defiled by divinity

dead dove

[cheeseburgers4life]

[lenoue]

can someone from the hsr fandom explain phainon and mydei to me pls i am not allowed to do gambling adjacent activities and cannot play the game but i've been seeing lots of phaidei art and i want in

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not one to get commonly chime in streamer/ytber drama but i smelt mizkif's defamation suit coming from a thousand stinky miles away when emiru was so careful to dismiss any abuse she didn't have absolute proof about as "well that's not important" "that doesn't matter right now" which I'm sure was a very solid advice from her lawyer

every instance of abuse she disclosed has either electronic evidence as live video replays, discord texts, or witness statements of her friends and staff members being threatened on her behalf. so many people assumed she was being too forgiving and kind to him to not speak negatively on his character but that alone makes her case 10x stronger. (tbf he's already shot himself in the foot in his video by not denying any allegation, just adding "well she threw a plushie at me too" so he's a fucking moron on top of being a piece of shit)

it sucks balls that victims have to be so careful when publicly speaking up against their abusers, since they have to worry about legal retaliation on top of physical and societal consequences. however, the right amount of documentation and restraint can be so, so handy in the eyes of law.

[cyberdelph]

by @HiddenPeace2008

[mahawavy]

[purplewhippet]

what have you two done

[lenoue]

has no one noticed the desolate tear drop on the dangerous crow boy? it begs the question of how much toll the plastic destruction must be taking on him. is it a particularly emotionally taxing job? is he betraying himself and his values to earnestly destroy the plastic? does seeing the forbidden sparkly plastic dress mean something of import to him?

[lenoue]

mystery solved folks it's the mark of an official licensed plastic destroyer

[lenoue]

any samjack + wincest thoughts? <3

gonna have to be real with you anon i do not think of samjack enough to have very solid thoughts on them, but samjack and wincest under one roof is very comedic to me. dean being alright with the new addition until he realises that sam genuinely prefers spending time with jack because he's getting the chance to introduce someone to this world like he wishes someone did for him, that the world isn't just made up of teeth looking to tear you up.

jack would just inherently be drawn to sam for reasons he does not understand. what he does understand is that there are meant to be different affections for different people in life. he doesn't know one from another. he asks about it to sam. turns out to be a mistake. sam is not the right person to ask this, for reasons that sam would rather not get into.

i think we know that dean's possessiveness knows no bounds but it's funnier to me if he can't at all articulate to sam why he's being possessive this time cause he genuinely cannot comprehend what to make of samjack.

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Yeah, I'm right there with you...it says Shang had Nice going around killing the Phobiaclone defects to raise his trust value, but mmmmm, the fact fear could, theoretically, turn Wreck's glitch ability to graffiti suddenly reveals that fear could be used to change powers...but idk if Shang's fear research has advanced as far as Micky's...also, the fact Nice went to Shang to help him with being infected with fear...has he seen whether Shang has a cure for it? and Shang was very much not concerned if Nice did get infected...it is a little weird how "fighting Wreck and killing Phobiaclone" can manufacture a persona of perfection ngl. You'd think advertising would do that. So why not just say that? It's also strange because Shang has been running Phobiaclone experiments before Shang Chao died and there was a gap year between when Nice became a hero and when Shang gave him and Wreck their scripts so hmm. Idk, it just always bothered me how short of a time it took to make him all shifty and murdery. Civilian Nice didn't show any of those traits. How do you influence a guy that bad?

You've raised a veryy interesting question anon, why did Nice think that Shang De had a cure? And why did Shang De not give a fuck if Nice was infected? It's not like he was behaving all composed and stable in the warehouse, dude was losing his mind and he just let his very recognisable hero roam around like that for hours ? and send miss J after him? Matter of fact, we see everyone who's got chemical fear on their skin turned in seconds, if not minutes. Nice was.. okay for hours.

And yeah I found his choice of words odd too, tho it's probably the closest confirmation we'll get that Wreck was using fear for his power but then it would have to be some insanely stabilised variant. idk, Wreck's powers are fascinating to me. strong enough to change material reality, not a hero so no trust value but wasn't on the commission's radar?

I was discussing with someone today that Shang De probably orchestrated the plane crash to get Split's body, so he was definitely going all in on the fear research.

My best guess? Nice was an experiment to develop a stabilised organic fear driven hero. Enough manipulation and grooming to keep him under his thumb, but enough power to not have to rely on public opinion or self belief. Probably upped the ante, pushed the speed after his son dies. Now he needs revenge faster than results.

I honestly hope this isn't true because this means all of this would've happened to Nice no matter what. Change any player or the game, Nice still ends up losing.

[t4tvampireisms]

I had this vision of Jack mixing up universes in a weirdcore, fever dream type fashion 👁️🌎💫🍄

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i try not to think too hard and long about the implications of "i used fear to build your identity" because on one hand shang de may have been referring to the phobiaclone shenanigans and i try not to stray too far from the occam's razor buT the worm lodged deep in my brain says it could be far more sinister than that because if i consider the show in retrospect, everything we know and see about Nice is him displaying something in the line of anxiety, terror, or it's variation.

that he made the choice to jump off -> that he had ocd and anxiety that could only get more intense -> that he feared losing his mentor -> that he feared losing his identity -> that he feared he could kill his idol -> that he feared he couldn't kill his idol -> kills his idol anyway, fear comes true -> loses his mentor's trust, fear comes true -> loses belief in his identity, fear comes true

it makes sense why there's organic fear sludge seeping out the fractures in his body. It's neither lab grown like shindig and nor amplified by one event like bowa (though i think it's more similar to that than not), it's fear that's been festering in him for 6 years or more (if the flashback was literal and not metaphorical) and it's been the only thing holding him together.

orr this is all a piss poor theory and shang de/spotlight org really did pick up his decomposing flesh and put it in a bubbling cauldron

[polari]

just got a call from the american psychiatric association. you old dogs, i said, picking up on the first ring. how many times i gotta tell you to lose this number. i don’t want you coming around here anymore. “listen, toots, we’ve been doing some thinking,” they says, and i says, guess there’s a first time for everything. “you’re a real funny dame, sugardoll. reviewing criticism, we’ve determined that the biggest issue with our previous diagnostic and statistic manuals of mental disorders is the anonymity of it all. we’ve been circling around a vague figure of the mentally well without defining the traits of a mentally well person. there’s no personality. what we need is a cute broad with a couple opinions to model the psychological norm.” so i’m saying back up and give it to me straight: i’m the new standard of sanity? can i get that in writing? and they say, “as the american psychiatric association we hereby state that you are the baseline and any deviations from your personality are deviations from the very concept of sanity, at least in the united states psychiatric system.” they’re making it public tomorrow. it’s a nice gig, if you really want to know. never thought they’d let a woman do it.

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my vehement distaste for dean winchester is directly proportional to the number of times someone has posted a screencap of this grown man of a character being terrible, deplorable and downright condescending and added a caption that says "spn moments of dean being queer/sam's mother/jack's mother/his mother's mother/little wumbly fumbly baby/world's most pitiable orphan" and this has happened a concerning amount of times

[lenoue]

cuck chair cas

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just found out that samdean share a blood type

currently mourning a scene of dean pulling out a tube with a cannula out of fuckass nowhere and shoving one end directly into his vein and the other into sam's, who's rapidly losing color in his face

[lenoue]

a thought floating in my head like a tumbleweed

in a universe where Shang Chao didn't die and Shang De never had any reason to raise Nice as his harbinger of fraternal vengeance but since he'd still be just as obsessed with fear research, wouldn't it just make perfect sense for him to go for Wreck, the company assigned bad guy who tends to go free reins more than he should, orchestrate his death by another Treeman hero's hand, prop him up as a cloaked shadowy fear puppet to be ultimately be defeated by a Nice who had no idea who is it under that cloak up until he'd already ran the enemy through with their own sword. hah. well.

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Contrary to popular belief, I don't at all think Nice would have reached top 10 under Miss J's management and this is not to discredit her top tier skills and how she's basically holding the Treeman ecosystem together by a thread.

Lin Ling reached top 10 twice because he has, what's called in the current job market as, "high agency". He makes decisions with his own will and doesn't wait on hand and foot for the next instruction because A. he has experience working in a fast paced industry where you need to make autonomous creative directions and should need little to no micro management and B. he has an ability to connect with common men and their motivations (as seen in wolf girl arc). His unique factor was that he was very earnest in whatever he did, and wasn't trying to uphold company image.

Nice seemed like he was conditioned to work on Shang De's behest and without a firm hand on his shoulder guiding him around, he's prone to fumbling. This is not to say that he has no agency. It's to highlight that his agency was never fostered well. From what we see, Shang De pulls his strings by mixing in the anxiety of losing something or another. Which can kickstart his gears (space ship) or paralyse him with fear of consequence (smile arc). It's a very gambler style of management if you think about it. Can't say if this fear makes him too self involved or his self involvement amplifies this fear, either way, it's a trait unbecoming of a hero (Hell, dragon boy reached the top cause he was community service oriented)

When Nice asks himself "did fear make me weak?" he was right. fear (the feeling, not the substance) did make him weak.

And now we'll see if fear (the substance, not the feeling) makes any difference.

But basically my point is, Nice could've never reached top 10 after Shang De's influence. He literally never had a chance in life.