We understand that Broodmother is a reflection of the brutality of Orzammar and its use of women’s bodies explicitly for breeding, right?
In Orzammar women are always already broodmothers.
Broodmother is a narrative reflection of that use and that reality, a use of women which is justified in Orzammar as having to replenish the Warrior and upper castes due to the constant pressure of Darkspawn, but in the deep roads is stripped away of all its social pretence.
Orzammar’s narratives are entirely about people being used, abused and consumed in the service of caste and necessity, and how this particularly effects people who are assumed to be able to give birth, how it creates not just sex work but pregnancy work, and the coercive ways necessity operates on people.
It’s not at all a subtle parallel. The darkspawn do not defeat House Branka; Branka- Paragon, Noble, highest caste and most powerful woman in Orzammar- feeds her lessers to the darkspawn.
She has all her story reasons for doing it, but at the base and inescapable level, she (like all the other Dwarves of Orzammar) use and discard lower Castes because they can, because they have the power to, because the caste system organises them to be able to.
I honestly absolutely hate with a spitting seething passion the kind of analysis that sees horror, especially horror against women, being committed in a narrative and immediately becomes incapable of saying anything about media other than “it’s just edgy/gritty/grimdark” and dismissing it.
Life is edgy gritty and grimdark for a lot of us. I was a teenage sex worker. My life was edgy gritty and grimdark. I experienced some of the most vulgar expressions of how gender works in my society, and I experienced them bluntly.
And to dismiss depictions of sexual, gendered violence as “purely for shock” when they are not, when they have something to say about gender and power and violence in a setting, is to assign stories like my real life as “shock value”.
There is more feminist shit to say about Orzammar alone than anything in Veilguard, because Orzammar is actually interested in gender and in the social roles and violences that create, reinforce and are a consequence of gender systems*.
And personally, I will pick a story that clumsily tries to say something about power and violence and society over a smooth story that says nothing about those things every single time; but that doesn’t mean Broodmother isn’t worthy and deserving of criticism (it is!) but can we please at least start from a place of criticising it for what it actually is and what it is actually doing in the game? The work and text that is the game?
*I am not saying Orzammar is feminist or is doing feminism, but you can analyse it from a feminist standpoint because the cloying weight of Gender and Gender In Society as a faucet of the setting is inescapable.
the “non-sexist Thedas” thing was always kind of insane to me bc i had interpreted the in-world treatment of the broodmothers as something universally viewed as horrible/terrifying vs the acceptance Orzammar’s citizens have of its caste system societal structure as a commentary on how different irl societies often criticize each other for Things (including discrimination/violence against women) while also perpetuating those same Things in different (or even sometimes similar) ways. and idk if they thought that throwing out “sexism doesn’t exist” would make people feel better or what, but if anything it almost had the opposite effect because like, okay then what was all of THAT gesticulates towards Origins’ female city elf prologue and Orzammar’s treatment of women and broodmothers etc. even for???? because i had assumed it was intentional commentary but now y’all got me thinking otherwise which. is perchance. Not A Great Look?
there’s been such a weird shift in media overall where the assumption seems to be that people DON’T want to engage with like, basic statements or ideas that may reflect reality? and it’s really been weirding me out. and people have been using the whole “oh but i don’t like grimdark” thing as an excuse and it’s like???? that’s not what that means???
like sorry not to make everything about Star Wars on main, but take the first film (A New Hope) for example. LITERALLY the word “hope” is in the mf title! i highly doubt that if you asked anyone who’s seen it to describe the film they’d say it’s grimdark or depressing. but you know what it has?
among other things:
oppressive authoritarian fascist government
a scene in which the main character’s parental figures are burned alive in their own home
a scene in which a captive character is heavily implied to be tortured
a cybernetic death samurai who kills people with his evil-colored laser sword for Breathing At Him Wrong
and if you took any one of those things out of the narrative it wouldn’t hit the same. they’re important to the narrative at least in part because even though they’re negative or uncomfortable, they’re reflections of things that are real, and the narrative takes those reflections and holds them up in front of you and says “i think we should talk about what America is doing in Vietnam” (George Lucas was hugely anti-Vietnam war and it shows in his depiction of a fascist government fighting to exterminate a rag-tag group of Rebels) or “i think we should talk about how Western society’s idea of love is actually kind of possessive, and sometimes love is about letting go and moving on and that’s ok” (George Lucas is Buddhist and again it comes across in his depiction of the Jedi and their philosophy). and while i personally think he was extremely valid for saying those things, whether or not George Lucas was correct or even if he made those points well is not the point, the point is that he was willing to engage in the discussions in the first place.
you can have discussions about things that are sometimes hard to have discussions about without dismissing them as “edgy”/“grimdark.” that is a thing that you can do. i can’t help but feel as though we’ve gotten to a very strange point in time where so many creators and consumers are just fully unwilling to do that (op’s initial point about Broodmothers being an excellent example of that imho) and it sucks.
