I've come across a couple of very...interesting tweets regarding the fandom's favorite scapegoat and honestly it's nothing new really.
I've also recently got into a confrontation with a bee stan calling me homophobic and a pedo pro shipper (yaaaay I finally got called by weak strawman arguments!) because I called Yang "blonde Adam" and made the usual criticism of how Adam was turned into an incel to prop up bumbleby and to sweep the faunus racism under the rug. I won't bother showing screenshots of the argument I had with this person on Twitter even with their username blocked because they don't deserve the attention.
Anyway to get to the point, from this argument I had with this individual along with the tweets I saw wishing violence on "Adam stans" it got me really thinking about how bee stans and rwby stans as a whole respond to Adam. Again, this dead horse is nothing new and yes, I will take my turn to beat it.
I find it very curious when it comes to the topic of Adam, both bee stans and general rwby stans conveniently overlook his connection to the faunus racism plot and instead hyperfocus on him being the big bad abuser to Blake. When you try to argue about how Adam's role as a radical revolutionary was fumbled and how poorly racism was handled, they will dodge the statement and instead deflect with "yeah yeah the racism was handled poorly, BUT YOU'RE STILL DEFENDING AN ABUSIVE GROOMER!!!!! HE DESERVED TO DIE!!!!"
It seems as if they would rather not acknowledge the bigger elephant in the room with how Adam's character was handled because either 1). It makes them uncomfortable, so they pretend his reaction to his oppression from humans doesn't exist or they downplay it. Or 2). They're too blinded by their projection of their own trauma on Bland the Cat they refuse to see Adam in another facet and instead focus on the "abuser/groomer" part and just call you an abuse apologist. Like, they do know Adam didn't have to be written as a "groomer" right? Right?
At the touch of your soft breath
My heart finds a place to rest
And you surround me
An angel blowing into me like the wind
The warmth I gained from you changes me
I'm not afraid anymore, because you're by my side
Because you won't lеt go of my hand
You're saving my life.
EXO - Butterfly Effect
Been thinking about how Adam's outfits, especially the second one, read as so closed-off to the world?? Like very much "don't touch me" vibes which given his backstory makes a ton of sense but at the same time, cutting off all touch also removes friendly touch, if that makes sense? And how that absence of friendly touch would affect him in ways that he doesn't realize. I hope I'm making sense.
Anyway, interested to hear about any thoughts you might have about this. 👀
I love how closed-off his outfits make him look. Full coverage, always gloves, the most we ever get is a sliver of his collarbone in that plunging v-neck. But it's still asymmetrical, which, y'know, is ripe for some metaphors about presenting an uneven and highly curated version of yourself. Wearing black and red so the blood doesn't show, covering yourself head to toe and wearing a mask because it's not about you, it's about what you represent, and what you represent is the semblance and the violence that makes it dangerous.
I just. The gloves, man, the gloves. Even in casual moments (the Adam short with him and Blake on the roof), he's still wearing them. It's pretty goddamn clear he doesn't want anyone touching him or even perceiving him in a way he can't control.
It's like he covers himself in symbols to further obscure whatever concept of him is bleeding through: the mask, the jacket designs, the glove designs, the banner. He puts out all these declarations about who he is so neither he nor anyone else has to think about it. They make assumptions, he plays into them, and no one wonders too much about his history.
I hope it’s okay to join in on the discussion cause this sort of identity stuff is so fun to play with.
The covering himself in symbols part, that suggests a "don't look at me" aspect on top of the "don't touch me" part. Like hiding under an alter ego so he doesn't have to look at what's really underneath. So he doesn't have to address the pain of that little boy from the mines, from the wound that's been rotting inside ever since then because nobody bothered to clean it, stitch it up, give him time to rest, and teach him how to care for it. The thought that if he can wrap himself in enough anger and violence no one will ever be able to hurt him that way again. (And that's not to say a sense of justice didn't factor into all this, but I feel that trying to hide that wound both literally and metaphorically is a part of the equation.)
So Adam’s wrapped himself in a shell. And then comes the question of what’s underneath? Does Adam himself even know that anymore? What would he have been if he’d been pointed down a path that didn’t require violence day in and day out, that didn’t demand that he become an attack dog for the people calling the shots? And when the shell is broken, what’s left behind?
The time traveler moved a rock and Raven adopted her own daughter into the tribe. Yang Branwen being introduced into the current RWBY timeline and its messed up
team RWBY in Beacon (and JNPR)
some doodles... I collected them all in this link so you can read twitter folks thoughts abt it:
The time traveler moved a rock and Raven adopted her own daughter to the tribe. Yang Branwen was created cause the big change to rwby curren
...I know I've said that before, but it bears repeating. ^^; Mostly because it actually clearly looks that way now, and that's probably going to continue...I'm not sure what else to say about it. If there's a word for this particular flavor of platonic relationship, I don't know what it is. Maybe someone will tell me. ^^
Anyway, since I still haven't started writing the script for this video (tbh I haven't had the time...) I'm going to continue practicing by talking about the pictures I draw. I did all three of these yesterday, thinking I'd just attempt to play with the designs a little and probably get tired and quit...surprisingly, I did not. '_' In a shocking twist, I'm enjoying drawing RWBY characters again~.
So while I was doing these sketches, I was mostly thinking about how Adam and Cinder interact with each other in the Neverfell AU...mainly by belittling each other and fighting constantly. ^^; Cinder thinks of Adam as just another stupid lackey; another piece of gentleman arm-candy; a mere tool that just needs to be kicked a little more than usual before it does what she wants it to do. And Adam (somewhat hypocritically...) thinks of Cinder as a myopic drama queen who's too wrapped up in herself to be an effective strategist or leader.
It's because of these opinions that they end up spending a lot of time working together, trying to show each other up as they re-attempt the not-fall of Beacon. And in doing so, they gradually learn more about each other, especially Adam, who starts to understand where Cinder is coming from as he gets drawn deeper into Salem's inner circle.
Fortunately, he still has (a) an outsider's perspective on Salem's manipulative behavior, and (b) too much pride to let himself become blindly loyal to anyone. And eventually, he gains enough concern, or at least pity, for Cinder to use those traits to try to help her, in the end.
Now the point of this isn't just "wow, Cinder gets to such a dark place that even Adam feels sorry for her"...although that is part of it, kinda. ^^ The main point is "wow, Adam's character develops so much that he can peacefully coexist with someone who doesn't respect him or fear him, and even sympathize with her", AND, "wow, Cinder's character develops so much that she can actually confide in someone about her struggles, and might even be willing to accept his help".
...I have a lot of details to fill in to make ^that development clear. But I'll get to it in the script. Eventually. :9
RWBY Versus Series: Adam Taurus vs. James Ironwood
"But fear itself isn't worthy of concern, it is who we become while in its clutches. Will you be proud of that person? Will you forgive them? Will you understand why they felt the need to do the things they did? Will you even recognize them? Or will the person staring back at you be the very thing you should have feared from the start?"
PHYSICAL
At first glance, this seems like a very simple conclusion to reach. While Adam Taurus certainly has James Ironwood beat in terms of physical health and wellness (blind in one eye vs. triple amputee with half your chest gone, one is decidedly worse), Ironwood’s alterations and implants more than make up for his poor condition. Though originally a run of the mill homo sapian, James Ironwood is now more machine than man, with superhumanly strong prosthetic limbs and built in armor turning him into a veritable juggernaut. As a Faunus, Adam may have anatomical traits that put him beyond your typical human by way of his horns and likely night vision, but these traits are either vestigial or useless on neutral ground, and his is otherwise just another squishy meatbag. Ironwood’s superior anatomy carries directly over to physical performance levels, boasting physical strength that is light years beyond anything Adam could muster up. Yes, carving through military-grade robots like they were nothing is a testament to a heavy hitter, but it really doesn’t compare to being able to manhandle a Beowolf with only one hand. Ironwood’s superior might is further supported by his agility, bringing every ounce of his weight and might to his target every time. Adam may be able to brace himself to deflect a flying Blake, but Ironwood doing the same would be far beyond his ability to handle. While Adam’s performance against Yang Xiao Long proves that he can contend with physically stronger opponents, this is all he can do, and jockeying in an arm-wrestling contest with Ironwood is well beyond his capabilities. Quite simply, Ironwood’s body is 50% metal and he’s all the more dangerous for it.
However, despite the General’s overwhelming physical might, this is not a one-sided contest, as his Faunus opponent boasts some critical physical advantages of his own. Adam may not have any anatomical advantages he can leverage over Ironwood, but he does enjoy a significant age gap, at minimum 20 years. Additionally, much like Cinder Fall, Adam’s impaired eyesight is not a gamebreaker, as he has never been seen suffering from a physical blind spot, owed to either Aura-enhanced senses or simple muscle memory. In terms of athletic ability, Ironwood’s titanic strength is matched and countered by Adam’s mind-numbing speed. Simply put, if Adam can keep pace with Blake, casually run laps around Yang, and demonstrate blatantly superior acrobatic ability, then Ironwood is going to have his work cut out for him. Dexterity and reflex also go to the High Leader, demonstrating greater precision and control in his sword style than the General’s simple pistol whips. Ironwood’s ability to match and arguably defeat Winter Schnee, to whom Adam is easily comparable, is proof that he can deal with speed demons, but as with Adam and his strength, that’s the limit. He can contend with Adam’s speed, but he can’t actually match or surpass him. As far as health and athleticism is concerned, Adam Taurus and James Ironwood demonstrate a balance of opposites. Both are stronger in areas the other is, while certainly not weak, comparatively lesser in, and either getting the opportunity to leverage that superiority could affect the tide of the whole battle. If Yang can overpower Adam, so can Ironwood. If Winter can outpace/fence Ironwood, so can Adam. Both have proven they can engage such opponents without being overmatched, so neither will be able to coast by on strength or speed alone in this fight.
This dynamic of opposing strengths and weaknesses carries over to their respective endurance and tolerances. Once again, Ironwood’s cybernetics afford him a clear and distinct advantage over Adam, his natural armor and displays of physical hardiness allowing him to work through hits that would leave the High Leader a burned-out husk. Getting back up after getting punched into a crater is great and all, but it’s not the same as literally burning the skin off of your own arm, and that’s before we consider that Adam’s last bits of Aura were taking most of the damage. But on the other hand, it is worth noting that Ironwood’s superior displays have been the direct result of him allowing himself to take the hits even when he doesn’t have to. Combined with his visible fatigue against the subversive Watts and his brief clashes with JNR and Winter, Ironwood’s survivability in the long term has a distinct cap. Conversely, Adam’s final confrontation with Blake and Yang was anywhere from double to triple the length of Ironwood’s fight with Watts, during which he was executing his own intense energetic fighting style the entire time and facing opponents whose offensive pressure slaps anything Watts could muster up. Despite that, Adam still had enough energy to keep fighting unaffected after losing his Aura, and considering just how much punishment Blake and Yang had to subject him to in order to finally get him to that point, I would say that Adam has the stamina advantage by quite a significant margin. Mental health and discipline follow a similar pattern. Adam is the more unstable of the two, his violent outbursts being far more pronounced, whereas Ironwood’s military discipline leaves his composure far stronger to the point of apathy. Yet Ironwood’s ruthless determination still compels him to take unnecessary risks, while Adam, be it by either cowardice or pragmatism, has shown a willingness to pace himself and cut his losses if need be.
As overall physical specimens, Adam Taurus and James Ironwood display a balance of major advantages and disadvantages over the other that match up extremely well. Adam is younger, faster, more sustainable, and better at staying alive, while Ironwood is tougher, stronger, better equipped, and better at keeping his cool. Both are well optimized to take advantage of their opponents’ weaknesses, and both are ruthless enough to fight to the death if need be. As such, this verdict is determined by the severity of the disparities in their respective performances, and it is here where Ironwood’s enhancements give him a leg up. Adam may have been able to contend with Yang Xiao Long’s greater strength and fortitude, but Ironwood is very likely stronger and tougher than Yang, making his advantage over the Faunus that much more substantial. By contrast, Adam merely matches Winter Schnee’s agility, he does not surpass it, so his speed advantage is not enough to put the general too far out of his comfort zone. Adam can potentially turn this dynamic around through skill at arms, but he cannot overcome Ironwood on the back of raw physicality. To be clear, Ironwood still has an uphill battle ahead of him, as Adam’s own strengths and displays mean that he cannot afford to coast by on strength and endurance. It must be remembered that Ironwood’s superiority is wholly in the fact that his cybernetics expanding the strength and durability gap wider than the speed and stamina gap, the latter of which are still eggs in Adam’s basket. I will go so far as to say that if we were examining a hypothetical non-cyborg Ironwood, then Adam would sweep the edge on the back of his youth. As it stands, however, Adam’s only hope lies in skill and power, and a battle of the body is Ironwood’s to lose.
James Ironwood gets the edge for Physical Ability and Equipment.
MARTIAL
Starting from the top with a comparison of their weaponry, both Adam Taurus and James Ironwood carry one standard firearm as part of their primary arsenal, their respective standard performances being more or less comparable. Where the weapon sets diverge from this point demonstrate the differences in each warrior’s approach. With Blush’s ability to shoot Wilt as a projectile, its use as a close-quarters bludgeon, and the versatility Wilt boasts as a sword, Adam’s arsenal provides a wider range of options in battle, which his fighting style fully leverages. With the secondary explosive rounds of Due Process’s silver half and the gravity Dust in the black half, Ironwood boasts an array of distinct yet extremely powerful attack modes which he then layered on top of each other. While both combatants have experience contending with each other’s outliers, meaning there is no significant gamebreakers, Adam’s more diverse arsenal and superior melee options do make him overall better armed.
Carrying over from the differences in their weapons, the combatants’ fighting styles are worlds apart yet have similar emphases. Adam Taurus’s technique is a sophisticated yet vicious method designed to overwhelm his targets with sheer speed and ferocity, while turning away any retaliation by way of evasive maneuvers and active defense and counters. Meanwhile, James Ironwood’s style is the manifestation of strength and power, leveraging his overwhelming might for maximum effect to pound his opposition into submission, relying on his fortitude to soak up anything the enemy brings to bear before responding in kind. One relies on a refined core technique that blends his diverse skill set into a singular, high performance fighting style, and the other relies on a much simpler technique that allows him to dominate the combat through the direct application of power. Both emphasize heavy offense as their first response, defending when needed when that fails before quickly regaining their momentum, in keeping with their mutual objective of dominating and controlling the engagement. Furthermore, both have shown great success at landing counters on overly aggressive opponents, while they themselves have both overextended when facing defensive opponents. While I do consider Adam’s guerilla assassin style as more refined than Ironwood’s gritty boxing style, the skill gap is not substantial. Between Adam’s repeated victories over Blake Belladonna and parity with Yang Xiao Long versus Ironwood overpowering Arthur Watts and fighting evenly with Winter Schnee, their developed skill levels are more or less on par. Technical sophistication will not be enough to allow the Faunus to simply outfence the general, especially given how Ironwood’s power is something that Adam has come up short against in the past. To be fair, though, the same can be said of Ironwood, as evasive duelists are well-optimized for staying out of his crosshairs. Experience-wise, Ironwood certainly has a significant edge over Adam by way of his greater years, affording him training and fighting time that Adam simply didn’t live long enough to accumulate. That being said, the value of Ironwood’s experience is undercut by the fact that he has spent the better part of his career behind a desk rather than on the battlefield, whereas nearly all of Adam’s comparatively shorter career was spent fighting, leading White Fang raids practically every other Tuesday.
With their skill sets and skill levels so closely matched, the most relevant factor in this verdict is going to be their respective tactical sensibilities, ironic given their mutual legacy of disastrous decision making. Both Adam and Ironwood are ruthlessly domineering fighters whose primary strategies center around asserting their control over the situation, their differing methods being paths to roughly the same destination. Adam’s strategy of active defense and counter allows him to turn any attack back on his opponent while he rushes in to eviscerate the target before they have time to recover, preventing his target from bringing their full might to bear against him. Meanwhile, Ironwood’s approach of enduring and powering through allows him to blunt any spearthrust against him before coming crashing against the opponent’s guard with more force than most are reasonably prepared for. Both frequently open as the aggressor, moving to overwhelm the enemy directly while refusing to give an inch of ground. Failing that, though they don’t like doing so, both are able and willing to fall back on defense to wait for an opportunity to counterattack. Due to his overwhelming offensive might, Ironwood would certainly dominate in a head-to-head engagement, bullying through Adam’s more refined technique with brute strength and pounding him into submission. However, I do not believe that Adam would fall into this trap. As a guerilla fighter, Adam has consistently been in a position where he does not have the strength to meet his opponents head-to-head. Instead, he opted to use that strength against the opponent, taking advantage of their overextended attacks to rush in, get inside their guard, and cut them down, or simply relying on his Semblance to use their own energies against them. Yang proved that the best way to defeat Adam is to play defense rather than offense, denying him the openings he needs to exploit, forcing him to come to you, and ultimately using his own tactics against him. This is simply something Ironwood doesn’t do. Whether barefisted or guns-ablazing, Ironwood is an offensive dervish, charging in and attempting to overpower his opponent directly with overwhelming might. On the one hand, this makes Ironwood extremely vulnerable to Adam’s counters, as he will be forced to chase after the Faunus and meet him on his own terms. But on the other hand, Ironwood’s sheer output is beyond anything Adam has encountered beforehand, meaning that if the general is able to get his adversary between a rock and a hard place, Adam could get into trouble very quickly.
As such, this is going to hinge heavily on Adam’s ability to contend with Ironwood’s offensive. The practical benefits of Ironwood’s simpler, stronger fighting style are best expressed in a close-quarters engagement; as with Winter, Adam’s refined swordplay will merely allow him to contend in a pure hand-to-hand brawl. However, Ironwood’s weapons of choice are firearms, meaning that he is just as likely, if not more so, to open with gunplay to strike his opponent at range. Therefore, the big question is this; can Adam Taurus reliably defend himself against James Ironwood’s primary forms of attack? Yes, he can. Guns are exactly what he built his defensive technique to address, and advancing vanguards are exactly what his hit-and-run tactics are meant to subvert. If he can deflect a firing squad’s worth of rifle fire, he can keep pace with Ironwood’s trigger speed. And if he can endure Yang’s machine gun punching spree long enough to find an opening to evade, he can certainly work his way around Ironwood’s more sluggish advance. Furthermore, Adam’s own marksmanship and unarmed skill, while outclassed by Ironwood’s, will still be adequate to interfere with the general and wear him down, whether by interfering with his focus in his normal state or chipping away at his Aura when he’s going full Mettle. Where Winter was trying to whittle him down with precise cuts, Adam would be tearing into his exposed flank. However, this isn’t to say that Adam will simply be able to dance circles around Ironwood and slice him to ribbons. We’d still be experiencing something of a stalemate here, as Ironwood’s sheer output still eclipses what Adam has confirmed experience with, meaning he is still going to be a serious danger if he gets the chance to properly leverage his own offensive power. Outside of Yang (who eventually killed him), all of Adam’s confirmed or implied opponents have been fellow skill-based warrior assassins like himself rather than domineering juggernauts. If Ironwood is able to get his target between a rock and a hard place, Adam would ultimately get crushed underfoot.
Making Adam and Ironwood’s dynamic with each other even more significant is the fact that their weaknesses are centered around their inability to deviate from their chosen patterns. Both combatants have come up short against each other’s fighter type in the past, Adam falling to a heavy-handed brawler in Yang Xiao Long, and Ironwood a dynamic speed fencer in Winter Schnee. In both cases, their only recourse was to double down and escalate rather than adopt a more appropriate strategy, meaning they ultimately had nothing to fall back on when overwhelming force wasn’t enough against their more measured opponents. And this approach would be equally ineffective against each other given they are both equally unyielding when their backs are to the wall. A pure contest of martial skill between these two would be both a spectacular display of combative talent and a savage war of annihilation. And given their shared mastery of contrasting fighting styles and tactics, their ruthless aggression, and the significant strengths and weaknesses they have over each other, I don’t see either combatant as having any sort of decisive advantage over the other.
I declare Adam Taurus and James Ironwood EQUAL as Martial Artists and Combat Strategists.
SPECIAL
Adam Taurus and James Ironwood are physical combat specialists who use their Semblances as a direct supplement to their martial techniques, and their applications of their abilities play directly into their respective strategies. With Moonslice, Adam’s approach of defense and counter is given a whole new dimension, with each blow he blocks or deflects providing him with fuel to unleash a devastating counterattack. Meanwhile, Mettle perfectly plays into Ironwood’s endurance strategy by giving him the means to leverage his strength and power without interference or distraction from even his conscious mind. However, when efficiency and application are added to the mix, one power is easily more viable than the other. While Mettle does reinforce and elevate Ironwood’s performance to a substantial degree, its nature as an inwardly directed power means that its ability to directly influence the combat is extremely limited. Ironwood may be able to hyper-focus every single one of his punches and bullets to get the most bang for his buck, but his attack output is still restricted to how hard he can punch and nothing more. By contrast, Moonslice is an ability that has direct offensive applications, affording Adam an additional attack vector to supplement his physical technique. Furthermore, Mettle’s properties could potentially exacerbate Ironwood’s overextensions, leaving him blind to threats outside of Adam’s direct attacks. Ironwood may have the means to power through injury, but Adam’s ability to absorb hits makes him the only one who can capitalize on injury. In a battle of pure Semblances, Adam’s more versatile powers afford a critical advantage.
Ironwood is not entirely helpless as an ethereal combatant, however, as he is the only one here who incorporates Dust into his fighting style. With the gravity bullets loaded into Due Process, Ironwood compensates for Mettle’s lack of offensive application by way of powerful shockwaves. Not only do these blasts count as a decent match for Moonslices’s energy waves, but Ironwood’s use of them to support his movements and recoveries affords him a degree of versatility that Adam lacks. The problem, however, arises when tactics are thrown into the mix. Adam may be something of a one-trick pony when it comes to firing off Moonslices, but deflecting gunfire to build up energy for those slices is his go-to tactic in just about every situation. Blake and Yang both proved that the best way to subvert this is to blindside Adam with shots he can’t see coming and can’t deflect, something Ironwood’s certainly capable of doing. Problem is…he doesn’t. While perfectly willing to sucker-shoot someone at point-blank range, Ironwood overwhelmingly favors long range gunfire to attack the target directly, which is the absolute last thing to do against this opponent. Trying to gun down Adam Taurus at range, even with magic bullets, is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. Not only has Adam proven that he can keep up with Ironwood’s trigger speed, but his performance against the spider drone in the Black Trailer shows that he can easily deal with the magnitude of Ironwood’s rounds and throw them back. If a gigantic laser cannon couldn’t overwhelm Adam’s Semblance, comparatively dinky Dust bullets ain’t gonna do the job either. The only piece of Ironwood’s arsenal that even comes close to the spider drone is the energy cannon he utilized at the end of Volume 8, which isn’t applicable here because the cannon is not part of Ironwood’s standard equipment; he only breaks it out for special occasions.
At the end of the day, James Ironwood’s special abilities either gain him nothing or they seal his fate, especially when contrasted with the far more flexible powers Adam Taurus has at his disposal. Absorbing hits and throwing them back with a sword may seem like a very basic power, but not only has Adam made incredibly calculated uses of it, it is also perfectly optimized to use Ironwood’s own energies against him. Ironwood’s typical use of Mettle will merely enable him to keep charging after Adam without a thought to what his opponent might attempt, playing into the Faunus’s guerrilla tactics. Meanwhile, Adam will be able to capably nail the general with his own bursts of destructive power fluidly chained into his swordplay. And between Ironwood’s overwhelming offensive focus, emphasis on gunfire at range, and the extra oomph of his Dust rounds, he's going to be giving Adam quite a lot to work with. While Moonslice will not be enough to instantly one-shot Ironwood, it will still be more than enough for Adam to wear Ironwood down. Furthermore, for all his instability, Adam is able to maintain a more complete situational awareness without sacrificing his focus and aggression, only failing to account for the unexpected when he is being actively distracted. What Blake achieved with clever feints and flanking maneuvers, Team JNR achieved with an opponent with tactical tunnel vision. Ironwood has certainly mastered his Semblance and his use of Dust, but he is overspecialized and relatively one-note. Adam makes far more intelligent use of a Semblance that is more tactically viable and, dare I say, more powerful, and does so in a way that will make him the general’s worst nightmare.
Adam Taurus gets the edge for Special Abilities and Powers.
VERDICT
The name of the game here is Equal and Opposite. When looking at these two on paper, Adam Taurus and James Ironwood appear to have nothing in common, and in fact appear to be exact opposites to each other. One is a red and black garbed Faunus hailing from the dregs of society, leader of a smaller guerrilla force, and an openly malevolent, violent, and selfish young man who expressed his cruelty through both a terrorist campaign and a frighteningly abusive relationship. The other is a blue and white clad human from the most prosperous Kingdom on the map, commander of a large, organized army, and an outwardly charming, friendly, and honorable man who is genuinely dedicated to serving and protecting the world. However, when one observes the fine print and pushes aside the cosmetic details, the two are tragically far more similar that either would dare concede to. Both were powerful leading figures within two dangerously controversial factions in the world of Remnant. Both were initially driven by higher, nobler causes for the sake of their own people, only for those missions to become twisted and corrupted by their mutual preoccupation with power and control, itself heavily influenced by their severe physical and psychological trauma. But more than anything else, both were the architects of their own destruction, their egos and fear gradually driving away whatever allies they had as they slowly spiraled down a path of madness and murder. Both believed themselves to be the hero, but they merely lived long enough to see themselves become the villain. Just as there are a plethora of ironic similarities and stark reversals between these two, so too are their diametrically opposed approaches to combat perfectly suited for engaging the other. Physically, Adam Taurus has youth on his side and boasts superior agility and stamina, but James Ironwood’s cybernetic enhancements grant him vastly greater strength and durability. One is optimized for an endurance run, the other dominates a slugging match. With martial arts, Adam Taurus’s dynamic and counter-centric swordplay and James Ironwood’s domineering brawling and firepower are seamless foils to each other, perfectly optimized to hit the other where he is weakest. And in the realm of special abilities, Adam Taurus holds the means to attack using his opponent’s own power against him while James Ironwood possesses the ability to deliver each of his devastating blows with laser-guided focus, both powers elevating their respective fighting styles into something greater than the sum of its parts. This is nothing less than a contest of equals, and while both would be loath to concede to it, they are very much each other’s perfect adversary.
Given that both combatants predicate their success on controlling the engagement, the decisive factor in this matchup is going to be tactics and conduct, as he who can get the other to fight on his terms is he who controls. This is especially ironic given how both combatants are known for having made extremely ill-informed, borderline foolish, strategic decisions, a failing that went a long way towards driving them to ruin. However, neither Adam or Ironwood is truly incompetent, they simply lack forethought and tact, and it is worth noting that their blunders were often influenced by factors beyond their control. When examining their baseline conduct and approaches, they are again well-suited to engage each other, but there is a noticeable disparity that finally tips the scales one way. James Ironwood is the embodiment of the direct application of power, linear warfare. Everything he is bringing to the table, body, weapon and soul, is specifically designed to be the strongest and most formidable piece on the board, capable of overcoming any adversary while being virtually impossible to assail himself. He never deviated from this approach to combat simply because he never needed to 9 times out of 10, and the few times he did run into trouble, all he had to do was hit a little harder before the enemy finally broke. Meanwhile, for all his ambitions and delusions of grandeur, Adam Taurus is a guerrilla assassin first and foremost, non-linear warfare. He is operating from a position of lesser strength more often than not, so he works to avoid the head-on collision whenever possible. He rushes in to cut the enemy down before they have time to respond then quickly move on to the next target, and should they try to fight back, he will defend before immediately countering. Attacking Adam directly will either give him the opportunity to retaliate or provide fuel for his Semblance, and it is worth noting that most of his successes in battle were against opponents who actively resisted him. Adam had plans to subjugate the world, which would naturally involve eventually crossing paths with stronger armies, namely Atlas itself, so everything about him is built with the goal of undermining that strength. And because this is exactly the kind of approach to combat that James Ironwood specialized in, he is exactly the sort of opponent that Adam Taurus has optimized his skill set to combat. Adam’s ironic tactical and defensive superiority makes his narrow advantages in all other areas decisive edges. His greater speed and agility will keep him out of the general’s crosshairs, while his superior stamina will allow him to maintain his performance further into the fight. His fighting style is perfectly suited to take advantage of Ironwood’s overcommitments and land critical blows to further wear him down, while his Semblance will take his enemy’s own consistent attacks and throw them right back at him.
However, I need to stress that Ironwood is merely at a disadvantage, he is not overmatched. Adam’s advantages may be crucial, but Ironwood’s own are still guaranteed to give the Faunus problems. If Adam makes a single mistake or Ironwood gets the change to bring his full power to bear, he is going down. The only thing keeping Adam in this fight is his defensive technique, which he will only be able to execute so long as his head is in the game. Psychological health is the bane of both combatants’ existence, and their final defeats owed greatly to their deteriorating mental states. However, while Ironwood is outwardly more collected and stable than the disturbed Adam, his stubborn, borderline obstinate, determination was his greatest weakness, burning his candle from both ends by forcing his way through unnecessary risks, a factor that can lead him to either soldier his way to victory or completely burn him out. Adam may be the more overtly explosive and volatile man, but his instability is specifically rooted in childhood trauma and his relationship with Blake, and he only lost his cool when specific buttons were pushed. When Adam’s in the field, he is cold, focused, and all business. Even accounting for Adam’s clear hatred of Ironwood, Ironwood’s lack of intimate familiarity with Adam means than exploiting his instability would be unlikely even if he were one for psychological warfare. furthermore, Adam's conduct demonstrates that he is at least somewhat aware of his short fuse, operating in a way to prevent his composure from being tested. Both are extremely arrogant, yes, but Adam has displayed at least a small willingness to recognize his limitations and compensate for them, whereas Ironwood simply tries to be big enough to ignore them, damn the consequences.
In my view, if Adam Taurus and James Ironwood were pitted against each other in the context of the lore, they would no doubt approach each other the way they did Sienna Kahn and Ruby Rose respectively, the former playing it safe and assassinating him and the latter dispatching his forces to hunt him down. But if dropped in cold, their battle would most likely play out as a combination of their respective final duels with Yang Xiao Long and Winter Schnee. However, I also feel this would be a far more drawn out and vicious affair. To take a cue from YouTuber Antione Bandele, I will be breaking my projection into three stages; the Early Fight, the Mid Fight, and the Late Fight.
The Early Fight would begin as a simple standoff before exploding into action, both combatants charging in for the initial exchange. Despite their tendency for heavy offense, Adam and Ironwood typically open with a more controlled offensive, still aggressive but keeping their full might in reserve so they can assess and escalate as needed. Ironwood’s heavier guns and unarmed combat would enable him to initially gain ground through sheer force, but Adam has a better recovery strategy, absorbing hits with his Semblance and evading anything else before instantly countering. At the same time, Adam’s initial retaliation will be sure to knock Ironwood around a bit, but not in any way that would actually slow him down. As such, this battle will not be decided in the early fight, instead functioning as more of a mutual assessment.
The Mid Fight is where things will begin to escalate. Once Adam and Ironwood have each other’s measure, they would pull out all the stops, making more deliberate uses of their Semblances and powers while settling into an increasingly brutal rythem. Blades and bullets flying, surges of energy exploding around them, punches and kicks thrown, both intent on burying the other where he stands. It is here that Ironwood has his best chance of victory, as the increased intensity of his onslaught is certain to start putting Adam under serious pressure and potentially overpower him. However, I do not consider this outcome likely, as Ironwood’s approach is too straightforward to push Adam out of his comfort zone. It must be remembered that Yang defeated Adam by goading him into overextending, not by penetrating his defenses. Adam’s greater mobility will be more than enough for him to stay out of Ironwood’s crosshairs, while the openings provided by Ironwood’s attacks will be too great for him to ignore. This constant interruption will also undermine Ironwood’s own offensive, as he will be forced to respond to what Adam is doing rather than controlling the flow. While Watts’s slippery retreat gave Ironwood the opportunity to marshal his strength and power through, Adam’s in-your-face hack and slash will be chipping away at him at every opportunity. However, this will not be enough to seal the deal, as Ironwood’s greater durability and iron will will allow him to shrug off all but the most catastrophic hits and continue fighting.
As such, the final verdict hinges on what happens in the Late Fight. By this point, both combatants will be utterly exhausted, their Auras either already broken or one hit away, though Adam will be better off thanks to his more controlled approach to the battle while Ironwood would be leaning on the native power of his prosthetics and otherwise running on fumes. Both would be frustrated with not having ended their opponent yet, and would set aside grace to finish it once and for all. From here, I can see two potential outcomes. Option A; Ironwood’s fatigue will leave him exposed to a series of attacks that he can no longer effectively defend against and endure, and Adam will be able to cut him down. Option B; Ironwood goes all out and smashes into Adam with his full cyborg weight, willingly subjecting himself to any following injuries in order to bully through Adam's guard and beat him into a bloody pulp.
Of these two outcomes, I view a Faunus victory through attrition to be the more likely. Ironwood may be capable and willing to accept a pyrrhic victory, but he will only be able to do so if he is able to successfully get the drop on his target, and the only example we have of such was against a distracted Arthur Watts. Unlike Blake Belladonna, Adam has no reason to underestimate Ironwood outside of sheer stupidity, and would be on guard for any potential counterattack. In fact, Ironwood’s extreme threat level would no doubt play into Adam’s hands, motivating him to skip gloating and dispatch his target at the earliest opportunity. Compounding this outcome is the fact that Wilt and Blush are simply the superior option for such a takedown than Due Process; regardless of how powerful Ironwood's pistol whips are, battering someone into submission with blunt force trauma is not an efficient way of subduing your target quickly, especially when compared to a sword blade. Ironwood’s fierce resolve does him credit, but instead of pulling victory out of the fire, his final charge would merely prompt Adam to end it. In a scarlet flash, the High Leader would narrowly avoid the general’s mauling fist, and Wilt would carve into what remained of his flesh and bone. General James Ironwood’s body would fall to the ground dead, and the battered, bleeding, and exhausted Adam Taurus would use the last remnants of his strength to raise his bloody blade to the sky and roar in triumph.
I declare Adam Taurus the victor.
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Well guys, I hope you enjoyed this next installment of the RWBY Versus Series. I’ve done my best to explain my position as completely as I can, but I understand if you disagree with me. All I believe is that Adam is the more likely to end the fight on his terms. If you disagree, that’s perfectly fine. All I ask is that you keep your comments civil.
In the meantime, feel free to send me asks about future matchups, stay safe, and I’ll see you guys later!
actor Adam from @nov4-rocket5's post. Text transcript under the cut.
Adam: The Beacon scene? Yeah, they reshot that at least a dozen times. I heard what aired was a stitched-together mess.
Interviewer: You never watched it?
Adam: Fuck no.
you're right. Those things are not synonymous. It is indeed possible to justify a character choice without dismissing racial diversity issues.
"not every rectangle is a square"
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is a square after all
and the big problem is when people literally do dismiss racial diversity issues, and then *pretend* that they're only "justifying a character choice" because they're upset that somebody pointed out the racism in a show created by a guy who tweeted the N-word as a 26 year old and then pretended to have "not known any better" (rwby was already three years old at the time btw so it's not like the show came after that)
rwby features a race of non-human animal people who literally do not call themselves human and who possess animal traits that their friends laughingly and fondly tease them about without any condemnation from the narrative. those non-human animal people are depicted almost entirely as violent evil aggressive 'reverse-racist' terrorists, with only a handful of characters who deviate from this depiction (and most who do only exist for anywhere between five to twenty minutes of screentime) and these few characters are portrayed as "The Good Ones" (and are usually cute and helpful, as opposed to The Bad Ones who are scary and evil). The non-human animal people have a history of being systemically oppressed and enslaved and there's one character in particular who was canonically a child-slave for rich white germanic billionaires as recently as around five years ago at least and was physically branded as the property of one of the protagonists with a cattle-prod. This particular character is a Pure Evil Violent Abusive Stalker Hate-Sink and if you say 'it sure is racist that Miles Luna made him up like that' you get swarmed and attacked and accused of 'homophobia' for literally no legitimate reason. The 'racism arc' for these non-human animal-people was solved when the single most privileged of their 'race' stood up and told them that it was their fault they were being oppressed because of minority-on-minority violence and that the only way they could prove to the humans that systemic oppression is wrong is by helping the cops arrest all the social activists, who had fallen down the Slippery Slope to Terrorism and wanted to blow up a school. The writers used to openly admit that they "based it on the Black Panthers and civil rights movement of the 1960's."
justifying a character choice and importance =/= dismissing racial diversity issues
okay so I saw this without knowing the greater context but now I'm caught up SO
Emerald is the first character of color to exist in rwby at all and is one of the only two darker-skinned characters of some importance. She did not exist until a 2-second glimpse of her in the last scene of V1. She did not have a speaking appearance until V2. She's horrifically sexualized and shows more skin than almost any other character. She has 100% European features with dark skin slapped on top of it. She has light-colored untextured hair. She's voiced by a white VA. She's a homeless street thief with Aladdin as an allusion and her surname was lifted from the language of an oppressed people group and Rooster Teeth was incorrect about what they thought it meant and when someone who speaks the language answered a question revealing that the word did not mean what Rooster Teeth thought it was, she was furiously attacked by rwby fans and accused of 'misogyny.' Her first appearance involves her and Mercury murdering someone in cold blood - the first of many murders committed by Emerald. She spends almost the entirety of her screentime simpering after a pale-skinned woman. She remains evil up until the second half of season eight. Her so-called 'redemption' is 100% based only on self-preservation, as confirmed by Ren's new motive-reading semblance and him spelling it out verbally. She never apologizes for any of the crimes or murders she's committed, and instead she reduces her actions to 'you might have got your asses kicked, sometimes by me.' I love Emerald, but this is bad representation.
Ciel existed for three minutes and her characterization was 'annoying person who keeps Penny's schedule.' She has European features with dark skin slapped on top. I love Ciel, but this is bad representation.
Arslan existed for three minutes. Her first name is Turkish or Mongolian for 'lion.' Her surname is a Mongolian goddess of earth (sooooo her color-name is dirt). Her clothing and fighting style is 'Eastern Asian inspired'. Her emblem is a symbol from Tibetan Buddhism. Her character allusion is Aslan from Narnia a.k.a. the Christian-made super Christian Christlike character who is canonically Jesus from another dimension where his form is that of a lion. Her features are European with dark skin slapped on top. I hear that she's a good character in the books, but this is bad representation.
Flynt Cole exists for two scenes. He's a jazz-musician in speak-easy-era clothes and his semblance is that he can make copies of himself (making black people have the superpower to make copies of themselves is actually a real trope that has been criticized in the past and hearkens to 'all black people look alike'). His story is that he's mad that the rich white germanic megabillionaire family destroyed the economy with their monopoly and drove his family's small-business to bankruptcy - but Weiss earns his respect by beating him up. Also his name is Flynt Cole. This takes JKR's racist-ass naming conventions and doubles down by putting them in a show where every name is supposed to be a color and his is 'Black Black.' I love Flynt, but this is bad representation.
Sienna is named after dirt. Her character allusion is a tiger who wants to preemptively murder a human child before they can grow up to be a hunter (created by a literal pro-colonialist, pro-british-empire, pro-war, White Supremacist who openly believed that people of color were 'devils' and 'animals') she exists for five minutes of screentime, is brutally, graphically murdered on-screen, and that's it. I love Sienna, but this is bad representation.
Terra Arc-Cotta is named after dirt. She exists for like ten minutes as a background character in one volume and hasn't mattered since. I love Terra, but this is bad representation.
Marrow is named after the dark, brown part of a bone. He's also a dog. His character allusion is an aesop fable about a dog who lost what he had in pursuit of an illusion. His semblance is a dog command. He got passed over for promotion by a rich white billionaire germanic cop. He gets thrashed by the rich white billionaire germanic cops - twice - with one of them pinning him down with a knee to his back but no wait! She's actually just being his White Savior. That makes it better, right? Ren's motive-reading semblance once revealed that he doesn't feel as many emotions as the rich white billionaire germanic cop does. I love Marrow, but this is bad representation.
Elm is portrayed primarily as a background character with some element of 'comic relief.' She got passed over for promotion by a rich white billionaire germanic cop. She's considered an antagonist for a brief while. She gets thrashed by two pale-skinned characters in a very comical fashion. She only existed for a couple seasons and as a minor role at that. Ren's motive-reading semblance once revealed that she doesn't feel as many emotions as the rich white billionaire germanic cop does. I love Elm, but this is bad representation.
Harriet is portrayed as an aggressive and hot-headed angry minor character. She got passed over for promotion by a rich white billionaire germanic cop. She gets thrashed by two pale-skinned characters in a very comical fashion. She only existed for a couple seasons and as a minor role at that. Ren's motive-reading semblance once revealed that she doesn't feel as many emotions as the rich white billionaire germanic cop does. I love Harriet, but this is bad representation.
Hazel is a violent aggressive villain who tortures children graphically on-screen
Pietro exists for a couple volumes as a minor character. He made a 'Perfect Daughter' who's very white. He gets written out of the series abruptly halfway through season 8 in mortal peril with no indication that he survived and literally no one cares. Maria also only exists for a couple of volumes as a minor character. She also gets written out of the series abruptly halfway through season 8 in mortal peril with no indication that he survived and literally no one cares. I love Pietro and Maria, but this is bad representation.
Alyx is a mean and cruel and manipulative bratty little girl who barrelled through the Ever After starting wars and causing problems. She poisoned and traumatized the poor uwu white man main character and he fucking hated her guts for like a full decade. She's not actually included in the show despite being built up as if she would be. She's got a scene where it turns out that she's fucking dead but she left behind a gift for the poor uwu white man as an apology for being so bad and terrible. I love Alyx, but this is bad representation.
This is called a "pattern" and it's not a pretty one. justifying all these character choices = dismissing racial diversity issues
All of this, but I'll also point out that Flynt is even worse. They didn't even use the actual surname Cole for him, they named him Flynt Coal. He's literally named 'black-rock black-expendable-resource.'
Oh yeah, thanks! I completely forgot that. Yeah his name is Flynt Coal. Flynt. Fucking. Coal.
Also I forgot about the Arrowfell characters.
Roane Ashwood, one of the antagonists. An incredibly oversexualized character showing tons of skin. Actually has textured hair for once but god is it modeled terribly.
Olive Harper, one of the antagonists. A traitorous manipulative mole who helps the main antagonist commit terrorism.
Hanlon Fifestone, the only union-leader in the entire property, who is portrayed as completely ineffective and more harmful than helpful even before you learn he's a villain. A violent aggressive evil terrorist who angrily attacks poor innocent little rabbit girls and sets off some bombs in low-income areas in an attempt to flood atlas with murderous grimm.
And again, I just want to post a reminder that Rooster Teeth has a history of extreme anti-black racism, and Miles Luna specifically is a part of that.
This is not an accident. They constantly say "oh noooo, we didn't know better!!!" and they constantly say "we'll do better next time!!!"
But they never do. And yes, at this point, justifying these choices is indeed dismissing racial diversity issues.
Shit right here pisses me tf off because it leads to brain dead takes like
And not withstanding the copious amount of racism Halle Bailey had to endure just for being talented enough to land the lead role in a Disney film.
Roosterteeth and Mkek are feeding into the narrative that black people can't simply exist in stories and not have to suffer. We can't exist as protagonists and have a fairytale, escapist fantasy. We can't be dainty mermaids, or have a cute high school romance, or fun isekai adventures or as leads in slice of life romcoms without shoving tragedy or slavery into the mix. We can't be angry or traumatised, or else we are hated and villainized.
I will repeat this until I am blue in the face, but it is not enough to slap a poc into your story and pat yourself in the back for being such a good ally tm and stopping there. You have to give careful consideration into how these characters are written, ensuring that you don't let racial biases sneak into your script. Else, you get Rwby, a show where dark skinned poc are treated as props for the pale skinned characters, relentlessly tortured, stereotyped, and given the boot when mkek are done with them.
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