eyes bulged with enthusiasm, “These two humans!” The monkey removed the mask on the male human, “Are alternate versions of our friend April O’Neil and Casey Jones!”

That doesn’t seem outlandish since they look like adult versions of their friend. Leatherhead thought.

“And! This human is Karai!” Dr. Rockwell dramatically pointed at the black-haired human.

The proclaimed alternate Karai didn’t look like Karai in Leatherhead’s opinion.

“It seems, armour and being good at the battle is consistent for any version of Karai,” Mona Lisa complimented(?). 

“You’re just going to accept that!?” Questioned the maskless Casey Jones.

“Casey…” Alternate April hissed.

The alternate Karai remained quiet as she observed them.

“Well yeah. Doc is pretty smart y’know,” Mondo answered, “Besides! Mikey told me that the multiverse exists cuz he already met an alternate version of himself… Twice!”

Alternate Universe Casey nodded hesitantly, “Okay… But all we know you guys are faking this whole alternate-whatever-situation story,” Alternate Casey Jones states with a furrowed suspicious brow.

Well, Leatherhead can’t fault this Casey Jones for being suspicious.

“We’ll call them.”

“What?”

“The turtles,” Mona specified.

“We’ll call them either way to fix this,” Slash added.

“They are the experts at this type of situation,” Rockwell said with a hint of jealousy.

“…So, you’ll untie us?” Alternate Karai asked.

“If you swear on your honour to stay until the turtles come,” Mona Lisa replied.

Alternate Karai raised her eyebrow, “You must know me intimately,” and something rest unsaid, that only Mona seemed to understand.

The alien warrior shrugged, “We have a bi-weekly girls' night out,” 

Karai huffed in amusement, like she heard something funny, “I swear on my honour, I’ll stay until this universe’s turtles show up.”

Mona hummed before turning to the other humans, “How about you two?”

“Will you stay as well?”

When the alternate April O’Neil was about to speak, the garaged door opened, and garbage and rotten food is all they could smell.

“Hey, guys! I just finished an interview with—who are these humans? And why do they look like our friends?” Questioned by the newly arrived resident New York Hero, Muck Man.

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GASP!

“Sensei!”

Splinter coughed relentlessly to the point he couldn’t recognize which of his sons had made him sit in a stable position. The mutant also has blurry vision.

“Whoa there sensei, take it easy,” His son rubbed his back. 

It took a few minutes to not hack up his lungs and to regain his vision.

“You okay, master?” Questioned Raphael, who was leaning against a graffitied wall.

“Ye-yes, I am alright, my son.” Splinter cleared his throat, “Thank you, Donatello.”

Looking around with a clearer vision, Splinter can tell they’re in an ally way. Which the rat mutant didn’t expect to be at, being sucked into the portal. And speaking of portals…

“Where’s Leonardo?” 

Seeing his three sons being together gives Splinter hope that his eldest is just reconning the area to be safe and he arrived with them. But with the expressions of his sons, Splinter’s hope wanes.

“We’re… not sure, Sensei,” Donatello took a deep breath, “Because we aren’t in our universe.”

“What do you mean, Donatello?” Splinter asked with a confused frown.

The purple-clad genius handed him a Newspaper, “While you were unconscious, Mikey and Raph did a little reconning around the area and I was protecting your body. When they’re done, Mikey found this,” The mutant turtle pointed at the newspaper date.

“August 6, 2015,” Splinter murmured in shock.

Donatello nods, “I would’ve said we’re in the future if it weren’t the fact the publishing company is different. Of course, I had taken into account the possibility of a new publishing company and future and such, but it says the company has been around since the 1887s. In our universe, it's Hearst, but here it's Hirst.”

“And don’t forget you dragged me to places!” Chimed Michelangelo.

His third oldest sighed, “And the fact I dragged Mikey to find areas that were supposed to be familiar but to only see to be slightly altered, but still related to our universe.”

“Dollar Tree is waaaay better than Cheap Shop,” Splinter’s youngest proclaimed.

“It is a little on the nose,” Donatello agreed.

“Ok, sensei is up to date. What are we going to do now?” Grunted Rapheal.

Splinter’s whiskers twitched at the small made wind.

Donatello puts a thoughtful expression, “We find this universe turtles.” 

“No need,” a hoarse voice echoed through the valley.

Splinter remains in a relaxed form while his sons draw out their weapons.

Two pairs of white eyes dropped down from the fire escape stairs and stepped out of the shadows to show two giant mutant turtles.

‘Their body is completely submerged in the shadow.’ Splinter mused as he was impressed. For he knew these turtles only showed visibility because they wanted to.

“Your Don aaaaand your Leo?” Questioned Michelangelo in a disbelief tone, as he tucked away his nun-chuck.

Splinter can see why his son is in disbelief. The two mutants have different sizes. The one wearing a purple bandana—Who Splinter assumes to be Donatello—is tall and lanky, his muscles aren’t pronounced much, and his eye colour is reddish brown. While his blue bandana companion—Leonardo… Splinter’s heart is riddled with anxiety at the thought of his eldest—is smaller than this universe’s Donatello, with more pronounced muscles and his eye colour is silver-blue.  While his sons have the same height, same muscles, and same eye colour, except for Michelangelo’s baby blue eyes.

“Yes, and yes,” Alternate Donatello answered dismissively, “So, what are you guys doing in our dimension? And what year is it on your end?” 

“Ok–hold up. How can we be sure we can trust you,” Raphael questioned and interrupted before Donatello could answer his counterparts’ questions.

The alternate of his first and third eldest had shared an amused yet exasperated look at each other.

“From the looks of things, you act like our Raph. And if you're anything like our Raph” Alternate Donatello started, “You won’t trust our words regardless,” Alternate Leonardo finished.

“They got you there,” Donatello pointed out with an amused tone as he sheathed his Bō-staff.

Rapheal growled and grumpily crossed his arms after he sheathed his Sais. But the red-clad turtle is glaring warily at the alternate turtles.

“For your earlier questions. We didn’t mean to be here as we were forcefully sucked–“

Michelangelo laughs “Ha ha ha, suck.”

“–into a vortex. And it’s the year 2007 in our dimension.” Donatello continued as if he wasn’t interrupted.

‘Thank Spirit’ 

Splinter inwardly raised an eyebrow at what alternate Leonardo said. With Splinter’s ability to read lips, he managed to understand the young turtle’s words.

“Hm… What’s the source of the vortex? I might be able to replicate it.”

Donatello grimaced at the thought of the unusual source of the portal, “Stars alignment.”

“Excuse me?” Alternate Donatello stared at his son, with a gaze asking if he was joking.

“Yeah…” Unfortunately, Donatello isn’t joking.

“Right…” Came a dazed reply, “Not the weirdest transportation… What’s the stars' alignment called and how long to form?” 

“Stars of Kicaan, and 3000 years to align,” Donatello answers.

“Leo?” The alternate genius turtle turned to his brother.

This universe of his eldest shook his head, “Maybe it forms on another planet,” 

Alternate Universe Donatello hummed, “That is possible… Do you think Mona Lisa or Bishop has some information? Or willing to–”

Ba pa ba pa ba pa baa pa!

Alternate Leonardo was interrupted by a shell with a screen on it(?).

Splinter and his sons watched the object being tapped in the alternate blue-clad turtle’s hand and shared it with his Donatello.

“Looks like we’ll get information from Mona Lisa,” Alternate Leonardo said as he tucked away the small shell away. “We’re going to the Mutanimals,” Leonardo informed as he parkoured up to the building’s roof

“What? And where’s that?” Raphael loudly questioned, although, it sounded like a demand.

“Upper Manhattan,” Alternate Leonardo answered, not showing if he was bothered or not at Splinter’s hotheaded son tone, “And I hope you don’t mind being named by Mikey,” The alternate blue-clad turtled added.

“What about being named by me?” Michelangelo curiously asked as they followed his alternate brother’s example.

“Mikey–well our Mikey–likes naming things. Villains, people, or objects.” Alternate Leonardo explained.

“And if you named something without him, he’ll sulk for days,” The alternate purple-clad genius rolled his eyes.

Raphael scowled, “Why the fuck does he want to name us? We already have names!” 

“Because there are two versions of each of us. So, he’ll want to name you or us. And judging by the text, Raph successfully threaten him to name you guys instead,” Alternate Donatello explained. 

“Alright,” All six mutants dropped down in front of a vehicle, “Meet my baby, Shellraiser,” Alternate Donatello presented in a proud ‘Ta-Da’ position.

“Woah…”

The alternate version of his son revelled in the amazed look from Splinter’sfamily.

“Make yourself at home, But! Don’t break anything! Or dirty anything!” Alternate Donatello said as he sat in front of multiple monitors. While his brother sat at the steering wheel.

“Alright,” Alternate Leonardo secured his seatbelt, “Thirty-six minutes away from upper Manhattan,” The mutant set the Stick Shift.

Vrrrroooooooommm

“違う亀ですか？” Questioned Karai to the kneeling ninja. She had just been informed by one of her chuunin, who knows about her mutation and her other family members and even met them, about a Mutant Turtle with a blue bandana and twin katanas, that isn’t her brother.

“はい、カライさま” The ninja confirmed.

Karai sighed, “彼はどこにいる？”

“河童は会議室にいますよ、カライさま。” The ninja answered diligently.

Karai waved her hand, “解雇する” and the ninja disappeared.

Karai stayed still for a few moments, “Shinigami,” Karai turned to her Chuunin[4], “What do you think?”

“On whether this is an actual yokai tricking us or just an alternate version of your brothers?” Shinigami questioned, as she sat on Karai’s desk.

Karai let out a small smile, as she intertwines their fingers together, “Both.”

Shini hummed before magicking a flower, “Let’s pick Dendrobium petals, and see our answer,”

“Kame”

Pick

“Brother”

Fall

“Kame”

Pick

“Brother”

Fall

“Kame”

Pick

“Brother”

Fall

“Kame”

Pick

“Brother”

Fall

Karai watched as Shinigami plucked off the petals and let them fall to the ground until the last petal is in her hand.

“Brother,” Shinigami eyed the dendrobium petal with a Cheshire smile. 

Shinigami let the petal fall to Karai’s palm. Which the Jounin [5] eyed.

“Tell Daisuke to put other Leo in a box–“ Karai paused as a mischievous idea formed in her head, “Actually–put him in a closet, and the inside must have these colours,” Karai handed a piece of paper, “And appoint a flight to New York.”

“As you wished,” Shinigami dramatically bowed and disappeared in a puff of smoke in her wake.

[1] Knowing these two humans looking like Leatherhead’s friends would compromise him. It would feel like he’s attacking his friends. Mona on the other hand thinks these humans were playing a dirty trick to look like her friends, by looking like her friends, these humans thinks she won’t attack them.

[2] Salamander, Leopard Gecko, and Crocodiles has better night vision than humans. Leatherhead is a mixed mutant between Alligator-Crocodile-Human

[3] I’m not typing OOOO-AAAA-OO for monkey noises.

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Chapters: 1/? Fandom: Spider-Man - All Media Types, Spider-Man (Tom Holland Movies), Spider-Man: Spider-Verse (Sony Animated Movies), Marvel Cinematic Universe, Marvel (Comics) Rating: General Audiences Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence Relationships: Peter Benjamin Parker | Spider-Man Noir & Peter Parker, May Parker (Spider-Man) & Peter Parker Characters: Peter Benjamin Parker | Spider-Man Noir, Peter Parker, Spider God (Marvel), May Parker (Spider-Man), Ned Leeds, Michelle Jones, Michelle "MJ" Jones Additional Tags: No beta we die like Uncle Ben, This Fic only exist because I want more Noir content and MCU Spidey is my host, Author will be acting Spider God because he can, MCU Peter getting unexpected and unnecessary Traumas, The Spider God disagrees and says he's giving character development, Peter Parker not having a good time, BAMF Peter Parker, Mild Gore, Pre-Spider-Man: Homecoming, It's actually 1 month and a half since civil war lol, author is winging this, At some point. Author will write Peter getting away calling a cop a dick, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, This is more like a Alternate Timeline, Thank you Loki :), Out of Character, PLease be nice about my coding. I just figured out how to use CSS in ao3, Inappropriate Use Of 1930s Slang, get your mind of the gutter. it's nothing like that Summary:

MCU Peter Parker got hit by a drone during his patrol then suddenly he receives Spider-Man Noir's memory!

Timeline Pre-Homecoming: 1 month and a half since the civil war. MCU Peter was Swinging around the city, hand on a phone, texting Happy; then out of nowhere, a drone hit Peter!

In another timeline, the drone wouldn't have hit Peter, but he was on his phone and wasn't paying attention. And his Spider-sense didn't deem the drone to be a threat. (idiot)

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Raphael couldn’t help but feel helpless rage at the situation at hand. Things are finally back together, granted it’s not smooth but his little family is finally complete. Leo finally came back from his extended vacation—sorry, ‘training’. He would’ve been happy seeing the blue-clad turtle if it weren’t for the fact the turtle became such an arrogant jerk!

How could he just waltz back into their life and act like he was never gone from their life for two years! It’s already bad enough that year but that asshole decided to extend it! So, it was quite therapeutic to beat Leo to the ground, until Raph lost his sense of self… After snapping out the trance before he could kill his older brother, Raph felt shame, anger, and guilt at that moment. Not looking at his older brother, Raph turned and ran away to sort out what just happened, perhaps he shouldn’t have done that.

Raph should’ve just talked to him, Leo, his older brother, about how much Raph missed him. How much it hurt to hear he’s going to be in leadership training for a year. But Raph endured, but a year passed and Leo didn’t come back and Raph was… It felt like the blue clad turtle abandoned them. Abandoned them for no reason… But Raph couldn’t waste his time on what ifs when he stared where Leo was kidnapped, he had to get the others to rescue Leo.

And rescue they did. They got delayed a bit from preparing their rescue mission and they got delayed further while forcing themselves through the foot. And when they arrived, Raph didn’t have the time to compliment Casey’s smart move on shutting the door, as Raph and his brothers immediately went towards the last three remaining chambers.

Donnie used his staff to pole jump into the sucking chamber, “He’s not here!”, the genius dropped down after confirming.

“He’s not here either, dudes!” Mikey, states with a faux-cheery tone.

Raph felt relief was over him, but that relief was shortcoming when a body hit him and his family from reaching where Leo was trapped.

April hissed at the body thrown at him, “Winters.”

“Looks more like fall. Get it?” Mikey jokes lightheartedly, making their temporary leader sigh tiredly.

“Mikey, Remember our talk.” Donnie chided.

Casey kicked Winters body, “Looks like someone got to him before us.”

April tilted her head, “Is he dead?”

Raph groaned, “No time to know he’s dead or not! Leo’s next to be sucked!” He barks, as the second chamber is slowly being pulled towards the portal. But before Raph could run to his brother’s cage, he narrowly dodges a blade that was aimed for his head.

“Stay where you are, turtle.” A deep rumbling voice echoed. It’s a stone general that April warned them about.

SREEEEEEEECH

As if the situation was bad enough, the fucking Foot managed to open the door!

“Fuck.” Raph cursed under his breath.

“Just in time,” The double blade wielding general said with an akin pleased tone. “Join us, Foot clan. Swear your allegiance and no harm will befall you when the rain of destruction is thrown upon Earth.”

“The Foot ninja is not without honor. We work for Winters, not you,” Karai, with no hesitation, declared.

April wryly looked at the Chuunin, “Okay… What does that mean?”

Unbothered by the redhead kunoichi wry looks, Karai responded cooly, “It means we’re going to help you. My ninjas will find the last monster and you will bring it back here. Hurry, we don’t have much time.”

“And we’ll get Leo,” He mumbled, as Raph stared at the Stoned Generals with determination.

“I’m afraid we can’t let you go to find that monster, Karai.” Saying this was the biggest stone general, a general holding a big war hammer and standing in front of the busted door.

“Hm.” Karai turned to face us, “Turtles, go save your brother. If he gets sucked in, the portal might close making this curse last forever.”

Donnie nods, “Right. Sensei, please take out the one who is using the obsidian sword. Mikey, take the woman, and Raph. Take the Double-sword blade user. Distract them while I’ll free Leo!” There it is. Donnie’s, his little brother’s, brilliant mind working. Despite there being only three times when Donnie had led them during Leo’s absence, the purple-clad genius is great at strategies.

“I think we deserve a little treat before we can start our terror, right older brother?” The Jaguar skin stone general asked.

“I supposed. This is a rather laughable match up,” The Eagle theme general laughed.

Raph scowled. ‘Pft–let those damn generals underestimate us. It’ll be their fault when they lose because they’re underestimating us’. Raph thought.

“You boys do that, while I defend our fake monster.” The female general hissed. What is she? A snake?

“Sorry dude no can do. By that, I mean, I can’t let you do that.” Mikey warned with a dangerous tone. Looks like Mikey is getting serious, so should he.

“Alright, turtle, show me what you got,” His opponent haughtily said.

Raph let out a battle cry as he charged the general. Unexpectedly, the general just took the hit. Fuck, this means Raph can’t use his usual tactic on brute strength.

Let it be known that despite the fact Raph isn’t rusty when it comes to fighting unlike his two younger brothers. The reason him being, he was the Nightwatcher. But being a Nightwatcher made Raph ditch most of his ninja training, by that, meaning all of it except stealth. But it’s not Raph’s fault on discovering that brute force is the best way to deal with the thugs in the City! Besides, the criminals he handles aren’t intelligent or dangerous enough to use some Ninja trickery. Until now that is.

“Urk!” Raphael coughed. As he’s flung towards a glass display. Raph groaned, sitting up to realize he landed on what is inside the glass display. A weapon rack. Jackpot.

“Pathetic. I thought you’re the toughest warrior out of your kin. Looks like I’m wrong.” The general mocked.

“Ha! Please. I barely started!” Raphael said with a feral grin. Charging once again, but this time, Raph threw a smoke pellet towards the general’s eyes which surprised the stone general.

Raph revels in the pained grunts coming from his opponent, as it seems, even immortal, the eyes are always a weakness. Raph swung a Mace to the General’s face, making the Eagle General only stumbles a bit, much to Raph’s disappointment. Raph threw shurikens he had left towards the General’s face, which the General blocked. Ah, his opponent learned Raph is aiming for his face only. That doesn’t bother Raph one-bit.

Another thing he learned when he was Nightwatcher, going for the kneecaps is the best limb to go for brutal blows. As kneecaps can immobilize his opponents. And despite the general being stone, Raph didn’t doubt a little blow on the knees can affect the immortal. If he can get stung from the eyes, he can surely fall to his knees.

“RAPH! LOOK OUT!” Raph immediately went into his shell. Raph managed to avoid a hammer strike.

“Thank you, Mono.” The eagle theme thanked his largest brother, who grunted in acknowledgement. “Now.” The general pricked up the panicking Raph who was still inside his shell, and threw him up towards Donnie, who was about to put a device that can open Leo’s cage.

Both brothers fell down tumbling. Both middle siblings detangled from each other to only see something they didn’t want.

“No!”

“Leo!”

“Dammnit.”

The family and the three humans watch in horror as the bright swirling vortex finally sucked the contents in Leo’s chamber.

Raphael couldn’t help but feel helpless rage at the situation at hand. And he couldn’t help but beat himself up for causing this situation. If he just talked or just apologized in the rooftop for almost killing his brother instead running away then this wouldn’t have–

Suddenly, his family screams snapped out of his thoughts.

“MICHELANGELO!” Splinter reached for his youngest son, who was being sucked to the swirling vortex. A vortex that is supposed to disappear when it sucked his eldest son. A vortex that shouldn’t be bigger and more aggressive on trying to pull things in it.

“Raph!” Raph felt terrified, as his youngest brother disappeared into the portal and Donnie. God Donnie. He’s being sucked in also. Grabbing his brother, Raph held fiercely onto him, shielding the purple-clad turtle away from the swirling vortex. Raph just can’t lose another one of his brothers. Until he felt being pulled in also.

Looking around, everyone is about to be sucked in. Except the damn immortals. Them being stone must be a fucking relief to them.

Raph felt fur hugging him and Donnie. Well, at least they’ll be together once again.

Hugging both of his remaining family, as they were pulled into the vortex.

Everything went into deafening silence

Everything went to white

Everything went static

Everything went pink

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[junsei-draws-rotasu]

You know the fucked up speech about sacrificing anything for the mission that Splinter gave to Leo.

I’ve been thinking about on why Splinter, the helicopter parent, the rat that went beast mode on a Kraang Droid for cracking on baby Ralph’s shell, say that to his son?

My bet on the part of the speech “No matter who it is”, Splinter is referring to stranger. Like Splinter doesn’t expect Leo to take the advice on only sacrificing himself or his brothers or their friends. Splinter is expecting Leo to sacrifice a random person, which Splinter would be perfectly fine with seeing his family made it all back home.

Because if the weapons says anything, where Splinter gave twin katanas to Leo to symbolize there are hard decisions to come by and will effect his moral code, then yeah. Splinter is banking on some rando dying.

[junsei-alke]

[junsei-draws-rotasu]

You know the fucked up speech about sacrificing anything for the mission that Splinter gave to Leo.

I’ve been thinking about on why Splinter, the helicopter parent, the rat that went beast mode on a Kraang Droid for cracking on baby Ralph’s shell, say that to his son?

My bet on the part of the speech “No matter who it is”, Splinter is referring to stranger. Like Splinter doesn’t expect Leo to take the advice on only sacrificing himself or his brothers or their friends. Splinter is expecting Leo to sacrifice a random person, which Splinter would be perfectly fine with seeing his family made it all back home.

Because if the weapons says anything, where Splinter gave twin katanas to Leo to symbolize there are hard decisions to come by and will effect his moral code, then yeah. Splinter is banking on some rando dying.

[junsei-alke]

[theresistanceneverquits]

So this last week was OCD Awareness Week and it got me thinking about how in TMNT 2012, Donnie was “confirmed” to have obsessive-compulsive disorder. (A writer who worked on the show confirmed it.) However, as someone with OCD I have never related to Donnie, and I’ve recently been rewatching the series with this knowledge in mind and still have not seen any good evidence of representation from him.

However, I feel like a character that actually displays themes of OCD well is Leo. I will say that my view of Leo’s OCD-coding is more based on his mentality, as opposed to actually showing signs of rituals or anything. This is me acknowledging that in-canon he does not exhibit Actual signs of OCD (neither does Donnie), but rather that his mentality better reflects OCD than Donnie’s does, to the point where I’ve related to Leo at times because of these themes.

There are also aspects that overlap with Leo possibly having ptsd and/or depression in the series, but I am making this analysis to educate you about how OCD works regardless, as I feel there is still something to be learned from headcanons and theories when it comes to analysis. I will also analyze how Donnie’s traits that can be skewed to represent OCD actually better fit a diagnosis of autism, using research provided to me by some friends who are autistic.

Onto the analysis! Starting with Donnie, there were a few traits I was able to identify that could work as OCD. He’s neat and organized, dislikes change, and hyperfixates on his work. He also had that chart to help him ask out April, which shows his need for preparation. However, his chart was in preparation for the sake of a goal, whereas for OCD the “preparation” is like preparing for a tragedy that will never exist. And the chart is being used to avoid social conflict as opposed to his own internal anxiety. These traits are not caused by a need to satisfy intrusive thoughts and compulsions, but are rather how he processes his environment better. Donnie would feel frustrated, off-kilter, and overwhelmed if his routines were messed with. Leo attaches more of a moral weight to the actions in his routines.

So that brings me to how Donnie shows signs of being autistic. He tends to explain things and volunteer information when the situation doesn’t call for it, and especially during dire situations. An interesting parallel is how in Rise of the TMNT, Donnie is canonically autistic; in the Rise Movie Donnie says, “Data collection calms me down.” In the season 2 finale of 2012, Donnie tells Leo that oversharing and being technical is “how I deal with stress!”

Donnie also stims, such as often sticking out his tongue when he works. He is also very particular about the layout of his stuff in his lab, and shows great distress when someone (Mikey) messes with his stuff. He doesn’t want to feel out of control of his environment in his own workspace. He also tends to take things literally, such as when Raph said “Could we pick a more cliche way to get eaten?” sarcastically, and Donnie proceed to list off actual cliches to Raph’s annoyance.

Finally, Donnie sometimes experiences sensory discomfort. When Mikey spilled “greasy popcorn” all over Donnie, Donnie was enraged, noting the fact that it was greasy in particular. Additionally, at a point where all the Turtles get sprayed with monster guts, Donnie’s initial reaction is to ask for hand sanitizer. While washing your hands and being clean is a common OCD trait, Donnie’s concern here is with because of the texture and germs associated.

Leo’s turn!

Okay so before we get to how 2012 Leo is OCD-coded, I want to point out that Leo actually definitely has OCPD in every version except for Rise and you can fight me on that. “Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder is characterized by a pervasive preoccupation with orderliness, perfectionism, and control (with no room for flexibility) that ultimately slows or interferes with completing a task;” Leo is consistently portrayed as being a controlling perfectionist. Additionally, “OCPD is a personality disorder, which means it involves personality traits that are stable, long-held, atypical, and problematic in some way. In the case of OCPD, people with this condition may find it hard to relate to others, and their devotion to perfectionism and rigid control can make it difficult to function.” This is Leo to a T. Others around him get annoyed with these traits in him, and these traits make up many of his definitive personality traits across the franchise. This side note aside, we may move on to OCD.

I am reiterating here that my purpose is to show how Leo’s themes as a character and in his story reflect those of obsessive-compulsive disorder and am seeking to analyze and educate based on that. I am not arguing that he canonically has OCD. That being said, his themes align best with the subtype of moral scrupulosity OCD, which has people obsess over the morality of their thoughts and actions and often seek outside help to distinguish the truth.

Some basics of Leo’s character that fit OCD themes: he has several episodes of panic, recurring nightmares about his worst fears, he’s controlling and a perfectionist, and thinks something bad will happen if he isn’t at his best and puts all that pressure on himself alone. People with OCD tend to believe that bad things happen because of certain things that they do or don’t do, regardless of how accurate that belief is (it is not an accurate belief). They also can seem oddly controlling to others as they try to gauge certain no-no actions from those around them. Additionally, in “Fungus Humongous,” Leo says, “I face my fear every day.” OCD is run by fear and paranoia, and we too face our fears every day. Fun fact: I like to watch “Parisitica” and “Fungus Humongous” when I’m feeling low because of how relatable I find Leo’s struggles in them.

FINALE SPOILERS: Finally, a symptom of OCD includes “Aggressive or horrific thoughts about losing control and harming yourself or others,” which I feel parallels in Mutant Apocalypse, when Leo attacks his family in a crazed state. He becomes just like the Shredder at this moment; a direct contradiction to his worst fear of losing them. He becomes double mutated because he chose to save his family over himself.

Examining now how Leo’s struggles line up with the morality theme, it’s like his brain is giving him ultimatums and black and white statements about ‘ok you have to be THIS or else THIS will happen.’ In a smaller scale, he would rather do training “right” than quickly, like in that scene where Leo’s doing his katas slower than his brothers and he makes a jab at them for their ‘poor’ form.’ Another interesting example comes with how he is consistently obsessed with finding and helping Karai throughout the series. He feels an intense sense of responsibility about it, even in situations when it really seems out of their hands, either because of wacky circumstances or because of her own actions. He says he's doing it for Splinter, but Splinter has already reassured him several times that he doesn't NEED to. His obsession conflicts with the interests of literally his entire family; it’s a situation that is linked with his morality. Leo is a very kind person who sees the best in people and wants to help them. Karai is his sister and his father’s daughter; he takes it as his personal responsibility to save her—a savior complex born from this obsession.

Now I wanna talk about Leo’s fears and where he turns to deal with them. OCD thrives off of people “Doubting and having difficulty tolerating uncertainty.” The next few sections includes major spoilers for the season 4 finale as well as talk of Main Character Death, so feel free to skip this section. Season 4’s space arc and events taking place after “Requiem” show intense examples of this for Leo. While a part of his actions here are likely due to ptsd and/or depression, it also parallels well with how OCD works.

Leo often goes to his father for advice. However, in the space arc when he’s separated from Splinter and in season 5 when Splinter is dead, Leo still has a need to seek advice and validation from his father. It is a response of grief, but it’s also his way of feeling like he’s getting guidance in a time when he doesn’t trust himself. This is similar to the reassurance-seeking compulsion, where someone with OCD goes to an outside source to entertain whatever thoughts the OCD has come up with, instead of just letting those thoughts go. Leo talking with Splinter practically every day via hologram in the space arc is his coping mechanism during that time, but even his brothers view it as excessive. It’s as if it’s the only thing tethering him during that time where he has little stability.

Additionally, ruminating is seen in the form of Leo constantly focusing on Splinter’s death, both in the space arc and post-“Requiem.” “OCD obsessions are repeated, persistent and unwanted thoughts, urges or images that are intrusive and cause distress or anxiety;” in “Trans-Dimensional Turtles” in the space arc, Leo is talking with the past version of Splinter and sees a vision of him being stabbed by the Shredder. This flashback is presented as something he is constantly thinking and worried about; very little else consumes his thoughts. The ptsd overlap once again occurs here, but I am pointing out that it is this sort of rumination that people with OCD experience often.

Finally, people with OCD “may try to ignore or stop [their] obsessions, but that only increases [their] distress and anxiety.” In the space arc, Leo is slowly being put through it, until he snaps near the end of the arc, going off on a suicide mission alone when he thinks they’ve been led astray by Fugitoid. No one in his family brought up their concerns for his mental well-being to him, and when not surrounded by his family he expressed his doubts and fears. But most of the time for those 6 months Leo spent in denial, singularly focused on their mission to save Earth and Master Splinter. It wasn’t until that vision was seemingly put in jeopardy that he finally snapped and acted reckless to the point of nearly dying. Leo simultaneously indulged in his obsessions while consciously ignoring their existence while in the presence of others, and that led to him being in great distress.

2012 Donnie is not at all a representation of obsessive-compulsive disorder past being the “smart character,” but he is a good representation of autism, whether intentional or not. Leonardo, while not explicitly being a character with OCD, does carry similar themes that make for a relatable OCD-coded character.

Here’s my contribution to OCD Awareness Week. You are now Aware.

Special Thanks:

@/sailor_the_robot on Insta for practically co-writing this with me. Much of this essay includes direct quotes from her.

@phoenixquill-art for her help as well with Donnie’s analysis!

@mej2235 for beta reading :3

Sources:

Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) - Symptoms and causes

Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) - Symptoms and causes

Learn the Difference Between Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder and OCD

Obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (OCPD) is characterized by inflexibility and strict orderliness. Learn more about what makes OCPD

The OCD Project (@the_ocdproject) • Instagram photos and videos

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[edgyandoverzealous]

Friendly reminders because I'm rewatching TMNT 2012:

2012 Donatello listened exclusively to Polka and hip hop. One song of each before he made the T-pod which auto-downloaded thousands upon thousands of songs. He also doesn't really have a designated "lab" he just works in the living area or his room. He also is shit working under pressure and his brothers don't watch him work all that often because they try to "help" which stresses Donnie out who then messes up and kaboom, another explosion.

2012 Leo's personality is stolen entirely from his superhero shows, which he has completely memorized. He also is a natural born leader, he picked up on that shit immediately and the learning curve was essentially a straight line. His earned confidence is what trips him up.

2012 Raph loves his brothers but extremely secretly because he has a reputation tm. And is an angsty teenage boy, aka a ball of anger and feigned apathy. Additionally he's just as dorky as Leo but with comic books and his pet turtle spike.

2012 Mikey named a lot of Donnie's inventions and is the first to see a lot of them. Enough so to have a favorite microchip and know how to diffuse a bomb. Additionally Mikey is pretty damn intuitive and naturally lucky.

2012 April's main motivation is her family, in short family first everything else last. Also she wants a completely normal life and mourns the life she's lost.

2012 Splinter is more distant from his sons and takes more of a sensei role because he's already lost a child and he's terrified to lose another, let alone 4 of them but he can't show that fear openly he has to take care of and raise 4 boys. This is also why he took April in so easily as well, she probably reminds him of his daughter.

Do with these as you will.

[squeezeefish]

THEY ARE SO FUCKIBG SHORT I CANT BREATHE

HOW DUD I NOT KNOW THIS UNTIL NOW IM SOBBING-

[sabindark]

You’re telling me this is what their rooms were originally supposed to look like?!

[junsei-draws-rotasu]

Just watched ROTTMNT MOVIE! So Spoilers!!!!

HOLY SHELL! The animation is AMAZING, anyway! I cried! Because even though I got spoiled in the end, I still cried and got me thinking Leo wouldn’t make it! Like woooow!

I—

I just can’t say anything! It’s an amazing movie! Characters are consistent! And I saw parallels!

Karai and Leo?! Hello???? Sacrificing themselves into another dimension! Skdhksisbaksisjskidud

[junsei-draws-rotasu]

Before I watch the ROTTMNT movie. I was right about ROTTMNT went hard on season 2, and the fact the scenes I think are dumb somehow makes me emotional. Great Job to story writing of ROTTMNT.

Even some scene doesn’t makes sense, it somehow touched my heart

[junsei-draws-rotasu]

You know, when I remember I was in the TMNT fandom, I decidedly checked tumblr about the updates. And boy I was surprise.

First of all, didn’t realized Splinter 2012 looked that way to others. Because in my opinion he wasn’t bad. Good parent he is.

Second of all, April2012, I knew I wasn’t crazy when I felt effy about her becoming a kunouichi! Felt to fast and the fact she already mastered almost everything when the turtles had been training their whole lives?!

And third of all! Now I had watched ROTTMNT with an open mind. I would say it’s chaotic lh childish, but eh. I like it enough to watch the rest of it. But the comments on comparing both Splinters? Dude, they got their own flaws being a parent, while I’m a little peeved how Rise!Splinter is irresponsible, but I can accept it with the little spoilers I had seen explaining why

[junsei-draws-rotasu]

Just finished watching ROTTMNT season 1 and I say not bad. If I watched it younger, I would def hated it considering I was in my TMNT 2k12 supremacy arc and nothing can beat. What a hypocrite I am when I watched TMNT 2003 and the Bayvers.

But like all other shows I watched(especially monkie kid) they tend to go hard on S2.