Horizons/West is out now!
Making music is wild. I go through so many emotions during the process — the uncertainty and accompanying anxiety of having parts and ideas early on but not knowing what the whole will be, the elation of jamming those parts and ideas out for the first time and feeling them start to gel, the doubts around doing too little or too much to a song as you write it, the excitement about honing and fully committing to these songs before you actually record them, the myriad pressures of the recording process, the thrill of hearing the songs take shape as they’re properly recorded, the fatigue of hearing a song for what feels like the thousandth time and wondering if it’s really where it should be, and the joy of having a mixed and mastered record. And then … you wait. For months. Several months, that creep along at half-time. And then release day nears and you’re anxious and excited about people finally hearing something you put so much time and energy into. And then poof. It’s just out there in the ether. Forever.
I hope you’ll give Horizons/West a spin, and I hope there’s something within these 11 tracks that resonates with you, whether it’s sonically, lyrically, thematically, emotionally, or a combination of those things. I honestly find new ways to connect with it each time I listen to it, and I’m really proud of it on many levels.
Huge thanks to Scott Evans for not only doing an amazing job mixing this record, but for being a great friend and sonic sherpa of sorts as I worked through my ideas for these songs.
Thanks to Matthew Barnhart for mastering it and finding a way to make the dynamics of this record work as they should.
Thanks to Jordan Butcher for killing it yet again on our artwork and packaging. I love everything he’s done for us, but this is next-level. The deluxe version is mind-blowing in its attention to detail and execution. Can’t wait for you all to have it in your hands.
Massive thanks to our manager Ken for herding cats during not only this process , but always. Big thanks to Epitaph Records for sticking with us and putting out our records in this weird and ever-changing musical landscape. And thanks to my family and bandmates for putting up with my neuroses during the the writing and recording of this.
And finally, thank YOU for listening to, caring about, and supporting us. Being able to make music for people is a total gift, and I’m beyond grateful to *still* be able to do it and excited to *keep* doing it for as long as we can. We couldn’t do this without you all.
And now some stuff for the drum nerds. Sorry to make all three of you scroll all the way down here, but let's be honest ... if I put the drum babble at the front end of this post everyone would bail before the page even finished loading.
Actually, there isn't a ton to share about my drums for this record. [Price Is Right Loser Horn]
How many different kits and snares did you use on this record? A few? Several? A veritable shitload?
One-ish? I kept it really conservative with my set up. I used the same old kit (save a couple minor exceptions) and same snare for every song. The Q Galvanized Steel has been on every record post-hiatus because I love it and it tunes up so easy. It's punchy, and lively, and fun as hell to play. Great combo. My Q Copper Gentlemen's snare has also been on every record post-hiatus because it's like a Swiss Army knife -- works great in any situation, sounds awesome regardless of tuning range, and every audio engineer I've worked with legit loves it.
What about the cymbals? Did you use any of those cymbals that look like they were found at the bottom of the ocean? How many splash cymbals did you use? 7?
Nope. Lotsa Zildjian Ks. Lotsa Avedis. I did do a little bit of cymbal swapping, but nothing too wild. No tea towels or shell necklaces piled on stuff or swiss cheese cymbals or weird dingledangles hanging down like chandeliers for me to swing at. No bonkers mic placements, aside from uh ... sticking a mic inside a beefy aluminum stockpot on the floor and a stuffing a mic inside a piano. (I'm not even sure how much, if any, or that made it on to the finished product, but it's definitely A Thing We Did.)
Why didn't you switch it up for each song and get wild, especially since you were working in your own studio?
Because I didn't think the record really called for it. We experimented a bit with different setups when we recorded Horizons/East, but I'm not sure it really mattered as much as I thought it might have. And even though we're tracking drums in our own space I think Tone Chasing can get a bit exhausting, especially when it happens early in the recording process. Everyone's geeked to start making music and you're in the studio dicking with a snare drum for two days or scratching your chin and staring at a pile of drumheads for hours on end. It can be a real buzzkill. When we did East and The Artist In The Ambulance - Revisited in our own studio with Teppei engineering and Scott Evans mixing, I found a drum combo that sounded really good to all three of us and I just kinda stuck with it.
Which sample pack did you use? How did you fight the urge to run every snare roll through a phaser?
Heh. I cannot tell you how exhausted I am by all the sample pack-littered, hyper-gridded, zero-dynamics, same-sounding drums in rock music these days. It all so sounds so plastic and soulless to me. The goal with Horizons/West was to keep things raw and alive and huge but imperfect, and I think Teppei and Scott nailed the raw and alive and huge part, and I nailed the imperfect part (as I am wont to do). I know I said the drums on East were the best my kit has ever sounded on a record, but we legit leveled up on this one. I am so incredibly stoked, and I'm totally guilty of listening to just the drum stems from the record because ungh they sound SO GOOD.
If you've actually read this far, I owe you a high five.
Here are the specific drum details for each song. We used a bunch of mics whose names sound like droids from the Star Wars Universe. If you're curious about those mics and where we put them, LMK, but I'm not gonna list them all here.
Q Galvanized Steel Kit 24/13/16
Swapped 24” Ludwig Classic Maple kick for ending
Q Galvanized Steel Kit 24/13/16
22” K Light Ride (right side crash)
21” K Projection Ride (for bridge only)
Q Galvanized Steel Kit 24/13/16
21” Avedis Ride (right side crash)
Q Galvanized Steel Kit 24/13/16
Q Galvanized Steel Toms 13/16 w/ 24” Ludwig Classic Maple Kick
Q Galvanized Steel Kit 24/13/16
Q Galvanized Steel Kit 24/13/16
Q Galvanized Steel Kit 24/13/16
20” Crash Of Doom (left side crash)
21” Avedis Ride (right side crash)
Q Galvanized Steel Kit 24/13/16