so i realize the problem that i'm having with this fic is that i actually have to write it
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so i realize the problem that i'm having with this fic is that i actually have to write it
i feel like what i'm about to do is really, really dumb.
but i'm gonna do it anyway.
i really forgot how much work went into coding this fic.
what am i even doing???
guess who just spent 3 hours coding this one part of this fic.
i was right. it was really, really dumb.
i feel like what i'm about to do is really, really dumb.
but i'm gonna do it anyway.
i really forgot how much work went into coding this fic.
what am i even doing???
i feel like what i'm about to do is really, really dumb.
but i'm gonna do it anyway.
I'm very serious when I say that everyone needs to become more jock right now. Because if you're not going to take the sports/athletes part in your SPORTS romance seriously then just leave the sports out of it.
Woke up still mad, so here we go. Two things.
I'm not expecting people to be extra like me and learn an entirely new sport because of a book or show or comic or whatever. I've been playing/watching/coaching sports for a long, long time. They will always be interesting to me. So, you have to understand that when you involve a sport in your story, it has to be meaningful. If your characters are athletes, and good athletes, you have to understand how and why it's important. You can't be like he's the #1 draft pick in the NBA or this guy was a quarterback of a Super Bowl winning team or this guy just lost to his actual teammate in the championship of the World Classic and not want me to want to investigate that?
Do not make the sport a character's entire personality and then take the sport away for their happy ending. I feel like this is obvious? And I get the whole "this sport isn't everything" thing, but sometimes it is. Sometimes someone just trains their entire life to succeed in a sport and it becomes a part of them. And they're supposed to just be regular after you cut out a piece of their soul?
Sighs, three things, I guess. Everyone has to do a little work. Readers and writers. I'm not expecting everyone to know all the history of every sport before, during, and after writing or reading a story, but my goodness if you want to play in a universe, fictional or not, you have to learn about it. I'm not saying you have to become obsessed, but you have to learn the basics, at least. Learn what positions are. Pick a team and learn why they have a blood feud with his one specific tem. Learn what a captain does. You cannot wade into a sports universe and half ass it because it feels incomplete. If there is a dark-side to sports, and there usually is, it just gets footnoted. Or somehow the dark stuff just doesn't seem as bad as it actually is. You can still get that happy ending, if the work is done.
Oh well. Still mad. Which probably means this doesn't make much sense.
Anyway.
Everyone become more jock immediately.
I'm very serious when I say that everyone needs to become more jock right now. Because if you're not going to take the sports/athletes part in your SPORTS romance seriously then just leave the sports out of it.
Parse does this thing.
just a thought but
bad bob zimmermann won his third stanley cup in 1978. he turns 57 in january of 2014 which means he was born 1957. he was 21 the third time he won a stanley cup with the montreal canadiens. 21.
he has won a stanley cup every season he has played since he was drafted at 18. and, in real time, the montreal canadians went on to win a fourth stanley cup the following season. four consecutive wins since he was drafted. since we dont know if the win with the pens in 1991 when he was 34 was his fourth or fifth or if he only played for the canadiens and the pens then it’s possible that bad bob won a number of stanley cups with a number of teams before retiring under the pittsburgh penguins
imagine living up to that
Why does my head say that he won four Cups? I mean, beyond the background in this comic:
Also, in looking for an answer about how many wins the most-beringed player had, I have to wonder if Bad Bob was just hanging out with Scotty Bowman his whole career. (Head coach for the Canadiens for their 76-79 wins, and worked for the Pens for their 91 and 92 wins.)
ymmv but i always thought they were passing a line of cups as they were heading for the rink (but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
anyway (this got really long. haha. oh boy.)
the panel where the pens’ 1991 win thing doesn’t say that it’s the fourth cup
as opposed to in this panel
where it says “third time”. plus, the first one says jack’s pooped in more than one cup since he was born in 1990 (i’m assuming at another one of these…photoshoots? idk) so im gonna run with bob has a little more than four (i could be completely wrong! way off! but w/e)
but anyway i figured, he was drafted at 18, 1975, and then won the cups with the habs, ‘76, ‘77, and ‘78. he could have still been with the habs during their ‘79 win. or he could have been on another team. this is around the time wayne gretzky (four years younger than bob) and the oilers joined the nhl.
that’s three cups or a possible four cups for bob
the years 1980-83 the new york islanders had four consecutive wins. bob could have been playing for a completely different team. but. i’m trash. so.
that’s a possible seven or eight cups. possibly.
1984 is when mario lemieux (nine years younger than bob) played his first season with the pens after being drafted from the q.
it’s also the year that wayne gretzky, good (fictional) friend to bobby (uncle wayne!), wins his first cup with the oilers. i figured bob must have played with wayne at some point between 1978 and 1991, since they are friends to this day (but, again, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
the oilers win 5 cups in seven years (’84-’90).
so if bob was traded/signed with the oilers after his hypothetical trade/sign to the islanders (at just the right time. or actually bad bob is a stanley magnet. or this is a giant reach). that makes a possible twelve or thirteen. (or not, but, henri richard won 11 in 18 years, so not impossible, right. laughing.gif)
in ‘91 he’s with the pittsburgh pens and jack is one. this is, presumably, where he met, and subsequently befriended, mario lemieux.
the following year in ‘92 the pens nab the stanley again.
a possible fourteen or fifteen.
possibly. completely hypothetical.
after this, the only reason for bob to be wearing a habs jersey after jack is born and kicking (as shown in the hockey prince panel where bob’s wearing the habs uniform, skating out with jack who must be older than two by then), bob must have been traded/signed to the canadiens. back to montreal.
guess who won the cup in ‘93.
the canadiens. they win the stanley in ‘93. it’s the canadiens.
bob had jack skating by then. so he would have been able to walk?/skate? out with bob in 1993. or after if bob was traded to the canadiens after the ‘93 win. but since i’m reaching might as well go big right.
so that’s a possible, completely hypothetical, ready/willing to be jossed, fifteen or sixteen cups.
in eighteen years. roughly. if i follow my completely made up and not at all true timeline.
afterwards he would have retired at around forty-ish (average age) under not-the-pens-maybe-the-habs, when jack is around 6/7 or later if he continued to play after 40
anyway. this is my headcanon for it (and honestly just because i’m trash. laughing.gif) so feel free to ignore because this makes jack even more sad and feeds my other h/c that jack opted-out of the draft in 2008 (when he was eligible for it) bc he felt a lot of pressure to win the stanley after his first season and keep winning and he didn’t feel ready just yet to be drafted and deal with that. (idk why kent didn’t. maybe they made a pact. maybe kent is a black hole where all events are displaced and time is skewed. maybe he wanted to get drafted with jack because he was stupid in love and he wanted to play in the nhl together at the same time. idk. maybe.)
then jack took too much of his anti-anxiety meds (he was already taking more than prescribed to get rid of the anxiety while playing) either accidentally because he had built it up in his head by then. he wasn’t ready last year, so he has to be ready by now right? why isn’t he ready, why isn’t he as good as kent, as his father, what if he’s drafted second? what if he isn’t drafted first round? what if he doesn’t win the stanley his first season? what if he isn’t drafted at all? and he just kept taking more and more and more to keep it under wraps.
or he took them with the intent to harm himself so that he wouldn’t have to deal with it.
either way. it means he was hospitalised and opted out before the draft (maybe under the advice of someone from the nhl or his doctor. giving weight to the line “the kingdom did not want him” because he believed he was, to quote Ngozi, a fucking mess). was in the hospital while the draft happened (based on the headline ‘top prospect leaves draft’ in parse part ii) and subsequently going to rehab.
but of course this is completely hypothetical. made up. not real.
…i think i just talked myself into believing this. wow okay.
…holy fuck.
me, every time ao3 is down: i really should use this opportunity to actually write.
and then i don't.
every time
Rereading a chapter 80,000 times and wondering if the pacing is actually off or I just read through the chapter 80,000 times.
I don't know if I agree with the statement that the difference between their playing styles is that Jack is heart and Kent is brains.
You are more than welcome to convince me of this. I can be swayed.
Maybe I'm thinking too much about their characters and not their playing styles and that's why I don't see it?
But would it really not translate?
Or, maybe, at the point in their careers when they're both finally in the NHL, this could be true because Kent's been in the league for some years now and has established himself as one of the smartest players in the league.
And Jack making it to the NHL after what he's gone through has shown a lot of heart?
But that still doesn't necessarily mean much in terms of playing style, right?
I don't know if I agree with the statement that the difference between their playing styles is that Jack is heart and Kent is brains.
You are more than welcome to convince me of this. I can be swayed.
Maybe I'm thinking too much about their characters and not their playing styles and that's why I don't see it?
But would it really not translate?
I don't know if I agree with the statement that the difference between their playing styles is that Jack is heart and Kent is brains.
You are more than welcome to convince me of this. I can be swayed.
Sweet hockey babbies
the thing is, though, some of us have been trying to have a conversation about politics and hockey for years. not trying to gatekeep, always glad to pull up another chair, but babe, let’s not pretend like the conversation just started.
complaining that other fic writers aren’t writing the fics that you want to read is like showing up to a potluck empty handed and bitching out everyone else there. btw.