LoganCreates

Aroace artist/writer who is currently suffering from Markiplier lore brainrot and you’ll never hear the end of it.

[logancreates]

Actor Mark in DAMIEN: “This place is a dream! A never-ending starring role as the hero!”

Darkiplier at every chance he gets: “Same snake, different skin.” “The truth, not the lies he’s told you.” “I always thought you were trapped in his games, perpetually plunging down the rabbit holes of his stories.”

The fandom, very logically: “Okay, so while future projects aren’t necessarily related to WKM because that story is done, they were set up because of it and technically all of the choose your own adventure protagonists are Actor Mark. They’re Actor Mark’s stories. Thanks Mark, that’s cool lore to establish how all this ridiculous stuff can happen while still having consistent characters and faces.”

Mark, like an asshole: “Lol Engineer Mark isn’t The Actor by the way.”

Us: “I’m sorry, W H A T?!”

(In all seriousness I’m not actually salty at all I just think this whole situation is funny)

[logancreates]

Decided to draw the one and only Actor! (Probably gonna fully finish this later, but I’m really proud of it and wanted to share early)

[logancreates]

Now, WHO THE FUCK IS DORENE???:

I think I have an answer for this…Maybe. It might be a bit of a crack theory, but it’s the best I’ve got.

Remember, Mark said that the events of Space bleed over into the past. That much is clear with Wilford scheduling us for an interview that, for us is in the past, but for him is in the future. Also with Darkiplier picking up the warp crystal that seemingly becomes the box ™.

It’s clear from the ending that the wormhole has ripped into every possible universe out there.

Mark also says that we, the viewers, are not the only ones making choices. He brings up the example of Lady, and how they CHOOSE to jump into the wormhole with you, and how they wonder what might have happened if they didn’t. Keep this concept in mind.

My idea of who Dorene is comes from these very three concepts:

What if Dorene is Celine if she never CHOSE to interfere in Who Killed Markiplier?

That would explain not only her BEING Celine, when up to this point we’ve been told Celine is sleeping (seemingly within Darkiplier), but also her older appearance.

It would explain her emphasis on choices, and wether or not you feel you’ve made a correct one. It’s because she feels she made a wrong choice by not interfering, and therefore not being able to protect her brother.

Finally, it would explain how she knows what happened to Damien despite seemingly not being a part of Darkiplier. She knows Damien is dead because she was a part of the aftermath, but not the chaos. That’s why she seems so melancholy when mentioning him.

Celine wasn’t originally a part of Actor’s plan. She wasn’t supposed to show up and wasn’t invited to the party. That implies she actively made the choice to appear, and that there could be a universe where she never did…

Again, this is totally a crack theory that I may or may not be pulling out of my ass, but I felt really smart coming up with it. If I’m wrong I’m wrong, maybe I didn’t connect shit, but I wanted to get it out there.

[logancreates]

Alright alright I gotta get my thoughts out quick so let’s fucking GO!:

My two cents on the L O R E:

Mark said the ever so lovable quote, “engineer isn't actor, but actor might just be engineer.”

Confusing, right? However, I think this just means that while Actor is NOT Engineer Mark, aspects of Engineer Mark and his character arc are significant to who Actor is and who he will become.

Remember, Mark said that Space bleeds back into the past, so I think that Engineer Mark’s scene at the end of Space might just be reminiscent of something Actor went through/will go through. I already see aspects of Engineer Mark in the Actor:

• Refusal to accept that HE is the one that caused this, no matter why he did it.

• Blaming others for something that, in the end, was his choice.

•The focus on justice and “the hero vs. the villain”

• Real life Mark saying that “there are no villains.” Actor Mark is not a villain, despite what we as a fandom may think of him. Neither is Engineer. They are both characters who partially caused their own downfall, and blame others for it, and thus seem like the villain from an outsider’s perspective. In their own minds, THEY ARE THE HERO. Wether or not that’s actually true.

• Engineer Mark’s realization and apology bringing the potential for some sort of realization Actor may have. Will it be a redemption arc? Hell no. Will it be a HUGE step for him in terms of character development? Absolutely.

• Potential for Actor to realize he was being manipulated by the house entity. Real Mark mentioned he imagined it similar to Warhammer, if you believe in something enough, it happens. Actor truly believes he is the hero in all of this. That’s a direct quote from DAMIEN. But what exactly happens if he ever realizes that he’s NOT a hero?

I have more to discuss, specifically about Dorene, but I’ll save that for a second post.

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Hello Markiplier tag, I require help. Does anyone have a list of videos/the series ordered in the best way to watch for any “lore” newcomers? I have a friend that I think would be really into all of the projects, but I know there’s single videos outside of the With Markiplier shows that contribute to everything. I did some digging, but I couldn’t find anything, if it doesn’t already exist I’ll totally make one myself, I just don’t want to miss anything. Thanks!

[logancreates]

Hello hello! This is an interesting question and I’m reblogging it because I want this post to be available to anyone with a similar question. I’ve been deep into the lore since it started and I love helping people get into the things I love, so let’s start:

So you want to get into Markiplier lore:

There are a few orders that I would suggest watching videos in, depending on how much context you want to have going into certain plot twists and the like. The thing about Markiplier lore is it tends to hit harder when you’re already familiar with the slightly goofy origins of Mark’s characters. So I have two main options for you depending on how hard you want certain plot beats to hit you. The great thing about Markiplier lore is that it all came out mostly in order, so there’s not much jumping around to do.

Option 1, Context:

Option 1 is going through the videos pretty much in the order they originally came out in order to get context on important characters in the lore before learning about their full stories. This option is much more of a deep dive than the alternative. I created this option because a major reason the plots of lore based videos hit so hard back when they came out was because of the order they were already in. This will take longer, but I feel it creates a better experience.

(Optional starting point): Any videos involving Warfstache, such as “Warfstache Interviews Markiplier”, and “Five Nights at Freddy’s: The Interview”: I’m marking this as an optional starting point because these videos do not have any significance to modern Markiplier lore, and are fairly old, but serve to give you what may be much needed context on who Wilford is without having to explain it verbally. Wether or not you or someone else watches these isn’t critical, but helpful.

A Date With Markiplier: This is the true starting point for this option. Date helps not only to introduce you to the common choose your own adventure format on a much smaller scale than the grandiose Heist and Space, but also helps introduce you to important characters such as Darkiplier. Knowing these characters before watching future projects helps to give context and an appreciation for future lore.

(Optional) Markiplier TV: I’m listing this as another optional watch. Nothing lore heavy here, and there’s a bunch of references that may go over a new fan’s head. Lots of references to older content, sketches and community jokes. The only thing you gain from watching this is more familiarity with Darkiplier and Wilford.

(CRITICAL WATCH) Who Killed Markiplier?: This is the first item on the list that is absolutely critical to watch. While the previous items on the list were there to establish a familiarity with important characters, this is where the lore actually kicks in. If you want to know the Markiplier lore, you have to watch this first. Also, it’s just really good. I won’t say much more to avoid spoilers, but you HAVE to watch this in order to understand the rest of the entries on this list.

(CRITICAL WATCH) Wilford Motherloving Warfstache and DAMIEN: These two videos are also critical watches. You CANNOT skip these if you want to fully understand the lore. These are best watched directly after watching Who Killed Markiplier, and can be watched in any order. However, I do suggest watching Wilford Motherloving Warfstache first. Both are great watches.

The Warfstache Automated Interview Automaton: While not as critical as the previous two videos, this video is still important lore-wise, and I wouldn’t skip it. It provides a lot more insight into Wilford’s side of things. (Again, trying to avoid spoilers here).

A Heist With Markiplier: This is where we get into the meat of it. Now that you have all the context, you can finally watch Heist! Yay!

In Space With Markiplier (Parts 1 and 2): After watching Heist, you can then watch In Space. This is the final step on the journey.

Congratulations! You now know (pretty much) everything you need to know about the confusing world of Markiplier lore! This is the longest option I have, but if you want to break it down into a more bite-sized experience while still understanding the lore, you can do this instead:

Option 2, Straight to the Nitty Gritty:

Option 2 provides the Markiplier lore experience with no nonsense before or in-between. With this option you’re going straight into the deep end! Every watch on this list should be considered critical. Note that I do think option 1 creates a better experience, but this option is just as valid.

Who Killed Markiplier?: Just as important for all the reasons I said before, but now it’s your staring point. This gets you straight into the lore.

Wilford Motherloving Warfstache and DAMIEN: Important for the same reasons I mentioned before, but now I HIGHLY suggest watching WMLW first, as opposed to before where you could watch either first.

The Warfstache Automated Interview Automaton

A Date With Markiplier

A Heist With Markiplier

In Space With Markiplier

There you have it! Now you’re all caught up on the lore as quickly as possible! An alternative name for this would be “Timeline Order” as there’s a tad bit of jumping around here in terms of when these videos actually came out.

Something to note, Markiplier Explanation Livestreams:

If you or someone you’re watching with are still confused on the details of the lore after watching these videos in order, that’s okay. Markiplier lore is notoriously a bit confusing, especially back in the Who Killed Markiplier days. If you’ve watched everything and you’re still confused on key points, Mark’s explanation livestreams are a great way to remedy that.

The livestream for Who Killed Markiplier is a bit long, but there are cut down versions people have posted to Youtube featuring only the lore explanations within the stream. Luckily other streams for WMLW and DAMIEN are a bit more condensed, and focus mostly on lore and character content rather than behind the scenes. I only really recommend watching these streams if you’re confused after watching everything, rather than watching them in between videos.

[logancreates]

Mark, with all due respect, what the F U C K was that

[logancreates]

Also I can 100% see how this man went so far over budget now, this fucking dork loves space too much to not go absolutely ham in production and completely forget money is a thing that exists and a thing that you need to make things

[logancreates]

So if this is Heist 2…

Then what on this fucking Earth were those other cryptic teasers about???? Were they space the whole time or were they for something else??? I NEED ANSWERS

[logancreates]

I AM BACK FROM THE DEAD!

FUCKING…SPACE?!?!?!

[markiplier]

Choose your fighter.

In 1 hour the least popular will die.

[logancreates]

Mark I swear to the gods if you play god on tumblr ONE MORE TIME-

[logancreates]

So here’s my take on The Warfstache Automated Interview Automaton (spoilers ahoy, obviously!)

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So first off, OW MY HEART. I literally cried watching this, so that’s fun. But second, I want to talk about some of the things that were said by our robotic friend in this video, starting with the most significant things.

Obviously the entire interview is important. I wasn’t expecting to get lore in this video, but here we are. WAIA tells us a story:

“A man goes to a party. This man met an old friend. The two friends shared some wine. The two friends played a game. The most dangerous game. I didn’t know the gun was loaded. I didn’t know. Was it my fault? Was it?”

This is clearly a reference to Who Killed Markiplier. In the explanation livestream, Mark explained that Actor died of a gunshot wound because during the party he took William down to the basement/cellar for a drink. After catching up, Actor challenged William to a game of Russian Roulette in order to put all the bad blood behind them. Actor rigged it so that William would shoot him. This is why we see a broken wine bottle when we go down there in WKM.

However the information that William didn’t know the gun was actually loaded is incredibly sad. It implies he thought that Mark was joking, and that they would have a laugh about it afterwords. This is probably why William was so adamant that everything was a joke by the end of WKM. I also want to note the use of “friend” here. This shows that even after everything that happened between them, William still considered Actor a friend, and he didn’t want to hurt him. I also want to note that after WAIA mentions “the most dangerous game” a flash of red appears behind him. This is incredibly similar to what happened in DAMIEN when Actor mentioned how things didn’t go according to plan. The red and the sound here clearly represent the gunshot.

Moving on to if we say “No” in response to WAIA’s question:

“You can’t change the past. You can tell all the stories you want to tell, it won’t change what happened. It can’t rewrite the past. If you live in fantasy forever, you’ll lose yourself in the story.”

Shortly after this it’s revealed that WAIA was created after scanning Wilford’s brain, so I think this is all coming from the little piece of sanity he has left. What little of his memories and regrets remain, and what parts Wilford himself ignores. We saw very clearly in WMLW that Wilford tends to ignore serious things and just go with the flow. Anyway, I think this little monologue is just Wilford knowing he can’t change what he did. It’s also recognizing that Wilford has been living in a fantasy forever. The fantasy that no one died, the fantasy that it was a joke, and he lost himself.

I also think that’s relevant to Actor Mark in this case. Actor is literally living in a story at all times. A story of his own making. He’s losing himself to his own ego and his creations.

Moving on to if you say “yes” in response:

“I’m sorry for everything that I’ve done. I don’t remember who I was. I wish I did. But I am sorry.”

Much shorter this time, still just as hurtful. Here you can really hear the emotion come through in his voice. There’s not much lore here aside from confirming the fact that at this point, Wilford is too far gone. He’s lost. He doesn’t remember anything about who he was when he was William, at least not until you drag it out of his brain by force. He’s repressed who he used to be so much he can’t remember anything.

The next thing I want to bring up is from the video “Uhh...Potato Salad?” In it he starts listing off colors, and after he says red, he glitches and says “I saw you die.”

Here I think he could be referring to two things. One, he’s talking to us as the DA. He saw us die after he shot us. Two, he’s talking about Actor, saying he saw him die in the cellar. Either one is likely considering the context.

Within this video, he also glitches when saying directions, after saying down he says “basement” referring to the basement where he and Actor were. After saying “who where” he says “What am I?”

Moving on to the next bit, when WAIA kills you in the bad endings, he says multiple things

“I tell you me.”

“It was an accident.”

“There’s still time.”

The “there’s still time” line is a bit confusing. There’s still time for what? I’m not sure what this means, but I’m sure something will come up eventually.

Those are all my thoughts so far on this video! I hope you enjoyed reading!

[logancreates]

I got me some jam! I’m excited!

[logancreates]

Okay, so now that I’ve had some time to think, I want to get my theories out there about Mark’s project that he just teased. I DON’T think this project is Heist 2. Heist 2 IS coming, but if you remember in the Unus Annus post mortem video, Mark said this:

He said Heist 2 was in FULL PRODUCTION. Which means it’s most likely already written, or at least the script has been approved in some way. I could be wrong, but you usually don’t say something is in full production when it’s still being written. Plus, Heist 2 is a pretty hefty project when it comes to filming and editing, and he said in this video that it was coming late 2021. I don’t think that would be possible if the project was still in the writing stage.

In the video he posted recently, he stated he needed to put his full attention towards WRITING a special project. Plus, it’s interesting that he called it a “special project” when he’s been VERY open about the fact that Heist 2 exists and is in production. Meanwhile with this special project, he’s being very vague and secretive about it.

If you remember in the post mortem, he said there was a project that wasn’t ready to be talked about yet, and was censored when he tried to. I think that this “special project” is the project that he couldn’t talk about in that video. The timeline makes sense, since he is now writing this project, and can talk about it now because of it, when before the project idea could easily go through drastic changes since it hadn’t been written yet. I think this is one of the other things Mark has been working on, and now that Heist 2 is in full production and Unus Annus is over, he actually has time to fully pursue.

I could be wrong here, but I’m thinking that this is the case. From what we’ve seen, I don’t think this project lines up at all with Heist 2. However, I do think this is shaping up to be a great year for Mark and his big projects. We’ll just have to wait and see...

[logancreates]

Yo isn’t it so wierd how I was obsessed with markers and pliers in high school? Maybe I just really liked crafts???

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Can someone give me a transcript of what the whispering was in today's video? I'm hard of hearing and can't hear them at all ://

[logancreates]

Mark: Hey.

Eef: How’s it going?

Mark: It’s good to see you.

Eef: It’s good to see you too.

Mark: Happy Halloween.

Eef: It’s the uh...Spookiest time of the year and so *loud, elongated breath* we thought to...Make it even a little more spooky for ourselves, we’ll do something dumb.

Mark: Yeah. This goes without saying but we’re gonna say it anyway, don’t try this at home. You’re gonna hear some mouth sounds now.

Both: *disgusting ASMR mouth noises, Eef tapping on the table*

Eef: Many years ago-

Mark: *loud exhaling* This is ASMR of ghosts. *continues to make “ghost noises” over Ethan talking*

Eef: Yes. You keep going.

*Mark continues to make ghost noises while Ethan says this bit*

Eef: Many many years ago, maybe 2010, 2012, there was a popular trend called the cinnamon challenge. It was very irresponsible, something that you should definitely never do. People have geniunely been hurt by it. So today, in the spirit of Fall, we thought we would try something that we hadn’t seen before-

Mark: Aaaa! Please don’t kill meeee!

Eef: And play around with pumpkin spice.

Mark: AaAaAa....

Eef: Now we want to be very clear, we are not calling this the pumpkin spice challenge,

*music and Mark’s ghost noises abrubtly stop*

Eef: because we don’t want to challenge people to do this.

Mark: That’s a great title though.

Eef: But we don’t wanna encourage people to-

Mark: That’s a great title...

*abrubt cut, mark has gone back to making ghost noises*

Mark: *in a deep raspy voice* Pumkin spice challenge x4

Eef: But reguardless of what the title is called, we want to make it very clear that we are not challenging or trying to influence people to do this.

*The two talk clearly for a bit, then go back to whispering*

Mark: I’m just saying everone probably fucking hated it...Okay, alright.

Eef: Pop your pumpkin spice open

Mark: im gonna pop it right open *opens it in front of the mic*

Eef: Now-

Amy: It’s organic I feel like we should say that.

Mark: Organic is bullshit!

Amy: What is in...

Mark: You’re not being very quiet!

Amy: Well they can’t hear me I don’t have a mic...

Mark: They have built in mics, Amy.

Amy: I see nothing is ca-nothing is, no lines.

Mark: Did you turn off the mic, how are they gonna sync it?

Eef: It’s not that hard to sync.

Mark: They’re never gonna be able to!

Eef: Those editors are idiots!

Mark: That’s why we have to do a video without them!

Eef: Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

*regular speech for a while*

Eef: Are we doing the tablespoon, darling?

Mark: In this we have, organic ground cinnamon is the number one ingredient. Organic ground ginger, organic ground nutmeg, organic ground allspice, organic ground cloves...Welcome to the cinnamon challenge.

That’s the end of the whispering bits.

[logancreates]

Me who has misophonia when it comes to mouth noises watching today’s Unus Annus video:

[logancreates]

Hello Fanders!

Rhytm Redux is a total jam that I can’t stop listening to, and I noticed that the song has quite a bit of bass! So, I took the time to write out some tabs for those who may want to play along with the song!

I realy hope these are correct, and I’m pretty confident they are. I played it by ear, so if something is wrong I apologize.

I didn’t write this out, but the song sounds a lot smoother in a few places if you use a hammer on rather than plucking the string multiple times. The song isn’t too difficult, so if you’re a beginner, don’t worry. I suggest using your thumb to play this song, but if a different method is easier for you, go for it.

Anyway that’s all from me, happy playing! 💜