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123 I want yuri
Hey so I thought this was the actual scene clip 🥹 this is life changing rn
Who wants to know the Timurov girls’ middle name :)
It’s Arkadievna. Patronymic for their father as is tradition for Russian families. They both have it. (At least they should)
Yes, but I want to tell you something more cool, but Russian surnames in the feminine case are declinable. The ending A is added. That is, they are both not Timurov, but Timurova.
Kira Timurova, Riri Timurova, and also Katrina Timurova. (But Arkadi is Timurov)
So it is kinda mistake in the show.
I think it could also be Тимуровна (timurovna) depending on what her father chose to do on her birth certificate.
Do we get confirmation that Kira’s mother changed her last name to match Arkadi? Or is she different? I don’t remember whether or not her name appears on the chairs at the recital.
Who wants to know the Timurov girls’ middle name :)
It’s Arkadievna. Patronymic for their father as is tradition for Russian families. They both have it. (At least they should)
Who wants to know the Timurov girls’ middle name :)
Several asks sitting in the inbox lol I got overwhelmed I will address everything tomorrow! Been working on art and such for this blog.
someone on twitter said what if Riri is Wendy and I'm kinda losing my mind over this suggestion because Wendy is not credited with an actress anywhere from what I can tell and it seriously looks like Anwen. Someone talk me in or out of it.
It is the same actress, yep.
I think it is useful for Riri to play a role of a pet in glasses to learn more information about anything, y'know.
Agree wholeheartedly. It does add a layer to Riri as well. I want to believe Riri loves Kira, doesn’t want her to fail and doesn’t want her to get hurt but if she IS Wendy then the knife she twisted doesn’t make it seem like she has her sister’s best interests at heart. She paved the way for Yumeko’s success, whether she meant it or not, but I don’t think it was accidental. She orchestrated Kira’s loss of control.
Then again, I think Kira’s stronger when she has nothing to lose. She fought for control for so long, she doesn’t have it anymore, but she does have a crazy loose canon on her side. Yumeko respects, maybe even loves, crazy. She loves it when Mary finally grows a pair and stands up to her. And she’s the only one who doesn’t avert her eyes when Kira loses her shit and chokes out her sister. Yumeko’s mentality is the End Will Justify The Means- and Kira seems to have the same idea. I want to see Yumeko’s loyalty to her friends tested against Kira. When there’s a choice to be made between getting what she wants and betraying her friends, who will she choose?
I think Kira’s going to create a dangerous situation for herself going forward- she’ll be testing Riri’s love for her while she fights her way back. How far would Riri go to defend herself? Is she really taking the seat for her own interests? Or is it just loyalty to her father, to get ahead in the world? Kira’s going to barrel through everything with Yumeko at her side and put a massive target on her back.
But maybe when they both have nothing, no one, left, they’ll have each other. When Yumeko makes a choice that turns her friends against her she’ll have Kira, and instead of being mean for once maybe Kira will offer her the comfort she’s always wished she had herself. I want the next time Yumeko’s sobbing and helplessly crying for Kira like she did on the floor over Gabriel for Kira to show weakness and pick her up into her arms. For Yumeko to have someone who wants to be there for her and knows the whole story.
And what of Riri’s relationship with Mary? What will Riri choose for herself- making her father happy or being seen and possibly loved for the first time in her life but someone who doesn’t have a vested interest in her power.
Although I think after having raked through these thoughts Season 2 will likely push us in a direction like Kakegurui season 2 did- there has to be an outside force for our characters to fight against because it would be deeply tragic to watch a slow motion car crash occur in the terms of Kira and Yumeko vs Riri and Mary to see who will rip who to shreds first.
Apologies for the mega thought dump it WILL happen again.
Okay, the one thing I cannot stop thinking about is why NOBODY did anything when Kira started choking Riri. Yep, Kira's mom came, but not that very moment. And sge was mostly afraid than about to help...
Arkadi didn't care. Guardians and classmates didn't care. I dunno, maybe they all didn't even believe Kira will do it...
And even Mary didn't come. Duh.
Agree about the Mary thing. Mary didn’t come to help so like. Was she that angry with Riri and had already given up on her?
Arkadi not coming to help feels normal to me tho that’s just kinda how Russian parents are. Duke that shit out yourselves. If one of you kills the other? Survival of the fittest I guess. Kira’s mom obviously doesn’t care very much for Riri, and seemed scared of Kira in that moment. Thinking back to the “she’s a product of your father” “so am I” moment. A little bit of his violent abusive side peeks out in Kira.
At first I was kind of meh about Kira because I thought her characterization was closer to an archetypical YA mean girl but reading thoughtful metas like yours helps me see what I was missing when I binged the show. I would like to hear about your opinion on show Yumeko vs anime Yumeko.
I'm glad my thoughts unlocked a new appreciation for her :0 thats awesome. I think she's a surface mean girl but her backstory/ inspiration character Kirari changes a lot for me about her behavior.
In terms of Yumeko's character, it kinda makes me deeply upset that her whole arc revolves around getting revenge for her parents' killer because it feels like her future is short lived in this way. It kinda kills off branches and opportunities for her, while also stifling her origin character.
Kakegurui's Jabami Yumeko is known for her skill as a gambler, but also her love of the game. We rarely if ever see her angry with anyone, and when we do, its always at Midari- and only because Midari consistently makes selfish choices that deny Yumeko pleasure and hogs it all for herself. She's never angry with Midari for creating a deadly or hurtful game- she's angry that she can't feel the thrill longer because Midari is monopolizing it by cheating to lose or cutting all the strings on the guillotine because she's hungry for the thrill. Yumeko isn't angry with Saotome Mary or Yuriko or even Itsuki for cheating- she gets a rise out of exposing their lies. She consistently seeks a raising of the stakes, against Yumemi in the competition for Top Idol and even when she bets her life against Kaede. Yumeko is sick and twisted, we get this VERY clearly in the anime.
Yumeko is Bet is slightly soulless in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I still appreciate her character and the way she influences other around her but her goals to me seem clouded. Her single aim from the moment she enter's St. Dom's is to find her parents killer and kill them. What irks me about it is the lack of nuance. Why were they killed? Did they know? Where were they even going? Bet fed us a murder mystery without all the pieces. While I understand not knowing everything keeps us hooked for Yumeko's plotline, what I feel it does is try to charity in Michael through his actions. He stopped her from killing an innocent man, from leaving it on her conscience, but the fact that Yumeko makes the choice to do so in the first place is incredible to me. She seeks no information, and she seems to glean only secondary joy from gambling, and only from winning at that. I feel like Bet's Yumeko lost the underlying character trait the anime establishes for her- her joy of the stakes. The rush of the gamble, the tense moment before you know your fate, not the result. That's why a!Yumeko seeks an even playing field and never cheats, and its because winning is only secondary to her. Or it should be. I want to see more of Yumeko losing with grace, not cry because Ryan won't let her endanger her life. I like her reaction to Ryan at the Gala because it shows her heart- she won't reveal whether or not she lost on purpose because she doesn't want Ryan to have second doubts about his win.
However I do recognize its an "inspired by" tv show, so I don't seriously mind the changes to her character, they're free to do whatever they want. Can't make me care much for her outcome though, she either kills 10 people and then doesn't know what to do with her life or they kill her first. I feel I care about Ryan finding confidence and self assurance, Riri finding herself, Kira breaking away from her family expectations and Dori's joy WAY more than I care about whether or not Yumeko gets to become a serial killer.
As always though, this are just thoughts. If you have a different opinion pls comment/message so I can read about it. I love different perspectives, after all its all hypothetical.
Can I say something. It is driving me up a wall that the damn Kakegurui club chip on Yumeko’s neck is on a silver chain. The whole thing is gold I’m gonna throw up why would it be on a silver chain.
"Loser is a House Pet."
Miku Martineau as YUMEKO JAMABI in BET 1x01, Game On.
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What are your thoughts on how they adapted Kirari to create Kira? Do you like the changes? Do you wish they did things differently?
Kirari vs Kira is a very interesting question.
I like that they’re both built on the same principles. The sick need to watch what happens when you give people the option to rise to power. The fish tank analogy, while not fleshed out in Bet remains the same as when Kirari voices it the first time in Kakegurui. There is an ecosystem, there is a balance hanging in the tank or the school from having predators and prey.
I like Kira’s weakness. Kirari was a little untouchable, her only real weakness was Sayaka’s undying love for her and some obsessive interest in Yumeko. Kira’s got monsters under her bed. She works to keep everything perfect and smooth so her facade doesn’t fall, so she doesn’t get hurt, and it makes her a lot more human, appealing in the way a dejected puppy is. I like seeing Kirari’s elements threaded into her. They share a raw skill in playing, they both can’t refuse a good gamble. I love Kira’s sick interest in playing for crazy high stakes just like Kirari does. She doesn’t NEED to play for her life. But Yumeko is so interesting to them both.
In Kakegurui, everyone’s scared of Yumeko destroying the council and the status quo, except Kirari. She wants to see her. Wants to see her effortlessly evade obstacles, level the playing field with her mind and her gumption and her desire for the rush that comes from playing. Kirari respects her because she sees herself in Yumeko, same drive and skill with no desire to manipulate the game to win. Just to play for the joy of it without someone having the upper hand.
Kira sees the same thing. Her speech to Yumeko in her dorm before house wars is raw and unfiltered in the same romantic way all of Kirari and Yumeko’s interactions happen. Except in Bet, Kira’s got less dignity. She’s not waiting for Yumeko to fight to the top to challenge her, she seeks out the glittery little jewel that entices her. Finds her. Drops the flag off in her room personally. And begs, in a subtle way. Choose me, want me. Everyone else is just fish food, and you’re a shark. Yumeko is a wild stallion she cannot saddle, and that scares her. If Kira had less interest in Yumeko’s affairs it might be easier for her to hold control.
I do wish Kira had moments where things were subtly under her control like Kirari. Yumeko failing at exposing a council member’s cheat because Kira steps in to intervene, but it’s not shown to the audience, only implied.
Of all the characters adapted into Bet though, I think Kirari -> Kira is one of my favorites, as well as Ryota -> Ryan. I do have bones to pick with Midari/Dory and the Mary changes, as well as Yumeko’s characterization. Lmk if you want to hear about them.
someone on twitter said what if Riri is Wendy and I'm kinda losing my mind over this suggestion because Wendy is not credited with an actress anywhere from what I can tell and it seriously looks like Anwen. Someone talk me in or out of it.
It is the same actress, yep.
I think it is useful for Riri to play a role of a pet in glasses to learn more information about anything, y'know.
Agree wholeheartedly. It does add a layer to Riri as well. I want to believe Riri loves Kira, doesn’t want her to fail and doesn’t want her to get hurt but if she IS Wendy then the knife she twisted doesn’t make it seem like she has her sister’s best interests at heart. She paved the way for Yumeko’s success, whether she meant it or not, but I don’t think it was accidental. She orchestrated Kira’s loss of control.
Then again, I think Kira’s stronger when she has nothing to lose. She fought for control for so long, she doesn’t have it anymore, but she does have a crazy loose canon on her side. Yumeko respects, maybe even loves, crazy. She loves it when Mary finally grows a pair and stands up to her. And she’s the only one who doesn’t avert her eyes when Kira loses her shit and chokes out her sister. Yumeko’s mentality is the End Will Justify The Means- and Kira seems to have the same idea. I want to see Yumeko’s loyalty to her friends tested against Kira. When there’s a choice to be made between getting what she wants and betraying her friends, who will she choose?
I think Kira’s going to create a dangerous situation for herself going forward- she’ll be testing Riri’s love for her while she fights her way back. How far would Riri go to defend herself? Is she really taking the seat for her own interests? Or is it just loyalty to her father, to get ahead in the world? Kira’s going to barrel through everything with Yumeko at her side and put a massive target on her back.
But maybe when they both have nothing, no one, left, they’ll have each other. When Yumeko makes a choice that turns her friends against her she’ll have Kira, and instead of being mean for once maybe Kira will offer her the comfort she’s always wished she had herself. I want the next time Yumeko’s sobbing and helplessly crying for Kira like she did on the floor over Gabriel for Kira to show weakness and pick her up into her arms. For Yumeko to have someone who wants to be there for her and knows the whole story.
And what of Riri’s relationship with Mary? What will Riri choose for herself- making her father happy or being seen and possibly loved for the first time in her life but someone who doesn’t have a vested interest in her power.
Although I think after having raked through these thoughts Season 2 will likely push us in a direction like Kakegurui season 2 did- there has to be an outside force for our characters to fight against because it would be deeply tragic to watch a slow motion car crash occur in the terms of Kira and Yumeko vs Riri and Mary to see who will rip who to shreds first.
Apologies for the mega thought dump it WILL happen again.
The scene where Mary is trying to catch up ti Riri to ask her to help her get back on the council.
My thoughts: at the statt she seems to be somewhat nervous when Mary approaches her, almost as if she is too nervous to talk to her. Similar to like a big ass gay panic like what the fuck this beaitufo woman wants to speak to me? Little ol me? What the hell?
Then when Mary is about to walk away, she is blinking very rapidly trying to keep her emotions in control. She wants to help her but she can't go against Kira, she has to choose between the 2 people she cares most about in the world. Either way one will be disappointed in her. (But she always had belief in Mary getting back on council since she 100% kept her jacket)
In conclusion, Riri is the biggest yearner
Riri is the biggest yearner!
I saw someone point out that Riri sits on Kiras right and Mary on Kiras left - which implies that Mary did a lot for Kira. She probably worked with Riri on those things which fits in with her saying they were tight on student council!
In the scene with the finger guillitone you can see Riri in the background and she looks nervous - you can see her slightly flinching when they cut the strings - but also hopeful. That girl seriously wanted her crush back on council with her so that she didn't have to pick between her and her sister!
(Don't think of how both Kira and Mary turn on Riri at the party. Don't think of how Riri did eventually have to choose and she chose to leave with Mary. Chose not to seek her sister out and try and sort things. Its only going to lead to heartbreak)
someone on twitter said what if Riri is Wendy and I'm kinda losing my mind over this suggestion because Wendy is not credited with an actress anywhere from what I can tell and it seriously looks like Anwen. Someone talk me in or out of it.
As a huge fan of both Kakegurui and Bet, I adored so much your headcanons about Kira and Yumeko❤ Especially those about Kira's fish affection reasons and her lovehate to father. Can you make more of Kira and Roni "home life" hcs? Like, is Roni in her mask at home? When Arkadi divorced Kira's mom? Her real attention to mom? If Kira got ill when dad needed her to be at a party or whatever, what happened - did her got angry or what?
I just liked your ideas so much, they are canon to me now.
Aww thank you I'm touched you like them! I'm happy to just talk about anything and everything so send me your requests and I'll work on them.
More on Kira and Riri's home life:
Regarding if Riri's in her mask at home- not but only around family, and Kira's mother does not count as family. She'd have it off in front of her father and in front of Kira, but draws the line around non-blood relations. I think just like Ririka, Bet's Riri pulls strength from having something hidden, the mask gives her protection that won't come from other places- her own mother is powerless against Arkadi, and Kira herself needs protection, so the only compatriot Riri often has is her mask.
A little more about the mask- I wonder if it came about because Riri is sensitive, gives too much away with her face. Kira got her father's poker face skills, Riri didn't. So her father suggested an alternative to save face from her quivering lip. Obscurity bringing her strength.
Kira learned all the skills required of a good little heiress: gambling, lying, smoothing over a political conflict, but also the little things that would make her sophisticated and presentable to ex-Soviet grandparents and endless aunts, uncles, and business associates asking about Arkadi's "perfect little girl". She was taught to sew, so she darns all of Riri's masks when her favorite one gets a rip from beating up a little kid on the playground in defense of her sister. Riri brushes Kira's hair because shes too upset to keep her hands steady enough to not prick herself. The habit develops, it grows into Kira spilling her heart to Riri while she brushes her hair. A little sister bonding time to soothe the nerves. Riri doesn't like killing, but she can't escape the mantle handed to her. She tilts her head down and does as she's told because it prevents her mother and Kira from getting hurt.
Responsibilities are a must. Unavoidable. Kira gets sick, the flu wracking her small 11 year old body with coughs and a wicked fever. Her father stands at the door to her room, and tells her she should've been more careful, that getting sick is for children who wont get anywhere in life because they're too weak to handle what life throws at them. Her mother sneaks her some ibuprofen and cough syrup, and she puts on her dress with glassy eyes, suppressing her coughs and standing as tall as she can for as long as she can at the gala or party to keep her father's eyes at bay. She fears the beating she'll receive if her appearance is anything less than perfect for her some politician's birthday celebration. She'll collapse later in her bed and be unable to sleep for the rest of the night anyway, shivers wrecking her body so hard she needs to clench to keep her teeth from rattling.
It does not go unnoticed to Kira that when Riri gets sick right before an important business merger many years later, their father suggests she stay home and recover her strength. After all, illness can't be helped, and Riri will be needed again soon- for important family matters.
I'll finish my thoughts on the family dynamic later- I haven't quite figured out what I think about the positions of Riri's/Kira's mothers and how they fall into Arkadi's and the girls' lives.
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