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it really bothers me how both antis and blmatsus feel a lot more insufferable compared to the ones pre-covid and I genuinely don't understand how that happened

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maybe it's a bit more noticeable now since I'm grown but western BLs nowadays 😂😂 It feels like a lot of you wouldn't have survived being in the fandom during the s1 through s2 hiatuses

it really bothers me how both antis and blmatsus feel a lot more insufferable compared to the ones pre-covid and I genuinely don't understand how that happened

blmatsu shippers need to stop letting antis live rent free in their minds when it comes to their opinions on season 4

#you cannot genuinely think s3 is better than s4 with your whole heart #if you got introduced to osomatsu with that season. be so fucking for real

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i left for like two years only to come back with south park content, i’m so sorry but not really

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Happy holidays everyone!!!

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Bible and salt warning

I love the concept of the Kim-Mari-Chloe stuff, but the way it’s being implemented into the show is super bad and lazy and worrying for Kim’s character.

I mean, the bible literally said that Kim is ‘unknowingly at the root of Marinette’s problems’. From what I can tell, that whole thing is entirely Chloe’s fault. Kim just kind’ve existed as Mari confessed and Chloe did s1 Chloe things. CHLOE is at the root of Marinette’s problems. That actually makes sense bc she’s been doing bad things to her since s1.

I can already feel that the Marinette stans (and possibly Asstruc himself) are going to try and blame Kim for whatever is shown in Derision and there’s gonna be a bunch of Kim salt going around.

Also this is waaaaaay too late in the series to be revealing it to the audience, especially if you want us to care about it. The confession has been ‘important’ to the plot since the very beginning. Pretty much every single ep has some bull about it. If this was really important and not something made up on the spot to make ppl feel bad for Mari, it would’ve been revealed in s1 or 2 and the main 3 involved would’ve shown that it happened since the beginning through words and actions.

There’s even a perfect ep for this reveal; Dark Cupid. Kim confessed his crush to Chloe and Mari encouraged him to do so. Just have Mari mention how weird it feels to see Kim confessing, then Alya asks about it, then Mari explains. Could even have Mari, Alya, and Max watch the confession and when Kim gets akumatized, Mari is sucked back into the reality of how different her life is compared to when she was confessing to Kim. This could’ve actually been really good if it wasn’t just created to make ppl feel bad for Mari.

#right?#if there was any possibility that mari and kim had crushes on each other #that should've been shown WAY earlier in something like S1 or S2. it's far too late to reveal that in smthin like S5 #it could've made sense that they would've probably had crushes on each other if they interacted more too but #shrugs #what can you do I suppose #i'm not ready for more of the inevitable kim slander too lmao

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As much as I understand that the ML fandom is like shipping culture first, everything else second, I think it's doing a huge disservice to the plots this season and how some of y'all are taking them tbh

Like yeah, relationship and romantic love are a huge part of the show, but so are friendships and platonic love.

And some people are looking at all the characters actions through solely the romantic lense and that's just not how it works. Not all of the scenes or character motivations are based in romance.

Like yes, Chat had a right to be upset that she told her identity to someone and did not tell him, but him being scared of losing her and that being the main thing he was emotionally stuck on makes complete sense with his history. And it's not a "I'm scared the lady Im in love will leave me to have a future boo hoo"

Yeah, Chat is in love with Ladybug, but he also genuinely loves Ladybug.

She's his best friend, his first friend.

And this is a child who lost his mom less than two years prior, and essentially is losing his father in current time, and as much as he doesn't want to acknowledge that, it's happening.

Adrichat has abandonment issues, even if he doesn't realize it.

So the actual event of suddenly, and without warning, losing his best friend, is gonna hurt. A lot. It's going to effect him.

Even if she came back in the end. And while she was able to temporarily calm those fears

Rocketear is the episode following this.

The annoying comment happens immediately after this episode. (As does the revelation that she's actively hidden the fact that Carapace and Rena know each other's identities from him as well)

A comment that's directly mentioning how Ladybug feels in general about him, and it came from his other best friend. Who knows Ladybug pretty well at this point.

It's not coming from a random civilian that's assuming and speculating on the bits and pieces of their interactions that're public. That would be easier for him to mentally unpack and set aside as over-exaggerations.

But it's not.

It's coming from Carapace.

It's coming from Nino.

There's no reason Adrien wouldn't think that Nino's telling him the truth.

And while they (Nino and Chat) made up at the end of the episode, that comment was never resolved. Obviously, because Nino doesn't know that Chat knows he said that.

But, for Adrien, it's left him with a clear impression that both the closest and most important people in his life find him annoying.

And it's super likely he just assumes they never told him that to his face before because they're genuinely nice people. They're not like his father, they wouldn't want to hurt his feelings like that.

But now he knows and he's going to take that comment to heart as a real, actual criticism, rather than something said in a fit of anger in private between two besties.

Adrichat tries so hard to make people happy, and to keep those he cares about happy with him, because from past experience he's subconsciously learned that if he's not being the person they want, he'll be left alone, or worse, he'll be punished. (taken out of school and completely isolated from the outside world.)

That's what his father has taught and shown him, especially by using his public schooling as a constant leverage to keep him in line.

While to us it's been a lot longer, this show has only shown a few months of their lives.

He was 14 when the show started and he is still 14.

Ladybug and Nino's positive emotional influence, while helpful, has only been there for a fraction of his life, and even now it's small, increasingly rare parts of his day.

The rest of his life and the rest of his waking time is still being conditioned and emotionally manipulated by his father.

While Ladybug did say she'd never leave him, now (to him) he has to ensure that he never goes over that "Annoying" line or maybe she'll rethink that.

And it's not that Ladybug doesn't care, and if anything, I think this ending conversation explains why she's more concerned about his comment about doubts in the end of Rocketear, cause they just came off of having an emotional conversation.

But she doesn't know that he now believes she finds him and his jokes annoying. Because if she did, she'd set it straight.

However, Chat is not going to happily initiate that conversation. Likely ever.

1, because (to him) there's a very real, terrifying chance that she'll agree with the comment.

And 2, because emotions in general are seen as dramatic and obnoxious in his household. It's something talked down to and dismissed by his father.

He's not going to come out and say he's upset because the very notion of being upset has been ingrained into his as an annoying trait.

Like a lot, if not all, of Chat's issues stem directly from the fact that he's currently living in an extremely emotionally and mentally abusive household.

And they're all 14, they're babies. They're not trained Psychiatrists who know how to identify, unpack and deal with the ongoing ramifications of being abused.

Not to mention, none of them know as much about his relationship with his father as we do. They don't realize his relationship with his father is worse than what's let on, especially because Adrien doesn't realize it either.

Ladybug very, very slightly knows he has some sort of family issue. (Mainly from his comment in The Bubbler) but not on the degree that she's fully realized it's abuse. She's not accounting that he might have trauma from being in an abusive environment because she doesn't know it's bad enough to count as an abusive environment (and neither does he.)

He's not going to tell them every bad thing that happens because he loves his father, it would feel like betraying him. And his friends already don't like him, so he knows that he has to be careful with what he says cause otherwise they'll end up hating him.

He doesn't want that, because he loves his father. He just wants to be enough that he'll love him back.

He's not going to wake up and happily accept one night that "hey, my dad doesn't love me and is an abusive piece of garbage. Guess I'll stop basing my entire daily life on making him happy with me." And just go on rebelling and talking back to his father. Frankly, it's a ridiculous, insulting thing to be asking of his character.

That's completely disregarding the fact that Gabriel is not just a "bad" parent.

He is an abusive one.

Gabriel is his abuser.

And things like this take time, and in a lot of cases, children in abusive households don't realize it's abuse until after they've become adults and left said household.

He cannot do that.

He's 14. He cannot leave. He has no where to go that Gabriel wouldn't be able to find him.

His life, his job, his schooling, his finances, his protection of the rabid fans he's got, all of it ties back to Gabriel.

Gabriel controls every possible aspect of his life (that he's aware exists) and leaving means losing all of that. Not just losing his last living parent.

It's a huge problem in abuse situations, that the victim has no other option but to stay because they've become reliant on the abuser, where it be emotionally, financially, housing wise.

And Adrien, as a 14 year old child, is entirely reliant on his parent.

#ml spoilers #wonderful post op #salters shippers everyone alike is letting the ~romance~ live rent free in their heads #and its just #no! stop! look at the platonic interactions first!

hating a shitty fictional character =/= supporting it irl 🥰✨🌈 you clearly think the way people engage with fiction has no impact on their irl morality so why do you care if people hate adrien hmm?

does this sound like i care if people hate on him? all i said was WAIT until people got the FULL CONTEXT to know what’s happening, rather than to base your judgement on a HALF-SHOWN script.

please use your critical thinking skills, i am begging you

#and why did you bother wasting your time on sending me this?#you could've just ignored this like everyone else did?#what are you doing? do you feel good about yourself trying to look like the better person by attempting to look like you're in the right?#because all you look like is pathetic #especially for being an ass under an anonymous face #show yourself and i'll be willing to actually discuss this with you if needed. :)#i'm not even that popular! you have nothing to lose except for your time if you want to chat about this

if you’re trying to use a HALF-SHOWN script to justify hating on adrien/chat noir, when you have no full context of what’s happening....shame on you