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I have been a huge Harry Potter Fan in my Childhood. Harry Potter was the first book i enjoyed reading. I won a reading contest in my school witha part of the first Harry Potter book. I wanted to become an author in fourth grade because of the books. I wrote my own fantasy story based on the books and i loved pottermore when it first came out. I can emphasize with the Harry Potter Fans who dont want to let go of the series because it means so much to them like it meant so much to me as a child. Often in online debates people get very defensive. Short snappy comments are better for the algorithms and its easier to hate people who still like Harry Potter despite knowing what J K Rowling political stance is on many issues. But I believe you cant convince anyone by just attacking them so here are some general thoughts from me on losing something you used to really really like. Im german and in Germany we have some very old children stories called Struwwelpeter. They seem very cruel to modern readers. A boy for example gets his thumbs cut off because he keeps sucking them. As a child these stories were very disturbing to me. Later i learnt that this story for example was written in a time where children often would die because they would get diseases from sucking there thumbs. Medicine was not evolved enough to save these children and the concept to keep children save by scaring them seemed like a good idea. The fairytales, a lot of people only know the disney version of, many of them also have a more cruel ending for similar reasons. Why am I bringing this up? Context matters to a story. Harry Potter wasnt a perfect story that got ruined by Rowlings tweets in the last few years there are many bigoted ideas in Harry Potter from the beginning. Also just because you liked something as a child it doesnt mean it was very good media. Lets talk about behaviour therapy shall we. The whole idea of behaviour therapy is that you can become a happier person if you change your behaviour (very simplified). The process of that however means a lot of times, that first you are going to be struggling or unhappier then before. Change is never comfortable. Humans love to stay in there behaviour patterns they know and new things are scary. But in the end behaviour therapy does work! If you get over your discomfort you will develop healthier coping mechanisms for example and you will get better. Now back to Harry Potter. Yes it is uncomfortable and sad to admit something you love isnt as good as you thought it was. Yes it can also feel embarassing to admit you were wrong. But to change is to grow. It might sound over dramatic talking about a children book series like this, but giving J K Rowling more money does cause real harm for people (especially trans people) in the real world. Also my concern is if you cant let go of a book you really like how far will it go? What about a person you admired that turns out to be bad for you? What about a political party? Its not nice to be wrong but its something we all have to learn to live with and its ok. You will be fine. This post is specifically about harry potter fans that are not transphobic, terfs or agree in any other way with Rowlings political views ofc Here are some youtube videos about things being wrong in the original Harry Potter series:
(you can also search harry potter bad on youtube for many many more videos)
we didn’t start the fire. no we didn’t light it, but we tried to fight it.
Book Hermione
Here it is, canon evidence that Salazar Slytherin was NOT a racist bigot. He was concerned for the well-being and safety of the magical community, which could have been compromised by letting the “common people” know that wizards and witches existed.
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Shoutout to this fine lady for bringing this to my attention. Let’s further the argument: Hogwarts was canonically founded around 990 A.D. - The Christians were finally taking hold of Scandinavia, meaning that all of Europe was now Christian. It was towards the end of the Dark Ages, or else the Early Medieval Period, which (In Europe) was famous for its intolerance of non-Christiandom, which included the teachings of Ancient Rome, Greece, and of course any Eastern countries. People were publicly defamed and in many cases killed for as much as considering these old ideas and teachings. These teachings really didn’t come back to light until the Italian Renaissance in the 14th century. So when people did things the Christians couldn’t explain, they blamed it on Witches; people they believed to be inhabited by the devil, sent to earth to wreak havoc on every God-fearing man, woman, and child. So what did they do? Imprison or kill those people. Now, here comes Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, and Slytherin, who all agree to take pureblooded witches and wizards and teach them. But then they have to discuss magical folk who aren’t born from magic folk. Gryffindor is brave and brash, and imagines the glory of having an entire society of witches and wizards with great command of their powers. Hufflepuff is kind and loving, and wants to provide a sanctuary for all those who are under duress from the population at large. Ravenclaw sees the merit in bringing all these different people together - the amount of information regarding magic that can be shared is the stuff of her dreams. Slytherin is cautious. He recognizes that there is a great possibility for individuals to play spy for the Muggle community, in hopes to gain favor by outing them all the while hiding their own powers from muggles. He sees them as a potential threat, and instead of risking the safety of not only their own lives, but the countless volumes and tomes of ancient wizarding knowledge tucked away in their castle (see The Burning of the Great Library at Alexandria), Slytherin says “I really don’t think we should allow people with connections to Muggles in here. We could lost *everything.* Gryffindor calls Slytherin a coward, saying they would fight back and beat down any who try to oppose them. Slytherin suggests they do all they can to avoid confrontation. Hufflepuff can’t bring herself to deny that sanctuary she’s built. Ravenclaw sees endless potential in bridging that gap between worlds with learning. And this is what drives them apart. Future racists and pureblooded elitists will take and twist Slytherin’s words, having heard only the story that has been passed down for a thousand years. They use words of caution to justify their want for genocide. Slytherin isn’t the bad guy, here. And I am so down for clearing his name.
To continue the crusade to clear the name of Salazar Slytherin, I have more evidence for your consideration. This is regarding the Chamber of Secrets. Now, the scene pictured above is one of Harry’s slightly less dull History of Magic classes, in which Professor Binns is asked to talk about the Chamber of Secrets. What we get from him is that the Chamber is a myth. There is legend surrounding it, no one is sure if it exists, etc etc etc.
Here is the VERY NEXT PAGE in the book, in which Professor Binns again admits to the Chamber (as we know it today) to be a complete myth. We find out, obviously, that the chamber isn’t a myth, but I believe that the purpose of the chamber has been fabricated over a thousand years by misinformation and slander. Let’s check it out. Rowena Ravenclaw, Helga Hufflepuff, and Godric Gryffindor all know Salazar Slytherin and say “yep, he’s an upstanding man. Let’s start this school with him!” For a number of years, they had a school together and it worked out great. What we know is that there was a falling out, not Slytherin declaring they needed to murder muggle-borns! A disagreement that may have ruined friendships but did little else, I think. What we know is that one of Slytherin house’s key virtues is self-preservation. As I discussed earlier in the thread on this post is that Slytherin was afraid of muggle-born witches and wizards acting as spies for the larger muggle community during a time in which wizards and witches were killed for their “demon powers.” And so, when it comes to the Chamber of Secrets, I believe Slytherin built a Panic Room, not an Evil Lair. Think about it. Slytherin is horrified that any day there might be an attack on the school. So he builds a secret chamber that only he (or another parseltongue, an incredibly rare magical ability) can open. He doesn’t want any double agents or spies to know about it, so he tells no one. He hopes, of course, that he never has to use it, but in the event that there is an attack, he can get the school to safety while he sets the basilisk on the attackers. But I’m sure you’re looking at the basilisk and thinking “what sane man would put a monster in a panic room?” Glad you asked. I can consider two possibilities. 1) Slytherin put a basilisk that was under his control in the chamber, a creature that he could set loose on his enemies, aka, anyone attacking the castle. The basilisk would annihilate any army of thousands just by looking at them, and what’s more, it could get almost anywhere in the castle through the goddamn walls! That kind of power is exactly what you need to defend your castle. And again, ONLY HE or an heir could control it. I’m sure at this point he was thinking about himself and his potential progeny, not Tom Riddle some thousand years later. 2) Slytherin didn’t put the basilisk there, and it was instead placed there later by Tom Riddle while he was at school. I don’t have evidence supporting or disproving this. So how does this get so misconstrued to modern-day Hogwarts lore? Maybe toward the end, the founders did find out about the Chamber. Maybe Slytherin said something to them, maybe he let it slip…maybe as they were cleaning out his room after he left, they found some journal entries about it. It could have been anything. But perhaps, in their wisdom, seeing no way to access the chamber, felt it best that no one knew about the existence of a (now) useless panic room, nor did they want anyone to worry about the basilisk. Maybe word *did* get out, though. And not one of the founders wanted to admit that Slytherin didn’t trust their students, and so to most of the student body, Slytherin’s departure was suspect. And the moment they heard about a secret room that no one was quite sure about, they started inventing campfire stories about it. Fast forward ONE THOUSAND YEARS and now everyone assumes Slytherin was always evil (despite being a good friend and founder of Hogwarts with three other lovely people) and created a secret evil lair to murder muggle-borns, which he could have easily done without a lair if that was *ever* his intention.
Thank you so much! I’ve been looking for this post. I always felt like Slytherin being a horrible evil bigot never really made any sense historically speaking, and it just doesn’t add up. Although I have to say I don’t put much stock in option 2. The dude could talk to snakes. And as Hagrid will happily tell you, a creature being scary and “monstrous” doesn’t make it evil. Why couldn’t he be a Hagrid, with a fondness for big “misunderstood” creepy crawlies? Having a basilisk doesn’t make Slytherin evil in and of itself, any more than Hagrid having an acromantula makes him evil, even if most of wizarding society would condemn him for it. Obviously popular opinion isn’t always accurate.
The conservationist and history nerd in me feels a pang whenever I think about how much of a loss that basilisk was. I know it was being used for murder and that it needed to be stopped, but it’s a knee-jerk reaction to such a huge loss of knowledge. That thing was alive a thousand years ago. It knew one of the original founders of Hogwarts. Any parselmouth could have spoken to it and asked it what things were really like in those days and gotten a first hand account, but unfortunately the only person to speak to it in a millennium was an idiot who only thought about killing people. Did he even think to ask its name? Nagini clearly had a name, but he never refers to the basilisk by name. That’s just… really sad to me.
I think a lot of people forget that Slytherin house is more than just self-preservation too; loyalty is a core value. Slytherin’s message is about protecting your own more than nearly anything else. Slytherin pushes unquestioning acceptance of and loyalty to your fellows, regardless of blood status, even in Harry’s day, according to their welcome message on Pottermore. You very rarely see a Slytherin making a disparaging remark about another Slytherin. You do see even the most bigoted Slytherins (like the Malfoys) being supportive of Slytherins who are much lower on their little social hierarchy than them (like Snape). In Salazar Slytherin’s day, I think he would have extended that loyalty to the whole school and the other founders. They were “his own”, and he would have wanted to protect them.
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just a fun friendly reminder that snape tried to get sirius' soul sucked out, even though he knew sirius was innocent!
No he didn't know what are you on about. How could he know? They changed the secret keeper last minute and the only people who knew about it was Sirius, Peter, and the Potters. If Snape knew about the Fidelius Charm he would have attacked Sirius himself first, to save Lily. He only knew about the prophecy. After the Potters were killed, the only people who knew about the secret keeper being changed were Peter, Sirius and Voldemort. And since Snape didn't meet any of them after that there's no way he could know about it. He believed it was Sirius like everyone else and tried to get his soul sucked out in revenge for having killed Lily.
I think you might be basing it off the assumption that Dumbledore knew about it but even Dumbledore didn't know. He testified against Sirius. He believed Sirius to be guilty till he heard the full story from him in POA.
“The train rattled onwards, speeding them out into open country.”
Rupert Grint as Ron Weasley Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2009)
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3rd year x battle of hogwarts (parallels)
Weasley is our King, Weasley is our King, He didn’t let the Quaffle in, Weasley is our King… Weasley can save anything, He never leaves a single ring, That’s why Gryffindors all sing: Weasley is our King.
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I wish someone would make a good movie/tv show/whatever telling Malik Kafur's story, like just an honest effort at telling the journey of the first known openly lgbt person in India's history with sympathy and respect and not as a homophobic caricature and plot device
He was Indian, he was born in Maharashtra. He was born Hindu and later converted to Islam. Please at least read his wikipedia page before you come to pick fights on the internet.
You are the one who is making this post about something that it is not. This was a post about Padmavaat and how it doesn't do justice to Malik's story, and if a film does get made I would want it to be nuanced and as historically accurate as possible. I still think it is a story worth telling and that is my opinion which I don't need to justify to you. And for the record, I am Indian. Not that I see why it matters, please take your tumblr hall of minorities nationalism elsewhere.
@coffeewithyoungho
he still supported someone LIKE Allauddin Khilji. he was a traitor, he helped him out too. no point in making someone like him an icon. its going to get worse for indian lgbts
@kingweaslee
That is literally Allauddin's page lmao and that not even the point. you didn't even know Malik was Indian, you literally went from calling him an invader to calling him traitor once you found out he was actually Indian and you are talking history. you jumped on my post without even knowing the first thing about him to what? Prove that a random stranger on the internet is problematic? Who even called him an icon i just said i wanted a movie made on his life. You didn't call me out on shit. Fuck off.
Just a tip, don't go about picking fights on the internet about things you know exactly nothing about or you will end up looking stupid like this everytime. You literally screenshotted Allauddin's page when the conversation wasn't even about him. Just to set this straight here's the screenshot from Malik's page
BJP supporter or not calling the Musilm rulers invaders is a very popular BJP/hindutva talking point to support their Islamophobia. And the fact that you call him a traitor shows very clearly who you identify as Indian. Either way I am not interested in having a conversation with you anymore, goodbye.
@coffeewithyoungho
I wish someone would make a good movie/tv show/whatever telling Malik Kafur's story, like just an honest effort at telling the journey of the first known openly lgbt person in India's history with sympathy and respect and not as a homophobic caricature and plot device
He was Indian, he was born in Maharashtra. He was born Hindu and later converted to Islam. Please at least read his wikipedia page before you come to pick fights on the internet.
You are the one who is making this post about something that it is not. This was a post about Padmavaat and how it doesn't do justice to Malik's story, and if a film does get made I would want it to be nuanced and as historically accurate as possible. I still think it is a story worth telling and that is my opinion which I don't need to justify to you. And for the record, I am Indian. Not that I see why it matters, please take your tumblr hall of minorities nationalism elsewhere.
@coffeewithyoungho
I wish someone would make a good movie/tv show/whatever telling Malik Kafur's story, like just an honest effort at telling the journey of the first known openly lgbt person in India's history with sympathy and respect and not as a homophobic caricature and plot device
yes, because representation is important and everything you mentioned was the norm of being a ruler/administrator at that time, that is how mediaeval India worked. He himself was a slave and sex worker. If you want to cancel him according to Tumblr standards and refuse to read any historical context into the story of a historical person go ahead, it's not like he cares. I just want a movie that doesn't use him and his sexuality as a plot device and is sympathetic to telling his story as it is. @coffeewithyoungho
@hogwartsonline love event || Harry Potter and Ron Weasley
“He must’ve known I’d want to leave you.“
“No, he must’ve known you would always want to come back.“
The Harry Potter reunion got me feeling some kind of way (hideously sobbing)
We all like to joke about how nobody who was at Hogwarts with Harry Potter would be able to learn anything because of all the monsters and dark wizards and shit attacking from all sides, but like, when you think about it… your average Hogwarts student never actually sees that.
I mean, until the battle at the end of Book 7, the climactic points of Harry's adventures have tended to happen either in areas of the school where students aren't supposed to have access or outside of Hogwarts altogether. And in general the only students directly involved were Harry and his little clique.
So like, for the average Hogwarts student, it's more like… you still get a basically normal school experience (albeit with the odd spate of petrifications or megalomaniac Defence teacher to worry about), but also there are these three kids in your class who are just super weird.
Like, one of them is kind of famous, and you'd assume he'd be popular because of that, but he pretty much exclusively hangs out with the class braniac and that one kid with all the brothers, and doesn't really have any other friends. The three of them are practically joined at the hip, and spend most of their time sitting together having whispered conversations that stop the moment anyone else passes by, and then resume only after they've walked out of earshot. You're pretty sure you overheard the word "death-eater" once or twice.
Then during the end of term assembly, when the headmaster is covering all the last notices like who won the Quidditch Cup, and how the frog choir got on at regionals, he suddenly stands up and says "and let's have a big round of applause for Harry, Ron and Hermione, from the First Year, who last week defeated the reanimated soul of wizard-Hitler after he possessed a staff member!"
And you're all just sort of clapping along like whatthefuckwhatthefuckwhatthefuck and then they win the House Cup and you all go home, and literally nobody ever mentions this incident, or the apparent return of wizard-Hitler, or the fact that he can possess people now, ever again.
And then next year it starts all over.