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Me at any mention of Patroclus and Achilles in the Iliad:

👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 gay sHit👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌gay shit right👌👌th 👌 ere👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my selｆ 💯and i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠＯOOＯOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ(mo)👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌GaY shit

#tagamemnon #lgbtq #patrochilles #patroclus #achilles #the iliad

thoodleoo

talking about the history of domestication of horses in the class i volunteer for at the barn tonight and of course i had to bring up the polidoxus mosaic

thoodleoo

like imagine loving a horse so much that not only do you commission a mosaic of him but, even though he's a racehorse and his job is to win races, you have the mosaic say "whether you win or not, we love you"....bro humans just love these funky fast boys

thoodleoo

very glad ancient roman historians are not alive today because i'm not sure i could handle the inevitability of suetonius describing augustus and livia as malewife and girlboss

Back from my minor breakdown to say ✨happy Saturnalia✨ folks

castellankurze

…WE HAVE BEEN INTO HOUSES WHERE THE CHILDREN HAD MANY TOYS AND BROUGHT THEM EVEN MORE TOYS, AND IN HOUSES LIKE THIS THE CHILDREN GET PRACTICALLY NOTHING.

“Huh, we’d have given anything to get practically nothing when I was a lad,” said Albert.

BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU’VE GOT, IS THAT IT?

“That’s about the size of it, master. A good god line, that. Don’t give ‘em too much and tell ‘em to be happy with it. Jam tomorrow, see?”

THIS IS WRONG, Death hesitated. I MEAN…IT’S RIGHT TO BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU’VE GOT. BUT YOU’VE GOT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT HAVING. THERE’S NO POINT BEING HAPPY ABOUT HAVING NOTHING.

Albert felt a bit out of his depth with this new tide of philosophy. “Dunno,” he said. “I suppose people’d say they’ve got the moon and the stars and suchlike.”

I’M SURE THEY WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE PAPERWORK.

“All I know is, if Dad’d caught us with a big bag of pricey toys we’d have just got a ding round the ear hole for nicking ‘em.”

IT IS…UNFAIR.

“That’s life, master.”

BUT I’M NOT.

“I meant, this is how it’s supposed to go, master,” said Albert.

NO. YOU MEAN THIS IS HOW IT GOES. […] IT IS HOGSWATCH, said Death, AND PEOPLE DIE ON THE STREETS. PEOPLE FEAST BEHIND LIGHTED WINDOWS AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE NO HOMES. IS THIS FAIR?

““Well, of course, that’s the big issue-” Albert began.

THE PEASANT HAD A HANDFUL OF BEANS, AND THE KING HAD SO MUCH HE WOULD NOT EVEN NOTICE THAT WHICH HE GAVE AWAY. IS THIS FAIR?

“Yeah, but if you gave it all to the peasant then in a year or two, he’d be just as snooty as the king-” began Albert, jaundiced observer of human nature.

NAUGHTY AND NICE? said Death. BUT IT’S EASY TO BE NICE IF YOU’RE RICH. IS THIS FAIR?

- ‘Hogfather’ by Sir Terry Pratchett. Not the most oft-repeated part of the book, but one worth rereading.

snugglebearinc

caffeinatedmusing

1. L’ange du mal by Joseph Geefs

2. Le genie du mal by Guillaume Geefs

Here’s the wiki article on them.

spiritsdancinginthenight-deacti

The cathedral administration declared that “this devil is too sublime.” “It compellingly illustrates the Romantic era’s attraction to darkness and the abyss, and the rehabilitation of the rebellious fallen angel. The chiropteral wings, far from inspiring revulsion, form a frame that enhances the beauty of a youthful body.”

roamngreenwoods

unexpected wisdom from a 1950s Oresteia translation

madqueenalanna

i’ve seen classics takes that are factually incorrect, ignorant, racist, misogynistic, and just plain weird, but i have never in my entire career come across anything as deranged as “hector is a privileged murderer and achilles is the victim in their relationship”

clodiuspulcher

I think it’s also quite absurd to talk like achilles has no agency when 1) there are multiple characters in the iliad who not only have no agency but either lament said lack of agency (Helen) or have no speaking lines at all and are literal objects over which the Greek INVADING ARMY argues (Briseis) and 2) the entire iliad hinges on Achilles’ exercise of his agency as the most important and greatest warrior the Greeks have (?!)

macrolit

“It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.”

— Valis, Philip K. Dick

dionysiusi

When I find myself in times of trouble, Theognis comes to me - speaking words of wisdom:

I am a beautiful and prize-winning horse

mtolympusmemes

Artemis: It’s bad enough my brother slept with half of the sorority this year, but now he’s lifeguarding at the club and every divorcée and cougar in town is asking me for his number. My twin is a manwhore and I’ve become his pimp.