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Y instead of X, C instead of Y

I was discussing the upcoming Superman movie on Discord lately, talking about how refreshing it was that Superman's iconic supporting cast was simply given new iterations ("Here's the new Lois Lane! Here's the new Jimmy! Here's the new Lex!") instead of being in-name-only'd as Spider-Man's iconic supporting cast has been in the last two reboots. Lois is still a hard-nosed reporter. Jimmy is still a goofball. Lex is still a rich megalomaniac.

Compare to the Spider-Man characters as of the most recent reboot. Mary Jane is a black Daria. Flash Thompson is a snooty rich kid. Ned Leeds is Ganke. J. Jonah Jameson is Alex Jones. And I got into how it seems that it's not enough for Sony/Marvel to just update the characters, they have to completely change them if they've been used before.

And as I was talking about this, I hit on the statement: It's like Marvel says "well, we already did X, so now let's do C instead. Not even Y. C."

As per usual, someone didn't understand, so here's a handy guide.

X is widely agreed upon source material canon. Superman is secretly Clark Kent, raised by Kansas farmers, now working at the Daily Bugle. Wonder Woman is from the island of Themyscira which is exclusively female. Peter Parker uses mechanical webshooters.

Y is functionally the same as X, but changed for the sake of streamlining continuity and allowing cinematic storytelling in the adaptation. Peter Parker has organic webshooters, for instance. This is not change for the sake of change, it's change that helps take advantage of the new medium.

For instance, Tobey Maguire's organic webshooters makes for humorous scenes of his webbing malfunctioning as he discovers his powers and his webbing not working when he loses his powers.

I had some hypotheticals to further illustrate what I meant. What if the Daily Planet was a cable news network and Lois Lane was a correspondent and Jimmy Olsen was her cameraman?

If you're like me, the Daily Planet not being a newspaper and Lois Lane not typing up articles is just bonkers. But, functionally, it's mostly the same and you could probably come up with some cinematic scenes that take advantage of them now being TV reporters.

What if Mary Jane, instead of aspiring to be an actress or model, wanted to be a singer? Functionally the same: she still wants to be a glamorous celebrity, she still probably does photoshoots and fashion stuff, but singing and performing on an instrument could allow you to do things that are more cinematic than her performing in a play or posing for a photographer. She could busk on the sidewalk as Spider-Man swings by, she could be practicing her instrument while Peter develops his tech to parallel their arcs... it takes advantage of this Spider-Man story moving and having a soundtrack instead of being still comic panels.

Which brings me to C, which is just the complete left-field stuff that makes no sense as an adaptation. Mary Jane being a reporter, for instance, even though that's not compatible with her attention-loving personality. Lex Luthor as an undercover Kryptonian in the CIA even though he's usually motivated by hating aliens (this one nearly happened thanks to J.J. Abrams). Jimmy Olsen as a CIA operative who's immediately executed even though he's usually not executed in most comics (what is it with DC and the CIA?). Just radically reinventing the canon for no other reason than "This ain't your dad's Superman movie!"

So I try to accept Y changes, no matter how weird it would feel to have Lois Lane be a TV reporter, but I won't apologize for not accepting C, because C is only done out of shame about not being the first adaptation of the source material.

#superman #Spider-Man #Marvel #dc comics

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#april o'neil #teenage mutant ninja turtles #tmnt

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"You're an anomaly! You were never meant to be Spider-Man!"

"Wait, what? People are meant to be Spider-Man? It's not just random chance?"

"No!"

"Because I thought the whole thing with so many different people being Spider-Man or Spider-Woman was because it was random--"

"It isn't! People are meant to be Spider-Man!"

"Okay... why?

"What do you mean, why?"

"Basically you're saying everyone who becomes Spider-Man is the Chosen One, right? And they're prophesied and the prophecy is canon events...?"

"...essentially."

"So who's, you know, choosing people? God? What if it's some powerful villain like Thanos and it's all part of some evil plan?"

"It's not!"

"How would you know? And to what end? Why does there have to be a Spider-Man? What does that accomplish?"

"It's simple. Spider-Men keep universes from blowing up! And they keep them from blowing up by having canon events happen! Canon events like someone they're close to, who is also a police captain, dying while trying to save a kid!"

"Seriously?"

"Yes."

"But seriously."

"What's the prob--"

"That seems pretty arbitrary for the fate of the universe to hinge on. Aren't these things usually... virgin sacrifices, seventh son of a seventh son, that sort of thing? And what counts can be either your FATHER or the father of your current girlfriend? That seems really... I mean, that's loose as hell, isn't it? Does it have to be a police captain? What if it's a special agent in the FBI, does that count? A lot of countries don't even have police captains. In the UK, they have chief inspectors. Does that count?"

"Well, if a police captain IS going to die but quits his job, then that averts the whole thing with no universe implosion."

"WHAT?"

"Yeah."

"WHAT?"

"Look, it's..."

"So you can just trick the fundamental forces of the universe like you would pretend to throw a ball with your dog and REALITY ITSELF will be fooled by the person who has fated to die CHANGING JOBS?"

"Look, we're getting off-track here. The important thing is that you're an anomaly! You were never meant to be Spider-Man!"

"Yeah, you said that--why do you think I care?"

"Well, you know... it's a shocking twist..."

"You kind of obliquely mentioned this 'people are meant to be Spider-Man' thing five minutes ago and you've been trying to kill me ever since. I really haven't had time to process this. It has nothing to do with my characterization or sense of identity at all. I've really only been interested in this Spider-Society thing as a way to get into Gwen's pants?"

"Really? That's your only investment in the chief plot point of our movie."

"Yeah. I just don't give an eff. My triumphant character arc is me not caring about this thing I've never cared about or had any reason to care about, ever."

"Look, could you just do me a favor and pretend to be emotionally devastated by this? This is our Empire Strikes Back, 'Luke I am your father' moment. You're supposed to be rocked to the core."

"Uhh... I suppose I could be pissed that Gwen betrayed me for not immediately explaining all of this and instead waiting a few hours to explain it in a calm, safe environment? Which I suppose would be the best way to prevent a bunch of unnecessary violence, but she probably should've somehow guessed that you inexplicably hate me for not being a real Spider-Man... wait, if I'm not a real Spider-Man, how come the canon event thing applies to me? And does Peter count as Gwen's Uncle Ben? But Uncle Ben was Peter's father figure, while the Prowler was trying to kill me... is it just someone you know dies? Is that as precise as FATE needs to be? Or did Gwen not have the canon event--"

"You can't expect this to be fully thought out."

"We're spending two and a half hours on an incredibly long first act. The entire point of first acts is to establish the stakes and set up the conflict. If after two and a half hours, people still don't know what the plot is, you're bad at writing."

#spider-man #miles morales #across the spiderverse