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[lordhasen]

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[luimnigh]

Once in near orbit, do you think Ironwood will start to drop his big bombs onto other Kingdoms as well?

He only has the one. 

But so long as he doesn’t see a Kingdom as a threat to Atlas, I don’t think he’d use it. 

Unfortunately, he now sees Mantle’s existence as a threat to Atlas. 

[lordhasen]

What would prevent ironwood from building more bombs?

[kaleidoarms]

What do you think of the idea that the bomb Ironwood speaks of is an atomic bomb and not an dust bomb?

Do they have the means to make an atom bomb? Isn't pretty much everything in Remnant powered by dust?

I dare say that Penny using the exploding mine to thrust Amity is probably foreshadowing.

[lordhasen]

Well considering they have x-rays (V8C1) Atlas should have discovered how nuclear fission works.

Though there is off course the bottleneck in just how much fissile material they have unless Ironwood has an secret uranium mine somewhere in the tundra.

[carbonated-fenwater]

Something that I’m obsessed with in this show is the biting satire that is the rich decorating their homes with Grimm statues. It’s such a kick to the balls that the high class in this world are so far removed from everything else that they can afford to use the visage of the monsters that kill people DAILY as cool center pieces. And especially now that everyone in the world is on equal footing in terms of knowing about Salem it’s poetic cinema. Now those who never had to worry about these sort of things are going to have to take action along with those who have spent their whole lives under the thumb of the Grimm. Just a neat lil detail that I like that they’ve kept consistent.

[lordhasen]

But didn’t Ruby also had grimm figures and an grimm themed Pajama?

[jesterday00]

Does Atlas have free healthcare?

[bobasisters]

Given its many American allusions I’d have to say no:/

[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

“I got mauled by a Sabyr you let in through the hole in the wall!”

“Well maybe if you moved to Atlas you wouldn’t have that problem.”

[luimnigh]

To put it simply, Pietro Polendina feels the need to run a clinic in Mantle. 

The implication there is that his presence, the presence of a single man, has an impact on the standard and availability of care in Mantle. 

There are people in Mantle who would not get the care they need without Pietro Polendina’s presence. 

That does not speak highly of the healthcare system in Mantle. 

[lordhasen]

Hot take: Pietro, not Ironwood, is the true Atlas allusion.

He is an single dad who works as an scientist while also providing health care for the poor in his free time.

This is true strength.

[thuskindlyshescatters]

Animation error on The Macrobang

[lordhasen]

What error?

[necronymie]

[lordhasen]

Well I guess this explains the “mechanization part” of the season 2 synopsis.

[tumblingxelian]

You now what is tragically hilarious about the Amity Project?

Ironwood could have had the whole thing finished before RWBY even arrived if he hadn’t closed his borders and kept out all foreign trade. 

Seriously, the only reason they would have to be taking supplies from Mantle is if their normal resources are not available. 

We know thanks to Jac that Atlas isn’t trading with anyone, hence the resources loss & with Atlas unwilling to inconvenience Atlas Mantle was his “only” local source. 

Yet we not only see in V4 that his embargo plan is failing cos Weiss snuck out easily, but also with how Watts, Tyrian, Cinder & Neo, plus RWBY all snuck in and the added tragedy is Salem wasn’t even looking into Atlas at the time. 

Now admittedly that might have changed somewhat if Ironwood kept his borders open, but it seems even without that she’d have targeted Mistral and Vacuo first because one had a cowed headmaster and the other wouldn’t have an army to be annoyed by. 

Meaning if he’d even just so much as allowed for basic trade to continue he’d have likely been done before RWBY and co even left Mistral! 

Granted given his plan was to inform the world there was a Grimm queen and then send out his army to “quell the panic” when they can’t even protect Mantle, maybe its for the best he never succeeded? 

[lordhasen]

While that would fit well with the themes of RWBY it does not make sense given the economic realities of remnant.

The fact that the Ironwood embargo did stop the other Kingdoms from declaring war suggest that Atlas is a net exporter of dust or at least refined dust. Also they did not reopen the closed SDC mine further suggesting that they have more than enough dust.

If we talk about high tech manufacturing capacity Atlas is besides Vale the only place for it. And given that Beacon is still recovering I don’t think they can spare much right now.

The only way how free trade would have helped is by stabilizing Mantle: But we know from the show (”just few city blocks”) and the DVD comments that Atlas really does not care about Mantle.

What Ironwood should have done is 1) fix his robot army and 2) send some of his forces to help with the reclamation of Beacon.

That would have created trust between the Kingdoms and it is far easier to repair the Vale CCT tower than to launch an CCT tower into near space.

[mylordshesacactus]

Something that’s bugged me for a while: People generally refer to the trap being set in Worst Case Scenario as Ironwood’s attempt to arrest Robyn.

The only problem with this is….Ironwood isn’t trying to have Robyn arrested.

We don’t see an order for Robyn’s arrest go out like we do for Team RWBY. As a matter of fact, the next time we see Robyn in person is when she shows up in an extremely public location, at a high-profile event in the heart of Atlas, unguarded, in a private meeting of the entire government.

Yes, Ironwood objects to her presence. But it’s a petulant, personal gripe–”What is SHE doing here”–and not the much more obvious objection. If Robyn Hill was a wanted criminal, and Ironwood didn’t like her being there, he would have said so. He doesn’t. More telling–NONE of the other Council members act as if Robyn being here is anything other than perhaps slightly unusual. 

No mention of them offering her amnesty, no mention of a temporary ceasefire, no mention of legal protection or of Robyn taking any kind of risk by showing up.

Robyn is not, legally, a criminal. Robyn does not have a public outstanding warrant for her arrest. And this is where Ironwood’s phrasing when he gave that initial order suddenly becomes relevant. “I want Robyn Hill in custody.” That order never left his office. 

Robyn, when Ironwood’s personal elite forces attempted to lure her out and detain her was never legally under arrest.

James Ironwood was not trying to arrest Robyn. He was trying to disappear her. He was trying to blackbag her off the street.

And for some reason, when everything goes to hell and Clover tries to argue that as Robyn’s not under arrest she should just sit down and cooperate while their ship takes her to Atlas Academy, she doesn’t find the lack of a legal arrest warrant in her name at all relevant.

I wonder fucking why. 

[bobauthorman]

Oh yeah, totally. The council meeting wasn’t just a way to illustrate how much of distance Ironwood’s put between himself and the other seats, it was to establish how little legality there was to Ironwood’s actions throughout Volume 7.

As Robyn pointed out, the supply trucks taken Amity were originally assigned to Mantle’s outer walls. Trucks that were driven by Ironwood’s Easy-To-Remotely-Control robots. In fact, that’s probably why Ironwood was so low-key amused to hear QRWBYJNPR stole a ship to reach Atlas- he probably figured they’d be okay with MORE theft “for the Greater Good”. 

And that makes Marrow’s low-key threat Robyn’s group better do things legally, and her amusement by it, that much more ironic. For all intents and purposes, Ironwood’s group is the one breaking the law.

[lordhasen]

To be fair we don’t know what special rights Atlas law gives the Headmaster and the General of the Army.

Perhaps the Atlas constitution allows expropriation of resources for national defense.

[folly-of-alexandria]

I am asking for one thing. One. God. Damn. Thing. And Still The Answer Is “NO.”

It’s August, we are three months away from the Election. And this motherfucker still hasn’t given me one fucking reason to vote for him.

[lordhasen]

He isn’t responsible for 161.000 corona deaths.

[kaleidoarms]

Happy birthday to me!

Next RAIN post will show up in a couple hours or so :)

[lordhasen]

How old are you now?

[elfcow]

So the sneak peak of Storm Warning, a new GEN:LOCK novel coming out, uses she/her pronouns for Valentina in human form and he/him for Val in mech... I was under the impression that Val/entina uses they/them pronouns? I forget exactly where I saw it tho, I'd have to look.

And it's completely valid for Val/entina (as they're credited) to use any of those combinations of pronouns, I just wish I had a Canon confirmation of what pronouns they do use.

I also saw a panel from a genlock comic where Val/entina was called a woman/by she/her pronouns and it just worries me, idk.

Does anyone have screencaps or Word of God sources? I'll be looking myself I'm just curious

[lordhasen]

Iirc according to the DVD commentary Val doesn't correct people using him or her pronounce when they (Val) have an male or female body.

Like when someone says “She is an great sniper” when Val has an female body she will not correct the person.

This makes somewhat sense since Val did imply that transgender people are tortured by the Union for being transgender. And since the comic stated that Val grew up under Union occupation she may have learned not to correct people  in order to survive.

[kaleidoarms]

So apparently Tyrian and Hazel killed all the students of Haven as well as the Mistral Huntsmen.

Yeah, fuck that.

[lordhasen]

Granted I didn’t read Before the Dawn, but if Tyrian and Hazel got help from Salem in from of Grimm support then it is not that implausible.

[luimnigh]

Given how advanced Atlas is, do you think they may have atomic weapons?

Nope! 

All technology in Remnant is based on Dust. Oil and Gas just don’t seem to exist, otherwise we would have seen technologies using them to supplement Dust supplies. And the fireplaces that we’ve seen have been wood-burning, suggesting Coal isn’t an option either. 

The only fossil fuel that we can probably assume exists is Peat, because we’ve seen bogs and swamplands. 

So judging by that pattern, it feels pretty safe to assume that Uranium and Plutonium also don’t exist on Remnant. So Nuclear Power, and Nuclear Weaponry, simply aren’t options. 

[lordhasen]

But doesn't Uranium come from supernovas and neutron star mergers? I mean they have an sun meaning that nuclear fusion and supernovas are an thing in their universe.

[luimnigh]

I mean, the universe was created by magic Gods. I’m not sure we can apply any real-world astrophysics to it. 

[lordhasen]

Are they even real gods? We know from Qrows story that they have created life and the grimm. It was never stated that they created the universe.

Given how GoL spoke of other “experiments” I think it is save to assume that they are not gods, but just hyper advanced aliens with god like powers.

That would also explain why the GoD had to fly away from Remnant instead of teleporting away.

[luimnigh]

Given how advanced Atlas is, do you think they may have atomic weapons?

Nope! 

All technology in Remnant is based on Dust. Oil and Gas just don’t seem to exist, otherwise we would have seen technologies using them to supplement Dust supplies. And the fireplaces that we’ve seen have been wood-burning, suggesting Coal isn’t an option either. 

The only fossil fuel that we can probably assume exists is Peat, because we’ve seen bogs and swamplands. 

So judging by that pattern, it feels pretty safe to assume that Uranium and Plutonium also don’t exist on Remnant. So Nuclear Power, and Nuclear Weaponry, simply aren’t options. 

[lordhasen]

But doesn't Uranium come from supernovas and neutron star mergers? I mean they have an sun meaning that nuclear fusion and supernovas are an thing in their universe.

[thuskindlyshescatters]

Your post just made me realism... the visible Atlasian government is /smaller/ than the Wizarding World. And I thought Rowling's lack of proportion was bad. *BANGS HEAD ON DESK* I've seen county governments (less than 30k people, 750 sq miles) with 17 people on the main board, with even more departments and employees.... if Atlas is supposed to be a large nation with a significantly-sized city.... *agggh*

YEAH!! Although, there is something to be said about the centralization of the Kingdoms. Due to Grimm, almost the entire population of each kingdom lives in the capital city, and there appear to be few other cities to live in while still living in a kingdom (Argus and Mountain Glenn being the two ones I can really think of right now). All the random towns and villages on the continents are explicitly not part of the kingdoms, so while there are people outside the cities, they’re not being governed by the Council. Still, that leaves at least a million citizens within each the kingdoms, based on the size of Atlas, Mistral and Vale, and that’s still WAY too many for just 4 people to be in charge of.

[lordhasen]

To be fair though Remnant doesn't have our history of democracy. It is hard to build up an well working representative democracy if you don’t have working and failed examples from history. You can’t learn from Rome or Athens if there was no Rome or Athens.

My guess is that the council system has develop from the advisor council from the days of monarchy. That would explain why 2 of 5 seats are non-democratic (Headmaster of the Huntsman academy and General of the armed forces).

That may sound insane for people who grow up in an world dominated by (mostly flawed) democracies, but for people who grew up in an world saved single handily by an philosopher warrior King this sounds sensible.

Of course considering that Ironwood is going full dictator now with his two council seats + emergency powers I would not be surprised if the Atlas council reforms itself to an real parliament with an appropriate number of politicians after Ironwood is stopped.

[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

Ironwood: Yells, screams, rants extensively, shoots things, breaks things

Fandom: Clearly this man is a rational, logical person who is making his decisions based solely on cold reason. RWBY is being too emotional.

[lordhasen]

Don’t forget that he also shoots minors.