[lilarabthot]

listen if u only love women for their bodies it kinda sounds like you're reducing them to their physical traits doesn't it :////// making them into objects :///////// kinda like how the patriarchy does :://///////

No actually, people are attracted to bodies, physical and sexual attraction is normal and not pathological. People are attracted to bodies as well as personalities, anyone who pretends like physical traits don’t matter (especially traits that are literally antithetical to your orientation, like dicks are to lesbians) is a liar. Or asexual, I guess.

I also don’t know where you get the “only for their bodies” part, no lesbian has ever said that and if anything it sounds more like a projection of your own sexual issues to imply that being attracted to something/someone means inherently objectifying them.

[lilarabthot]

please get raped, faggot ass retarded bitch :) i hope you got molested as a child you insufferable subhuman faggot.

lmao wtf

[femalesfuture-deactivated202102]

YOU are the ones who's tryning to change the definition of homosexuality especially lesbianism. Being a lesbian is about loving women unconditionally and when you love their souls, their energies, their minds, their personality.. you'll realize that it doesn't matter whether or not they have a typically female body

[lilarabthot]

why want someone with actual corporeal boobs when you can have metaphysical and spiritual ones? minds are so powerful 💙

(but fr if I’m supposed to be attracted to a “spiritually female” person then why do transwomen get surgeries to mimic a physical female body? Like is your female aura not strong enough to transcend petty things like having no vagina? Why would you even want one when woman energy is much more important)

[sovietpostcards]

Soviet Women’s Day postcard by M. Papulin (1973)

[punkjabi]

[dangeroustyphoonwasteland-deact]

i want this to be my only post

[guccixcucci]

Francophobia!!

[mybloodrunsrad]

I LOVE THIS SONG

[lilarabthot]

@bitchylobster​ 

No one said it was ugly, just commented on the fact that the French *unapologetically* colonized half of Africa, sapped it of it’s resources (human and natural), and to this day claim you “made it better” (because of course everything they touch turns to gold, I mean France is basically the cradle of civilization right?)

And the fact that all you had to comment is “bUt ToUristS?? we make CHEESE and cRoissanTS??” only confirms everything the original post implies. 

Not very radfem-y, you should maybe consider changing your bio lmao

[lindamarieansonsnaps]

[lesbianherstorian]

a logo of the detroit gay liberation front, 1970

[pikafem]

who designed this?? this logo is pure genius. it’s such an elegant way to encompass all the lgb sexualities and the connections between us.

the venus symbol on the left only intersects with the other venus symbol (= lesbians); the venus symbol in the middle intersects with the other venus symbol and the mars symbol (= bisexual women); the mars symbol in the middle intersects with the other mars symbol and the venus symbol (= bisexual men); the mars symbol on the right only intersects with the other mars symbol (= gay men).

i want to see this logo more often to represent lgb solidarity!!

/btw this is my personal interpretation of that logo, feel absolutely free to correct me if i’m wrong :)

[donthitanybody]

The “drop the T” crowd, I see.

[appropriately-inappropriate]

This predates your weird tumblr gender fandom by like, forty years. Catch a clue.

[mybeautifulpoland]

Bielsko-Biała, Poland by Artur Sobolewski

[misandrylandry]

After Thousands of Women Object, Male Student Withdraws from Women-Only University

KR – Seoul, Gyeonggi-do. Following a petition from women all over South Korea that gathered 10,000 signatures within a day, including at least 1,000 from Sookmyung University, a transgender …

[blocktostaysafe]

[gettingzen]

Look at Korean women protecting their spaces and getting shit done unlike in the US where TIMs have infiltrated almost all of the women only colleges. Western women really oughta take notes.

[radicaly1]

this is amazing THIS IS HOW WE GET SHIT DONE

[shin-rvujin-deactivated20200330]

IM GONNA SCREAM MY MOTHER THINKS TRANS WOMEN ARE JUST MEN WHO ARE PEDOPHILES AND WANT TO BE MORE APPEALING TO YOUNG CHILDREN WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

[kukoyi-deactivated20210512]

Your mother is a very smart woman.

[lilarabthot]

too bad her daughter is an idiot

[cocksmasher69]

radfem ideology is a seed planted by conservatives. open your third eye gullible bitch.

My third eye is my pussy and my pussy is at maximum power. Open your fourth butthole dipshit, gender isn’t real

[yassss-black-diaspora]

[deputy-shayy]

They always say radical feminism is “conservative” when it literally has nothing in common with conservative ideology and began as the result of living in a conservative society as a counter movement for the liberation of women from men. Goddamit. You are all so stupid.

[lilarabthot]

cocksmasher my queen come back to me 😭😭

[dykepolitic]

time to reiterate my Thots on trans women and lesbianism because if one more person calls me a terf I’m gonna scream

First, let’s evaluate how attraction works. People are not attracted to gender. If someone I perceive as male asks me out, I will say no. If they say they identify as a woman, I will still say no. Identity has no bearing on sexuality whatsoever.

HOWEVER.

Nobody is attracted to just genitals either. Lesbians don’t date trans men, and if someone I was dating came out to me as a trans man, I would quickly but politely break up with them. So if it isn’t identity and it isn’t sex, then what determines physical attraction?

Secondary sex characteristics. Things like fat distribution, breasts or lack thereof, Adam’s apple or lack thereof. Pretty much things that aren’t inherently sexual but still let our brain know “this is a man/this is a woman.”

So, knowing this, is it possible for a lesbian to be attracted to/date a trans woman? Absolutely.

Trans women are women and can be lesbians. There, thays my opinion.

However, knowing the genital preference debate, there’s a lot more nuance to be had. While trans women are women, their experiences and medical needs will be greatly different from “biological” women. In a census, wouldn’t it be much more concise to make the distinction? (Ex. trans women are at risk for ____ makes a lot more sense than “women are at risk for____”)

Also, lesbians inherently do not like dick, as it is a male sex organ. Is it possible for a lesbian to be in a sexual relationship with a trans women despite the penis? Yeah, of course. But is a penis something lesbians will inherently desire and should accept? No.

It’s a nuanced issue so there no quick way to sum up my thoughts, but I hope this makes my opinion a bit clearer !

[aurorevallee-deactivated2020070]

your “thots” are homophobic and galaxy-brained.

Men don’t have secondary sex characteristics similar to women. Even men who take horse hormones or men who have surgery.

[kadinlaraicin]

People like OP be arguing that women who have broad shoulders, atypical fat distribution, a rather angular (“”“male”“”) face wouldn’t be attractive to ssa women while thinking that a TIM with hips would inherently be more sapphic than an androgynous woman 🤔

[dykepolitic]

shoulders aren’t one of the things that determine if you read someone as male or female lmao. You don’t magically have X-Ray vison when you look at a person, you don’t see their genitals. There are a combination of things that cause your brain to interpret someone are male or female, but chances are, you can’t see their chromosomes when you look at someone.

[lilarabthot]

really? So if you fuck a fat guy with moobs/gynecomastia what percentage of gay would that be? Or a short guy with little body hair? I mean if it’s only secondary sex characteristics then there has to be levels to it, since there’s many of them and many people are a mix. Being attracted to drag queens is therefore less straight than being attracted to manly and hairy men, right? 

(i’m not going to go into the history go trans men/gnc dysphoric women in the lesbian community because it might break your brain but stay woke)

[dykepolitic]

@lilarabthot

Ma’am are you trying to tell me that when you look at someone you see their chromosomes?

how are y’all literally misinterpreting everything I’m saying. your brain reads someone as male or female not based on their genitals or how fem/masc they look but based on things you can see. believe it or not, you can’t always tell someone is trans.

woman doesn’t equal feminine??im literally butch, and the girls that are attracted to be aren’t “less gay”

[lilarabthot]

You said attraction and sexuality is based on secondary sex characteristics not primary ones (they’re called primary for a reason but whatever). 

Therefore being attracted to someone like an intersex woman who has certain male sex characteristics (like a beard, flat chest, etc.) would be “less gay”, or straight entirely since some can pass as male. Or does that only work with transmen? You’re the one claiming it’s based on what you see, not me. 

Lmao you can’t see chromosomes but you can certainly see a dick. If I go on a date with a “woman” and find out he’s a man then I’m going to immediately drop him because I’m a lesbian and not attracted to men and dick. Thats how sexuality works, you’re never going to pretend away that genitals are a fundamental part of sexuality. No lesbians are attracted to or “neutral” about dick, that’s called a bisexual.

And again, lesbians can and do date trans men and that debunks your entire argument. Women are women not matter how masculine they are or how many drugs they’re on.

[dykepolitic]

@lilarabthot

I mean..we do kind of agree. If I go on a date with a trans woman and find out she’s trans, that relationship definitely isn’t going to continue. I also agree with you when you say that no lesbian is attracted to dick.

if I look at someone with a beard I’m probably going to register them as male. It’s the way my brain is wired to perceive gender. Flat chests add more nuanced, because they’re not an inherently fem or masc characteristic. A woman with a flat chest still looks like a woman. and since you brought up intersex people, what about the few whose genitalia isn’t strictly male or female? Chromosomally, they’d be of the male sex no matter what due to the Y chromosome being present, so would that make all intersex people male by your definition?

And lesbians don’t date trans men ! Trans men have dysphoria and may desire to physically transition, which includes hormones that greatly change fat distribution, hormone patterns, etc, and surgery, which definitely alters the way they’re perceived. So no, a lesbian dating a trans man wouldn’t exist because lesbians don’t date men (and on that subject…what if said trans man has had bottom surgery? What then? Is there a line where the theoretical lesbian is no longer a lesbian?)

[lilarabthot]

You said that lesbians can have happy sexual relationships with TIMs so you clearly don’t think that lesbians aren’t attracted to dick. You can’t have a good sexual relationship with someone when you’re not sexually attracted to them lmao. Lesbians aren’t attracted to males and will never have healthy romantic/sexual relationships with them and to say otherwise is conversion therapy rhetoric.

Breasts are a secondary sex characteristic, like facial hair, hips, Adam’s apples, voices, etc. so yes a flat chest would be a male characteristic. The whole point was to illustrate that many (or even most) people don’t cover all of those, and some are more obvious or pronounced than others. Which is why secondary sex characteristics are a useless definition of sexuality unless you’re claiming that everyone is bi to some degree, since they can be attracted to many of those characteristics. An according to that definition, dating a woman with ambiguous secondary sex characteristics would be “less gay”. An on that topic, changes in reproductive system/genitalia is also part of the secondary sex characteristics so….

Intersex people are still either male or female, and either way that’s .018% of the human population that non-disordered TIMs/TIFs have nothing to do with.

It doesn’t matter what lengths a woman goes to to imitate a man, she’s female and therefore at least some lesbian women will be attracted to her. Hairy women are still female, women who had mastectomies/flat chests are still female, women with deep voices are female, women with high testosterone are female, etc. and lesbians still have the capability to be sexually attracted to them. Straight women don’t. Trans men have historically been a part of the lesbian community and some still call themselves lesbians (because they’re female and attracted to females, so, you know, lesbians), I don’t know where the denial is coming from.

I really wouldn’t bring up TIFs’ bottom surgery in your case because almost nobody is attracted to that straight or gay lmao. It’s an extreme body modification (mutilation you could say), not functional genitalia. You’d be hard pressed to find women of any orientation that see a picture of those surgeries and go “yeah that’s hot”.

A “theoretical lesbian” is no longer a lesbian when she’s attracted to males. Thats the line.

[dykepolitic]

okay for some reason I can’t reply to the reply of someone going “so what you’re saying is that you would fuck buck angel” because yeah.

Trans people are in relationships though? Like obviously people are attracted to them. And lesbians have been in relationships with trans women? I don’t want to be the person that cites stone butch blues but I am. Lesbians have different experiences and it’s not fair to disqualify some.

And you were the one who brought up intersex people. My point was that, on a base level, not factoring in genitalia, personality, life, or anything that could be a dealbreaker, it is possible to pass a trans woman on the street and find her attractive. Because your brain would perceive her as female. You can’t whip out a textbook and measure the length of her scapula or clavicle, you can’t x-ray into her pants or get a karyotype of her chromosomes.

I’m not 100% sure on the argument you’re making about “if everyone was attracted to various secondary sex characteristics then we would all be bi”?

Butches who bind still look like women? women who might have some masculine characteristics still look like women? Secondary sex characteristics are summative and the visible signs of someone’s gender. If your brain picks up on them, it’ll identify said person as male or female. There’s an insane difference between a gnc woman and buck angel or kalvin garrah.

[lilarabthot]

No I wouldn’t fuck Buck Angel because she’s not attractive, and neither would any straight woman on this planet because she’s female. Although in many cases I do think it’s fair to say that the majority of people willing to date trans people are bi, since straight women only like males and most lesbians are going to be put off by the excessive hair/balding. 

Trans people are in relationships with people that are actually attracted to them. Lesbians don’t date males, every “lesbian” that's been in a happy relationship with a male is bi. Lesbians have different experiences, and none of those include being attracted to men (which TIMs are).

yes, If I see something that looks female and vaguely attractive across a bar while I’m drunk then I might say “that girl is hot”. And that's where it ends, because the second I find out he’s not a woman all of my attraction will be gone. Because I’m a lesbian and lesbians aren’t sexually/romantically attracted to men. I went over this 20 paragraphs back. I’m not going to eat chicken because it’s shaped like a block of tofu and dyed white, it’s still fucking meat. 

Sex is black and white (99.99% of the time). Same with sexuality, you like one or the other or both (and that is how sexuality works whether you redefine it or not, females attracted to only females will still exist). Trying to define sexuality with secondary sex characteristics is a failure because there are dozens of them, many people probably don’t fit into all in their respective sex. “idk whatever sex you interpret them as” isn’t a definition.

You’re vastly overstating trans peoples ability to pass lmao. Kalvin Garrah doesn’t look much different from any butch lesbian, and she’s shorter than me ffs. I do think it’s much easier for TIFs like Buck to pass though, even if you’re 5′5″ and have a feminine face as long as you have a beard most people will instinctually refer to you as male. TIMs are a different story though, I think the only two TIMs I’ve seen that genuinely pass are Kim Petras and Nikkietutorials (because they were transed as young boys before puberty.) The successful and famous ones end up looking like a surgical attempt at a Bratz Doll (like Gigi Gorgeous), and the ones that can’t afford things like FFS generally just... don’t pass. Hiding male characteristics is harder than hiding female ones. Any trip to r/transpassing or really any trans tag will tell you the same (and those are their best pictures with the best angles lmao).

Anyway, would you say that a female dating a female who’s intersex/has a condition that causes male traits (beard growth, lack of breast development, masculine muscle structure/fat distribution, a deep voice, etc.) to be straight/bi? Because that's the actual question.

[leblogdebrillante]

Hand : «Deux mamans qui s’aiment, où est le problème», clame Amandine Leynaud

Alors qu’elle défend son titre mondial avec les Bleues à partir de samedi, la gardienne Amandine Leynaud nous parle de sa femme et de leurs jumeaux. Tout en douceur.

Si c'est sa femme Annabelle qui a porté et mis au monde leurs enfants, Amandine a dû composer avec les nuits difficiles. « Ils ont fait leurs nuits très, très tard, à 19 mois. Si ma femme est en or et a su me soulager à des moments importants, j'ai pris mon rôle de maman très à cœur. Être maman, c'est le rôle d'une vie, on a forcément plus de forces pour ses enfants que pour soi-même. Mais des jumeaux, c'est le double de travail ! C'est aussi 450 couches par mois, ça fait peur quand on y pense ! » Elle ajoute : « Tu n'as que deux bras, tu ne peux pas les porter en même temps et du coup tu as toujours l'impression de ne pas donner assez ! »

[the-exercist]

Only eating your BMR (which is how many people erroneously reach the conclusion that they only need 1000-1400 calories per day) will only give you enough calories to sustain a coma. That’s it. If you want to get out of bed and exercise, eat more. Eating under that caloric requirement will cause a person (of any size or shape!) to sustain some significant and scary damage. 

The average adult requires 2000-2400 calories in order to live a safe, fulfilling and healthy lifestyle. The typical adult should not be eating under that unless you have spoken about it with your physician and your diet is being actively monitored.

[whenallelsefailspanic]

Misleading! 1200 calories a day will produce a significant enough deficit to produce weight loss.

[the-exercist]

Of course it will lead to weight loss - That’s because it is not nearly enough food to sustain the average, active adult in a healthy manner. The only way that your body can compensate for the shortage is by losing fat. And muscle. And hair, nails, sleep, blood cell counts, your menstrual cycle, bone density, healthy skin, a safe blood pressure, hydration levels, regular bowel movements, the ability to feel warm without raising your thermostat to 75 and wearing 3 sweaters, a healthy relationship with food…But sure, yeah, you’ll lose weight too.

Your BMR is only enough to keep you alive. For anything beyond that, you need more food.

[bitterbadfem-harpy]

I want to shove this in the face of every nutritionist I’ve seen at the VA

[appropriately-inappropriate]

The average adult does NOT need 2000-2400 calories unless they’re extremely active. Caloric intake is based on the size and sex of an individual.

A 5’0 woman will require vastly fewer calories than a 6’0 man.

Honestly now. Your advice is bad, OP, and unsourced. 2400 calories. Jesus.

[lilarabthot]

I remember that a from like 2 months ago when someone claimed that most women need 2500-3000 calories a day lmao. I wouldn’t have time to leave my house ever, that’s like 6 meals a day. 

[appropriately-inappropriate]

Even their own sources don’t agree with them. This is the female chart from their own citations:

It doesn’t even approach 2400 calories, and the only time you see 2000 appear is in the 19-25 range, when young women finish their physical and brain development, and become physically active as a result of environmental factors (college/first job).

Like, what the fuck. Why spread misinformation?

[lilarabthot]

maybe if you’re an olympian that many calories could work for you but for a student/office job... nah, I’d feel terrible. And even if in some way weighing 200-300 pounds was peak performance, I just don’t think it would be comfortable to weigh that much. Running, bathing efficiently, standing for long periods of time, stuff like that. If being closer to 100 isn’t killing me I'd rather stay where I am, I feel good the way it is.

[lilarabthot]

I have a question. You mentioned that I was intersexist from what I said yesterday and I would really like to know how I can avoid ever repeating the same mistake. Can you please help me avoid being intersexist in the future please?

@interinfo has a bunch of resources including an intersex masterpost which is a really good read, @not-your-intersex-pawn also has good posts on the topic. I’m not intersex so I don’t have the insight or experience that they do but as a general rule: Don’t spread misconceptions like “sex is a spectrum” or “some people have both sets of genitals”, neither are true. Many intersex conditions are damaging health wise, and most intersex people are infertile. It’s a medical issue not a third sex. Don’t use hermaphrodite (it’s an outdated/unscientific and offensive term). And probably avoid using them in arguments about trans people, since they’re separate issues (vast majority of trans people aren’t intersex). Intersex people are around 0.018% of the population and have their own problems as it is.

I think it would be good to message an intersex person if you want tactual firsthand advice though. Good luck.

[terfspleaseinteract]

Actual question: why do you call yourself a feminist if you cater to male demands?

[appropriately-inappropriate]

“Given your support for self-identification and medical intervention to address body dysporia, would you support providing anorexic patients with liposuction in order to better reconcile their internal and external senses of self?”

[parelmoer]

Like what was dior trying to imply with this “if women ruled the world... would buildings resemble wombs?”. That to be a woman you must have a womb? That wombs are essential to womanhood and that women are baby factories.... I am truly lost.

[opabiniawillreturn-deactivated2]

lmao fuck off. just because some (females) don't have wombs doesn't mean they aren't something that connects us all

[yassss-black-diaspora]

Its funny how men sell, kidnap, trade little girls, young women older women because they are viewed as baby factories or the fact that men kill and or leave their wives because they cannot bare children, but the minute the idea of women loving the fact that they hold the power to create life then its Problematique and need to be cross analyzed.

[lilarabthot]

“women being proud of/inspired by their bodies is bad and misandrist blah blah blah.” anyway skyscrapers are high key ugly most of the time, I’d be into the change.